1998/08/31 19:11
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #617
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 617
Today's Topics:
Re: warning: negative vibes [ raptor <splackoATnospamkr.tel.hr> ]
Re: warning: negative vibes [ raptor <splackoATnospamkr.tel.hr> ]
Re: Anybody have some extra evil? [ "Hudson Jackson II" <hjackson2ATnospamhotm ]
Re: warning: negative vibes [ fredaann2ATnospamjuno.com (freda ann) ]
Physical Changes and K [ "Sharon Webb" <shawebbATnospamyhc.edu> ]
Re: FW: Fwd: FW: FW: Let's all go!! [ "Hudson Jackson II" <hjackson2ATnospamhotm ]
Re: warning: negative vibes [ "Paul" <paulwestATnospamstationone.demon.c ]
Re:Re: Anybody have some extra evil? [ geoffrey33ATnospamjuno.com ]
Re: warning: negative vibes [ raptor <splackoATnospamkr.tel.hr> ]
Re: warning: negative vibes [ raptor <splackoATnospamkr.tel.hr> ]
??? [ Maureen Heffernan <morlightATnospammhonlin ]
Re: warning: negative vibes [ nancy <nancyATnospamwtp.net> ]
Re: Physical Changes and K [ "Pure Heart" <pure_heartATnospamhotmail.co ]
Energy Fluctuations [ flute <FluteATnospamcreate.org> ]
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 01:00:05 +0200
From: raptor <splackoATnospamkr.tel.hr>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Cc: Dharma <annfisherATnospamstic.net>
Subject: Re: warning: negative vibes
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Here I go.. :>>
Anyway, since this is my first post here in public, perhaps it'd be good
if I introduced myself.. however, I don't feel like writing long
introductory letters about me, so I'll keep it VERY short. ;)
My name is Sasa Placko (don't get confused about that raptor part:)), I'm
from Croatia, and I'm Danijel's student.
I've been lurking this list for what.. a year and a half now, I'd say, and
been doing yoga a year now, and serious work for what.. it'll be six monhts
now, using Danijel's technique. The results? Ask me if you are interested.
;)) :>>
Oh yes, I'm seventeen. ;))) :>> Now suprise me and talk to me like you
would to a child. :)) :>>> ;>
At 09:26 PM 8/31/98 +0200, Danijel Turina wrote:
>At 01:13 1998.08.31 -0500, Ann Morrison Fisher wrote:
>>The way back was made easier by the realization that the true spiritual
>>guru had always been within and still was; he was never Danijel. Angelique
>>sent love and healing; she repaired a frayed power chakra and told me how
>>to fry the cords to Danijel and reclaim my power. Some problems puzzled
>>me; Angelique found they were the result of booby traps planted in my mind
>>by hypnotic suggestion. She used the same power for good and told my
>>internal guide to remove all suggestions. He found so many that he has
>>been removing them gradually, and the process is still going on.
>>
>>Danijel is just too young and inexperienced and has too many problems of
>>his own to function as a guru. I ask all list members to send him K-fired
>>love; he needs it.
>
>What a fantastic creation we have here...
Yes, we do, don't we? :(
>The most interesting thing is, it has nothing to do with the reality.
Very true. Ann, I am sorry, as I told you, all this time I've always been
nice to you, I liked and loved you and still do very much, and I will
continue to do so no matter what happens - and the same goes, I'd bet my
head on it, for Danijel. You don't know the motivation behind Danijel, and
as you've sometimes said to me - age doesn't matter. What matters is the
background of a person, not the 'educational' background but spiritual
background, the stuff we bring with us when we incarnate onto this Earth.
When it manifests, it doesn't stop and goes as high as it can go. If one is
high enough to take others with oneself, those who wish to go up, go up,
and those who claim to wish and try going up, then fail, must blame it on
somebody and go on a different track, again.
>Seeking Angelique's advice on dharma and reclaiming power, come on. :)))
A comment here.. I'd say that claiming power is something that shouldn't
really be done.. you know. Claiming power is magic. A person is an
instrument for God to manifest through, when something is needed it is
available, and when it is used when it's not needed, for the sake of
oneself, well..
