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kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #634


kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 634

Today's Topics:
  k and animals [ "Evelyn Niedbalec" <log_me_inATnospamhotma ]
  Help [ Maureen Heffernan <morlightATnospammhonlin ]
  (no subject) [ Barbara Alexander <nickynoodleATnospamnetr ]
  re: bits of energy [ "b bah" <happyhunaATnospamhotmail.com> ]
  Re: k and animals [ "Evelyn Niedbalec" <log_me_inATnospamhotma ]
  Re: k and animals [ "guy johnson" <tantriciskATnospamhotmail.c ]
  Re: Energy Fluctuations [ "Rick Puravs" <ric51ATnospamgeorge.lhi.net ]
  Thanks [ Barbara Alexander <nickynoodleATnospamnetr ]
  something odd, kinda rambling. [ "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.or ]
  Re: Thanks [ "Paul" <paulwestATnospamstationone.demon.c ]
  scooby dooby doo... [ "Paul" <paulwestATnospamstationone.demon.c ]
  Re: something odd, kinda rambling. [ MoonrisempATnospamaol.com ]
  Re: Energy Fluctuations [ "Rick Puravs" <ric51ATnospamgeorge.lhi.net ]
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 17:18:32 PDT
From: "Evelyn Niedbalec" <log_me_inATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: k and animals
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Here's a weird musing. I have heard that k is a separate energy,
dormant in most humans. I wonder if animals besides humans have k
energy. If so, I wonder if they have awakenings or are just naturally
in tune with it already. ANd what about plants?
-E

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Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 20:24:19 +0000
From: Maureen Heffernan <morlightATnospammhonline.net>
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Help
Message-ID: <35F19DF3.D648B432ATnospammhonline.net>

Barb,
After reading your post I got the impression of pinched nerves in your
neck effecting your face and another pinched nerve in the thorasic area.
How bout a great shiatsu massage to open up those blockages? Just
something that came to me.
Will keep you in my prayers.
More Light.
+ Maureen
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 20:27:08 -0400
From: Barbara Alexander <nickynoodleATnospamnetrax.net>
To: "kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: (no subject)
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 Kristin
The doctors say it is fibromyalgia. They put me on Prozac but all that
does is take the edge off the pain. At times even that doesn't do it.
My heart is okay and there is no cause for the skin eruptions.
Fibromyalgia is diagnosed by the pain that occurs when they can't find
another cause. The pain has been going on for several years now and is
increasing in intensity.
  barb
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 17:48:12 PDT
From: "b bah" <happyhunaATnospamhotmail.com>
To: annfisherATnospamstic.net
Cc: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: re: bits of energy
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 Hi Ann,

   If you have a microwave, stand in front of it approx. 2 ft. away, let
eyes become slightly unfocused, sort'aa dreamy stare. You might see the
little energy "comets" flying out of the righthand sidewall arcing
towards the food and the opposite wall.
   On days that I feel fresh and energetic I can see the zooming
"comets" inside the windshield of our cars. This is in daylight. At
night with only a night light on in the rooms with beamed(cathedral}
ceilings , all along the ridge pole there's a 3 ft. wide band that looks
like a mini Milky WAy with the teeny bits of light zooming around each
on their own individual electron-like paths. At nite 1'clock or later,
if you're tired you might not have to soften you gaze very much, if at
all. Have fun with this.
    Aloha, barb

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Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 18:04:21 PDT
From: "Evelyn Niedbalec" <log_me_inATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: k and animals
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For some foolish reason, I managed to send this reply to myself and not
the k list, so here it is forwarded.
-E

