1998/09/05 17:18
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #633
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 633
Today's Topics:
re: meditation [ "Paul" <paulwestATnospamstationone.demon.c ]
Re: full moon [ MoonrisempATnospamaol.com ]
Re: more on unrequited love [ nancy <nancyATnospamwtp.net> ]
Re: gurus [ onarresATnospaminreach.com ]
Re: archives [ onarresATnospaminreach.com ]
Re: gurus [ onarresATnospaminreach.com ]
Re: Ice [ "guy johnson" <tantriciskATnospamhotmail.c ]
Re: gurus [ "guy johnson" <tantriciskATnospamhotmail.c ]
Re: more on unrequited love [ v <vcooperATnospameagle.ptialaska.net> ]
Help! [ Barbara Alexander <nickynoodleATnospamnetr ]
Intro [ "Glenny" <wdreamsATnospamtcis.net> ]
your coaches' opinions [ "b bah" <happyhunaATnospamhotmail.com> ]
your coaches' opinions [ "b bah" <happyhunaATnospamhotmail.com> ]
Date: 5 Sep 98 19:46:45 +0000
From: "Paul" <paulwestATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: re: meditation
Message-Id: <OUT-35F18B0D.MD-1.0.paulwestATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
Thomas R,
> Im not to farmilar with the idea or state of medatation. i suffer
> from a disorder called social anxiety.
You and I are in the same boat. Perhaps we can share the oars.
> it is a condition where you question your identity, your not sure
> who you are. I use to meditate when i was about 5 to 12 years old.
> at that time i was immature and i didnt know exactly what i was
> doing. well, somewhere along those years i developed another person
> inside of me. i didnt want to be "different" from the other kids. I
> didnt want them to joke on me all the time, so i created a more
> reserve and shy Thomas. I later discovered that this thomas was less
> open to attacks and i wasnt hurt as easily. Later in my life i went
> away to college and met new people. i found myself acting less shy,
> more intellectual, and more outgoing. One of the main problems of
> this disorder i have is, you behave how others expect you to behave,
> and that is what i have been doing the last 7 years of my life.
You took these words right out of my mouth so that's not really a
quoted passage.
> yself look good and that everybody was equal. i was in the
> medatating state for about three hours. it was one of the greatest
> feelings i have ever felt in my life.
Sometimes, but rarely, I enter a similar clarity. It truly is like
waking up, and finding yourself you wonder who the hell you ever were
before.
> my question is, is it normal to meditate without complete
> concentration or silence.
I understand your question. I would ask a similar thing myself because
to many extents I am fond of a peace that has the /appearance/ of
peace. I find that sitting alone in the dark with the lights out and
door shut immediately puts me into a `more spiritual' frame of mind
whereas artificial lights and people being busy and noisy bothers me.
But despite this I try to `be meditative' in everyday situations and
it's there that the main healing takes place. I think there are a
number of ways in which illusion comes very close to reality, in that
the /appearance/ of the reality is very convincing as if to be the
real thing. Sometimes I take those shortcuts and then it turns into
the real thing, sometimes. Being able to look at the television in the
right way, being able to be with other people in the right way, being
able to work in the right way, is quite a difficulty but the areas
that you see real worth in your efforts.
> it seemed like i couldnt break out of the
> state.
Perhaps there was a selflessness there so there was no `self' to break
out, and no `out' to break out into.
> i was walking around downtown, talking to my friends, and
> watching tv while in the medating stage. I just want to know if
> this is normal, because my knowledge of medation is very limited.
> thank you, Thomas
This is normal. Meditation where you just sit down on your own and go
someplace is in a way selfish and many people view meditation as only
something you do at those time. Then you get up and resort to your old
self, in time. But the whole of life is meditation. It is not
something you can start or stop. Even while you're `not meditating',
you are, but you just aren't doing it very well. When you decide to
make an effort with it it's usually then that you think you are
starting. There are many things that everybody does that is taken for
granted, and this includes yourself, just things like walking and
picking things up and turning your head. Sometimes these are
considered `other' to the spiritual effort, like little technicalities
or mundane necessities, but they are worthy of attention also.
