1998/08/24 08:23
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #585
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 585
Today's Topics: swirling funnel [ Maureen Heffernan ]
Re: kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #583 [ flute ] Re: More talk about the swirling fun [ ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com ]
Re: owwwwwwwie! [ "jim privacy" To: Kundalini
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Hi Geoffrey,
I agree that the A. Bailey material is the best and am still working at understanding it all.I was visiting with an avvanced individual and felt
a pop on the top of my head and thought perhaps a bird had flown by and winged me. This happened about 4 years ago and have since learned that
these poeple are known as "can openers". I have had many sensations, the ants, the heat and the dripping hot fluid and more recently the
expansion of it into to almost a sombreao like effect that I used as a shield.
I don't intentionally focus any energy there, it just is. The best I have heard is that when"angels" are around they percieve the crown
center as a chalice or cup and they imedialtly love to fill them. Picture the crown as the cup part of the chalice, the heart as the bulge
in the stem and the hips as the bottom of the chalice that is the wider base. Then become the "Chalice".The offering. The Grail.
I don't know for sure what lies beyond. I only know that now I understand the picture and description of the "tongues of fire" over the
tops of the heads of the apostles, Mary and the holy women at Pentecost. I think if we keep plugging away we work in the 9,10,11,and 12th centers
above the head and into the "rainbow bridge",antakaranah.(Elizabeth C. Prophey material).
I have been experimenting with bringing that crown sensation through the hands. It's sort of a circling effect that when brought down, the
centers below reach an even more activate and "purer" life and after a period of time the crown achieves even more.
I ask for us all,
More Light.
+ Maureen Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 23:26:30 +1200
From: "Alex, Arie & Janet" To: jane
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com Subject: Re: Thank you.....
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At 04:25 PM 23/08/98 -0500, jane wrote:
>Healing is healing and given the fact that it is indeed technology
>connecting all us humans in this forum.... Well.. yes and no.. the technology carries the words, the zaps are handled
by Goddess.. redirected thru the lighthouse.. so they don't mess up the technology. :) Seamlessly, so no-one notices..
The lighthouse is representation of the energy collective of the cyberspace community.
>. i suggest we be equally
>respectful, kind and loving toward ALL things around us. :) Goddess is All that Is..but sometimes it is kind to slap someone upside
da head, if they are comatose or hysterical. Happens to be my specialty..;) You are new, so you don't know that one aspect of the harmony, is because
the list is managed by a Professional Dominatrix.. Me. :) Hee hee... I manage the list with a very light hand, most of the time.
>enjoying the peace among the people here.....and the freedom to share
It is the beauty of the Garden, that causes the Dragon guarding it to
roar fiercely, sometimes. #1 reason folks unsubscribe, often with regrets, is the weight of
bandwidth this list generates. So it makes sense for me to be occasionally poking folks who thoughtlessly waste this precious resource, by double
posting, reposting bounce messages, not snipping, and off topic postings. Weeding the garden maintains it's beauty.
>Thank you to the people who emailed me as well. i am so happy to be part
>of this group. It just feels good. >
Well, we are delighted to have you here, Jane.. be welcome, gentle soul.
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Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 03:05:43 +0530 From: "Vikas Malkani"
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My fellow list members,
Seems my earlier message, on the same subject, addressed to Sheila came across to all on the list.
I apologise to anyone whose precious time may have been wasted reading something not of their
interest. For those who may have read the
whole message, can anyone help/advise/assist me in getting my books published in the west or making them available there in any other way.
Sheila, I also apologise to you personally for the message going across to all.I am still new to this e-mail
phenomena.I hope you can forgive me if I have disturbed you. Sent in Love,
Vikas
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Geoffrey wrote:
> Over half of the journey is a question of purity. The goal being > to remove any resistance held in the mental, emotional, and spiritual
> bodies.
Jan: This is the essence of the entire road. Because, at a certain moment, the so called "virtues" will start dissolving as well. An other way of
putting this, is that tendencies that control "unwanted tendencies", will dissolve before the "unwanted tendencies" start to dissolve. Many Eastern
yogis, coming to the West, have fallen victim to it.
Geoffrey: I would say the second most important part is a will to push > forward to the next level.
Jan: Surrender is the key. In a "pure one", intuition will speak out loud
and "announce" a next level or difficulty. A pure one has no choice but "do".
Geoffrey: This seems to stop so many people. Thirdly,
> vitality is important. That is why when k awakens at an early age people > often have miraculous powers.
Jan: At an early age, one isn't yet filled up with what some are calling
"crap". The "mental prison" can be demolished with more ease. >
Geoffrey: [...] In Buddhism > you have "arrived" when you become a buddha. [...]
Jan: The only one who gave a useful account of K. phenomena that accompany
the "milestones" on the way, was the Buddha - don't mistake "Buddhism" with the statements of the Buddha.
Geoffrey: My point is, I don't think
> that an awakened k expressing herself though the crown is the final goal. > At the very least, there must be many levels of this. I would
> appreciate any info in that direction.
Jan: Purohit Swami gives account of the "goal" most eloquently: (Liberation, IV, sutra 34) The dissolution of qualities in their source,
when nothing remains to be achieved, is liberation; the revelation of the power of Self, the foundation of the beauty of Self. All doubts are
dissolved, the problem of life is solved, the yogi attains the goal, becomes free, for ever free.
