1998/09/10 09:28
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #646
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 646
Today's Topics:
Re: Views on Aura (Part IV) [ Rik Wallace <love_rikATnospamyahoo.com> ]
Re: Unidentified subject! [ Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamhempseed.co ]
RE: Views on Aura-(Part III, IV) [ Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamhempseed.co ]
Re: Views on Aura (Part IV) [ Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamhempseed.co ]
Re: Unidentified subject! [ raptor <splackoATnospamkr.tel.hr> ]
Lobster-ese "good stuff" hic [ flute <FluteATnospamcreate.org> ]
Views on Aura (Part IV) [ ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com ]
Aura's [ flute <FluteATnospamcreate.org> ]
stability. [ "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.or ]
Re: LADY ROSES OF THORNS SLEPT IN 10 [ "Wonderer" <mrtn74aATnospamprodigy.com> ]
Abrupt end of our series! [ cosmic energy <sciATnospamnde.vsnl.net.in> ]
Re: Abrupt end of our series! [ Harsha <hlutharATnospambryant.edu> ]
Re: Abrupt end of our series! [ Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iis ]
Re: Abrupt end of our series! [ fredaann2ATnospamjuno.com (freda ann) ]
Re: Abrupt end of our series! [ nancy <nancyATnospamwtp.net> ]
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 02:04:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: Rik Wallace <love_rikATnospamyahoo.com>
To: Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamhempseed.com>, cosmic energy <sciATnospamnde.vsnl.net.in>,
hlutharATnospambryant.edu
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Views on Aura (Part IV)
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>>Harsha:
>>What is the use otherwise of saying all kinds of silly
>>things and presuming to know where others stand and what
>>they know? Find out Who You Are first! You will then not
>>have to worry about the auras of others and whose aura is
>>big and small etc. and how they compare. Best wishes.
>
> Danijel: Well, I wouldn't be so quick to discard
> something like that -
Rik: That's been made increasingly clear, Danijel.
You might consider it. (In fact you probably will.)
> you are basically saying that
Rik: WHO is saying that? WHO, Danijel?
> if you know Self you stop being curious in the relative,
> that you lose interest in improving;
Personally, I wouldn't ascribe a muddled perception to
anyone other than 'who is perceiving?' WHO, Danijel WHO?
I am curious.
> there are several people on this list who entered very
> high states of consciousness on one or several occasions,
We all have -- the 'ordinary human condition' is such
a powerful high that most of us can't come down.
> and yet I don't see a single person who would cause me to
> react on them as powerfully as I react on Babaji or some
> other Masters...
And who's fault is that? Who, Danijel, Who?
> yes, I believe that there is much room to grow, and
> measuring that growth might prove to be a very good means
> of erradicating our flaws.
'might prove'?
I wonder why it appears to me that you have no idea.
Who is flawed? Who do you wish to eradicate?
Who do you think you're measuring?
> It is quite different thing, however, to put too much
> trust in one single method of diagnostics.
Nonsense. Who is the 'method of diagnostics'?
That is who you should trust.
> I have seen several such techniques and most of them
> have a very nasty habit of being influenced by the
> preconceptions,illusions, desires and fears of those
> who use them.
Must've been me you saw. :) I have that nasty habit.
Who else could it have been?
> I am still just figuring out what it is all about -
> some of it made sense, some things were pretty incoherent > and some
things were just plain bullshit.
Must be me again. I'm all about that.
> To make a good call, on distance, without physical
> presence, one has to be very, very good, and very
> skeptical about one's own accuracy.
Danijel, you must be a master of time travel living
in the 1850's... otherwise you'd know that ordinary
people now use 'telephones' to do the same thing.
Oh, excuse me - I have a long-distance call...
"Hello?... Who is this?... do I know you?...
this is a joke right?... no, I'm in no need of an
aura reading... yes, I see colors all around me all
the time, especially when the lights are on...
no, I'm not wearing anything as far as you know...
yes, that's right, my breasts are very big and firm...