>What I did when I was curious about this thing called kundalini is do a
>search on the net and read a lot of websites. Then I joined this list
>to hear about the experiences. That's all I really know about it. I
>don't think any one can say "this is what k is: blah blah blah" like
>one could when describing a car engine. I think we are all trying to
>get a better understanding of k and how it works inside us.
>
>I can tell you that it is not always so painful for everyone. I think
>my symptoms have been middle of the road painwise. I few years ago, I
>was sick for 3 months with intestinal probs, that was the worst part.
>Since then I have had to be a little careful about when and what I eat.
>Not eating first thing in the morning or late at night and no more
>eating a whole container of Ben and Jerry's ice cream.
>
>In the last year, I have had some headaches between my eyes for several
>months. These were treatable by aspirin when they got too irritating.
>The worst part was simply not knowing what was causing them at the
time.
>Lately, I have had some episodes of extreme tiredness. I simply had to
>sleep a lot more and take it easy. (Although I was extremely tired, it
>was not as bad as the many months of exhaustion I endured while working
>full time and taking 20 units full time at UCLA as well as doing
>volunteer work in order to get references.). I have also been
>experiencing a lot of irritating itching all over my body during the
>day, which previously only occured while listening to the hemisync
>"meditation" type tapes.
>
>Benefits include increased intuition about things and people (sometimes
>this can be a pain in the butt too), increasing ability to see auras
and
>energy fields, episodes of out of body travel at night (sometimes
>prefaced by that oh so cool vibrations thing), a feeling of peace and
>contentment with myself that was previously lacking, and all kinds of
>neato tingling, energy surges, etc in the body.
>-E
>
>
>>Can you tell me in short what Kundalini is about because I have had
the
>>subject brought into my life and so far all I hear about is pain.
Yes,
>it
>>vibrates so much it is scary but, what about the breathtaking energy
>from
>>what ever is happening to me? Can anyone give me a larger view of
what
>I
>>am getting into? Help, thanks Amanda
>>
>>Evelyn Niedbalec wrote:
>>
>>> Here's a weird musing. I have heard that k is a separate energy,
>>> dormant in most humans. I wonder if animals besides humans have k
>>> energy. If so, I wonder if they have awakenings or are just
>naturally
>>> in tune with it already. ANd what about plants?
>>> -E
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>>
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>
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Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 18:29:25 PDT
From: "guy johnson" <tantriciskATnospamhotmail.com>
To: log_me_inATnospamhotmail.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Cc: nvmorganATnospamaol.com
Subject: Re: k and animals
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>Here's a weird musing. I have heard that k is a separate energy,
>dormant in most humans. I wonder if animals besides humans have k
>energy. If so, I wonder if they have awakenings or are just naturally
>in tune with it already. ANd what about plants?
>-E

Animals of all kinds are waiting for us to wake up these dormant
capacities we have. They are very patient, and have suffered along the
way. Yet I know that the four-leggeds that have shared my life all
helped me to evolve into a person for whom the term love applies to all
unconditionally. Oh, I still have my attachments to certain things (ask
me about the tom turkey sometime), and I still kill mosquitoes, but I
also know that an animal's willingness to open their heart and share
energy with us is an incredible validation. Our understanding of the
word One will shift as we accept the grace to value the natural gifts
from the unmanhandled environments. And it will all stem from love.
that's what I know. When we come to respect the innate intelligence of
all the living species here to procreate (in the greatest sense of the
word) and take care of themselves in their habitat, then will we begin
to see the integration of all the fine details meld into the
conglomeration of one energy. great love and light to you, Guy and
Katrina

ps: if they can't have k on their own, and we're not saying they can't,
they sure do like to get close to it! We understand that they share,
and a decided mutual respect results. Or perhaps they have been sharing
the entire time before, we were just too dim to get it. Most go into a
trancelike state when we put our hands on them. And they respond with
love back, even the most defeated individuals can make a big shift once
they allow themselves to surrender to it (as we have to in order to
share). We are often given the opportunity to bridge the gaps we grew
up with in terms of hearing, respecting, and learning from our animals.
It's simply up to us to reach out just a little beyond those old belief
systems.

