1998/08/25 08:05
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #590
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 590
Today's Topics:
Re: Question of Purity [ mollyrATnospamibm.net ]
Re:Re: Question of Purity [ geoffrey33ATnospamjuno.com ]
Am I doing this correctly? [ "Vikas Malkani" <souldoctorATnospamusa.net ]
Re: The dogmatic stance of Mary L. R [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
Re: The dogmatic stance of Mary L. R [ v <madammumATnospamptialaska.net> ]
Re: a cool thing happened :) [ "Alan Gaskins" <alan_gaskinsATnospamhotmai ]
Kundalini Rising: A Process [ Denise Lafayette <lafayetteATnospamglobals ]
Re: The dogmatic stance of Mary L. R [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
RE: Kundalini Yoga? [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
Re: The dogmatic stance of Mary L. R [ ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com ]
Re: More talk about the swirling fun [ nancy <nancyATnospamwtp.net> ]
Re: Careful What You Ask for... [ nancy <nancyATnospamwtp.net> ]
Energy rising [ flute <FluteATnospamcreate.org> ]
Re: a cool thing happened :) [ "janpa tsomo" <j_tsomoATnospamhotmail.com> ]
Request Please [ "janpa tsomo" <j_tsomoATnospamhotmail.com> ]
Re: purity (was RE: More talk about [ Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com ]
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 14:25:58 +0800
From: mollyrATnospamibm.net
To: geoffrey33ATnospamjuno.com
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Question of Purity
Message-ID: <35E258F6.F4186894ATnospamibm.net>
Geoffrey,
I did not really address or interpret your vipassana comment properly in the
last post. The taoist formulation of wu-wei, doing by not doing, is apt
here, I think, and links vipassana practice and taoist meditation and
behavioral practice. It takes an enormous effort of will to accomplish by
not doing. The practice of not doing is also an enormous training for the
will. So long as it is done mindfully, or course.
The "semen" which really needs retention is the urge to do, say, be overt.
Because all of these things expend the original Chi (as does ejaculation, I'm
told; not a problem for some of us). Wu-wei is applicable across the board.
A little like mindfulness: there is not anything to which it doesn't apply
I enjoyed your post very much.
M
geoffrey33ATnospamjuno.com wrote:
> >I sorta snickered at this one:
> >> In Buddhism you have "arrived" when you become a buddha.
> >
> >It's not very easy to become a buddha. It is only in the imagination
> that =
> =20
> >this goal is limiting.
>
> >Would you mind explaining what you meant by "over half the journey is a
> =
> =20
> >question of purity"?
> >
> >Thanks,
> > -Kyira
>
> According to the instructor at a Vipassana class, there were over
> 100,00 buddhas in India at the time of the Buddha. I doubt that either
> Christ or Buddha would live up to his reputation. If your consciousness
> penetrates to the level of the "kalapas"(the smallest particles that go
> in and out of existences of which all things are made)thus, freeing your
> trapped consciousness, and your consciousness is always on the buddhic
> plane or higher, you are a buddha. Yes, their are a few levels or stages
> beyond this, but it is more limited than some systems. Buddha himself
> probably far surpassed his own system. That is all Bailey is to me, a
> system, a guide to give me an idea what is next.
>
> All we are is an interference pattern. Thoughts, emotions, food
> etc. increase our resistance. When doing Vipassana meditation, you can
> feel "blind spots" (unintegrated consciousness) which come about from
> the traumas of life. They give us a substitute self.. If a person is
> free of these, k will rise naturally. It is when the body has
> "blockages" in its energy field that problems arise. There continues to
> be a purification of the spiritual bodies beyond this as you lose sense
> of self and you become immune to praise or criticism. Personal desires
> and sense of time fall away("space cadet").