... listen I hate to be rude, but you interrupted my
Internet session, and I'm sure you'll call again
anyway... bye!"
Sorry ... just a prank ... as far as he knows.
> My experience shows that only living presence can remove
> the doubts about those things, because in that way it is
> possible to gather much more subtle hints and feels about
> the person;
This is true, and I understand the difficulty at times
in being both alive and present when I'm reading.
How I could do otherwise is astonishing, but I somehow
manage it.
> aura is not carved in stone, it changes all the time,
> radically. And I mean radically, its color, texture,
> feeling, brilliance, size, everything, and not only on
> the pranic layer, but also on astral and mental layers
> and sublayers.
Man, I thought *I* was creative... sometimes after peeling
an onion, my tears inspire me to paint all the layers
pretty colors and glue them back together. Someday I
hope to make a "digital onion" so that at the touch of
a button, I can make the colors change in cool patterns.
Maybe I could even market it, like 'The Magic 8-Ball'...
> Psychics who ignore the delicacy of the problem can be
> seriously wrong, sometimes, in unusual situations and
> non-average people they can get pure bullshit. Sometimes,
> however, they can be right on the money.
Hmmm... reminds me of my computer. The insensitive
machine completely ignores the complexity of my emotions,
and quite often, even when I type a blatant hint like
"I am feeling happy", it STILL won't see the obvious,
blindly guessing 'ERROR', when that was the last thing
on my mind. Not a very capable psychic, I'd say...
It won't even FAKE like it understands me. Then again,
what do I know? Maybe it just likes to ghoch with me.
I gotta imagine it has loftier concerns than entertaining
my fantasies with its 'psychic abilities'... I gotta
imagine...
I do have one friend in mind with deadly accurate
intuition. Unfailingly I can ask "What do you see?"
and she'll say something like "The colors are very faint
and indistinct and rather blotchy - I think you should
increase your shudder speed," just as I catch myself
shuddering in pure amazement. Today she told me exactly
what I'd be doing at 9:52pm. "On this transparent plane
above the greens and oranges there's usually a white
fluid, but I see that it's gone..." Within a minute
I was at the convenient store shopping for milk.
A true psychic genius, I tell ya!
> And all the gross layers - prana, astral, mental, reveal
> only the surface of the person. Very few people are able
> to sense the essence, the "soul layers", causal, buddhic,
> atmic and paranirvanic. And sometimes, with really great
> Masters, even that is shallow and doesn't reveal them.
Yes, contrary to the charms of 'Logique de La Mode'
(fashion-modal logic?), Clothes do not make the Master
(Or the Man). If your fetish is colored underwear, that
is one thing. If you're a clothes designer peddling your
fashions to the masses, that is another. If you like
to expose yourself and show off how naked you are, that
is yet another. With all the weirdos, it's no wonder
I never stop asking for ID, b/c I never know for sure
'WHO?' is behind all the masks I hold up.
Boy, I sure look funny
Whoever I appear to be ... love_rikATnospamyahoo.com
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Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 11:26:08 +0200
From: Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamhempseed.com>
To: raptor <splackoATnospamkr.tel.hr>, "Mel August" <bodacia31ATnospamhotmail.com>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Unidentified subject!
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At 05:26 1998.09.10 +0200, raptor wrote:
>>Me thinks it is purple...very similar to the shade for wisdom...but
>>then people tell me...I'm paranoid all the time...so maybe I'm not the
>
> Yes, purple too is one of the colors coming to mind, but it doesn't make
>sense.. I mean, purple goes waay up on the spectrum, and paranoia doesn't
>have anything to do with 'up-there',.. or does it? :))
It depends on who's out there trying to get you. :))))
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Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 11:25:01 +0200
From: Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamhempseed.com>
To: "jb" <janbarenATnospaminfase.es>, "cosmic energy" <sciATnospamnde.vsnl.net.in>,
<kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: RE: Views on Aura-(Part III, IV)
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At 03:27 1998.09.10 +0100, jb wrote:
>Cosmic energy:
>>What actually are Cosmic rays ? They are atomic particles .
