1998/08/26 15:26
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #597
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 597
Today's Topics:
MY EXPERIENCES [ F19AshATnospamaol.com ]
the net [ "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.or ]
warning: negative vibes [ amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us ]
Re: Ego [ "Kat" <KcliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca> ]
Re: Boston- Seeking Kundalini teache [ Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com ]
Obedience? [ "Wonderer" <mrtn74aATnospamprodigy.com> ]
re: shaman's comments to "chuc", dit [ b bah <happyhunaATnospamyahoo.com> ]
Regarding the problem of Evil [ "Pure Heart" <pure_heartATnospamhotmail.co ]
Re: warning: negative vibes [ nancy <nancyATnospamwtp.net> ]
Re: Ego [ AfperryATnospamaol.com ]
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 14:48:40 EDT
From: F19AshATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: MY EXPERIENCES
Message-ID: <46e21773.35e4588aATnospamaol.com>
Hello everyone...i am posting this again because people have been asking me
what my experiences have been with kundalini and the supernatural etc. This
is my vision that i received when i was about 13. Plus, recently i have been
experiencing vibes and vibrations that i might have an out of body experience
soon. Plus i am beginning to see the energy that radiates from people's
bodies. I have been able to see this sort of energy before in detecting
things from "a different plane" in the room etc. ok here ya go.....again
I was young, only in eighth grade, studying for finals, when suddenly I began
to think about my religious beliefs and the things taught to me about religion
in school that did not make sense. I had been brought up Catholic since I was
very little and had attended Catholic school for twelve years, hardly knowing
anything about any other religions. A strange feeling came over me that I
needed to get a piece of paper and pencil and write what I thought now were my
true beliefs. Even though I knew I should be studying for finals, I got out
the paper and pencil anyway and began to write. I wrote down pages and pages
of information, hardly stopping for what seemed like only minutes, but
certainly was a couple hours. The words practically wrote themselves down on
the pages. It felt as if the words were directly guided by some force or
guide. Little did I know, those pages would reshape my life like a vision
straight from God. Later, as I became older, I would study other religions
and relate them to what I wrote. Many religions seemed to me to be similar,
yet no one religion was the same as mine. I also changed some of the
information on the pages with the knowledge I gained over the years. This, to
the extent of my knowledge, are my beliefs today, including most of what I
wrote down that day, about ten years ago.
In the beginning God was formed in total nothingness. There was nothing where
our own universe is now, no planets, not even space. God was nothing, not
even a god at all. Then, out of the nothingness came a spark of "light". The
light grew and became what is known as God. This was how God came to be. God
stayed in this nothingness and became "intelligent". God figured out how to
use the nothingness. God found a way to shape it and finally make it grow
into a large space. The reason for being in this emptiness was beginning to
be understood. God began to create more. God created a universe, then
another, and then another, until there were so many God did not know what to
do with them. God decided to create more. God wanted things to live in the
universes. The first thing put in them were suns, great balls of light and
heat made to brighten up the universes. From these suns came stars, broken
off. Then God decided to make a surface to put all of the creations to be
made in the future. With this purpose, God decided to form a rock wall
surrounding the universes. The rock was formed from particles of things made
during the creation of the universes, suns, and stars. It was all collected
together to form the wall of rock. From this rock God broke all of the
planets. They were placed in orbits surrounding the sun. God Himself entered
this rock so God could surround all that was created. Beyond the rock became
heaven, and beyond that the astral plane. Everything together made up a
circular ball of infinity, with the creations in the center. Beyond these
were the rock surrounding, then heaven, and then the astral plane.
