1998/09/01 08:19
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #620
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 620
Today's Topics:
Re: warning: negative vibes [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
Re: Energy Fluctuations [ Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iis ]
Fwd: SAD =( (fwd) [ Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iis ]
Re: Loving and Being Love [ UweJohannATnospamaol.com ]
Re: warning: negative vibes [ Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamhempseed.co ]
Re: warning: negative vibes [ Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamhempseed.co ]
Re: K experience? or......what? [ Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iis ]
Re: Energy Fluctuations [ nancy <nancyATnospamwtp.net> ]
Re: Energy Fluctuations [ "guy johnson" <tantriciskATnospamhotmail.c ]
Re: warning: negative vibes [ Marybeth Gottshall <kmgATnospamtaconic.net ]
Re: warning: negative vibes [ Matija Papec <mpapecATnospamjagor.srce.hr> ]
bennies of no-alcohol [ melintonATnospamsbc.edu ]
Re: Drinking and K [ GISLENNEATnospamaol.com ]
Words [ "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.or ]
background [ "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.or ]
Re: warning: negative vibes [ nancy <nancyATnospamwtp.net> ]
a something [ "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.or ]
Re: Drinking and K [ GISLENNEATnospamaol.com ]
Re: warning: negative vibes [ Orea <oreaATnospamerols.com> ]
Re: warning: negative vibes [ ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com ]
Re: warning: negative vibes [ ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com ]
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 23:59:51 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: Matija Papec <mpapecATnospamjagor.srce.hr>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: warning: negative vibes
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At 04:07 AM 01/09/98 +0200, Matija Papec wrote:
>> The way back was made easier by the realisation that the true spiritual
>> guru had always been within and still was; he was never Danijel.
>Do you think about inner guru? That is a term that is often used and
>lightly taken by some New age ideas. I'm not saying it is something wrong
>with that, but inner guru is voice of God and IMHO, one should be completely
>transparent for His will, meaning that only saints and Avatars have
>such guru. :)
>--
Really? Who told you that?
The inner Guru speaks to most of those awakened, in my experience.... it
is the voice of the heart.. an important stage of awakening. Where else
would Love speak from??
Anyone can learn to listen to it.. you can awaken yours at the website,
below.
God is not so elitist, you know, as to only enjoy the conversation of
Saints.. I have been graced to wake the voice in drug addicts, aids
patients, perverts, college students, ... all kinds of folks.
Or, perhaps they are all Saints.. I shouldn't be surprised. :)
The grounding visualization for awakening Kundalini is at
http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent/ground.htm
Please visit this page when you have 20 minutes to relax
and do the meditation, as the page is "charged" with Shakti
and keyed to be released by your free will choice to visit the page.
Blessings, Mystress.
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 13:58:42 +0530 (IST)
From: Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in>
To: nancy <nancyATnospamwtp.net>
cc: kundalini-1 <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Energy Fluctuations
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Hi
when i was having my kundalini awakening. Every time i used to sit down to
study Kundalini would rise to throat level. i felt as if i was grasping
things more quickly than earlier. Yes , it is said that when Vishhudha
Chakra awakens the knowledge in this world directly comes to one.
Particularly one will excel in one's field of work/study.
Kalidasa became a great writer/poem when his Gurudev awakenend his
VISHUDDHA CHAKRA.
Love,
anurag
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 13:41:34 +0530 (IST)
From: Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in>
To: Kundalini Mailing List <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Fwd: SAD =( (fwd)
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Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 05:24:50 EDT
From: UweJohannATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Loving and Being Love
Message-ID: <c84c6234.35ebbd62ATnospamaol.com>
<<<Harsha: Living life, Meditation and the awakening of Kundalini Shakti may
bring
up things from the unconscious which may take some time to integrate at the
conscious level. So we are bound to experience pain and suffering from time to
time. Sometimes it may be intense and difficult to bear. >>>
Last week on monday I woke up early in the morning, after a sleeples
weekend, vibrations started to go throu my body. A strange feeling of realy,
realy evil was present and was drawing up my legs. I woke up complete and the
name of the most evil i can imagine remains in my mind. I was shocked. The
vibration stoped and I was afraid.