>
> By saying "over half of the journey is a question of purity" , I
> mean most of the work is to remove the "impure" thought-forms from our
> energy field. The purified will is also important. I think this is
> overlooked at Vipassana. Buddha sat under a tree and said to himself
> that he would stay there until he achieved enlightenment. That is a
> pretty focused will. In the Bailey material, the 4th and higher
> initiations are all willed. If you will them and your not ready, it
> won't work. But you could also be ready and plateau. There is a higher
> will that works through the person, it is not the personal will. It
> seems like the choice is made for you about how far you will go this
> lifetime. At first this will can be overriden by the personality, later
> it can't.
>
> I was suprised by the amount of discussion over Bailey and that no
> one mentioned the Taoist practices of semen retention and such. Debating
> books is only slightly better than debating definitions of terms, it is
> experiences that bring meaningful change.
>
> Blessings to all,
>
> Geoffrey
>
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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 01:44:36 -0700
From: geoffrey33ATnospamjuno.com
To: mollyrATnospamibm.net
Cc: geoffrey33ATnospamjuno.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re:Re: Question of Purity
Message-ID: <19980825.014438.3662.1.Geoffrey33ATnospamjuno.com>
There are vipassana centers around the would taught by videotape by
S.M..Goenka(or something like that). They are usually for 10 days,
meditating 10 hours a day with 9 of those days silent. The first 3 1/2
days are focused on the air going in and out of the nose. This is
because most people are too unfocused to do the meditation. After that,
the mind is focused and the work can begin. The attention is moved
through the body, starting with the crown, feeling every sensation.
"Blind spots" appear that can not be penetrated with the mind. These are
worked around and then returned to latter, eventually giving way. It is
a purifying meditation. When the body is clear you sweep from head to
toe and back. They claim it is the original form but I don't think the
books really support that.
At the risk of being called a Fruit Loop:
What I practice is a variation on this. At one point, I discovered I
could condense my consciousness into a bomb and explode it into the
unintegrated consciousness or "blind spot". In that split second my
consciousness penetrates the area and it is no longer unintergrated. I
found this technique many times faster than the other way. The trick is
to free enough consciousness first, or I doubt it will work. That is why
moving the consciousness to the level of the kalapas is important. It
is as if tiny particles of consciousness are trapped between sub-atomic
particles. So when the Buddha sat under the tree, he moved his awareness
through the level of the kalapas to the void. Just before the kalapas
are experienced, the trapped consciousness is set free. After that
happens, the consciousness bombs are effective. After the body is
cleared, the soul starts sending past accumulated "blind spots" into the
body in vast numbers. It is after all, a record keeper. The dweller of
the abyss(self doubt condensed) is typically confronted before the
awareness can be moved to the level of the kalapas.
Infinite blessing to all beings,
Geoffrey
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 23:23:59 +0530
From: "Vikas Malkani" <souldoctorATnospamusa.net>
To: "Kundalini List" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Am I doing this correctly?
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Just testing to see if this message gets through without an attachment.
Attachments are depleting for us in more ways than one.
Love to all,
Vikas
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 00:05:46 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: mollyrATnospamibm.net
Cc: Sharon Webb <shawebbATnospamyhc.edu>, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: The dogmatic stance of Mary L. Riley
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At 11:46 AM 25/08/98 +0800, mollyrATnospamibm.net wrote:
>This message is too hostile for reply. The answers lie inside yourself.
>M
If the answers lie within yourself, Mary, then why all the dogma?
Sharon wrote you an impassioned, but polite response. Your out of hand
rejection is incredibly rude.
I have not been reading your posts, Mary, as I have been rather busy
lately, but I think I will go back and see who it is that seems to post so
often, and snub folks so rudely. I am the dragon who guards list harmony..
and I find August makes me very ferocious. Just Karma clearing, but it does
seem to go looking for an outlet, and you might be a tasty meal.
Wanting other people to change, eh?? Two can play that game...:)
I am a pro Dominatrix, and I will tell you, you cannot get people to
change, even if you tie them up and torture them, unless they decide in
their own minds they want to.
Thus, I don't try to change folks on the list, too much..
However, when faced with inappropriate folks for this garden, especially
if they seem to grab a disproportionate amount of bandwidth, I have been
known to be very cruel, repeatedly torturing with words until they run away.
