1998/09/06 11:59
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #635
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 635
Today's Topics:
Re: Thanks [ v <vcooperATnospameagle.ptialaska.net> ]
Re: scooby dooby doo... [ v <vcooperATnospameagle.ptialaska.net> ]
Re: Thanks [ v <vcooperATnospameagle.ptialaska.net> ]
Re: Energy Fluctuations [ v <vcooperATnospameagle.ptialaska.net> ]
More confused [ "Glenny" <wdreamsATnospamtcis.net> ]
RE: Thanks [ "jb" <janbarenATnospaminfase.es> ]
Re: Help! [ GISLENNEATnospamaol.com ]
Re: More confused [ nancy <nancyATnospamwtp.net> ]
Re: Thanks [ "alan gaskins" <ravenkrossATnospamhotmail. ]
Re: Thanks [ "alan gaskins" <ravenkrossATnospamhotmail. ]
Re: scooby dooby doo... [ "alan gaskins" <ravenkrossATnospamhotmail. ]
seaside [ "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.or ]
Re: More confused [ "alan gaskins" <ravenkrossATnospamhotmail. ]
Re: More confused [ "Glenny" <wdreamsATnospamtcis.net> ]
Re: seaside [ "alan gaskins" <ravenkrossATnospamhotmail. ]
Re: Drifting [ "alan gaskins" <ravenkrossATnospamhotmail. ]
Re: More confused [ "Kat" <kcliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca> ]
Re: More confused [ nancy <nancyATnospamwtp.net> ]
Re: More confused [ "alan gaskins" <ravenkrossATnospamhotmail. ]
Re: More confused [ "Paul" <paulwestATnospamstationone.demon.c ]
Books? WEb Site? Info? [ "Glenny" <wdreamsATnospamtcis.net> ]
Re: More confused [ "Evelyn Niedbalec" <log_me_inATnospamhotma ]
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 20:31:20 -0800
From: v <vcooperATnospameagle.ptialaska.net>
To: nickynoodleATnospamnetrax.net
CC: "kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: Thanks
Message-ID: <35F20FF2.584DATnospameagle.ptialaska.net>
Dearest Barbara (& to the list),
Thankyou for sharing how it's been for you. Quite often I cannot
understand either why the relentless suffering situational causes go on
& on & on, but am forced to *get tough* & deal with it anyway, the
options are way too grim!
What I am now thinking is because of past unresolved traumas, when we
become *aware* to the 'cause & effect' from thoughts & words & actions,
some of us are demonstrated to just exactly where we are as a being,
upon this level.
If we elect to believe in any way that we are who we think we are,
this is the only thing that makes sense.
If your mother is sueing her 3 daughters, than obviously your
upbringing was based in miscommunications, & perhaps abuse. Have you
resolved these issues yet? Or have you just lived as long as you have &
placed them upon the back burner?
Without suitable reflection & REAL resolution of past issues which
involve pain & suffering, it seems we are just cursed to relive & relive
the same levels of suffering until we see it & do something about it.
Sorta like that cartoon character in 'Lil Abner' who always walked
around with a dark cloud & rain falling over his head.
Our individual atmospheres really DO affect situations & attitudes
towards us. It is important to talk them out unconditionally with
detached intelligent people to get the feedback which enables us to do
the *inner work* for REAL change to manifest, otherwise we are just in
*festering* mode & the invisible realm WILL, & DOES manifest who we are,
at any given point.
You must be really strong & a survivor to admit all this grief to
such an objective audience of psychics & inner healing workers.
Obviously, you have very good taste as well!
Some of us (& I count myself amongst them) just have to be *on hold*,
& do our inner homework. Prayer & meditation & learning to live in the
present moment, & not be a victim of the past - this is the kernel of
change.
I hope what I say is making sense.
With Great Compassion,
vc
Barbara Alexander wrote:
>
> I can say that the past year has been what I now label the year from
> hell. It has not all been bad but the type of stress has been horrible.
<snip>
--
ATnospam-->-->--- ATnospam-->-->--- ATnospam-->-->--- ATnospam-->-->--- ATnospam-->-->--- ATnospam-->-->---
"I talk to myself because I like dealing with a better class of people."
Jackie Mason
Valerie Cooper http://www.geocities/soho/7982/
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 20:33:42 -0800
From: v <vcooperATnospameagle.ptialaska.net>
To: Paul <paulwestATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: scooby dooby doo...