>Hypnotic suggestions? The woman who claims to be a natural born hypnotist
>told you that? The one who uses hypnosis on her slaves to produce results?
>It gets more and more interesting. Spirit guides, shamanic stuff... and
>dharma? That puzzles me, since I would say that what you experienced was
:) That puzzles me all the time. When I spoke to Ann in mail and told her
my oppinion on the stuff she is doing now,
the first reaction was (I am sorry Ann, I don't want to hurt you, but it
was so) that I am now trying to destroy her weekend with Mystress at the
lake.. :(( Now that's an idea..
>basically astral roleplaying, dream within a dream within a dream. Sasa, I
Oh, yes, unfortunatly it is so. :( I wish I could say it isn't, but what
is, is.
>would really love if you commented this, since you talked to Ann for an
>extensive period of time... I wouldn't want such statements to be made here
Yes, I am replying. Maybe it doesn't sound so good, don't know, I've been
tired this whole day and I'm in some kind of altered state of conciousness
right now, K is blazing all over my crown and ajna, weird man.. :))
I'll be better tomorrow. :)))
>without proper analysis, since it portrays me in a very... unfavorable,
>that's the word... light. Like, I have nothing better to do but hypnotise
And an untrue light, if I might add.
>poor helpless victims out of ignorance and spiritual illness, needing
>healing from the list? My god. :( I have been reading this list for two
Bullshit.
>years or so, and it indeed has been a healing experience, and I learned so
>much, but I really don't think that a false image of me needs to be created
>in order to be "healed". I would find that to be a pretty... unnatural?...
:) How can a false image be cured, and when cure is not needed, it is not
good. :)
>thing. Many of my friends, people who know me personally - we go out for a
>walk or a cup of hot chocholate - are here on the list; Sasa Placko, Matija
:) Yes. :)
>Papec, Bozo Juretic, and others I guess (Zoran, are you subscribed?;), and
:)
>I really am not afraid of a real-life test of what I'm all about. Those
There is nothing to be feared. :) You know what you are about. :)
>people can probably provide a picture of me that might differ from the
>caricature you have created. Oh yes, I probably hypnotised them too...
:))) Abracadabra, hokus-pokus.. keep your eyes on the clock.. :)))))))))
>>Tomorrow morning I leave to visit Angelique. Intuition tells her that
>>realization is coming at a retreat next weekend, and I want to be there.
>
>So I have heard. I disbelieve it, but I hope she has fun under the masks.
:) You know she will. :)
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Latah!
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 01:00:47 +0200
From: raptor <splackoATnospamkr.tel.hr>
To: Dharma <annfisherATnospamstic.net>, amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: warning: negative vibes
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>>So far I have danced and sang away some of the pain... at the top of my
>>lungs and stamping my feet... some of it refuses to melt....
>
>Sending you the hand positions for clearing emotions. Up-stream kriya will
>help, too, if you can do that. But nothing will get rid of all the pain
>while the situation is on-going.
>
>>I remember
>>going through similar stuff around my love relationships... finally
>>resolved that when I was 33 years old! Will this work crap take until I'm
>>66? Well, social security may kick in then.... and the problem will resolve
>>itself...
>
>I know what you're going through, it's happened to me. What can I tell
>you? There's light at the end of the tunnel. But you know that. It's
>just so damn hard getting there again.
:) There is also a light at the start of the tunnel, if going the wrong
way. ;)
>For a little while, the naive woman I was last winter forgot my inward
Were you naive? Was it 'naive' or was it something else? ;)
>guidance. She put her trust in a young guru who said they were one spirit
>in two bodies, meant to come together again. She became his lover, then
As far as that goes, since when did you start do disagree with that??
>his "spiritual wife," then his student. Danijel began to ask for complete
>devotion and surrender, said it was necessary to work with her as a guru.
Of course it is. The glass must be emptied to be re-filled.
>She didn't understand that meant surrendering even her unconscious to his
>direction. He said he was her spiritual guru too, working with her in her
:) What happens in one's unconscious is mostly formed by one's own desires.