God, in heaven, decided to try and create life to live on the planets. God
created clouds to hover over the planets. God had water form inside them
until they were all completely full. Then it rained and rained. In some
parts of certain planets it even hailed. These great storms caused oceans to
form. Then, during these storms, there was thunder and lightning. When the
lightning hit the oceans they created small life-forms in them. The life-
forms were unicellular, but eventually grew. God started creating in heaven,
trying to make a perfect life-form. Everything God made started unicellular
in heaven. Everything developed in heaven was released to the planets in
stages. Different life-forms were released to different planets and areas
suited to them. Some evolved and some did not. It all depended on God and
the environment God caused upon the planets. When God got up to creating
dinosaurs, they were considered very superior over other life-forms. Around
this time also, God had discovered monkeys. He released them upon the earth
(one of the planets). These monkeys began to evolve into humans. Because God
knew dinosaurs and humans could not get along, God had to destroy his race of
dinosaurs that held so much promise. God knew, though, that things must move
on. Before this though, God had humans live in heaven for a time. God
created man and woman at the same time to complement each other and gave both
free will. Their free will got the best of them though when they tried to
trick God. They were banished to live on Planet Earth (only). They have
lived there since then.
Many other species have been produced after this time. There have been more
intelligent life-forms than humans, but none have ever originally lived in
heaven as humans did. These life-forms have been released on different
planets besides earth but have been seen on this planet occasionally. This is
how God created everything we know today.
God wanted people to go somewhere when they died. God knew the life cycle
must move on. God decided for people to live in heaven when they died. God
knew this task could not be done easily because humans originally had been
kicked out of heaven. God knew there were souls waiting to come to God and
spirits trying to find a place to go along the rock, patiently waiting to be
let in. God decided to make a man to go down to earth to save the souls and
spirits waiting by "the gates of heaven". This man would be born by Mary and
would die for all people in the place of his father, God. God released this
special man in Mary and everything went as planned. People were taught about
God, even though not everyone listened. Jesus was His name, and He died to
save all humanity, crucified by the men and women he loved. When he died he
opened "the gates of heaven" and the souls went straight to God. God knew to
make a place for the spirits of everyone. While Jesus was on earth, God was
busy at this task, planning the cycle of the dead.
The spirits of the dead were put in the most beautiful place imagined, heaven
(the Garden of Eden). From this place everyone was happy and all was at
peace. It was a perfect place to be content with all. Once souls had spent a
great deal of time with God they were put once again in someone on earth in a
process of reincarnation. At this time another spirit would be born to serve
as the essence of that person and provide them with a sense of God and
spiritual energy. These spirits also could communicate with others and travel
away from their own psychical bodies creating which is sometimes called
"chemistry". They could serve as a conscience for that person, helping them
solve questionable problems, and even help along some possible destiny or
fate. These spirits could communicate with God very indirectly through a
spirit guide to ask favors for their psychical bodied when they prayed. When
they asked they were always tried to be answered positively if possible, but
nonetheless, always answered in some way.
When a person died, their spirits would take the persons soul to God through
space. After God received the soul, the spirit would continue on to heaven.
When that person was reincarnated, the soul would return to earth in a
different body and the spirit of the person before it would still stay in
heaven. A new spirit would now be with the soul´s now new psychical form. In
this way, the spirits of everyone alive would always "live" on.
Jesus´ spirit, however, was not put in heaven, but instead took over the
energy of the sun where he could be "the light of the world" and watch over
His people. This is how God sees everything we do and this is also why demons
are more present at night. His soul stays with His Father in the rock until
he returns again when the sun dies out and the world comes to an end to judge
who will go to heaven or hell. There was also a Holy Spirit placed in heaven
to watch over all the spirits there and represent God. In this way, God
became a trinity of three beings, the father (of all), the Son (Jesus), and
the Holy Spirit (a universal conscience).
When everyone who had been waiting to go into heaven went there after Jesus
saved them, the spirits of the people who had chosen to do evil on earth had
entered too. God thought they would change their ways when they at last
reached heaven and discovered how great God was. Lucifer was an angel that
led a rebellion against God, planning to trick God and take over all.