Message-ID: <35F21080.2252ATnospameagle.ptialaska.net>
ah ha! Looking for more abuse, are we?
;-)
*lolol!*
v
Paul wrote:
>
> Angelique,
>
> Have you dissapeared in a puff os smoke? You're quiet lately. Have you
> enlightened?
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 20:41:34 -0800
From: v <vcooperATnospameagle.ptialaska.net>
To: Paul <paulwestATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Thanks
Message-ID: <35F21257.3D2CATnospameagle.ptialaska.net>
Paul, you are young.
In the "olden times". from time immemorial until just recently, blood
was thicker than water. Families shared a bond. The responsibility did
not cease with growing older, nor did the relationships.
This is the way we need to be again. Please do not encourage this dear
soul to disattch herself from her flesh & blood just because they are
upsetting her!
This "total individual alone" business has to find a mode of
commonality, since we are all purportedly "all one", eh? Family ties are
important, NOT to be downplayed so flippantly to someone who is actually
FEELING them so immediately!
It feels right to me, anyway, that she should feel concerned for her
immediate family.
v
Paul wrote:
>
> Nicky,
>
> > I can say that the past year has been what I now label the year from
> > hell.
>
> I am in some ways sorry to hear of your struggles but in another way I
> am drawn not to be. (and so on...)
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 21:01:15 -0800
From: v <vcooperATnospameagle.ptialaska.net>
To: Rick Puravs <ric51ATnospamgeorge.lhi.net>
CC: Marybeth Gottshall <kmgATnospamtaconic.net>, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Energy Fluctuations
Message-ID: <35F216F3.45FEATnospameagle.ptialaska.net>
<snippage of postage>
wow. this is a really good post! I want to climb onboard & have sexy
inner guides too!
where do I sign up???
Very good reread material!
;-)
vc
ATnospam-->-->--- ATnospam-->-->--- ATnospam-->-->--- ATnospam-->-->--- ATnospam-->-->--- ATnospam-->-->---
"I talk to myself because I like dealing with a better class of people."
Jackie Mason
Valerie Cooper http://www.geocities/soho/7982/
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 07:56:25 -0400
From: "Glenny" <wdreamsATnospamtcis.net>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: More confused
Message-ID: <02ab01bdd98d$6058f260$e1551bd0ATnospamdefault>
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After reading this list for the past 12 hours, I am more confused about what
kundilini is about. Why would I want to bring pain to myself??
Glenny
ICQ #7484720
Wildest Dreams Farm
in Butler, Pennsylvania
3 Adults, 7 kids, 2 kids-in-law, 3 grandkids, 19 goats and too many cats
http://www.tcis.net/~wdreams/wdreams.html
Visit the Web Site of our local Goat group!
www.tcis.net/~wdreams/badga.html
-----Original Message-----
From: v <vcooperATnospameagle.ptialaska.net>
To: nickynoodleATnospamnetrax.net <nickynoodleATnospamnetrax.net>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Date: Sunday, September 06, 1998 1:15 AM
Subject: Re: Thanks
>Dearest Barbara (& to the list),
> Thankyou for sharing how it's been for you. Quite often I cannot
>understand either why the relentless suffering situational causes go on
>& on & on, but am forced to *get tough* & deal with it anyway, the
>options are way too grim!
> What I am now thinking is because of past unresolved traumas, when we
>become *aware* to the 'cause & effect' from thoughts & words & actions,
>some of us are demonstrated to just exactly where we are as a being,
>upon this level.
> If we elect to believe in any way that we are who we think we are,
>this is the only thing that makes sense.
> If your mother is sueing her 3 daughters, than obviously your
>upbringing was based in miscommunications, & perhaps abuse. Have you
>resolved these issues yet? Or have you just lived as long as you have &
>placed them upon the back burner?
> Without suitable reflection & REAL resolution of past issues which
>involve pain & suffering, it seems we are just cursed to relive & relive
>the same levels of suffering until we see it & do something about it.
>Sorta like that cartoon character in 'Lil Abner' who always walked
>around with a dark cloud & rain falling over his head.
> Our individual atmospheres really DO affect situations & attitudes
>towards us. It is important to talk them out unconditionally with
>detached intelligent people to get the feedback which enables us to do
>the *inner work* for REAL change to manifest, otherwise we are just in
>*festering* mode & the invisible realm WILL, & DOES manifest who we are,
>at any given point.