>K. meditations, and she believed it. When she was completely under his
>sway, he withdrew from her and began a pattern of consistent and vicious
>verbal emotional and mental abuse. Finally she collapsed under constant
>battering, and the personality went into a break-down; he went off to India
>to see his guru, Sai Baba.
The whole story doesn't go like that. You've left the bad parts about
Danijel inside, and kept anything that would make you look anything else
then a victim out.
>The way back was made easier by the realization that the true spiritual
>guru had always been within and still was; he was never Danijel. Angelique
>sent love and healing; she repaired a frayed power chakra and told me how
>to fry the cords to Danijel and reclaim my power. Some problems puzzled
Reclaim power.. sounds ugly. ;)
>me; Angelique found they were the result of booby traps planted in my mind
>by hypnotic suggestion. She used the same power for good and told my
By what?? Now this is pure shit. Hypnotic suggestion made by Danijel, I
presume? You've never told me any of this in mail, and I think I know why
now - you're closing again.. creating the walls around you, and replacing
bits of reality with a astral movie created for yourself to look good in.
Sounds like lightwork crap.
>internal guide to remove all suggestions. He found so many that he has
>been removing them gradually, and the process is still going on.
:)
>Danijel is just too young and inexperienced and has too many problems of
>his own to function as a guru. I ask all list members to send him K-fired
Unimportant. Danijel was _never_ wrong when it came to something critical.
When a big decision had to be made, he made it, and it was always the right
one. As I said, the methods Danijel uses aren't pleasent all the time (I've
had a bashing or two - but that bashing or two was enough for me to realise
what was going on, and no more bashing was neccessary), it can be painful
sometimes, but not once has Danijel made a mistake with any of his other
students, or with me, when it was critical. You are now working against a
statement that you made me when we first started to talk in mail - age
doesn't matter. That is true. In this spheres, age doesn't matter, what
matters is the spiritual background one brings into this incarnation with
oneself. When the time comes, all that was brought becomes available and
starts to manifest.
The point is, and now I will tell you something I didn't want to break
with you, I mean - I like you and love you very much, but you are _wrong_.
Dead wrong about a lot of things.
If Danijel makes a mistake, it will be on the mental level, an explanation
created for something with a purpose that may turn out wrong. But that's
not what matters. What matters is, when situation gets rough, he is a
person you can always rely on to help you out. If you want help. Getting
out may be bad for one's ego, but after you are out and look and observe,
learn later, you can notice the things that were done so roughly weren't
rough - they had to be done. It was a necessity.
>love; he needs it.
:) K-fired love.. how nice. More astral. :)) Geez. :)
Jus' don' nobody ever send me K-fired love, or prayers or something like
that, pleezzz.. ;)) :>>
>Tomorrow morning I leave to visit Angelique. Intuition tells her that
>realization is coming at a retreat next weekend, and I want to be there.
My intuition tells me that it's all a lot of astral and no substance.
>Now it turns out there'll be a ritual, and she will play Persephone -
>carried off by Death himself. She's preparing to die. But there's life
>after death - Persephone returns to the earth.
Beautiful. ;)) I'd like to hear what happened there.
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Latah!
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 16:13:59 PDT
From: "Hudson Jackson II" <hjackson2ATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Anybody have some extra evil?
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>If anybody has found any evil, please contain it in some thing as I
>really would like to see some. If no one can gather any, I will have
to
>assume it is just some peoples opinions and is not a scientific fact.
Even if I had any, I surely would not give it to you. I wouldn't even
dare touch it. The only exception would be my buddy standing next to
me, Puff the Magic Dragon. Now, you don't want to get him started.
And no one said (yet) it was a scientific fact.
>At this stage there is a high degree of acceptance of everything. It
is
>a place of non-judgement and non-discrimination. Everything is seen as
>one energy in expression. Someone who has reached this level can not
>descend any lower than the buddhic plane. Evil does exit in lower
>planes of consciousness but why keep your focus there? Why look for
>good and evil when you can look for and experience oneness? One of the
>things to transcend on the path is the concept of good and evil. Also
>the idea of I and not I as Jan stated above.