Originally, Satan was very honored in the eyes of God, but He wished to have
more power. A war began in heaven, angel against angel, good against evil.
Eventually Satan and his followers perished and were sent to the center of the
earth in a pit of never-ending burning fire. He tortured and used the spirits
there that had done evil on the earth. God still had their souls though, and
they did become reincarnated to get another chance to go to heaven. When
reincarnated, people did not remember their past lives, but when they were
evil in one life, they usually did not have a very favorable life in the next.
They had a chance to change their life for the better though.
In heaven and hell, a hierarchy was established. In heaven, first, as always,
came the Holy Spirit (or God). Then came the angels, sent to do the Holy
Spirit´s "dirty work", as in avoiding or confronting fights with the devil´s
angels (demons) or handling an important task on earth, such as saving someone
from near death that is not meant to be. Under the angels came spirit guides,
sent by the Holy Spirit to watch over each individual person and relay
messages from that person´s spirit to God. Under spirit guides came the
spirits of people that have died. In hell the same system was established,
except that there were no spirit guides sent by the devil unless asked for
directly, and instead of angels there were demons (which serve almost the same
purpose, but demons were sent to earth primarily to do evil, not good). There
were also some fallen angels on earth that were sent by God in human form.
These angels retained their spirit every time they were reincarnated and
remembered things that they learned when they died, but not all the details of
their former life. They walked the earth as a human, but helped others in
learning more about God in a direct way, without people knowing that they
really were angels.
The astral plane, beyond heaven, was a place where just about anything could
happen. Evil and good were present there, and magick was relayed to either
God or the devil. This was where the spirits of animals went when they died
and the altered spirit of each human stayed. People on earth have been
conscious of the fact that their spirits had gone to this place. In order to
have done this, that person´s consciousness enters a spiritual trance and
enters their own spirit, leaving the psychical body. Great knowledge could be
gained by visiting the astral plane, but it is also very dangerous because
anything could happen there. People have died apparently for no reason
because they have been attacked and killed in the astral plane. These people
appeared to have just fallen asleep, but for no reason did not wake up.
Spiritual energy and power comes from the astral plane also, such as the
energy from crystals. White magick directed toward God is sent through the
astral plane and black magick toward the devil.
There are many exceptions in the processes of dying and being born again.
Many on earth have seen ghosts. Some have been good and others evil. These
have been spirits possibly escaped from heaven and hell or maybe
angels/demons. They have escaped somehow, sometimes with the help of the Holy
Spirit or devil and sometimes not. Sometimes people on earth have been killed
and have stayed on earth to get justice from their killer. Only then can they
get to heaven and their soul can get to God, when their task is complete.
Sometimes people on earth can see them and help them in their task. Sometimes
spirits are just there on earth for no reason except they do not feel ready to
go to heaven yet. God knows this and does not hold anything against them as
long as they do not harm anyone. The devil, on the other hand, often lets
spirits out of hell when God is not watching him. They go to earth with the
intent on haunting and torturing people who are vulnerable. Sometimes the
devil´s spirits also are not ready to go to hell and they stay on earth
against the will of God. They also torture others while being tortured
themselves by the Holy Spirit. The devil is always trying to take the place
of God and challenge God by bringing more and more evil to earth. When the
end of the world is at hand, the devil will be his strongest, and then Jesus
will return to warn us, but few will listen. Most spirits will go to hell,
but that depends on who does and does not trust in God. The devil, in the
center of the earth, is very susceptible to humans because of his closeness to
the earth´s surface.
Some people remember their past lives when they become reincarnated, most of
the time only fragments. Sometimes people put the fragments together and
understand why they remember. Then they can find people who knew them before
and help them with their loss.
Some psychics or "empaths" are real. They have been touched by the Holy
Spirit to help others on earth. Also, very few of psychiatrists have the
power to help people as psychics can. They have been given the gift of
understanding people, how they think, and what their thoughts mean by the Holy
Spirit. All jobs have a purpose really, as all people have a purpose on
earth.