I started the day with my meditation than breakfast. Always cold shudder
ran down my spine and up of my legs. During the day, I was distracted enough,
so I didn't think about the experience in the morning. In the evening,
brushing my teeth, and standing in front of the mirror, the could shudder came
up my legs again. Now I was calm, and tryed to imagine the ugliest monster of
the world was there, and it is like me, part of it all, so this being is god,
like we all. My heart began to open, as wide as posible, I embrased the being
with my heart and gave it all my love.
In this moment I started to weep. I think this evil being was nothing than
my own fears. Days later, when I try to remember to the fear or evil feeling,
there was nothing than peace and love.
Love and light
Uwe
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 13:02:32 +0200
From: Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamhempseed.com>
To: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>,
Matija Papec <mpapecATnospamjagor.srce.hr>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: warning: negative vibes
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At 23:59 1998.08.31 -0700, Mystress Angelique Serpent wrote:
>At 04:07 AM 01/09/98 +0200, Matija Papec wrote:
>>> The way back was made easier by the realisation that the true spiritual
>>> guru had always been within and still was; he was never Danijel.
>
>>Do you think about inner guru? That is a term that is often used and
>>lightly taken by some New age ideas. I'm not saying it is something wrong
>>with that, but inner guru is voice of God and IMHO, one should be completely
>>transparent for His will, meaning that only saints and Avatars have
>>such guru. :)
>>--
> Really? Who told you that?
> The inner Guru speaks to most of those awakened, in my experience.... it
>is the voice of the heart.. an important stage of awakening. Where else
>would Love speak from??
> Anyone can learn to listen to it.. you can awaken yours at the website,
>below.
> God is not so elitist, you know, as to only enjoy the conversation of
>Saints.. I have been graced to wake the voice in drug addicts, aids
>patients, perverts, college students, ... all kinds of folks.
> Or, perhaps they are all Saints.. I shouldn't be surprised. :)
:)))
God speaks to everyone. Unfortunately, so do the other sources, and to most
people it might be difficult to figure out the signal from the noise. I've
read a wonderful story once... about a guy who invented a radio telescope.
He used it to pick up the radiation of the galactic center - when the local
sawmill or something wasn't working. You see, the center of the galaxy is
much stronger, but the mill is much closer. ;) I figure that was the
essence of what Matija has said. You've got to be pretty well cleaned up in
order to get the voice straight.
There is the inner guru... I sure know, coz I've been studdying with him,
but when I come to a crossroads, I really would give an arm and a leg for a
signal amplifier (read: incarnate guru). :)
-----
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Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 13:00:25 +0200
From: Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamhempseed.com>
To: fredaann2ATnospamjuno.com (freda ann)
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com, annfisherATnospamstic.net, splackoATnospamkr.tel.hr,
mpapecATnospamjagor.srce.hr, dklepacATnospamjagor.srce.hr
Subject: Re: warning: negative vibes
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At 16:24 1998.08.31 -0700, freda ann wrote:
>>What a fantastic creation we have here...
>>The most interesting thing is, it has nothing to do with the reality.
>
>Really, daniel, do you think you are able to choose others *realities*
>for them? If indeed you do, then what was said in the post you are
>speaking of may just be right on target!!!
Choose realities? Well, the pure logic would suggest that there is reality
and there is non-reality, reality is what is and non-reality is what is
not. What Ann and Angelique say is not, it doesn't match the facts and
therefore is a non-reality. Simple, no big phillosophical issues in it.
I've been thinking about getting some of my friends to delurk and start
writing here for some time now, and this seems to be as good an opportunity
as any. It is not that I need a defense from something - personally I just
smile to that stuff, ignore, and write something worth writing. This
situation is no different, and I really think that Sasa, Matija, Domchi and
others have much to offer to the list; Felix wants to join, too, but his
English isn't good enough for writing so we have to figure out a way to
translate his texts in a way that will leave the original meaning unharmed.
>I am amazed.
>What in the world does this quarrel have to do with the rest of us....
>a woman writes her feelings.... HER feelings...