>>They travel in space outside the earth's atmosphere at speeds
>>nearly equal to that of light.
>
>Jan: Cosmic rays are essentially gamma (Röntgen) rays of very high energy
>and they are traveling with the speed of light. When these photons collide
>with a nucleus, a shower of (charged) particles is generated. This is
>happening in the atmosphere. May I suggest reading "starquake" in New
>Scientist of August 15?
Exactly. I am not sure what is said about the origin of the CRs, but it is
likely that it has something to do with supernovas and similar high-energy
events; some of it might even originate from the Big Bang. Those particles
are, basically, just light, of extremely high frequency.
The real problem, that I see here, is the huge desire in some people to
somehow validate their belief system, and the obvious choice is to find
some scientific fact/discovery that seems to explain it, so they could say
"you see, even materialist scientists have figured it out, we've been
telling you this for a long time". How comforting... There are many
examples of this; Svami Prabhupada's claim that the antimatter that
scientists are talking about is actually the matter of the "spiritual
world", but since scientists are foolish, they think it will anihilate with
matter, while Gita says that antimatter is transcendental and
indestructable. Oh yes, the guy is the founder of ISKCON, known as Hare
Krishna movement.
The second example is Paramahamsa Yogananda who talked about Einstein's
theory as a proof that "everything is light", that material objects could
be created from light. True, but "light" needed to create an apple would be
sufficient to destroy the entire solar system, if unleashed. :) The error:
spiritual light and Einstein's light are _not_ synonimous terms, and haste
to scream "I told you so, we knew it" can very well make one look foolish
in the long run.
To conclude, cosmic energy is _not_ identifiable with cosmic rays, if we
want to be precise, it must be known from which layer of Creation this
"cosmic energy" originates, meaning, is it high-energy prana, astral,
manasic, causal or similar substance, and instead of reaching for science
to obtain explanations, we should rather stick to asking the right
questions in hope that some sense will eventually come out of the whole thing.
Just me rambling again... :)
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Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/1377
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 11:52:18 +0200
From: Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamhempseed.com>
To: rik_wATnospamrocketmail.com, cosmic energy <sciATnospamnde.vsnl.net.in>,
hlutharATnospambryant.edu
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Views on Aura (Part IV)
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At 02:04 1998.09.10 -0700, Rik Wallace wrote:
>> you are basically saying that
>
> Rik: WHO is saying that? WHO, Danijel?
<snipping intensely>
I have a feeling that this sort of aggression, in insisting on "this idiot
on the other side to finally figure it out" (the idiot being me on this
occasion) is a clear symptom that you have much to figure out yourself in
that matter...
I Am One... the Knower without the known. One without the other. I am One,
Self in all beings, undivided by manifestation... I Am not omnipresent for
there is nowhere but Me to be present, and nothing outside Me is there to
observe. Unmanifested I am manifested as a multitude of beings, being the
witness and essence. In all I am One, and in all I remain the unknown knower.
Is this the thing you are trying to explain to poor misguided Danijel?
I really had it with you guys who entered samadhi state and now you think
you are the self realized sages who can teach the world on Its True Nature.
Bullshit. If you have nothing better to say just don't say it, and save
bandwidth. Next time one of you guys decides to write me stuff like that,
first know that I know all that stuff, and since I'm still writing what I'm
writing, you better pay attention, because that might prove that you missed
something while you were busy realizing yourselves.
This is the Kundalini list. Interest of the people present here might prove
to be more on the manifested side of it, like manifesting higher
consciousness, deeper love and more balanced actions. There always is the I
AM list for those who are not interested in those things and prefer asking
"WHO is it that is saying that? WHO?". That might be a nice ego-boost (oh,
how Self-realized, how detached, how enlightened I Really Am... sigh... and
I Am still in the world, you know, helping the least fortunate ones to know
My True Nature), but I think it is just plain and pure ego- crap.