Dreams can either be a connection to the astral plane, if the dream is very
vivid, or it can be a simple learning tool used by a person´s spirit to convey
information to its psychical body. People can also talk to the spirits of
others in dreams. The devil´s spirits can also enter dreams, which cause some
nightmares. Other nightmares are warnings against something that could happen
in the future. Some dreams people can control, called lucid dreams. These
dreams are also when someone enters the astral plane. These dreams are
usually the most wonderful or a least most detailed. Dreams contain many
symbols that can tell of a past life, the present, or even the future.
God does have rules for us, but not many. We must do what is considered
universally right always and listen to our conscience, not the devil. We must
always try to help ourselves and not do anything to hurt ourselves exceedingly
if possible. We can honor God in our own way, not being pressured by anyone.
We must try to keep our faith alive.
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 13:56:58 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.org>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: the net
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extends forever--SHOOOM.....HORIZENS LOST....
Little lacey links of white life link little crystal spheres (not hard!)
The spheres reflect EVERYTHING.
If you look real close at one of them, you see all the rest of them.
if you break one apart, it becomes two identicals, with lifelinks.
the white stuff is love.
the sphere stuff is life.
and i am in a very weird headspace today.
What is the official story of Indra's net?
maitri,
--some strange wierd crazy person
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 15:08:29 -0500
From: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Cc: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
Subject: warning: negative vibes
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If you are reading this I will assume you are having a good day and won't
be harmed by the crap that is clinging to me.
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Ready? Okey dokey. Well, my boss has seen fit to deprive me of my own
personal office space and set my desk and computer out in the middle of the
high school library where everything I own can be molested and rifled
through by bored and unsupervised students in the morning before I get
there. Oh goody.
And I now no longer have a sanctuary to retreat to when the sh*t gets too deep.
And what little power I had from having my own space is also now gone.
And I can no longer eat or drink anything while I work at my computer
because it is forbidden in the library. I am hypoglycemic and this will be
a major problem for me.
My ADD makes it near impossible to concentrate on anything with a roomful
of yabbering kids, not to mention that they are now free to come up behind
me and look over my shoulder at my computer screen and make comments about
it whenever!
Yes, Angelique, I know I could try and cast a protective spell over my
stuff but my faith in such things is rather small. I'm sure it works for
you but I am not you (at least not in this mode of existence, yeah yeah "we
are all one" blah blah blah).
Bottom line, I am so down I know my subconscious is sending out "killer
messages" to all my cells. I do not consciously want to die, no suicide
danger in the blatant sense... don't think I'm capable, but I can't seem to
snap out of this. This work thing has happened too many times. I just get
myself built up to a livable wage when my boss decides to go psychotic (if
they weren't already) and I have to quit in order to survive. I'm getting
too old to keep starting over.
I have been searching for alternative ways to make a living. I admire
Angelique's solution, but I'm not as much of an extrovert as she is :-).
Having slaves would not work for me. I would tend to ignore them, and then
they would get pouty and revolt ;-). I keep thinking of inventions and
other ideas to sell... but nothing is really gelling....
I passed up an opportunity to take a college class I needed in order to
stay with this present job and now the b*tch springs this "desk cast adrift
in a sea of crap" thing. I've got 8 years of retirement benefits built up
in the school system and I had a short term goal of at least making it
until I had 10 in. That way I could finally retire when I'm 75!!!!! Hah!
My husband is supportive, but if I quit my job the power balance in our
relationship will undergo changes I know I will not like, capice?