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Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 22:31:47 -0400
From: "Rick Puravs" <ric51ATnospamgeorge.lhi.net>
To: "Hudson Jackson II" <hjackson2ATnospamhotmail.com>, <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Energy Fluctuations
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-----Original Message-----
From: Hudson Jackson II <hjackson2ATnospamhotmail.com>
Date: Friday, September 04, 1998 6:38 PM
Subject: Re: Energy Fluctuations

>Anyways, I spent the next half hour
>whispering obscenities vigorously at (Mary) Magdalene (the
>representation of the "mate" you speak of). . . basically telling her to
>go away, and not to bother me again - I've already had enough with my
>body "rebelling".

(Rick)
Make love to this Magdalene woman......remember hell knows no fury like a woman scorned.

>My response: "It's not what's she's done, it's what she failed to. It's
>the things that she's been told to do, and never did; the things she's
>been told *not* to do, and did anyway. She never stood up for me, she
>never once cared about what I think, nor does she ever consider the fact
>that I have feelings. All she does is block everything I plan to do,
>she gets in the way all the time, and she does things without my
>consent. I don't want her here anymore. She's just another witch. . ."

(Rick)
Geez......maybe if you two would talk more, and maybe find things you can agree upon, and then move forward on a basis of mutual consent, then things
wouldn't be so rough. Anyway, she sounds kind of cute to me.

>The last few days, she was slightly easier to get along with. She told
>me my stomach problems were the result of her (and the power of
>kundalini) cleaning it of unhealthy stuff - which may explain why
>medicine for the most part has no effect on me anymore. I found myself
>eating a lot less this week than in previous weeks, and my stomach
>settles. Last night I had popcorn, some fried chicken, not much to do
>harm, and this is the rude awakening I get in the morning
>But the last straw is that I'm dealing with an unsympathetic figure.
>
>As soon as I said what I said, I decided to abstain from eating. The
>idea was to wait for my stomach to settle. I had pretzels late today.
>No problem. So I gradually go back to normal diet now. And I don't
>hear from her either, although there's that pull down there somewhere. .

(Rick)
Pretzels, popcorn, and fried chiken......i think you should find out if this Magdalene woman can cook......what works for me when my stomach goes
all to hell is a return to simplicity such as brown rice and beans

soak 2/5th of a cup of beans overnight.......i prefer adzuki beans or black beans,
but any kind of beans will do.....i've used everything from navy beans to soybeans
.......ok.....boil 2 cups of water, add 1/4 teaspoon of sea salt, 4/5th of a cup of
brown rice, and the beans (in that order)........then simmer for 45 minutes (do not
stir)........eat this, drink water or herbal tea........if you want, eat a few of those
pre-washed ready to eat baby carrots or something similar......put what's left in
the fridge and heat it back up.....a day or two on this seems to work for all kinds of stomach and intestinal problems, k-related or not

>I can't totally give up a part of me to my own detriment. I'm simply
>not ready. There's going to balance with me - and it can only be
>achieved through what I'm doing now. As soon as I'm satisfied that my
>wishes are really being heard by the power within, then and only then
>will I ever think about surrender.

(Rick)
Yaa, but that's not really surrender.......there's mirrors of mirrors here.....so what
do you think......this Magdalene is sort of like the "I Dream of Jeanie" genie in
a bottle, "yes master", and all that.....you can only be the master when your
attention is completely removed from your ego......and you can only do that by
merging with Magdalene

>Balance, not one-sided-ness, is the key. Just like man and woman should
>be equal (more or less) on this earth, so both masculine and feminine
>"aspects" be equal within.
>
>
>
>- Hudson
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 22:58:55 -0400
From: Barbara Alexander <nickynoodleATnospamnetrax.net>
To: "kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Thanks
Message-ID: <35F1FA6E.1501615BATnospamnetrax.net>