The point I was trying to make earlier, without success, was that evil
was an invented idea. . . a devious concept. But I think we should kill
this thread soon before we get Puff going with that smoke.
>It is much easier to be detached from daily life without the emotional
>overtones of good and evil, right and wrong.
>But hey, if you enjoy the good/evil game, play all you want. K will
>eventually bring an end to that game.
Easiest if everyone else does it, too. We've got to make do with the
situation at hand. Hopefully people will look at us as examples, then
lead themselves to. . . more power (for bettering their lives)!
- Hudson
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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 16:24:58 -0700
From: fredaann2ATnospamjuno.com (freda ann)
To: dturinaATnospamhempseed.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com, annfisherATnospamstic.net, splackoATnospamkr.tel.hr
Subject: Re: warning: negative vibes
Message-ID: <19980831.162459.-186121.0.fredaann2ATnospamjuno.com>
>What a fantastic creation we have here...
>The most interesting thing is, it has nothing to do with the reality.
Really, daniel, do you think you are able to choose others *realities*
for them? If indeed you do, then what was said in the post you are
speaking of may just be right on target!!!
I am amazed.
What in the world does this quarrel have to do with the rest of us....
a woman writes her feelings.... HER feelings...
uses the name Daniel, could have been anyone....
Whoops... guess not...
THE daniel decides to break into Defensive mode now everyone has to play
the game?
I wonder how many others besides myself on this list had no idea you were
THE daniel of the post ?
(you mention others who know you on the list,,,, these would be the
people to whine to)
Is this a place to drag your < lovers????> quarrel....
let it go ....
Angelique has harmed no - one, 'cept maybe your ego?
however she and ANY one else walks the path is not for you to beleive or
disbelieve.... that is for THEM to decide...
why would you care how or who or what works for this woman any longer?
obviously you/she.. your advice... whatever ..wasn't cutting it any
longer,,,,,
Is this the reason for you *calling out* Angelique recently?
I personally have found some of your posts, well, unbalanced of late....
which surprised me as I had in the past found you to be a fairly reliable
source, down to earth so to speak..... your hostility has been
evident....
I am sorry you two have had a falling out....
but I for one don't think we all need to be dragged into this....
freda
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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 19:22:00 -0400
From: "Sharon Webb" <shawebbATnospamyhc.edu>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Physical Changes and K
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Holly wrote:
>If nothing
>else had convinced me, this made me certain that the transformation
>happening to us is real, psychological AND somatic, and definitely not
>under my control. Never in a million years would I have chosen to lose
>my taste for Puligny Montrachet.
Holly...this is fascinating. Since the beginning I have been aware of k's
physical manifestations, but it seems to me that the metabolic chances are
true verification of k's force. I would really like to hear from others on
this list about this.
Sharon
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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 16:32:12 PDT
From: "Hudson Jackson II" <hjackson2ATnospamhotmail.com>
To: jasessionsATnospamartco.zgate.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: FW: Fwd: FW: FW: Let's all go!!
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>OKAY, YES I AM A SUCKER.... BUT WHAT THE HELK... IT ISN'T GOING OT HURT
>ANYTHING.... ROFL.... AND MAYBE JUST MAYBE.... IT COULD HAPPEN....
>FORWARD AND READ THE BOTTOM....
I swear, if I see another chain letter up in here, I'm going to wake up
Puff the Magic Dragon and have him torch the post and return to sender.
With Miss Angelique's blessings, of course. ;-)
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Date: 1 Sep 98 00:37:30 +0000
From: "Paul" <paulwestATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: warning: negative vibes
Message-Id: <OUT-35EB41CA.MD-1.0.paulwestATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
> My name is Sasa Placko (don't get confused about that raptor part:)), I'm
> from Croatia, and I'm Danijel's student.
> I've been lurking this list for what.. a year and a half now, I'd say, and
> been doing yoga a year now, and serious work for what.. it'll be six monhts
> now, using Danijel's technique. The results? Ask me if you are interested.