End rant. No comment necessary especially if you are just going to scold me
for whining. It is not helpful. I may be unsubscribing soon anyway due to
this work thing.
amckeon
*kundalini-schmundalini; it doesn't pay the rent*
:-P~
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 16:12:23 -0400
From: "Kat" <KcliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca>
To: "Hudson Jackson II" <hjackson2ATnospamhotmail.com>, <geoffrey33ATnospamjuno.com>
Cc: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Ego
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Hi Hudson,
>Evil exists, and yet God has not ordained that. Certain renegade angels
>first conjured that idea and concept up and were thrown out of heaven,
>and then there was the Garden of Eden story, and now look what we have
>today: a struggle.>
It is interesting that today of all days I come across your message. I am
on another list that is debating whether there is evil or not. The general
thought is that it is not. The thoughts go along the same line that another
member here posted that there is only God. Bascially it depends on where
you are sitting on your path.
this is one of the struggles I am in right now. One of the reason's I have
not been able to surrender.........what if I am surrendering to something
that is evil and not good like we think? ......negetive thinking I know but
it is there and by god I am going to get this worked out of my system one
way or another. So tell me why are you so sure that there is evil that it
does exist?
Mind if I quote you if I like your answer?
In L&L & Understanding,
Katharine
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 16:38:37 EDT
From: Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com
To: mtvictoryATnospamhotmail.com, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Boston- Seeking Kundalini teachers
Message-ID: <4a8589e1.35e4724fATnospamaol.com>
In a message dated 8/26/1998 11:42:00 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
mtvictoryATnospamhotmail.com writes:
<< Namaste-
Can anyone suggest or reccomend teachers or centre's for Kundalini Yoga
in the Greater Boston/Cambridge area. I would like to join
for Kundalini yoga classes. Any info or pointers would be helpful.
>>
Harsha: Go to your local health food store. They usually have all the
information you need.
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 16:51:59 -0400
From: "Wonderer" <mrtn74aATnospamprodigy.com>
To: "Kundalini" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Obedience?
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Being a natural-born rebel, this thread never interested me much,
except the part about obedience in children. As a mom, I want my son
to be polite and responsible, but not subservient. It's a hard
balance to strike, because little kids can be a pain in the rear and
quite mischievous. So, sometimes, I have to come down harder than I
want, and am not too happy about that.
I still don't get what is the big deal about Mary's comments? (I
don't know if I've really been getting all of these posts anyway.)
So - she has an opinion. Many of us don't agree. Honestly, I don't
really know. Since I've always been disobedient, I've always seen it
as my pride (I know this is a sin) and my flaw - a double-edged
sword. I've often feared becoming one of the "mindless masses", and
I try to think for myself. This sometimes has led me into mistakes I
would not have made if I had listened to wiser counsel. The problem
is knowing who to listen to in the first place.
My Christian friends think they've got it all "figgered out" too. I
know proselytizing is annoying, but Mary is really all that bad? She
just seems to be sharing her beliefs.
Can we just let this one go?
Cathy
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 14:04:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: b bah <happyhunaATnospamyahoo.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Cc: muchmoreATnospamonelist.com
Subject: re: shaman's comments to "chuc", ditto to me
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Hi,
Veerrry interesting. I too was told by a Cree shaman in the city
where I live that I am Cree and have "powers". The year before this on
a visit to Hilo Hawaii I was told by a Kahuna that I was Hawaiian, and
then with eyes filling with tears (disconcerting to me since he is
built like a Fullback), "You have The Power, do you understand?" What
he said next was even more startling and too personal to plaster on
any list.
I hope you asked the shaman you talked too many, many questions. I was
too flabergasted to ask more than the most basic questions.
Don't know if the Cree shaman is correct, he probably is. But quite
sure the Kahuna is dead on as when (on arr. at Hilo air port) I was
halfway down the escalator
approaching ground level, I was "told" , "You are home"
. When I told the Kahuna this he agreed and told me , that's what I
have been telling you.