Anyways, off I go to read your mail.. and see if you are a flower or a
weed.. a weed, being a flower that has taken root in the wrong place at the
wrong time...:)
Blessings, Mystress.
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 23:44:39 -0800
From: v <madammumATnospamptialaska.net>
To: Sharon Webb <shawebbATnospamyhc.edu>
CC: mollyrATnospamibm.net, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: The dogmatic stance of Mary L. Riley
Message-ID: <35E26B6A.7621ATnospamptialaska.net>
Sometimes issues within posts push *buttons* inside without knowing
why exactly, like - Nazis for instance - they make good scapegoats! I
think the very mention of them is so jam packed with bad karma-like
influences that those atrocities performed on other humans reach a hand
from beyond & just skewer people's good intentions all to h*ll; deep
down to their very base level of awareness at the marrow. That's just
been my experience.
But, ve must resist zees evil influences vit all our inner vills!
I wanted to compliment you-all on the subject title - "The Dogmatic
Stance Of Mary L. Riley" - it is so *dramatic* - could be a title for a
Victorian novel (oh, shame!) - an Irish gal comes to be governess for a
monied family in Dublin, & the crippled Lady of the house in a
wheelchair, but Mary *falls in love* with the husband, & so (sob!) must
make the choice - to do what's right, & leave again back to her aging
grandmother's cottage in rural southern Ireland, in poverty, where she
has no future, or else - to succumb to the master's passionate glances &
fall prey to his admirations & stay with his children, whom she adores,
knowing full well that she'll always be his "mistress", & woman #2 in
his life...(gasp!!!)
Oh! The torture of indecision! Mary L. Riley strolls along the windy
cliffs above the sea seeking clarity in the salt air; shall she stay?
shall she go? shall she seek employment elsewhere in Dublin (what with
her forged references already & thankin' the good Lord for her
incredible luck so far)? or - nay, perish the thought - shall she cast
herself unto the churlish waves of the open waters bursting forth upon
the rocks below???
Stay tuned for the next episode of 'The Dogmatic Stance Of Mary L.
Riley', wherein she makes her decision & takes her actual *dogmatic
stance* (an UNHEARD of position for a working woman in 19th century
Ireland)!
Only THE SHADOW knows *bru hehehe*!
Pardon my burst of creative inspiration here, I do not mean to be
flippant! just that - truly - it is a 'made for television movie' in the
making, & I am *honored* to have thought of it first!
Thankyou! Thankyou one & all! (thunderous applause)
Carry on as before!
:)
vc
Sharon Webb wrote:
>
> Mary L. Riley wrote:
> >This message is too hostile for reply. The answers lie inside yourself.
>
> Exactly, Mary L. You've made my point.
>
> Sharon
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 00:52:17 PDT
From: "Alan Gaskins" <alan_gaskinsATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, j_tsomoATnospamhotmail.com
Subject: Re: a cool thing happened :)
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>From: "janpa tsomo" <j_tsomoATnospamhotmail.com>
>To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
>Subject: a cool thing happened :)
>Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 08:48:30 PDT
>
>i was at a Beastie Boys concert gathering signatures for the Milarepa
>Fund. One young woman was leaning over my clipboard signing her name
and
>i could feel her brow chakra's spin and my own spinning with a commen
>heat. also my heart center fired and started spinning.
>
>i had the impulse to put my forehead to hers in blessing gesture. i
>think i met someone i used to know :). i didnt do this however, we were
>in the middle of a huge crowd of people, and i got shy.
>
>it was kinda funny, kinda cool.
>
>maitri,
>
>--janpa
>
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>
Spirit likes to party too!
You were at a Beastie Boys concert, doing a spiritual service, having a
spiritual experience - you should have frenched her third eye! :-)
Then, perhaps a Namaste arse grab... anything after that, however, and
you're on your own... of course that's just my opinion, I could be
wrong.
PEACE,etc.
Everything is relative to the mind, including the mind itself...