> ;)) :>>
Hi. So how come you have lurked for so long? You say you are Danijel's
student. A student of what? Is he your teacher or are you his student?
What has promted you to `go public' now, whatever that means?
--
Paul.
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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 19:28:16 -0700
From: geoffrey33ATnospamjuno.com
To: hjackson2ATnospamhotmail.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re:Re: Anybody have some extra evil?
Message-ID: <19980831.192816.3294.4.Geoffrey33ATnospamjuno.com>
>>assume it is just some peoples opinions and is not a scientific fact.
>Even if I had any, I surely would not give it to you. I wouldn't even
>
>dare touch it. The only exception would be my buddy standing next to
>me, Puff the Magic Dragon. Now, you don't want to get him started.
>
>And no one said (yet) it was a scientific fact.
Re:I said this tongue in cheek, not to be taken so literally.
>
>The point I was trying to make earlier, without success, was that evil
>
>was an invented idea. . . a devious concept. But I think we should
>kill
>this thread soon before we get Puff going with that smoke.
Re: That was my point as well, "evil" being a coloring by some people of
reality.
>>It is much easier to be detached from daily life without the
>emotional
>>overtones of good and evil, right and wrong.
>>But hey, if you enjoy the good/evil game, play all you want. K will
>>eventually bring an end to that game.
>
>Easiest if everyone else does it, too. We've got to make do with the
>situation at hand. Hopefully people will look at us as examples, then
>>lead themselves to. . . more power (for bettering their lives)!
>>
>- Hudson
>
Re: My detachment does not depend on what others believe or do, I would
be in sad shape if it did.
Blessings,
Geoffrey
.
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Date: Mon, 01 Sep 1997 01:28:43 +0200
From: raptor <splackoATnospamkr.tel.hr>
To: fredaann2ATnospamjuno.com (freda ann), dturinaATnospamhempseed.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com, annfisherATnospamstic.net
Subject: Re: warning: negative vibes
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At 04:24 PM 8/31/98 -0700, freda ann wrote:
>>What a fantastic creation we have here...
>>The most interesting thing is, it has nothing to do with the reality.
>
>Really, daniel, do you think you are able to choose others *realities*
>for them? If indeed you do, then what was said in the post you are
>speaking of may just be right on target!!!
Why do you allow yourself to get so excited, freda ann? ;))
Nobody is choosing nobodies *realities*. There is just one Reality. The
others are.. well, not real real. Catch my drift? ;)) :>
>I am amazed.
:) Beautiful, isn't it? :)
(I meant, Tubular Bells II, I'm listening to them now as I write this.. :)))
>What in the world does this quarrel have to do with the rest of us....
>a woman writes her feelings.... HER feelings...
:)) Come on, take it easy.. :)
>uses the name Daniel, could have been anyone....
>Whoops... guess not...
>THE daniel decides to break into Defensive mode now everyone has to play
>the game?
"The Daniel" (actually it's spelled Danijel) is the person talked about. :))
>I wonder how many others besides myself on this list had no idea you were
>THE daniel of the post ?
:))
>(you mention others who know you on the list,,,, these would be the
>people to whine to)
>Is this a place to drag your < lovers????> quarrel....
:)))))))
>let it go ....
:)))))))))))))))
>Angelique has harmed no - one, 'cept maybe your ego?
Maybe it's the other way around. :) I've seen some mail exchanges and
tracked emotional states of both parties.. it was.. interesting. :))
>Is this the reason for you *calling out* Angelique recently?
>I personally have found some of your posts, well, unbalanced of late....
:) And this post simply screams of balance. :)
>which surprised me as I had in the past found you to be a fairly reliable
>source, down to earth so to speak..... your hostility has been
>evident....
:))
>I am sorry you two have had a falling out....
>but I for one don't think we all need to be dragged into this....
You're very interesting, freda ann. :) I'd send you a kiss, but I'm afraid
I'd lose a vital organ.. :)))
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Latah!