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Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 14:13:51 +0200
From: raptor <splackoATnospamkr.tel.hr>
To: Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamhempseed.com>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Unidentified subject!
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At 11:26 AM 9/10/98 +0200, Danijel Turina wrote:
>At 05:26 1998.09.10 +0200, raptor wrote:
>>>Me thinks it is purple...very similar to the shade for wisdom...but
>>>then people tell me...I'm paranoid all the time...so maybe I'm not the
>>
>> Yes, purple too is one of the colors coming to mind, but it doesn't make
>>sense.. I mean, purple goes waay up on the spectrum, and paranoia doesn't
>>have anything to do with 'up-there',.. or does it? :))
>
>It depends on who's out there trying to get you. :))))
Hmmm, hmm, hmm.. ;))))))))))))))
Something just popped into my mind.. ;)))
And it wasn't a frog.. :)
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Latah!
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 07:58:04 -0500
From: flute <FluteATnospamcreate.org>
To: "kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Lobster-ese "good stuff" hic
Message-ID: <35F7CCDC.8C6ATnospamcreate.org>
Rolling on the Floor Laughing..
HighFive Lobster..
--
flute
http://www.create.org/healingarts
"The same stream of life that runs through my veins night and day runs
through the world and dances in rhythmic measures." R. Tagore
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 09:07:10 EDT
From: ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com
To: dturinaATnospamhempseed.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com, iamATnospamonelist.com
Subject: Views on Aura (Part IV)
Message-ID: <a88aea72.35f7cefeATnospamaol.com>
In a message dated 9/10/98 5:58:33 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
dturinaATnospamhempseed.com writes:
<<This is the Kundalini list. Interest of the people present here might prove
to be more on the manifested side of it, like manifesting higher
consciousness, deeper love and more balanced actions.
I question the word 'manifesting' - would you clarify your definition? (I
want to make sure we are talking about the same thing here). To me,
manifesting is 'adding to', creating, co-creating.
>There always is the I AM list for those who are not interested in those
things and prefer asking "WHO is it that is saying that? WHO?".
Did it ever cross your mind to answer? It is being asked for a reason. (I
have NO idea why, but it is a question, that I see is being asked sincerely)
>That might be a nice ego-boost
Who is saying that? LOL (just kidding - always wanted to say that).
It would be a nice ego-boost if the one asking has those intentions. But how
can you really know - think about this - how can you really know the
intentions of another?
>(oh, how Self-realized, how detached, how enlightened I Really Am... sigh...
and I Am still in the world, you know, helping the least fortunate ones to
know My True Nature), but I think it is just plain and pure ego- crap.
Those are your interpretations of what is said. It is not what is being said.
Once knowing the true intentions of another, you will realize what is really
happening.
I don't feel a need to defend the IAM list as it needs no defending, but I
would like to give you another perspective from my point of view.
If I am somewhere and I am seeing ego's flying, that is where I want to be!
That is where my greatest growth comes from.... not from walking away, via
discernment (the epitome of separation), or poo-pooing that I REALLY know what
is going on, ie knowing the true intentions of another... but to stay and stay
and stay (and stay some more), to actually not be afraid of communicating,
stay until I am no longer seeing ego's flying - stay until there is no more
separation I am seeing, but only Oneness. It is all about reaching Oneness
and what is Real via real communication - not judging what is said (altho we
can if that is helpful), but realizing that each one of us is there to walk
hand in hand in our journey, rather than separate.
That is the purpose of the IAM list. Nothing more. The IAM list, no matter
what is said or done, helps one to see the True Intentions of another.
Now I invite you back to REALLY communicate. Once we set aside what we think
we know, real growth occurs. For those interested in joining, here is the
website to subscribe:
<A HREF="http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/park/gcn23/iam/iam.html">Yam?I AM
</A>
Much Love and I hope you join us,
xxxtg
* Just because you're smart does not mean that the other guy is stupid *
http://members.aol.com/Teeegeee/tgsplace.html
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 08:09:14 -0500
From: flute <FluteATnospamcreate.org>
To: "kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Aura's
Message-ID: <35F7CF7A.202CATnospamcreate.org>
Guess What,
Aura's change constantly.. So of course, the aura you had 5 minutes
ago is not the same as it is now. Nor is the water in a stream the same
dropplets that you were watching 5 minutes ago.