 I can say that the past year has been what I now label the year from
hell. It has not all been bad but the type of stress has been horrible.
My husband had a minor stroke. On daughter inlaw found out that she was
preganant only to find out that she also had cancer. The other daughter
inlaw was carrying twins. They were born prematurely. Bailey lived and
Morgan died. Bailey was born in Jan. and did not come home from the
hospital until April. Her Mom was also in the hospital for months. My
oldest sons marriage almost fell apart from the strain. Spent hours on
the phone talking through it. The baby was born okay and her mother is
now free from cancer. Their marriage also made it. My mother decide to
try and sue all three of her daughters. Nothing came of it but the
stress was pretty heavy. I probably don't need to contiue it just goes
on and on. Things tend to turn out okay but when children and
grandchildren are involved it is very hard to not react to their
suffering. I am still very fortunate. I have five grandchildren now an
they are wonderful.
  I have just started doing some simple yoga. When I was young I work
with yoga for awhile.
I have been doing some meditation but I'm not very regular with it. I
have been doing a lot of reading ...looking for answers.
  One thing that I did find from this year is a sort of quiet space
within where I can rest my spirit a bit.
    Thanks for your advice.
barb
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 22:13:10 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.org>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: something odd, kinda rambling.
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with me thats normal :).

Last winter i ran into a person who when i first met him had a palpable
energy field. i dont see auras too well but sometimes i can sense.

i dont know if my energy is dormant or what. My zen master and this person
both said about me "you have a LOT of energy about you". Now how can they
see this and i am basically in the dark about it?

My friend balanced my field for me. he nearly put me to sleep doing it all
the time muttering about how much "power and ability" i *should* have.

i tend to pour my energies into my mediation, and when i am out of
meditation, habit tends to take over. This past year has been one of ups
and downs and crashes. I've gotten sick, been stressed out, pushed myself
to extremes (thats actually pretty normal), and all the while the main
differenced i've noticed is i tend to snap back to center sooner. Thats
cool with me, but i dont get what my friend was getting at.

All i can do is pray for people i feel. thats a lot imo. or send 'white
light' rays in my mind at them. or green....i like green :)

right now i do not feel well. my allergies are really making me sick this
year. it doesnt help that i keep eating dairy products and letting myself
run raggedly down. (i really cant tolerate dairy...or onions,strong foods,
and greasy foods)

i got into a funk when my teacher was in Nepal and i was here out of
contact. i just got really lonely until i figured out a few things. (like
doing my sadhanas right!)

right now i want to go into a cave and figure out what to do with a heart
center that is making me cry when i eat dinner for those without food. its
great that i can cry like this, but sometimes the saddness is a little
strong and i just get depressed. i dont understand how people like my
teacher and Swami Chatananda are smiling. if i smile, its Rinpoche
smiling because Janpa is pretty much scared and sad right now and really
wanting to *rest!*

thanks for reading the ramble,

--janpa
Date: 6 Sep 98 04:14:35 +0000
From: "Paul" <paulwestATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Thanks
Message-Id: <OUT-35F20C2B.MD-1.0.paulwestATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>

Nicky,

> I can say that the past year has been what I now label the year from
> hell.

I am in some ways sorry to hear of your struggles but in another way I
am drawn not to be. You assist in raising a difficult subject, of
wether it is right to become involved in an experience of other
people's lives or wether one should be strictly detatched at all
times. Emotional involvement is something that I know is very hard to
break away from. When you have somebody you love, like you have
children I am sure you feel protective and that you do not wish them
to come to harm so in some ways you influence their lives. But then
this is not detatched. It is a big question, trying to figure out for
oneself the validity of the two approaches. In some ways I want to
offer my sympathies to you and often I find that this is my more
preffered approach, but in another way I find myself thinking that you
are over-involved and resisting becoming aware of that involvement.
For what it is worth, I wish you well and I hope that your life
doesn't throw too much at you at once.

--
Paul.

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Date: 6 Sep 98 04:25:24 +0000
From: "Paul" <paulwestATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: scooby dooby doo...
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Angelique,

Have you dissapeared in a puff os smoke? You're quiet lately. Have you
enlightened?

--
Paul.