>uses the name Daniel, could have been anyone....
No, it couldn't, sorry.
>Whoops... guess not...
>THE daniel decides to break into Defensive mode now everyone has to play
>the game?
Well, you figured wrong. You see, I have much better things to do with my
time than to respond to every bit of negative stuff that someone said about
me. My motivations here were a bit different.
>I wonder how many others besides myself on this list had no idea you were
>THE daniel of the post ?
It is because you don't pay attention.
>Angelique has harmed no - one, 'cept maybe your ego?
>however she and ANY one else walks the path is not for you to beleive or
>disbelieve.... that is for THEM to decide...
>why would you care how or who or what works for this woman any longer?
>obviously you/she.. your advice... whatever ..wasn't cutting it any
>longer,,,,,
:)) Well, what is obvious to you, might prove to be the obvious nonsense,
at one point... You see, this is not the first time that a student of mine
went against me, it happened before on the same, identical pattern... And I
find it very amusing to know the final result in advance. At one point they
figure out what I was showing them, snap out of the rebellion, and the guys
who used their problems to fuel their frustrations about me, well, they
find themselves in a very unfavorable situation. That is why I'm really
having a nice time watching what Angelique is doing, I am patient enough to
wait for it all to blow off... it might take months or even years, but I
have enough time. Having _that_ in mind, guess again why did I bring this
up. It is irrelevant! Pure trivia, not worth the time to respond. What
matters is that there are people on this list who might represent some
alternative views, that might easily question some perspectives that are
usualy taken for granted here. And that is something that I really find
worth the fuss.
>Is this the reason for you *calling out* Angelique recently?
:)) Very interesting. I have a different perspective on that...
I am IGNORING her. The woman is frustrated, unbalanced, her spiritual
achievements are questionable, as are her motives, and the sincerity of
what she writes. She displayed a viciously aggressive, violent side of her
personality more than once, and she behaves like a bull that's been feeding
on marijuana. There are other people here who try to sell their
questionable views as the undisputable, one-and-only right view of the
universe. Well, I intend to introduce different perspectives. I have been
thinking about writing a rather big message about my observations about
prana, astral, mental, buddhic, atmic and paranirvanic levels, the role of
Kundalini, its behavior and other things that people here might find to be
interesting. My friends can add their own observations to what I write,
since it is a very tangible reality to all of them. For instance, I'll be
meeting Sasa in a couple of hours and we'll be out in a forest or some
similar place, where we will work on those things directly. I am sure that
you all will find his report to be very interesting...
>I personally have found some of your posts, well, unbalanced of late....
>which surprised me as I had in the past found you to be a fairly reliable
>source, down to earth so to speak..... your hostility has been
>evident....
MY hostility? ;))) Oh most kind, understanding, non-hostile, gentle friend,
please forgive me, but you are talking about yourself...
-----
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Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/1377
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 13:10:55 +0530 (IST)
From: Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in>
To: freda ann <fredaann2ATnospamjuno.com>
cc: oreaATnospamerols.com, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: K experience? or......what?
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I have read one or two real life stories which go excatly the way u
experienced. But there the girl was shocked to his boyfriend in the
middle of the night in her house. :-)
Love,
Anurag
>
> Hello, Good Afternoon,
> Recently my boyfriend of 6years headed for parts unknown,,,, long
> story,,,, he's back now...
> while he was away I had the beautiful experience of his *visiting* me
> while I slept,,, one night I realized I was dangling between dreaming and
> waking while he was next to me... very slowly I reached to touch him and
> felt him there, then I slowly opened my eyes not wanting to disturb the
> occurance and chase him away,, I was very, very careful not to disturb
> him...
> I could not see anything but the space he should have been was hot to the
> touch and I just laid my hand there until the sheet cooled down...
> he has no recollection of this....
> the poop head. : )
> freda
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 05:50:49 -0600
From: nancy <nancyATnospamwtp.net>
To: kundalini-1 <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Energy Fluctuations
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Kat wrote:
> >I don't know if anyone else has had this experience, but here's what it
> >feels like. I am picking up knowledge that I really haven't earned the
> >right to know.