Everything is movement and change as it should be. What changes it.???
Your mood, your question, your intention. Every thought, every emotion
makes changes in your aura. Nothing is destroyed, just changed. e=mc2.
There is a Video Aura machine at a local bookstore and you can watch
the changes. This is the newest thing that puts Krilian Photography to
shame.
YES.. Everyone can see aura's. You just have to learn how to do it.
Experiencing is the main thing. You can hear and believe something, but
until you make it work for you.. it seems vague.. So the next time you
are totally bored, stare at something.. A plant, a tree, a person, then
watch on the side of the person. (not where your staring). Your
Peripherial Vision is the best picker upper of the aura.
Close your eyes and breath.. watch the lights behind your eyelids.
When your eyes are opened in a bright light then changed to a dark light
suddently the cells at the back of the eye that see color are stimulated
and react.
That's another thing we teach in our Multidimensional Reiki Classes.
Seeing Aura's, feeling stones, etc. etc. Its basic and sooo easy..why do
we have to complicate everything?
Love,
--
flute
http://www.create.org/healingarts
"The same stream of life that runs through my veins night and day runs
through the world and dances in rhythmic measures." R. Tagore
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 08:21:33 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.org>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: stability.
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i was reading Angelique's post on her new found calm-abiding for lack of a
better word. Congrats, glad the labor day weekend was as productive as you
had hoped it would be.
maitri,
--me
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 10:08:52 -0400
From: "Wonderer" <mrtn74aATnospamprodigy.com>
To: "Magne Aga" <magneagaATnospammonet.no>, <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: LADY ROSES OF THORNS SLEPT IN 1000 YEARS
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Magne: I've been betrayed. Betrayed deeply. But I cannot be *angry*.
Do you know what the worst about betrayals are ? They are done with
the best cause, with good
intentions. And you cannot be angry on people doing things with good
intentions, can you ? Sorrow and compassion are the words.
Dear Magne,
Yes! I can feel the sweet pain of your paradox. Sometimes, even
guilt is sexy, when you must endure the sweet pain of making amends
for your black deeds. Your words "But I cannot be angry" are key.
You are stuck, and the pent-up rage must be healed. To transform the
negative feelings to love, you must first admit they exist. Look it
full in the face, feel it burn, then see it all, your acts and hers,
as misguided acts of love. The more you see the love, the hate shall
be deminished, and the rage will subside. Focus on this love often,
until you feel no trace of the sorrow.
I have been doing this, and it is far easier than it sounds. The
release is freeing, because your energy is restored to you, and not
bound up (as in karmic binds) or reserved to maintain the rage,
sorrow, fear, hate, or whatever negative feeling you need to let go
of. Remember, if it seems difficult, that you are freeing yourself
from this sore, and it becomes easier to forgive everyone. Your
forgiveness will be there, as well as your requests for forgiveness,
throughout the ages until this person is ready to embrace your love
and do the same. In the meantime, you are free, for you have burned
loose these bonds.
Loving Light to You
Cathy
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 21:10:02 +0500
From: cosmic energy <sciATnospamnde.vsnl.net.in>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Abrupt end of our series!
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Dear friends,
The reaction of some dear members was as expected. They are accustomed to
the regular bickerings, spanking, leg-pulling - that one often find their
way in the list . Besides, the omniscient brothers and sisters, who make
their presence felt with their stuff, feel that they are being
side-lined(as everyone is discussing AURA!). But friends, are not PATIENCE
and PERSEVERENCE, the prerequisites in the spiritual path? The "I am
something", the EGO of self will definitely hinder the spiritual path.