> You must be really strong & a survivor to admit all this grief to
>such an objective audience of psychics & inner healing workers.
>Obviously, you have very good taste as well!
> Some of us (& I count myself amongst them) just have to be *on hold*,
>& do our inner homework. Prayer & meditation & learning to live in the
>present moment, & not be a victim of the past - this is the kernel of
>change.
> I hope what I say is making sense.
>With Great Compassion,
>vc
>
>Barbara Alexander wrote:
>>
>> I can say that the past year has been what I now label the year from
>> hell. It has not all been bad but the type of stress has been horrible.
><snip>
>--
>ATnospam-->-->--- ATnospam-->-->--- ATnospam-->-->--- ATnospam-->-->--- ATnospam-->-->--- ATnospam-->-->---
>"I talk to myself because I like dealing with a better class of people."
> Jackie Mason
>Valerie Cooper http://www.geocities/soho/7982/
>
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 13:46:54 +0100
From: "jb" <janbarenATnospaminfase.es>
To: "K. list" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: RE: Thanks
Message-ID: <000a01bdd994$6d57cde0$4bf14dc3ATnospamjb>
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Paul,
Being detached doesn't equal being indifferent. Being detached means
emotions will not root - they leave no impressions behind. So relatives,
unfamiliar with K. etc., would not notice the difference between detached &
involved. Detachment is not a mental mode that can be switched on & off - it
is a state of being.
Jan
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 08:58:39 EDT
From: GISLENNEATnospamaol.com
To: nickynoodleATnospamnetrax.net, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Help!
Message-ID: <21bd0534.35f286ffATnospamaol.com>
Hi Barb
Don't worry sweety, I too am going through the same thing!! It is an awful
feeling isn't it!!
for two days already i haven't been able to breath, for a week now my
fingers have been so stiff, this morning i was thinking why me....
I felt as though I don't want to live anymore.When will this all be over?
!!!!!!!!!
I do not go out much anymore either.
there are moments though in between all the pain, and the stomach aches and
burning that I feel like WOW, after all of this is done I will be free, I will
be like God (which of course we are already) ....its just the going through
ths that makes it harder...why all the pain? Why?
Can't Shaki be more Gentle? Do i have to end up in the hospital before all
of this is over?
Its hard and I (we) some of us, have no other help but eachother when we
decide to get back on line...I live in Philadelphia and i have not found one
spiritual soul yet!!
Hang in the Barb...soon this will be over and believe it or not we will be
Thankful for it...it is something we have chosen before birth...
love and light.gis
Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 08:19:13 -0600
From: nancy <nancyATnospamwtp.net>
To: Glenny <wdreamsATnospamtcis.net>, kundalini-1 <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: More confused
Message-ID: <35F299DE.C9A8594ATnospamwtp.net>
Glenny wrote:
> After reading this list for the past 12 hours, I am more confused about what
> kundilini is about. Why would I want to bring pain to myself??
Hi Glenny,
Great question. Spiritual awakening can seem very traumatic and painful. Many,
as you've read, experience extreme physical symptoms. Others have experienced
abandonment by family and friendsm, psychological disturbances, and other
"symptoms."
Yet these changes are all for the higher good of our soul. As I have mentioned
before many times, I was married, had a business. My dream was to become a
wealthy independent business owner. All around me, clear signs indicated it was
time to move on. I wouldn't listen, wouldn't see. The only way I would make the
changes my soul was calling me to make was to have it all ripped away. Really
sucked. Was very traumatic to lose a husband of 10 years, a business, my house.
I had no job, no money, no hope. I wouldn't change until I couldn't go back to
the old pattern.
Why would anyone want to go through that change? You DON'T at the time it's
happening. It's been two years since the storm arrived full-force into my life,
and I can say I'm glad that I changed (though kicking and screaming!). I'm very
happily single with a good job which provides for my daughter and me. I don't
miss the business. I found my concept an "adoptive" dad, and so it lives on. I
didn't need that big house which required many repairs. I now live in an
apartment that is still in my daughter's school district and much easier to
manage.
It's taken two years for me to put my feet firmly under myself. And I am
finally feeling NORMAL again! I realized it this weekend as I was able to
actually read silly women's magazines. It's been ages! Usually, I'm either
journaling or reading books which explain what's happening to me.