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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 05:04:57 -0400
From: Denise Lafayette <lafayetteATnospamglobalserve.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Kundalini Rising: A Process
Message-ID: <35E27E39.7F07ATnospamglobalserve.net>
I am very happy I have found a forum to exchange ideas regarding
kundalini experience.
The rising of kundalini energy has been a process for me which is
sometimes excellerated and sometimes seems to be on pause. I have been
experiencing a lot of syncronicity lately as a direct result of my
rising kundalini; this is an excellerated period. I am more serene,
intuitive, concern for my fellows has increased dramatically and
business opportunities seem to be falling into place. This
"excelleration" has followed a slow but consistent development of
rediscovering myself and the world around me. Prior to this
development I was "spiritually dying" very quickly and this was
reflected in the drama-trauma I experienced regularly as a manifestation
of my poor spiritual condition.
The process will continue and it is during the times which seem like
the rising of energy is on pause that I most need to remind myself of
this.
Happy Processing to you all.
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 02:53:33 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: madammumATnospamptialaska.net
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: The dogmatic stance of Mary L. Riley
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I am delighted to find like company.
It is a great comfort to know that I am not alone,
in going slightly bonkers in the dog days of summer.
Thankyou very much. 3 cheers for k-fired Kundalites..
At 11:44 PM 24/08/98 -0800, v wrote:
> Only THE SHADOW knows *bru hehehe*!
<...>>Thankyou! Thankyou one & all! (thunderous applause)
>Carry on as before!
>:)
>vc
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 02:30:23 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: "Mary L. Riley" <mollyrATnospamibm.net>
Cc: kyira_korriganATnospamdynapro.com (Kyira Korrigan - DTI,MF),
kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com (kundalini-l)
Subject: RE: Kundalini Yoga?
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At 06:33 AM 25/08/98 +0800, Mary L. Riley wrote:
>Karma means that which causes our repressions.
>M
>
Then i guess I am your Karma, coz I am Gonna repress you. Bandwidth is
like Gold around these parts, a resource to be shared wisely.. and
reposting 5k of repeated material along with your single line response, or
9 k. with your 12 line response, is a very rude waste of bandwidth, and
hostile to the resources of members, especially some of our European and
Eastern members who pay for email by volume.. Not to mention, mind
numbingly tedious to Digest subscribers, who must wade thru it all to reach
the next post.
How about some obedience to the list guidelines, OK?
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 08:23:37 EDT
From: ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com
To: mollyrATnospamibm.net, shawebbATnospamyhc.edu
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: The dogmatic stance of Mary L. Riley
Message-ID: <af4415a6.35e2accaATnospamaol.com>
In a message dated 8/24/98 11:59:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mollyrATnospamibm.net
writes:
<< This message is too hostile for reply. The answers lie inside yourself. >>
C'mon Molly.... Sharon was merely interacting. Now you are rejecting her. To
use the ol' cop-out "go within" is bull. You 'go within' and see what you
find... Please note your following statement:
>Influence occurs by interaction. You are influencing
>me. But sustained interaction creates greater influence while rejection
>creates less.
The question would be... how can I continue this conversation and create a
oneness rather than separation and rejection? How can I sustain this
interaction to create greater influence? Words and ideas are meaningless
until you take the words and apply them to your life. What is important is
that you continue to communicate until the stones are rubbed smooth (of course
using the rough stones rubbed together to create smoothness analogy).
Why is it important to you that she accepts your opinions, and if she doesn't,
you dismiss her as hostile? hmmmm something is wrong with this picture. Are
you going to reject me too because you think I'm hostile?
Love,
xxxtg
* 668: The Neighbor of the Beast *
http://members.aol.com/Teeegeee/tgsplace.html
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 07:22:40 -0600
From: nancy <nancyATnospamwtp.net>
To: kundalini-1 <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: More talk about the swirling funnel.
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First, let me say, Mary, that I'm NOT upset. I just don't follow your
train of
thought on this subject.
Mary L. Riley wrote:
> First: obediance is a contradiction because the one being obedient is
the one
> who needs it, not the one to whom the obediance is given.