Personally I do not sit down to meditate in specific sessions like a
lot of people do. I believe it is contradictory, and that if you start
out with the wrong intentions, even if you aim to transform those
intentions along the way, you are still putting some fragmentation
into the flow of life. To me the whole of everything is meditation.
Eating chocolate, sleeping, the trees that blow in the wind, cars on a
road, a mountain, ants building a nest, whatever it is it is all the
great meditation, the only meditation. How `well' you do it determines
your ability to accept peace. It's funny but people spend a lot of
time trying to accept things that are unacceptable as if accepting the
most acceptable thing - peace - is the hardest of all.
I can relate directly with your social phobia. I have always had it.
I have not been diagnosed as having it by anyone but I know that I do.
It is not a thing, seperate. It's me. I have become progressively
mediumistic over the years , although at the same time in another way
I also seem to be becoming increasingly less so. It is kind of like
the thing is maturing and at the same time this is the hastening of
its demise - like the certainty that you are uncertain. I do not
normally have that which is so much mine that I would defend it with
all my heart and soul. That thing is yourself. I have never been
especially self-aware and most of the time I do not even experience
myself as an individual, or that I am the source of myself. It is
funny but being self-aware seems to be precicely that - that you seem
to receive as input everything that you output. So there is always the
knowing and clear perception that it comes from you as its source,
absolutely as the giver and the receiver. But this is rarely my
experience. Only now and then do I ever seem to wake up, for no reason
at all, in amongst the continuum of my everyday chaos. A person can
have so much more self esteem and confidence and certainty when they
are aware of themself as being the source of everything. Most of the
time I am vague and offensive and harsh and all sorts of not very nice
things. Maybe you can relate to this or maybe you are not so far gone.
I don't know how old you are but you talk of your earlier years as if
they were recent so I am guessing you might be of similar age. I am
approximately 23 at the moment.
You know what your sister said regarding your phophesy. It is true. I
have a certain prophetic ability of my own. Strangely I have always
thought that the word pathetic sounded similar for more than one
reason. From what you have said so far I feel that I am in your shoes.
There is a kind of peace that comes about when two people are mutual
in their insanities. Lots of married couples have similar fascial and
bodily features. This is because it is easier for there to be peace
when there is less difference. I am not sure but maybe the world will
become a place where people end up practically marrying themselves
through sheer inability to love those who are different. Do you ever
read between the lines? I do it all the time.
I was having some trouble with an aggressie person who rondevou'd with
me occasionally on my way home and I felt somewhat intimidated. And
this to him is a way in which I am being offensive to him. I assert
that the way that I am is right and the way that he is is not. People
take offense to that even subconsciously. So he would start directing
his aggression at me rather than sharing it. I hated that, which made
it worse. On one occasion I was in a different mood, a little worked
up myself. He began playing up so I sort of played up as well. He
vented his angers at various things and I pretended that I was doing
the same. I would not normally do this as on a greater level I know
that it is somewhat violent behaviour. But what I found is that he did
not once direct his anger at me. I seemed to be immune, invisible to
his attitude because I was right there inside it, rather than as
someone other, someone different, someone that is offensive to him. It
was therefore a peaceful journey home and something of a breakthrough.
It is possible therefore that true peace transcends all frameworks of
what is good behaviour and what is not, although I still fundamentally
believe in a gentler attitude because that is my personality. His
personality is more of an agressive, violent attitude. Neither of
these are entirely righteous.
It is no so much the personality but the likelyhood of comparing
oneself with others - of there being judgement. I don't know if you've
looked but when people start to lose their grip they search, with
their eyes, to test your integrity, to assess if you are different,
because what they truly long for is the peace that has been lost. So
they have become dependent on you and if you are different they will
take that as offense. You don't even have to act towards them, it can
simply be that you `look like a victim'. But if, when they have lost
their grip, you retain your own peace, it prevents the person from
using your appearance as an easy way to degrade themselves and
yourself. Either you do this by becoming like them or you find a
transcendental peace that has more love and perspective than the other
person, and in being somewhat helpless to know why they will just find
themselves warming to you like a log in water preventing their
drowning.