Date: Mon, 01 Sep 1997 02:31:14 +0200
From: raptor <splackoATnospamkr.tel.hr>
To: "Paul" <paulwestATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: warning: negative vibes
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At 12:37 AM 9/1/98 +0000, Paul wrote:
>> My name is Sasa Placko (don't get confused about that raptor part:)), I'm
>> from Croatia, and I'm Danijel's student.
>> I've been lurking this list for what.. a year and a half now, I'd say, and
>> been doing yoga a year now, and serious work for what.. it'll be six monhts
>> now, using Danijel's technique. The results? Ask me if you are interested.
>> ;)) :>>
>
>Hi. So how come you have lurked for so long? You say you are Danijel's
Hi, Paul. :)
I lurked for so long 'coz I thought I had nothing smart to say. And I will
continue to do so after this
discussion ends, probably. I'm not much of a talker, ya know. ;)
>student. A student of what? Is he your teacher or are you his student?
He is my guru.
>What has promted you to `go public' now, whatever that means?
I saw what Ann was writing so I popped in.. ;)
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Latah!
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 20:53:31 +0000
From: Maureen Heffernan <morlightATnospammhonline.net>
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: ???
Message-ID: <35EB0D4B.1BC69FFDATnospammhonline.net>
Do you ever feel the solid feeling of a person that is not there?
Strange
>question I know but I must ask it.
>
>In L&L & Understanding,
>
>Katharine
Sure! :-)
Orea
Many times.
+ Maureen
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 19:27:22 -0600
From: nancy <nancyATnospamwtp.net>
To: kundalini-1 <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: warning: negative vibes
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freda ann wrote:
> What in the world does this quarrel have to do with the rest of us....
I was wondering the same thing. This little tit-pulling contest isn't the
purpose of this forum. I don't really care if Ann is off to frolic with
Angelique and if others think she is caught up in astral crap. I don't
really care if Danijel is a worthy guru or a misguided idiot.
I welcome you to the list, Sasa Placko. I would be interested in your
experiences, thoughts, feelings as they relate to kundalini.
Nancy
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 18:48:45 PDT
From: "Pure Heart" <pure_heartATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, shawebbATnospamyhc.edu
Subject: Re: Physical Changes and K
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>
>Holly...this is fascinating. Since the beginning I have been aware of
k's
>physical manifestations, but it seems to me that the metabolic chances
are
>true verification of k's force. I would really like to hear from
others on
>this list about this.
On the topic of metabolic changes, the biggest one I've noticed is
that my formerly raging sex drive (I mean I hadn't gone for 2
days since the age of 12 without 'relieving myself') has become
zero. Not reduced. Not supressed. But zero. And I have a fiance
that's very erotic.
Fortunately she understands the deep sacredness of the path
to me, so she says "You'll always have your arms around me
and your warmth" -- gawd, makes me cry to think of her gentleness.
Insofar as why this is, its obvious, that the energy that once
fueled the sex drive is now being used for other things - having
been born with some clairvoyance, I watch Shakti at work, she
is doing all sorts of things inside my body.
On another note, the Mental changes can be as dramatic! Shakti
told me that violent TV programs (even Star Trek --- oh no, not
the holy Start Trek -- wahhh) were not appropriate for me at this
time. I have been switching off the programs that brought meaning
to me when I was 5 years old --- I guess that there is a time
and a place for everything -- the main point here, is that Shakti
is the boss, not us.
-Kevin
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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 21:04:33 -0500
From: flute <FluteATnospamcreate.org>
To: "kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Energy Fluctuations
Message-ID: <35EB5631.51B5ATnospamcreate.org>
Yes.. for whomever asked.. There is something wild with the energy going
on.
I have had more and more people tell me of dreams with Snakes.. Many are
getting super psychic things. There is an energy change of some sort and
I understand its going to be happening again in Sept.
I got a flash of Clinton being blasted/literally. Another had visons of
a mountain blowing up and there being some retailation by the US?
Somewhere on the NorthEast Coastline. Is there a mountain around
there??
--
flute
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through the world and dances in rhythmic measures." R. Tagore
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