Knowledge is endless. Every tomorrow will remind us of our yesterday's
ignorance. We receive a large number of letters daily; we keep the useful
ones and send the rest to the trash. When one is GRUMBLING about it, there
must be reason for it. SUPER EGO! Time to just peep into self.
One man's bread is other man's poison. This has been existing all through
the ages. Here, since it is poisoning him, he will deprive the other, of
his bread. That is to say, we have decided to put an abrupt end to this
series. Hi, fella, buddy , let us continue to talk of the dreams, who is
missing whom, vultures, relations, spanking one another, and all the BS -
which interests everyone! Any howling?
Well, there is nothing wrong. All are right. What one says depends where
one STANDS.
With profound love and regards,
Ms.Seema
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 11:59:21 -0400
From: Harsha <hlutharATnospambryant.edu>
To: cosmic energy <sciATnospamnde.vsnl.net.in>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Abrupt end of our series!
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> Ms. Seema wrote: Well, there is nothing wrong. All are right. What one says
> depends where
> one STANDS.
Harsha: Indeed Ms. Seema. That is why it is best to find out where One Truly
Stands. Then you need not worry about where others stand. As I suggested to
you in an earlier post, why not post your information on a web page. That way,
those who are interested can go there. For you to expect that there will be no
questioning of what you post on this list is unrealistic and presumptuous. The
great Sages like Ramana have said that the human life is a precious gift and
should not be wasted on trivialities. Why do you not sincerely study those
teachings and reflect on them and practice. If you truly discover the
knowledge and understanding within, then you can share and at least the
spiritually minded people will listen. Otherwise what is the use of adding to
the spiritual circus. Is there a lack of clowns? You must answer for yourself.
Best wishes.
P.S. from Harsha: Do not be frustrated. Understand why you feel rejected.
Understand the nature of what is happening. It is not outside you. It is
within you. God bless you.
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 21:26:48 +0530 (IST)
From: Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in>
To: cosmic energy <sciATnospamnde.vsnl.net.in>
cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Abrupt end of our series!
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Cosmic u should go on with ur vision. Look wat others say. If there is
something right in wat they say. HAppily accept that learning or just turn
a deaf ear towards that or teach them so that they understand what ur
vision is. If u think u r right u shouldn't give up like this.
There is much to learn frm what other people points in us.
I remember that SHALOKA in SANSKRIT one of whose line says that wise
people tie the people like a goat in their house. And these people r those
jo uski ninda karte hain.
love and light,
Anurag
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 09:10:59 -0700
From: fredaann2ATnospamjuno.com (freda ann)
To: sciATnospamnde.vsnl.net.in
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Abrupt end of our series!
Message-ID: <19980910.091100.-226927.0.fredaann2ATnospamjuno.com>
Was that a lion just blurred by?
or an overactive amygdala
: 0
<In a given situation, the amygdala reacts before the logical
reasoning part of the brain. For e.g., if one reacts before grasping and
analysing the intent of the speaker ; the pros and cons of the
circumstances >
baaaaaa,
freda
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Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 10:18:31 -0600
From: nancy <nancyATnospamwtp.net>
To: "kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: Abrupt end of our series!
Message-ID: <35F7FBD7.831DAE6FATnospamwtp.net>
cosmic energy wrote:
> Dear friends,
>
> The reaction of some dear members was as expected. They are accustomed to
> the regular bickerings, spanking, leg-pulling - that one often find their
> way in the list . Besides, the omniscient brothers and sisters, who make
> their presence felt with their stuff, feel that they are being
> side-lined(as everyone is discussing AURA!).
Talk about EGO. Jeez! "They" feel "side-lined" because other people want to
express their views? This is sheer nonsense. True spiritual masters would be
amused at trying to be one-uped. There would be absolutely no attachment to
anyone else blindly following the information without opinion.
> But friends, are not PATIENCE
> and PERSEVERENCE, the prerequisites in the spiritual path?
Why don't YOU answer that question in light of your behavior.
> That is to say, we have decided to put an abrupt end to this
> series.
Boo hoo. Taking home your spiritual toys and going home.
Nancy
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