Even when people become lost and evil they are still crying out for
the greatest love that they all deserve. Sometimes, when the person is
lost, and this could be yourself also, every part of reality starts to
be interpreted by a film, veil, sheet, or wall of hell-goo, which is
probably green in colour and quite noisy (rattling chains etc). So it
would even appear that an enlightened person is also something you
must hate. But this is not the case, in my experience, because even in
states of loss and confusion it always seemed that God was still
completely clear to me. And I think ultimately this is actually true.
Simply, true self cannot be covered up. Walls are build /around/ it
but never is the light fully hidden. A person who stands in peace
bypasses every effort to judge their appearance, as that person is
experienced in consciousness where perception is experience not just a
visual thing. You find it ignites in the heart a blissful joy that
demonstrates the contrast of the cloud of self-confusion that makes
everything look so downtrodden. There is an absence of self in that
person that makes one ask so deeply and without answer, "who /are/
you?", that the only question that bursts forth is as if from their
own very lips. So in the end the only thing that is every truly
attacked is the attack itself. The identity that identifies with its
identity. The deception that deceives itself, like a cancer that could
be plucked out or a root that could be dug free.
It is as I was saying before, that if you are involved in the
/appearance/ of peace and spirituality it seems easier to be closer to
peace, except that in a way it is an avoidance. The meditation you
spoke of that occurs during everyday life is, therefore, totally
normal. I think you need reassurance because even though you have been
in that beautiful attitude you are still unsure about its truth, still
not quite able to accept it. I can really relate to that very deeply.
Sometimes I become beautiful but still have the most intense doubts
and cautions. I bet you have a strong sense of justice as I do - that
you have to be absolutely sure that something is justified, and are
sensitive to the injustices brought upon you by others. In the end the
greatest justice of all is to realise that the way that you are is the
way that you /are/.
--
Paul.
IRC: #amiga, Dalnet: #blitz
WWW: http://www.stationone.demon.co.uk
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Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 14:50:56 EDT
From: MoonrisempATnospamaol.com
To: vcooperATnospameagle.ptialaska.net, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: full moon
Message-ID: <a928a181.35f18810ATnospamaol.com>
Val,
The moon is in Pisces and we are getting a little break from all the fire
energies! A lot of intense energy lately with a lot of Kfire for me. Woke up
this morn at 2 am on fire again. Still burning out and cleansing. Feels more
gentle though than the last few days.
B.
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 13:17:18 -0600
From: nancy <nancyATnospamwtp.net>
To: Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in>,
kundalini-1 <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: more on unrequited love
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Anurag Goel wrote:
> Yes , we need to love as we can but wat's wrong in going further on the
> path of unconditional love.
Nothing! I think as we love as we can, we open ourselves up more and more to
love. Love is our origin, our path and our destination.
Nancy
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 12:37:04 -0700
From: onarresATnospaminreach.com
To: Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in>
Cc: hlutharATnospambryant.edu, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: gurus
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Anurag,
You missed the entire question -
>> dor: This is obviously the next question that comes to my mind... Why
does one need a guru?
>
Anurag: Hasn't this been answered by Harsha? Guru won't leave u unless u
have realised God. It doesn't matter how much life times u take he/she will
be there with u always and looking after u.
dor: I am not speaking of the higher/inner self as a guru, I am asking
about a physical guru... and I ask you again... why does one need a
(physical) guru?
dor: What happens when one has an awakened K, but does not have a guru?