Physically, I have really worked to take care of myself. I'm exercising
regularly. I am eating nutritious foods with little desire to eat processed,
sugary or fatty foods. And after a severe reaction to alcohol last weekend,
I've decided to avoid alcohol as a rule. (I'm still hanging onto the coffee
though!) I can't remember when I have felt better physically and emotionally.
It must be obvious externally as well as I've had three or four people in the
past week tell me I didn't look old enough to have an 11-year old! I never
heard that before this year.
I would say, Glenny, that when kundalini wants to manifest in someone's life,
there's no stopping it. Struggling against this process and being adamant about
OUR will produces the pain. That's my opinion anyway.
I'm glad you're here, Glenny.
Nancy
Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 07:54:55 PDT
From: "alan gaskins" <ravenkrossATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com, nickynoodleATnospamnetrax.net
Subject: Re: Thanks
Message-ID: <19980906145456.13608.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
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One thing that I did find from this year is a sort of quietspace
within where I can rest my spirit a bit.
Bingo! - It seems this past year has brought about alot of changes
for many,self included. Perhaps some karmic cleansing for brighter
things to come.
Cultivate and nurture that inner sanctum. You will probably find
enough fertile ground there to plant many lovely changes.
Peace, & a MUCH better year!
NAMASTE,
A.G.
Everthing is relative to the mind, including the mind itself...
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Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 08:11:32 PDT
From: "alan gaskins" <ravenkrossATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com, nickynoodleATnospamnetrax.net
Subject: Re: Thanks
Message-ID: <19980906151133.17590.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
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One thing that I did find from this year is a sort of quietspace
within where I can rest my spirit a bit.
Bingoski Barb! - It may sound oversimplified to some, but the
finding of the inner sanctum could be worth it all. Notwithstanding
this past year did seem to bring alot of cosmic/karmic cleansing,
hopefully in preparation for brighter, more enlightened days ahead.
There's more to come, but hopefully not so rough.
Nurture that space within, it is a doorway to your true home. And
no doubt you will plant a garden there, where only the pure and
beautiful things bloom.
Wishing us all a better year ahead,
Namaste
Raven/Alan
(..."you know you got to go through hell before you get to
heaven...":-).)
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Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 08:14:47 PDT
From: "alan gaskins" <ravenkrossATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, paulwestATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk
Subject: Re: scooby dooby doo...
Message-ID: <19980906151448.362.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
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>From: "Paul" <paulwestATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
>Date: 6 Sep 98 04:25:24 +0000
>Subject: scooby dooby doo...
>To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
>
>Angelique,
>
>Have you dissapeared in a puff os smoke? You're quiet lately. Have you
>enlightened?
>
>--
>Paul.
>
>IRC: #amiga, Dalnet: #blitz
>WWW: http://www.stationone.demon.co.uk
>E-M: paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk
>
>
Perhaps she is resting from augusty winds. Be patient, Goddess
provides. :-)
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Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 10:38:44 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.org>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: seaside
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980906103337.6517A-100000ATnospamwinc0>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
white sand,
cyan peach sky
dotted with
thangka-streaky clouds
Dharma-proclaimer
Ocean Sound
roaring
on morning tide.
waverunner
birds chase
water edges.
sandles caught by the
thongs in one hand,
a long strand of
redwood beads in the other
sand says
om
and the air goes ah
and the water goes hung
heartwave finishes the sound
(vajra guru padme siddhi hung)
thanx guys!
maitri,
--janpa (for k-list :) nice folks!)
Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 08:51:04 PDT
From: "alan gaskins" <ravenkrossATnospamhotmail.com>
To: wdreamsATnospamtcis.net, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, nancyATnospamwtp.net
Subject: Re: More confused
Message-ID: <19980906155105.15499.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
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I would say, Glenny, that when kundalini wants to manifest insomeone's
life,
there's no stopping it. Struggling against this process andbeing adamant
about
OUR will produces the pain. That's my opinion anyway.
I'm glad you're here, Glenny.Nancy
AMEN! The k-train is gonna run, no matter what is on the tracks. There
will be struggle and "suffering" in life with or without K.
K teaches us the purpose and proper handling of all this, if we choose
to listen. Like Nancy said, the suffering is our response, K "busts us"
on that, like slapping someone hysterical:-)
Namaste,
Raven...
Everthing is relative to the mind, including the mind itself...