I would say neither "need" it, but both get their rewards from it. It's
an energy
exhange, pure and simple.
> While surrender is neede, blindness is not. I wouldn't recommend
blind
> obedience.
Who do we surrender to? Who are we blinded by?
> Obedience should not lead or let you do bad things.
What are "bad" things? Very subjective.
> Thus
> there is an important place for morality in the world.
>From Hitler's eyes, he WAS following his morality.
> I recommend the
> discipline of setting aside a period of days to never tell any lies at
all, even
> white lies, even slight deceptions.
Why just set aside a period of days? If that's your morality, live it
now and
always.
> When you can do that you might be ready for
> the spiritual discipline of obedience.
???
> By understanding it as a spiritual discipline, you can practice it
even when the
> person or the orders to which you are expected to be obedient are not
completely
> right or good.
Why in the world would you want to practice being obedient to ideas you
don't
agree? That seems silly.
> Most employees are very familiar with this: being asked to do
> things the wrong way. Most employees can distinguish between big
wrongs, worth
> going to war with the boss about (at risk of losing one's job) and
little wrongs,
> which we let pass.
I work in marketing. My boss has an idea that we need to put together a
campaign
with a headline that I don't think will sell our service. I register my
objection.
Now since she is the one with the final say, she can make the decision.
Is that
what you're calling obedience? There's no right or wrong. It's a
difference in
opinion. Since she's the boss, she gets to go with her opinion.
> In fact most sons and daughters are familiar with
> this as a daily problem. In America we first judge our parents before
offering
> obedience.
I have a 10 year old and I haven't strived to acquire her "obedience." I
have shown
her love and respect and in return I receive love and respect. We both
remind each
other about the things we need to do around the house. I'm always asking
her to
pick up her dishes. She tells me to pick up my papers. Perhaps there is
no need for
"obedience" when there is love and respect.
> In Asia people first obey and judge with trepidation if at all.
> Thus in Asia the art of obedience is more widely practiced and they
condemn the
> corruption of America as due to the spiritual imbalance of our habit
of judging
> before we obey.
Well, I don't know about Asians, and I hate to categorize a group as
being the
same.
> I too had abusive parents, but being obedient to them helped me
through it.
Again, can't speak about your life, but find it hard to imagine
submitting to
abuse.
> I
> too had teachers with sexual designs on me, but from my position,
maintaining a
> purity of my intention helped me through it.
That's where you and I differ. I won't tolerate continuing relationships
with
abusive people. I have a sister who is extremely abusive. She does
things just to
stir up trouble and cause misery in the lives of others. She can live
that way if
she chooses, but I don't have to choose to have her a part of my life. I
made that
decision about 6 years ago, and I have never regretted it. Sometimes I
am sorry
that I can't have a storybook relationship with her, but that's my own
expectations.
> The obedience is important for the
> person being obedient. Any person abusing the obediance of another
creates
> horrific karma for themselves (the real nazi problem).
I would think the people being gassed would disagree with you.
> The problem is not
> solved by insisting on doing things one's own way all the time -- that
stunts
> your spiritual growth.
I have found the answers lie within me. Following my inner voice has
provided
immense growth.
> All this doesn't mean that we shouldn't take effective steps to rid
the world of
> nazis and abusers. In real life situations it is rarely the victims,
at the
> time of victimization, who are in a position to do that. I mean that
there is a
> time for obedience and a time for cleaning up the society around us.
Most often
> these are different times and different people
???
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 07:46:16 -0600
From: nancy <nancyATnospamwtp.net>
To: kundalini-1 <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Careful What You Ask for...
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> Maybe the thoughts which entered your head were in a sense intuitions
> or simple observations of the processes that had already begun long
> before you started asking to lose the weight. You may only have asked
> the question at a certain point but possibly thoughts aren't really
> yours anyway. Thought is so subject to control that it is almost
> totally beyond control so perhaps the thoughts rising were a
> reflection of a state of things happening in your consciousness.