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Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 23:37:13 EDT
From: MoonrisempATnospamaol.com
To: dorf01ATnospammail.win.org, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: something odd, kinda rambling.
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Janpa,

Why don't you just rest for a while and see what happens. One of my biggest
lessons that I have had to learn this year is to just BE. I still feel like I
should be doing something constructive all of the time. I had a real hard time
with that. It is easier to just rest and not worry about anything and know it
will all work out.

I hope this helps and I am sending some Reiki energy to you and asking your
angels to comfort and guide you. We forget they are there and that they need
our permission to help us!

Barbara
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 23:56:54 -0400
From: "Rick Puravs" <ric51ATnospamgeorge.lhi.net>
To: "Marybeth Gottshall" <kmgATnospamtaconic.net>
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Subject: Re: Energy Fluctuations
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-----Original Message-----
From: Marybeth Gottshall <kmgATnospamtaconic.net>
Date: Friday, September 04, 1998 7:33 AM
Subject: Re: Energy Fluctuations

>>After a series of increasingly romantic and spiritual dreams about the
>>beautiful young man who has always been my inner guide, I was, in a dream,
>> given Shaktipat by this inner guide (although at that time I had never heard
>> the word Shaktipat.) Shortly after that, I had a powerful dream of an inner
>>marriage and of sexual consummation with a darker, but not evil, version of
>>this dream guide.

(Rick)
My K awakening has taken on a variety of forms, and the forms seem to be in
transition. My spiritual orientation is very much in line with what you (Marybeth)described in your post, and even reading your post seemed to have an effect
on me, so i'm writing this. I received Shaktipat on 8-17-97, though my K may
have been awake even before then. Since then the K has been working steadily
in changing the circumstances of my life, and recently has started to manifest
in physical symptoms, similar to those as have been described by many on this list.
I have 2 other gurus besides the one i received Shaktipat from, and i also worship Vajrayogini who manifests as an inner guru who represents my more
feminine side, as well as in dreams where i recognize her even though she comes to me in different forms, and in the outside world where she is alive in
all women, and can come to me directly through the form of my lover.
Over the past month or two there have been increasing physical symptoms, which i didn't have much of over most of the year after receiving Shaktipat.

This is from a letter i wrote to a dear friend of mine on this past Monday (8-31)
while i was having these sort of symptoms.....

*Lick my brain at your own risk, it may be toxic. I don't seem to be able to
*recover from today (but i did get a lot done) and really don't feel well. I am
*wondering if i am
*getting now the nasty sort of side effects that people get from kundalini. It
*sort of
*feels like i'm burning up, but that may not be the case. Earlier when i
*touched my
*body it seemed so hot, but i wasn't sure if it wasn't because my hands were
*cold.
*My hands did seem cold. Now my hands seem hot and my body seems to be *cooler.
*When i talked to you earlier everything hurt. Well maybe not everything....my
*fingertips for instance didn't hurt...but the joints in my fingers hurt....but
*only some
*of them....my heart hurt, my lungs hurt, my stomach and hips and spine
*hurt....but
*sort of a feverish burning hurt.....breathing hurt, having my eyes open hurt,
*and having
*them closed hurt......i just figured i was tired and had overextended myself
*at work
*to finnish up August.......as i talked to you i rested my head on the table
*from time
*to time.......and you seemed to me to be coming from another world and the
*things you said to me hurt......i layed down and my sinuses throbbed in beat
*with my heart
*.......sort of a fluish feeling.....and if i shut my eyes there seemed to be a
*black hole
*there and all the other hallucinations would rush down the drain.....close to
*8pm i
*went up to the Subway and got a sub.......it was hard driving there but i knew
*if i
*didn't go that i wouldn't eat anything at all......still i had to struggle
*with it after eating
*as it was hard to breathe and for a while i felt like throwing up......but i
*managed to
*keep the food down and got the breathing back together.......but i still hurt
*real bad,
*sort of a physical fluish pain......and a hallucinatory feverish quality to
*things, so i
*can't even be sure that i can rely on my own thoughts.......so don't pay too
*much
*attention to anything i say......another thing i noticed is if my nose runs or
*my eyes
*water that i have to wipe it off my skin pretty fast as it feels kind of
*acidic or something and feels like it's burning my skin........and there's
*still the cough and
*now there's that zapping feeling so i'm really a mess
*did seem to start yesterday before going to the store with Joe and my
*mom.....there
*was a feverish burning aching sensation in the lower part of my spine
*(tailbone/sacrum area) and i took 2 ibuprofin before going to the
*store.....then it seemed pretty much ok until i came home from work and then
*it seemed my whole body felt like that........also sad and
*depressed.....taking a breath at a time, sort of
*lost in the day......tomorrow is another day.......i have to just take one
*breath at a
*time and remember to set the alarm