Anurag: One thought is that is the K fully awakenend. I was thinking
earlier one day after K has been fully awakened does there remain something
to be known. I think the aura measurement posted by Cosmic Energy do
suggest that one has to go still further even after k has been fully
awakenend.
dor: Again, if a person is K awakened but has not reached the fully
awakened state, without a (physical) guru... and what benefits does a
physical guru provide? Why do some people find it necessary to search for a
(physical) guru? Can't one be awakened and in a state of continuous
advancement, without that physical guru?
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 12:45:53 -0700
From: onarresATnospaminreach.com
To: "frans" <fransATnospamtelebyte.nl>, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: archives
Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980905124553.006e701cATnospammail.inreach.com>
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Frans,
I took a look at the site, bookmarked and will go back when time allows... I remember some of those posts from when I joined the list. Yes, history is right - information that will serve to answer a lot of question being asked today from the new members..
Thanks so much, I appreciate all your hard work and the work of percyvale putting it all together.
blessings dor
At 08:20 PM 9/5/98 +100, frans wrote:
>Hello folks, i have been playing with some archives, making them accessible. If someone would want to have a look:
>http://www.keijser.com/frans
>
>I have put there the first 100 digest of our list... history!!! Frans
>
>
>
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 12:48:44 -0700
From: onarresATnospaminreach.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Cc: <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: gurus
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Larry,
Thank you very much for the response... the Brotherhood has helped me in
the past by sending me someone they were sure would be recognized... from
the inner vision, I saw and knew what he said was true.
I think you've reached the core of the issue -
blessings dor
At 01:43 PM 9/5/98 -0300, Larry Schmitz wrote:
>Dear fellow Klisters:
>
>Subject: Re: gurus
>you wrote:
>>> And then; What happens when one has an awakened K, but does not have a
guru?
>>>
>I thought that I was having problem with spiritual guide (internal
guru)...I asked the Great White Brotherhood to send a Guide....my request
was answered...one needs to be very careful to have Guide who is "from the
light".
>
>Larry Schmitz
>
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 14:15:33 PDT
From: "guy johnson" <tantriciskATnospamhotmail.com>
To: nancyATnospamwtp.net, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Ice
Message-ID: <19980905211533.14729.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
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Quite so! It's the feeling that is the ultimate challenge (if we've
been shut down, especially so) and then, once we get the hang of
feeling, we are faced with detaching from our very find (the emotions),
and allowing them to pass! It is most definitely a conundrum while we
are in this piece of the process, and yet becomes so obvious once we
sort it all out, and decide to remain in the place of broader vision.
Much love to you, and thanks for your validation. katrina
>guy johnson wrote:
>
>> Hey: have to mention that the cube of ice is probably directly
related
>> to k in that your recent experience of the dualism of nice, pleasant
>> face underscored by anger, frustration and darkness is symbolically
>> representing the opposite of fire, or k.
>
>I had a similar thought. Ice could mean that the fluid movement is
frozen.
>I think this represents frozen feelings and emotions.
>
>Seems like some prefer to intellectualize emotions rather than feeling
>them. When we do that, we're stuck. I've concluded that expressing our
>emotions can serve as a gateway to opening our heart and feeling those
>around us.
>
>Nancy
>
>
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Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 14:54:50 PDT
From: "guy johnson" <tantriciskATnospamhotmail.com>
To: onarresATnospaminreach.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: gurus
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Can't one be awakened and in a state of continuous
>advancement, without that physical guru?
Well, yeah. Guy and I were both raised in situations where spirituality
was a dirty, unacceptable place to go (anything other than the family
dictates were frowned upon.) thus, with no guidance from another
guru-ish person, but certainly a deep connection to the natural world
and animals in particular, we were guided to k energy, and could only
validate the experiences by integrating them into our daily lives... for
truly, once she is awakened, K is rather relentless. We simply made it
an unspoken part of our experiences, and I certainly never brought it up
except with those who were very close; the certainty of non-acceptance
was too big. So also, we both can relate rather intensely with Zarko's
personality quirk. I've been called a chamelion more than once, and it
was always an ability I considered a strength, until I became depleted
energetically to such a degree (bad marriage, workaholic, depressed)
that it became apparent that there was no me to pull me out of my
situation. No voice. No will. It was a terrifying time, and, two
years later, I am finding that my self is still shaky at times, but I at
least have an understanding of the energy that supplies all I need to
grow and love. And the knowledge that it really is enough. Thanks for
bringing this up. Great light and love to you, katrina
ps: I'm certain Guy will respond to the perpetual meditation issue as
sson as he returns from teaching his daughter to play tennis.