> Symptoms, if you like.
This is a very interesting perspective, Paul.
I have always thoughts (attached with feelings) as the start of my
creations. I guess since I create for a living (writing, designing,
planning projects), I have continually seen thoughts transmute into
things. The way I see it is that we put out our intentions, and our
angels, guides, the divine, help us behind the scenes, cutting deals
with other angels, whispering in the ears of people we need help from.
The funny part is that doubt in any way diminishes your ability to
create. I've mentioned before that I used to have a business. Well, I
was determined to do a business plan for it, raise $$ and have it be
self-sufficient. The thing that was always in the back of my mind was
whether I wanted to be tied down to that business. Well, as you can
imagine, I did do the business plan, raised $$, and now the business is
run by someone else! I got exactly what my thoughts produced.
Lately, I've been trying a trick with thoughts and feelings using email
as a model. In my head, I type a message to someone. Then I type in
their name (again in my head) in the "to" box. I turn on my mental
modem. Attach whatever feeling I want sent along with message. And hit
"send" and transmit it to the "server" of the receipient. (I'll attach a
feeling with this message--be interested if anyone can pick up on what
it is...)
I'd like to ask others their opinions about thoughts and feelings. Do
you think we create what we think about? Or do you think that we think
about that which is already created?
[here comes the attachment] :-)
Nancy
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 08:43:47 -0500
From: flute <FluteATnospamcreate.org>
To: MoonrisempATnospamaol.com
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Energy rising
Message-ID: <35E2BF93.52F3ATnospamcreate.org>
LOL.. yeppers.. or they are chilly and your in a massive sweat..
another thing was I held my hands about 1" above the person and they
swore my hands were hot.. but at the time they were icy and when I
placed my hands on their arm.. They looked at me in shock..
.. GROUND and CENTER THe belly dancing classes were probably perfect for
you. Tai Chi is good to.. Stand with feet about 1 foot apart, bend
knees slightly, straighten back and breath.. Reaching upward and pulling
the energy down helps too.. Grin. I get soo zoned out sometimes.
flute
http://www.create.org/healingarts
"The same stream of life that runs through my veins night and day runs
through the world and dances in rhythmic measures." R. Tagore
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 07:06:29 PDT
From: "janpa tsomo" <j_tsomoATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: a cool thing happened :)
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> Spirit likes to party too!
>You were at a Beastie Boys concert, doing a spiritual service, having a
>spiritual experience - you should have frenched her third eye! :-)
>Then, perhaps a Namaste arse grab... anything after that, however, and
>you're on your own... of course that's just my opinion, I could be
>wrong.
she like you, was a parent sentient being. i dont think a 'namaste arse
grab' would have been a skillful means at that point.
and to let my mind go wild would be a breach of conduct on my end, not
to mention a dangerous loss of control.
i dont understand why you replied to my letter this way. i guess you
meant to be funny, but i do not read this reply as funny.
my goal is to learn compassion and wisdom, granted i do not do too well
on either point sometimes, and perhaps because of my own obscurations i
can not appreciate your humour.
maitri,
--janpa tsomo
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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 07:34:31 PDT
From: "janpa tsomo" <j_tsomoATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Request Please
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Can you please not quote the entire message just to do a one-line reply?
It is really really annoying to see a message of length > 2 k and all it
is is a "Me too" or "I agree" with a bunch of included stuff.
If the >'s on the include get to be more than 3 levels deep, i think its
time to cut some text.
Just a suggestion,
--janpa
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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 10:54:02 EDT
From: Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com
To: kyira_korriganATnospamdynapro.com, geoffrey33ATnospamjuno.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: purity (was RE: More talk about the swir
Message-ID: <642e150d.35e2d00bATnospamaol.com>
In a message dated 8/24/1998 2:02:13 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
kyira_korriganATnospamdynapro.com writes:
<< Would you mind explaining what you meant by "over half the journey is a
question of purity"?
Thanks,
-Kyira >>
Harsha: Yes. I thought Purity was the Whole thing. :---)
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