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 07:51:33 -0500 From: flute
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com Subject: Re: kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #583
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Chuckle.. I think the Eclipse zapped Mysterous.. er ah.. Mysteress. .Barbara,
I am also a Reiki Master Teacher and find many many times after a session in a relatively cold room.. Im wringing wet with sweat. Clearing
the chakra's sometimes has a very heated affect. Grin.. After all energy is HEAT as well as light.. Its another expression of
the movement. When those things happen you know its in High Volume within you.
-- flute
Reiki Master Teacher - San Antonio, Texas http://www.create.org/healingarts
"The same stream of life that runs through my veins night and day runs through the world and dances in rhythmic measures." R. Tagore
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 09:31:31 EDT From: ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com Subject: Re: More talk about the swirling funnel.
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In a message dated 8/24/98 8:41:58 AM Eastern Daylight Time, janbarenATnospaminfase.es writes:
Geoffrey: Over half of the journey is a question of purity. The goal
being > to remove any resistance held in the mental, emotional, and spiritual
> bodies.
Jan: This is the essence of the entire road. Because, at a certain moment, the so called "virtues" will start dissolving as well. An other way of
putting this, is that tendencies that control "unwanted tendencies", will dissolve before the "unwanted tendencies" start to dissolve. Many Eastern
yogis, coming to the West, have fallen victim to it. >>
I'm not quite understanding what you just said Jan. Would you elaborate?
Graci,
xxxtg
* I think, therefore I am overqualified *
http://members.aol.com/Teeegeee/tgsplace.html
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 07:10:18 PDT From: "jim privacy"
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, F19AshATnospamaol.com Subject: Re: owwwwwwwie!
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Dear Emily:
I'll include you in a healing ceremony tonight at 9PM Central.
Don't forget the basics like, ice, rest, elevation of affected area.
Ask anytime, that's what we're here for. See you tonight.
Love, -Jim
>hi everyone...i tripped over a curb on the road tonite, sprained my ankle, banged up my knee. Can you please pray for me or do some sort of
healing ritual
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Date: 24 Aug 98 15:33:23 +0000 From: "Paul West"
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com Subject: Re: Fwd: A Declaration of Human Responsibilities (FWD)
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Chris Hughes,
> + We look out on a world ravaged by self-interest and short-term > thinking.
Long-term thinking would be better? Or do you just mean the way that
people are irresponsible about the things they want to have in the present without considering its ramifications?
Maybe a truer state is not to think more of the ramifications but to
think less of them so that the right action comes naturally.
> + We witness the results of ignoring the effects of choices that we > make in our lives; on the environment, on the well-being of other
> people.
/Should/ we be more concerned about the after-effects?
> + We are surely called upon to change, to take responsibility for the > way we live our lives and the impact we have on the planet, on each
> other and on our own health and well-being.
Called upon by whom? Would we do this only if we were called to do it?
> A Declaration of Human Responsibilities
This is one big list of rules. Rules are made to be broken because they are never able to contain the entirity of all possibility.
> * Every person has a responsibility to behave in ways which actively
> foster the well-being of other human beings >
> * Every person has a responsibility to behave in ways that do not > threaten the well-being of other human beings
As nice as that sounds, I am not sure that one needs to have any rules
of intentionally catering for the wellbeing of others. I have a lot of such rules myself and it's a farce. When people are just responsible
for themselves the responsibility towards and for others is just there.
> * Every person has a responsibility to behave in ways which actively
> foster the well-being of the planetary eco-system
Seeming as humans are pretty much at the top of the food chain I doubt there would be much of an effect on anything if suddenly the entirity
of humanity became extinct. So why do we need to interfere with the eco-system at all? Surely it runs smoothly on the very basis that
there is no tampering. Maybe we have a responsibility to undo all the crap we've done to it already, but even then maybe it has the ability
to heal itself.
> * Every person has a responsibility to behave in ways that do not > threaten the well-being of the planetary eco-system
This narrows down the one way into many ways, which is itself harmful.
You can't go saving the planet if you do it violently.
> * Every person has a responsibility to respect diversity and > individuality whilst working to encourage the co-operative spirit
Cooperation works when there is no need for encouragement. In the
house that I live presently, with the rest of my family, we have just set up a new roster system for household chores. Nobody makes any fuss
about stuff not being done or who is doing what or how well it's been done. As such each person is taking full responsibility for ensuring
that they do what is necessary, and because everbody else sees that this is happening there is no need for them to get annoyed about
anything themselves. So it works, and there is cooperation, because there is no issue made about having to have cooperation. If there were
rules and stuff and people getting on other people's backs about doing certain things that cooperation that was trying to be enforced would
not be there.
> * Every person has a responsibility to realise their fullest potential > as a human being
I don't like that sound of that, but maybe that's just how the word
responsibility sounds to me with overtones of rules.
> * Every person has a responsibility to encourage others to realise > their fullest potential as a human being
Again there is no need for such meddling.
> We welcome feedback and comments. Through dialogue we can develop
> our > understanding and explore ways in which the principles of the
> Declaration of Human Responsibilities can be applied. > The Hart Centre, 2 Harts Gardens, Guildford, Surrey, GU2 6QA,
> England
Some bunch of rules ain't going to save the world. They just try to /emulate/ and synthesise the way it would be /like/ if there was
peace. You shouldn't have to have rules in order to achieve peaceful relations, even if those rules are an as close as possible
representation of the way true peace operates. "All is one" doesn't make it so.
--
Paul.
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