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Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 11:52:03 -0400
From: "Glenny" <wdreamsATnospamtcis.net>
To: "alan gaskins" <ravenkrossATnospamhotmail.com>, <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>,
<nancyATnospamwtp.net>
Subject: Re: More confused
Message-ID: <03bf01bdd9ae$4b9a9240$e1551bd0ATnospamdefault>
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OK, how will I know if the k-train is rolling??
If it has anything to do with questioning your beliefs, your life, your
everything and knowing that some hard decisions are for your betterment,
then it may have hit!!
Glenny
ICQ #7484720
Wildest Dreams Farm
in Butler, Pennsylvania
3 Adults, 7 kids, 2 kids-in-law, 3 grandkids, 19 goats and too many cats
http://www.tcis.net/~wdreams/wdreams.html
Visit the Web Site of our local Goat group!
www.tcis.net/~wdreams/badga.html
-----Original Message-----
From: alan gaskins <ravenkrossATnospamhotmail.com>
To: wdreamsATnospamtcis.net <wdreamsATnospamtcis.net>; kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
<kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>; nancyATnospamwtp.net <nancyATnospamwtp.net>
Date: Sunday, September 06, 1998 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: More confused
>I would say, Glenny, that when kundalini wants to manifest insomeone's
>life,
>there's no stopping it. Struggling against this process andbeing adamant
>about
>OUR will produces the pain. That's my opinion anyway.
>I'm glad you're here, Glenny.Nancy
>
>AMEN! The k-train is gonna run, no matter what is on the tracks. There
>will be struggle and "suffering" in life with or without K.
>K teaches us the purpose and proper handling of all this, if we choose
>to listen. Like Nancy said, the suffering is our response, K "busts us"
>on that, like slapping someone hysterical:-)
>
> Namaste,
> Raven...
>Everthing is relative to the mind, including the mind itself...
>
>
>______________________
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Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 09:17:29 PDT
From: "alan gaskins" <ravenkrossATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, dorf01ATnospammail.win.org
Subject: Re: seaside
Message-ID: <19980906161730.17281.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain
>Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 10:38:44 -0500 (CDT)
>From: "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.org>
>To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
>Subject: seaside
>
>
>white sand,
>
>cyan peach sky
>dotted with
>thangka-streaky clouds
>
>Dharma-proclaimer
>Ocean Sound
>roaring
>on morning tide.
>
>waverunner
>birds chase
>water edges.
>
>sandles caught by the
>thongs in one hand,
>
>a long strand of
>redwood beads in the other
>
>sand says
>
>om
>
>and the air goes ah
>
>and the water goes hung
>
>heartwave finishes the sound
>
>(vajra guru padme siddhi hung)
>
>thanx guys!
>
>maitri,
>
>--janpa (for k-list :) nice folks!)
>
>
A Thank You Haiku for You
Air kisses water
Water kisses earth and sky
Seagull medicine
Everthing is relative to the mind, including the mind itself...
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Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 09:23:14 PDT
From: "alan gaskins" <ravenkrossATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, iamATnospamonelist.com, nondualismATnospamonelist.com,
david.bozziATnospamsnet.net
Subject: Re: Drifting
Message-ID: <19980906162315.26981.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
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David Bozzi Poetry Web Site Coming Soon
Looking forward to it! Thanks fellow Wordsmith!
Everthing is relative to the mind, including the mind itself...
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Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 12:21:38 -0400
From: "Kat" <kcliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca>
To: "Glenny" <wdreamsATnospamtcis.net>, "alan gaskins" <ravenkrossATnospamhotmail.com>,
<kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>, <nancyATnospamwtp.net>
Subject: Re: More confused
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Hi Glenny,
>OK, how will I know if the k-train is rolling??
I will leave this question to the experts on this list.
>
>If it has anything to do with questioning your beliefs, your life, your
>everything and knowing that some hard decisions are for your betterment,
>then it may have hit!!
This is where I felt I had to say something. What you expressed here is not
always connected to the Kundalini but it can be. When one begins to
question their beliefs, their lifestyle and everything that they understand
it is the beginning of becoming aware of your path. Decisions are always
difficult when the rug has been pulled out from underneath you feet. You
need to sit back , relax and listen to the voice from within. This voice
will never guide you incorrectly. On this list you will get to meet many
interesting people and you will also get to hear many different opinions.