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Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 14:10:03 -0800
From: v <vcooperATnospameagle.ptialaska.net>
To: DruoutATnospamaol.com
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: more on unrequited love
Message-ID: <35F1B6A9.35E3ATnospameagle.ptialaska.net>
yeah! if we can manage to tap into *the Source* from whatever roundabout
path, & the take control with repeated awareness & mental discipline
towards that *detachment*, or Divine Nonchalance even, & not feed the
pin-head mental ego anxieties that come with the thwarted expectations &
supressed desires, maybe it can be a blessing in disguise anyway.
Eventually it's got to get as easy & consistent as riding a bicycle with
repeated concentration & repetition, eventually it might be just that
much easier to accept & love everyone in the whole world
unconditionally! Clearing out the channels for that process to occur, so
that light might shine unimpeded by personal ego dross that needs
healing anyway, not just another person to make one self feel better at
whatever cost & as a means to avoid the whole issues that require
healing. I could go do that very easy! It's the REAL thing that
palpitates the heartstrings & induces chemicals that one can really work
with for clearing out the crap!
vc
DruoutATnospamaol.com wrote:
>
> In a message dated 98-09-05 13:00:33 EDT, you write:
>
> << Being thankful for the very fact of love at all, >>
>
> Dear Valerie,
>
> Thanks for this! What's interesting is the freedom and blissful joy this
> allows. No expectations--therefore no anxiety. no fear. It's a part of
> acceptance and contentment with what *is*.
>
> Love, Hillary
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Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 19:53:32 -0400
From: Barbara Alexander <nickynoodleATnospamnetrax.net>
To: "kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Help!
Message-ID: <35F1CEFB.D2E889E0ATnospamnetrax.net>
The past week went really well. I've started doing basic yoga
stretches and seemed like I was getting a handle on the pain problem.
It never goes away, but some weeks are better than others.
I've always been a little strange but at 49 years of age I'm beginning
to accept that I'll never be "normal' and that's okay because the price
of it for me is too high.
I've. been told that my artwork has genius, that I have healing in my
hands, that i attract negativity and that i am wise. As fare as the art
is concerned I'm not sure where that stands. The healing in the hands
could have some merit. At times I've been aware of it. Attracting
negativity could also have merit. Wisdom i see as something that flows
through us and we can make no personal claim to it.
I overload on sensory stimuli and i can't seem to shut it out, at
least not consistently. I've tried the imaginary shield thing but for
me that requires a lot of focus and gets very tiring after awhile. Its
almost like i absorb other peoples pain, fear, grief...... and this can
be a total stranger in a store or on the street. I was thinking about
what someone mentioned about being responsible for our reactions and I
do agree with that. although I think that this battle is more difficult
than taking responsibility for our actions. Obviously i am reacting, but
frequently I have no personal involvement with the source of the pain or
fear... so I don't think that there is ego involvement.
Usually I'm aware of it after it occurs.
The pain is getting worse and the nausea is starting. If it continues
at this rate, blood vessels will pop. This has happened in the past.
My heart feels like it is in the iron grip of a burning claw. The back
of my neck feels like someone poured battery acid on it. At times the
following the top skin flakes off. My hands and toes are cramping. I
don't go out much anymore because I never know what to expect and even
small excursions can be exhausting.
The side of my face feels like it has a thousand burning spikes in it.
If the pain subsides tonight tomorrow I will be totally exhausted.
I feel like crying. I don't need to be normal but I'd like to
survive this.