Another thing about last Monday night was that i encountered an intense sadness from a large group of people which i took to be some sort of imminent
premonition of some sort of disaster that was going to happen.....i tried to see
what it was, but when i did this....i was hit with such intense waves of sadness
that it was pretty much overwhelming....i thought that there would be either some
act of terrorism or an earthquake or volcano that would cause grief for a large
number of people.....there was a feeling about the United States and Europe,
and when i tried to focus on the United States i got the feeling that it would be
"overseas", so i figured Europe.....i really couldn't get much because whenever
i tried to look at it the waves of sadness would overwhelm me......then late on
Wednesday night (after midnight actually) came the news about SwissAir 111
and i thought maybe this was what i had felt.....then on Thursday morning when
i got up and turned on the news, there was a picture of boats searching for bodies and debris, and that same exact feeling of grief and sadness from
what seemed like multitudes of people swept over me

So today (Saturday, 9-5) i'm getting the same sort of feverish aching in my joints
and lower spine, my body is becoming hot, and i seem to be going down again
......i've saved this thread until now because of Angelique's long post at the start
of it, waiting for the time to have enough attention for it, so i read that post and then come to yours......and as i read the part below.....

>>Two nights after the consummation, I awoke in the night to a rocking bed, the
>>sound and feeling of a hurricane going through my body, fiery heat and
>>violently pulsing Root and Genital Chakras (concepts that I did not know at
>>that time.) I was absolutely terrified and feared that I had brought some evil
>>upon myself, or that I was being possessed. I put my trust in God, and
>>eventually the storm abated. I got up and was afraid to go back to bed, and
>>wandered around my house. A voice came into my head and said "Kundalini."

>>
>>The following night the inner guide was back in my dreams, rocking me in his
>>arms and telling me that he would be sure that I was alright.
>>
>>Since that night I have had lucid dreams, voices of guidance, OBE's, haave
>>awakened to the sound of my inner guide singing love songs to me, have gone
>>into a humming, vibrating bliss, been launched into space in the night, felt
>> currents of energy from the soles of my feet to dizzying spirals in my head.
>>I have read books about Kundalini, Christian Gnosticism and mysticism, Sufism,
>>Tibetan Buddhism, Yoga, Tantric sexuality, Theosphy and Anthroposophy..... I
>>immediately quit smoking and drinking, changed my diet, lost 35 lbs. and
>>started meditating. I've been to see two Gurus, received Shaktipat, studied
>>Tibetan Buddhist meditation, and Kripalu and Kundalini Yoga. Obviously, a
>>period of a little over a year has not been enough time to get too far into
>>any one of these things.

(Rick)
.......i am already resigned to undergoing all these symptoms, as i feel them
already present and becoming stronger.....but as i read this i get these rushes
in my chest area and back that feel good and are fairly intense......and then i
notice that the joint aches are pretty much gone, though i'm still experiencing a
lot of heat, but over the next hour or so, the heat also dissipates.....it's like a
blockage has been removed somewhere, or something......and what you are
writing about here is not really a revelation to me, but a restating in your terms
of experiences and beliefs i already have......i think it has much to do with attention......reading your narrative draws my attention to things i already know
at some level, and that releases the energy which had been becoming pent up

Mudita,
 Rick

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