Mine included. What you need to do is to take what you are learning within
to see if it fits the changes that you are going through and so that you can
decide whether it is truth for you or not. Know that the Kundalini
experience is different for each one of us. Pain is not a necessary part of
it. Those that are ready for the K-rising usually have a wonderful time
with it. Those that were not ready for it get a lot of help from the
wonderful people on this list. The K's affect on us is based completely
on what is ever necessary for our own personnel growth. Just so you
know......I am a beginner. A person that still is not sure what is going on
but I have no doughts about the voice from within. I use to but I no longer
do. If anything in this message does not seem right to you just disregard
it!
In L&L & Understanding,
Katharine
Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 10:25:38 -0600
From: nancy <nancyATnospamwtp.net>
To: Glenny <wdreamsATnospamtcis.net>, kundalini-1 <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: More confused
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Glenny wrote:
> OK, how will I know if the k-train is rolling??
>
> If it has anything to do with questioning your beliefs, your life, your
> everything and knowing that some hard decisions are for your betterment,
> then it may have hit!!
Sounds like a definite possibility! Besides, if it hadn't hit, you'd
probably think that this list was home to lunatics. [grin]
The good news is that you are among friends who can listen and support you
(and yes, as Alan said, slap you when you get hysterical! :-)
Nancy
Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 10:03:49 PDT
From: "alan gaskins" <ravenkrossATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, nancyATnospamwtp.net, wdreamsATnospamtcis.net
Subject: Re: More confused
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OK, how will I know if the k-train is rolling??
If it has anything to do with questioning your beliefs, yourlife, your
everything and knowing that some hard decisions are for yourbetterment,
then it may have hit!!
I here the whistle blowing! - that's part of it. Keep your eye on
the rail and your hand on the throttle, and don't get scalded by the
steam!!!
NAMASTE
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Date: 6 Sep 98 18:06:26 +0000
From: "Paul" <paulwestATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: More confused
Message-Id: <OUT-35F2CF22.MD-1.0.paulwestATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
> OK, how will I know if the k-train is rolling??
When the k-train rolls you know about it! ;-)
--
Paul.
IRC: #amiga, Dalnet: #blitz
WWW: http://www.stationone.demon.co.uk
E-M: paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 14:29:52 -0400
From: "Glenny" <wdreamsATnospamtcis.net>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Books? WEb Site? Info?
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Well, you guys have really peaked my interest here but now I need to know
more. Thanks to some of you UI have been able to read a bit about Kundilini
but would like to learn more. Point this train in the right direction,
please.
Glenny
ICQ #7484720
Wildest Dreams Farm
in Butler, Pennsylvania
3 Adults, 7 kids, 2 kids-in-law, 3 grandkids, 19 goats and too many cats
http://www.tcis.net/~wdreams/wdreams.html
Visit the Web Site of our local Goat group!
www.tcis.net/~wdreams/badga.html
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From: alan gaskins <ravenkrossATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>; nancyATnospamwtp.net
<nancyATnospamwtp.net>; wdreamsATnospamtcis.net <wdreamsATnospamtcis.net>
Date: Sunday, September 06, 1998 1:45 PM
Subject: Re: More confused
>OK, how will I know if the k-train is rolling??
>If it has anything to do with questioning your beliefs, yourlife, your
>everything and knowing that some hard decisions are for yourbetterment,
>then it may have hit!!
>
> I here the whistle blowing! - that's part of it. Keep your eye on
>the rail and your hand on the throttle, and don't get scalded by the
>steam!!!
> NAMASTE
>
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Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 11:42:56 PDT
From: "Evelyn Niedbalec" <log_me_inATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: More confused
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No pain no gain. The gifts don't come for free and I wouldn't say
everyone is ready for k. Best to get your mental house in order before
inviting the tigers over to play. And consider also that you tend to
hear a lot from people experiencing the most pain, because they are the
ones who need the most love and support. Not everyone experiences it
the same way. There are over 100 list subscribers (probably a lot more
but I don't remember) and most of them have not spoken.
Sometimes I do wonder if I would have embarked on this journey if I had
knowledge of the consequences beforehand, but to be honest, I think that
is why I DIDN'T have knowledge in the beginning. (I was tricked dag nam
it!) And sometimes I do wonder if the benefits outweigh the
disadvantages, but only time will tell. ANd since I am already part way
down the road, the road up ahead still looks more attractive than the
road back the way I came. So on I go!
-E
>After reading this list for the past 12 hours, I am more confused about
what
>kundilini is about. Why would I want to bring pain to myself??
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