I've babbled enough. To those who would read this, thank you for
listening.
barb
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 20:05:12 -0400
From: "Glenny" <wdreamsATnospamtcis.net>
To: <nickynoodleATnospamnetrax.net>, <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Intro
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HI everyone! I have not joined this list but am not share what Kundalini
really is. I have heard it mentioned by others..
Could someone tell me a little about it or direct me to a site where I can
read about it.
Thanks
/Glenny
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in Butler, Pennsylvania
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-----Original Message-----
From: Barbara Alexander <nickynoodleATnospamnetrax.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Date: Saturday, September 05, 1998 8:38 PM
Subject: Help!
> The past week went really well. I've started doing basic yoga
>stretches and seemed like I was getting a handle on the pain problem.
>It never goes away, but some weeks are better than others.
> I've always been a little strange but at 49 years of age I'm beginning
>to accept that I'll never be "normal' and that's okay because the price
>of it for me is too high.
> I've. been told that my artwork has genius, that I have healing in my
>hands, that i attract negativity and that i am wise. As fare as the art
>is concerned I'm not sure where that stands. The healing in the hands
>could have some merit. At times I've been aware of it. Attracting
>negativity could also have merit. Wisdom i see as something that flows
>through us and we can make no personal claim to it.
> I overload on sensory stimuli and i can't seem to shut it out, at
>least not consistently. I've tried the imaginary shield thing but for
>me that requires a lot of focus and gets very tiring after awhile. Its
>almost like i absorb other peoples pain, fear, grief...... and this can
>be a total stranger in a store or on the street. I was thinking about
>what someone mentioned about being responsible for our reactions and I
>do agree with that. although I think that this battle is more difficult
>than taking responsibility for our actions. Obviously i am reacting, but
>frequently I have no personal involvement with the source of the pain or
>fear... so I don't think that there is ego involvement.
>Usually I'm aware of it after it occurs.
> The pain is getting worse and the nausea is starting. If it continues
>at this rate, blood vessels will pop. This has happened in the past.
>My heart feels like it is in the iron grip of a burning claw. The back
>of my neck feels like someone poured battery acid on it. At times the
>following the top skin flakes off. My hands and toes are cramping. I
>don't go out much anymore because I never know what to expect and even
>small excursions can be exhausting.
>The side of my face feels like it has a thousand burning spikes in it.
> If the pain subsides tonight tomorrow I will be totally exhausted.
> I feel like crying. I don't need to be normal but I'd like to
>survive this.
> I've babbled enough. To those who would read this, thank you for
>listening.
> barb
>
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 17:14:23 PDT
From: "b bah" <happyhunaATnospamhotmail.com>
To: WEIVODAATnospamaol.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: your coaches' opinions
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Dear Kristin,
Obviously physically you're much better.
Listen to your coaches' advise and opinions. Betcha they have more
years' collective accumulated experience than you( with similar injuries
either to themselves, freinds, associates, students,) etc.
Sometimes teachers, coaches know more about us and our abilities than
we do. Probably being more objective, than we are about ourselves helps.
And again more experience.
Let some of your coaches' objectivity and confidence in your ability
"rub off" on you.
Just like football jocks, before a game vizualise slaughtering the
opposeing team, you visualize being in the lead in your races.
'm rooting for you, girl!!! barb
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Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 17:14:21 PDT
From: "b bah" <happyhunaATnospamhotmail.com>
To: WEIVODAATnospamaol.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: your coaches' opinions
Message-ID: <19980906001421.21446.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain
Dear Kristin,
Obviously physically you're much better.
Listen to your coaches' advise and opinions. Betcha they have more
years' collective accumulated experience than you( with similar injuries
either to themselves, freinds, associates, students,) etc.
Sometimes teachers, coaches know more about us and our abilities than
we do. Probably being more objective, than we are about ourselves helps.
And again more experience.
Let some of your coaches' objectivity and confidence in your ability
"rub off" on you.
Just like football jocks, before a game vizualise slaughtering the
opposeing team, you visualize being in the lead in your races.
'm rooting for you, girl!!! barb
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