>
> If you have gained
> knowledge you have earned it. Perhaps not in this life time but you have
> earned them. Perhaps from a past life time.
Well, I don't know how in the world I could have learned about database
script writing for web sites during another lifetime! [chuckle] And believe
me, I sure haven't earned the knowledge!
Paul wrote:
> I have always had a tendency to access an
> information pool that was just there, not something I had created
> myself or something I had aquired but just using it from within likea tool
> and I always knew how to.
That's what I mean, Paul. It's something I'm accessing that's not part of my
own brain's limited intellectual capacity. It's information from a broader
source. I wonder if this is the skill that genius' develop.
Anurag Goel wrote:
> Yes , it is said that when Vishhudha
> Chakra awakens the knowledge in this world directly comes to one.
> Particularly one will excel in one's field of work/study.
Pardon my ignorance, but what is the vishudha chakra? Is that third eye or
crown?
tg wrote:
> hey luv.... when you are in the flow, you are in the flow!
Yes! That's what it feels like!
Thanks, all for the perspectives. Helps put other words to the experience. I
appreciate you all.
Nancy
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 05:02:10 PDT
From: "guy johnson" <tantriciskATnospamhotmail.com>
To: paulwestATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Energy Fluctuations
Message-ID: <19980901120211.1850.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
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My understanding is that all species have a consciousness, and that the
accumulated knowledge of all beings is available if the veil of
separateness is dropped. This is one of the practical benefits of
accessing "knowing" in the large, "one community" sense of the word. The
availability of this information is, in essence, the inner guru we all
speak of. Any and all seekers who are able to clear their mind of
beliefs and judgements have full access.
with love, Guy ps: congrats on the self love. It only gets better.
Paul wrote:
I know how to ask and it is received but I
>have absolutely no idea as to `why' things are the way it is said that
>they are, it's like an information without the need for explaination.
>Just comes, right there, answers the question straight away, even
>before it's been asked sometimes.
I was actually kind to myself
>earlier today. :~)
>
>--
>Paul.
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Date: Tue, 1 Sep 98 08:00:12 -0400
From: Marybeth Gottshall <kmgATnospamtaconic.net>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
cc: <DanijelTurina.dturinaATnospamhempseed.com>
Subject: Re: warning: negative vibes
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Sheesh! I feel like I stumbled onto a dog fight or a barroom brawl.
Self-proclaimed Guru smashing people over the head with beer bottles and
yelling "I'm rubber, you're glue! Everything you say bounces off of me
and sticks back onto you!"
Is this the kundalini list?
Love and peace be with you all,
MB
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 15:17:05 +0200
From: Matija Papec <mpapecATnospamjagor.srce.hr>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: warning: negative vibes
Message-ID: <35EBF3D1.3E77ATnospamjagor.srce.hr>
Mystress Angelique Serpent wrote:
Hello Angelique!
> >lightly taken by some New age ideas. I'm not saying it is something wrong
> >with that, but inner guru is voice of God and IMHO, one should be completely
> >transparent for His will, meaning that only saints and Avatars have
> >such guru. :)
> >--
> Really? Who told you that?
> The inner Guru speaks to most of those awakened, in my experience.... it
> is the voice of the heart.. an important stage of awakening. Where else
Yes, you're right, but also I have seen many K. awakened people seeking for
advice on this list, people with their questions and doubts.. maybe is
inner guru just hiding somewhere. ;)
> would Love speak from??
> Anyone can learn to listen to it.. you can awaken yours at the website,
> below.
Thank you for your generous advice. :)
> God is not so elitist, you know, as to only enjoy the conversation of
> Saints.. I have been graced to wake the voice in drug addicts, aids
;)) I didn't say that, how did you come to such conclusion? :) I'm saying
that one have to be purified enough to listen to inner voice.
> patients, perverts, college students, ... all kinds of folks.