Be well/stay happy bbah
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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 14:48:48 PDT
From: "Pure Heart" <pure_heartATnospamhotmail.com>
To: hjackson2ATnospamhotmail.com, geoffrey33ATnospamjuno.com, KcliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Regarding the problem of Evil
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Since reality is both Holographic and Hierarchical at the same
time, since there are 'lesser realities' that are little
snapshots of a more comprehensive larger reality
(for example the physical plane, or the astral plane when seen
from the creative plane.)
Since there are frozen bits of the 'whole' separated away from
totality, there will of necessity be 'gaps' where 'evil' can
form.
I mean on the physical plane, its plain that 'ignorance' leads
to stupidity, and stupidity over time leads to 'evil', because
if you can't 'course correct back home' you will be 'lost'.
Now the larger question: do evil beings exist?
Well after 20 years of wrestling with this, its plain to me
that 'archetypal evil' exists. I mean humans have believed in
'lucifer' for over 2,000 years. All this belief has either
created outright, or maybe magnified something that actually did
originally exist already in some form.
The more eastern-minded would call this one of the 'lurkers'.
I guess that us westerners only created one boogey man, rather than
bunches of 'hungry ghosts'.
What's sad, is that this 'energy' is rushing us towards
Armageddon.
This soul-less energy and others like it (i.e Baphomet, Set,
and all the other archetypal forms) have a lot of 'real' power,
at least on this plane, and at least if you let them.
The problem is, that the human race is pretty much cut off from
their divine birthright, and when they 'reach out' for something
'spiritual', they will usually latch onto one of the 'energies'
and not 'what's real', because they aren't pure enough to find
what's real (what Kundalini can reveal to you).
Are there 'Actual', 'Actual' evil beings? Well I know where
to find some ill-tempered mutant sea bass (a movie quote).
But seriously, almost EVERYTHING, good and evil both is 'unreal' from
the most exalted vantage point.
My 2 bits.
Kevin
>It is interesting that today of all days I come across your message. I
am
>on another list that is debating whether there is evil or not. The
general
>thought is that it is not. The thoughts go along the same line that
another
>member here posted that there is only God. Bascially it depends on
where
>you are sitting on your path.
>
>this is one of the struggles I am in right now. One of the reason's I
have
>not been able to surrender.........what if I am surrendering to
something
>that is evil and not good like we think? ......negetive thinking I
know but
>it is there and by god I am going to get this worked out of my system
one
>way or another. So tell me why are you so sure that there is evil
that it
>does exist?
>
>Mind if I quote you if I like your answer?
>
>In L&L & Understanding,
>
>Katharine
>
>
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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 16:19:58 -0600
From: nancy <nancyATnospamwtp.net>
To: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us,
"kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: warning: negative vibes
Message-ID: <35E48A0E.2F065D5BATnospamwtp.net>
amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us wrote:
> Well, my boss has seen fit to deprive me of my own
> personal office space.....And I can no longer eat or drink anything while I work
> at my computer...My ADD makes it near impossible to concentrate on anything with
> a roomful
> of yabbering kids, not to mention that they are now free to come up behind
> me and look over my shoulder at my computer screen and make comments about
> it whenever!
OK, I won't "scolded" you for whining. It's very obvious to me that you need to
make some changes in your life, particularly in the work arena. You won't do it so
more and more unpleasant things pile up. Your boss is giving you a gift. Seize it!
You are holding yourself back. No one else is. Move on already and find some joy in
your life. You know what you need to do. DO IT!!!
Nancy
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 18:04:14 EDT
From: AfperryATnospamaol.com
To: hjackson2ATnospamhotmail.com
Cc: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Ego
Message-ID: <38cdd224.35e4865fATnospamaol.com>
Dear Hudson,
In a message dated 26/8/98 6:02:05 pm, you wrote:
>>There is nothing that exists that is not ordained by God.
>
>Evil exists, and yet God has not ordained that.
Why not? Surely He ordained that we should have the free will to create both
good and evil. How would you know light if you did not have darkness to
compare it with?
Thank God for evil, that's what I say!
God bless,
Alan
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