> Or, perhaps they are all Saints.. I shouldn't be surprised. :)
;))))
--
emajl: mpapecATnospampublic.srce.hr
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 09:26:21 -0400
From: melintonATnospamsbc.edu
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: bennies of no-alcohol
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Nancy wrote:
The other wonderful development is that the stuff I do know, comes to me
quickly. I had to develop a plan in 15 minutes this morning. Usually, I
would set aside a couple of hours. It was done, no problem. My writing is
also flowing. I come up with an idea and the organization seems so obvious
and the words just flow. Very cool.
signalfire writes:
I've been off alcohol since May and its amazing how my awareness has
cleared. I've had a lot of spontaneous insights that never occured to me
before. I've got more energy which also led to me starting work on several
projects that were just in the idea stage early this year. Also, my
clairvoyance has increased dramatically. I just "know" things very strongly
and my remote viewing is clearer.
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 09:38:32 EDT
From: GISLENNEATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Drinking and K
Message-ID: <431374b8.35ebf8d8ATnospamaol.com>
hi Nancy
I know what you mean about the drinking and K. also about the eating
certain foods and K!! I can't even drink milk anymore, I get nauseas everytime
I even think about food that doesn't agree wth me.
Lately i have been soo sensitive to everything. My husband had asked me if i
would like to go out for a couple of drinks this Friday, I thought about it
but then all of a sudden i had this feeling of terrible fear rise up in me and
the thought came to me that i was too sensitve to drink, I felt as though it
was going to cause me MORE pain and confusion...weird huh!!
Love Gis
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 08:44:07 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.org>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
cc: kundalini-l-dATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Words
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In a word,
Vibration
colour
light
sound
players off of
atoms
energy
will
deep down,
at the base
there is no base
for words.
by the shore,
waves come
waves go
words speak,
they are heard
no
more.
it can be said,
if the base
of fuck
and om mani padme hung
is the same
changeless,
then it begs
the question,
which is the
mantra,
which is
the defiled?
what rises
reaches
dances
the webs of life
on each vibration?
stay
centered
basecamp
in the
eye
of the
hurricane.
silly
silly
words!
--janpa
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 08:51:20 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.org>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: background
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reached back,
far back,
into the blaze of
summer blue.
hard to see where one
is going
on a lazy afternoon.
sunhazed air
and pregnant green
show off
in blue, red
and yellow
you stood by,
tears in eyes,
bloodstained
clothing,
where was i?
that i could not
end before
it started
this horrible
summerday?
i can never
forget you,
even when
we met again
under cold skies,
winterfreeze blue
and diamond sun.
tundrabrown,
our clothes
bright gold...
the man who
wore red stars
who forced us
to leave.
so why am i now
fearful,
i have met you again,
in the springtime,
babyblue sky and
crystal sunlight.
i cant help it but
to cry....
karma is a
cruel mistress
when she
forces the issue...
--janpa
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 07:59:42 -0600
From: nancy <nancyATnospamwtp.net>
To: "kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>,
Matija Papec <mpapecATnospamjagor.srce.hr>
Subject: Re: warning: negative vibes
Message-ID: <35EBFDCE.BB91E7B2ATnospamwtp.net>
Matija Papec wrote:
> Yes, you're right, but also I have seen many K. awakened people seeking for
> advice on this list, people with their questions and doubts.. maybe is
> inner guru just hiding somewhere. ;)
> ....
> I'm saying
> that one have to be purified enough to listen to inner voice.
You become "purified" (whatever that means) by listening to the inner voice.
Purified is such a ridiculous concept anyway. We are all pure and perfect. We
forget who we are, that's all. I'm not some hidious wretch. I am all that is. We
all are. But we doubt and manifest confusion, troubled thoughts, fear.
It's during our times of doubt we may need support. Sometimes, when you experience
the results of spiritual awakening, you can think you are going crazy. You have
suggested that a wise guru is the place to turn. I don't have a problem with that
if it's your choice. Others find the salvation they need through organized
religion. Many here have found support through the k-list.
Even thoough your words seem nice and conciliatory in your message, I find
hostility oozing. Your winks and grins don't hide this.
Nancy
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 09:02:23 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.org>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: a something
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shhh....you can leave now :).
still now if you'd like. if not, the music is always playing, dancing is
good too.
can you see something? there, inside/outside...a weblattice of rainbow
light rays.
Notice how each colour is pretty pure and resonant?
lightbeams coalesce together and spin tightly. tighter closer
a single grain of sand it appears held in the hand.
a diamond of potential and life.
may you be filled with happiness and its causes,
be free of suffering and its causes
be joined to the causes of true happiness
be free of the causes of suffering
be free of dualistic ideas and aversion/grasping not holding some close
and others afar.
that was all.
grain expands back into the universe :) have fun now :)
be well :)
--janpa on an inspired note.
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 10:04:57 EDT
From: GISLENNEATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Drinking and K
Message-ID: <2fdeac77.35ebff09ATnospamaol.com>>
Hi all
Just reading all the mail on K and drinking, it is all quite true, i have
been noticing that when I take the Mucomyst for my asthma it makes me more
sick, my Dr. gave me pills for depression and i took one about a yr ago and it
made me sooo sick and made me feel asthough I was in another world. This
lasted for 2 days!!!
all the meds my Dr. has given me does the same thing, I can't take them,
they have the opposite effect on me.
So this means that all that is going on in me is the Kundalini and the meds
won't help!!
No wonder!! I thought once again that
i was a weirdo and that meds didn't work with me.
It feels good now to know that I don't need meds, nothing is wrong with me.
Its all Kundalini.
Love u all.gis
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 10:10:09 -0400
From: Orea <oreaATnospamerols.com>
To: Marybeth Gottshall <kmgATnospamtaconic.net>
Cc: Kundalini l list <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: warning: negative vibes
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>Sheesh! I feel like I stumbled onto a dog fight or a barroom brawl.
>Self-proclaimed Guru smashing people over the head with beer bottles and
>yelling "I'm rubber, you're glue! Everything you say bounces off of me
>and sticks back onto you!"
>
>Is this the kundalini list?
>
>Love and peace be with you all,
>MB
I think you put it all into perspective in grand style!!!! <still chuckling>
I haven't heard that childhood saying for eons....it's a whole lot deeper
than I ever realized!
Love,
Orea
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 10:11:44 EDT
From: ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com
To: dturinaATnospamhempseed.com, fredaann2ATnospamjuno.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com, annfisherATnospamstic.net, splackoATnospamkr.tel.hr,
mpapecATnospamjagor.srce.hr, dklepacATnospamjagor.srce.hr
Subject: Re: warning: negative vibes
Message-ID: <404baa0.35ec00a0ATnospamaol.com>
In a message dated 9/1/98 8:02:59 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
dturinaATnospamhempseed.com writes to freda:
<< MY hostility? ;))) Oh most kind, understanding, non-hostile, gentle friend,
please forgive me, but you are talking about yourself...
I feel as if I'm in a maze of mirrors here! aggggghhhhhhhh
Who cares what the mirror says or looks like? It is a distorted view. How
does one see the correct True Perception?
Love,
xxxtg
* Boycott shampoo! Demand the REAL poo! *
http://members.aol.com/Teeegeee/tgsplace.html
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 10:20:04 EDT
From: ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com
To: kmgATnospamtaconic.net
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: warning: negative vibes
Message-ID: <c72f702e.35ec0294ATnospamaol.com>
In a message dated 9/1/98 8:30:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time, kmgATnospamtaconic.net
writes:
< Sheesh! I feel like I stumbled onto a dog fight or a barroom brawl.
Self-proclaimed Guru smashing people over the head with beer bottles and
yelling "I'm rubber, you're glue! Everything you say bounces off of me
and sticks back onto you!"
Is this the kundalini list?>
LOL! Good post! enjoy the show... these action parts can be really exciting
and don't come around too often...
(you'll begin to notice that the list is like the kundalini - it rises and
falls, ebbs and flows, loves and fears, blisses and its opposite (whatever
that is...) )
Sit back, relax, enjoy the show, and throw popcorn at the screen whenever you
feel like it!
Much Love,
xxxtg
* Heaven is *down there* when it comes to concert and sports seating *
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