1998/08/24 01:38
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #583
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 583
Today's Topics:
Re: Double Posts:End of thread!! [ jane <bigeyesATnospammindspring.com> ]
NONaging [ trexisATnospamjuno.com (Edward Gurd) ]
Re: Double Posts:End of thread!! [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
Thank you..... [ jane <bigeyesATnospammindspring.com> ]
Re: Double Posts:End of thread!! [ "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon. ]
Welcome, Kathy! [ "jim privacy" <jprivacyATnospamhotmail.com ]
Re: Thank you..... [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
Re: Double Posts:End of thread!! [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Cen [ irene longanecker <zoanerATnospamaol.com> ]
Re: Thank you..... [ jane <bigeyesATnospammindspring.com> ]
'Kundalini Feelings' [ "Pure Heart" <pure_heartATnospamhotmail.co ]
Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource [ MoonrisempATnospamaol.com ]
More talk about the swirling funnel. [ geoffrey33ATnospamjuno.com ]
owwwwwwwie! [ F19AshATnospamaol.com ]
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 14:17:48 -0500
From: jane <bigeyesATnospammindspring.com>
To: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Double Posts:End of thread!!
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>At 04:12 AM 23/08/98 -0500, jane wrote:
>>i get that message back EVERY time i post something to this list!!!!
>>Being computer illiterate i didnt know where to begin addressing that.
>>Perhaps there is a glitch in the list energy. :| LOL and we should put
>>our collective kundalini's in it's direction!!!! to correct it. :))))))
>>
>>jane
> do not fuck with the list computer. Do not waste more bandwidth on this
>topic!!
> If you bothered to actually read the thing, you would see it is addressed
>to an individual recipient.
> If you had read previous posts on this topic, you would know this:
????????????????? Excuse me? There are times in email/cyber when tone is
misconstrued. i could swear that the tone of your email was quite angry
and insinuating. i am fairly new [to this list] and was simply responding
[with humor and lightness] to a similar experience.
Who is "fucking with the list computer"???????
For a minute i thought i had tapped into a different list than the one i
have come to greatly admire for it's warmth, sincerity, and compassion.
i certainly meant no harm to you or your list.
jane
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 15:33:10 -0400
From: trexisATnospamjuno.com (Edward Gurd)
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: NONaging
Message-ID: <19980823.153311.10918.1.trexisATnospamjuno.com>
I for one am a believer in near-immortality levels of non aging.
Yes, in the spirit world we are certainly immortal but there is a deep
feeling of truth
that I hear ring within myself when I hear of near immortality stories
such as Babaji, Christian Rozencreutz, Methuselah etc. Not something I
wish for, but the surprise feeling when I stumble on some other piece of
"metaphysical" truth long held in skepticism such as obe's, kundalini
etc. The ancient Chineese kept very good records of their history and
considered dying at 125 dying young. They had many records of people
living multiple centuries in good physical and mental health. Yes it
required different lifestyle, different diet, good atitude, rigorous
intestinal clenliness and often high altitude residence, but most
importantly, it required deeper levels of activation of the subconscious
and according energies (kundalini) and regular disciplined workouts
of these energies. The latter is the most significant. Yes I've taken
anatomy and physiology and understand and accept explainations of why
aging occurs.
You are explaining the subconscious doing things such as forgetting,
having energy levels deplete instead of be replenished, information on
dna being mistranslated or lost. I must respond from deep conviction
that this pattern of lost energy and dna information and cell function
can be reversed, dna information can be recovered, energy can be
replenished, life in the physical form COULD be prolonged in healthy
function many times what we commonly see now. It would require changes
in body chemistry, and physiology. Kundalini awakening IS one of these
chemical, physiological, metaphysical, spiritual changes. Scientists
hope to change aging by altering body chemistry and or dna artificially.
This will never work because it does not "fix" "problems" in the lower
levels of awareness that maintains the physical body.
The subconscious runs and maintains body function. To my understanding,
kundalini IS the aware energy of the subconscious activated to function
in a different manner from the majority of people. The alteration that
must be made is in the subconscious energy levels and subconscious
"mind", dna, chemistry and physiology will follow.
I don't know what it would take, or exactly it could be done, but near
immortal non-aging
must be possible. As I tell all the skeptics who don't believe my
stories and information concerning high mileage gasoline engines.
IT'S BEEN DONE.
First find the basic principles.
Then find the facts, information etc. and properly put them to use.
Keep your head stuck in the sand saying "Humans are geneticly programmed
to die by the age of 150." and you'll never find the way.
Charles Nelson Pogue refused to listen to people tell him that he
couldn't get 150 miles per gallon of gasoline in an 8 cylinder Ford.
People refuse to believe, but
IT HAS BEEN DONE.
But it must be done DIFFERENTLY.
youthfully yours
EG
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Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 12:20:32 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: jane <bigeyesATnospammindspring.com>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Double Posts:End of thread!!
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At 02:17 PM 23/08/98 -0500, jane wrote:
>> do not fuck with the list computer. Do not waste more bandwidth on this
>>topic!!
>????????????????? Excuse me? There are times in email/cyber when tone is
>misconstrued. i could swear that the tone of your email was quite angry
>and insinuating. i am fairly new [to this list] and was simply responding
>[with humor and lightness] to a similar experience.
Don't mind me, I'm Bipolar woman every August... that's K for ya.. and
sometimes a bandwidth dragon, in service to those who pay for email by the
item.. and certainly aggressive in protecting our poor harassed little
listserv computer.
You happened to hit a button: when the list was new, we had tons of
computer errors happening all the time, coz the listserv computer couldn't
handle the Shakti of the posts and would do very odd things. I finally
cast a spell on the thing, to redirect the Shakti energy overloads to the
"Lighthouse", (etheric beacon which drew you here via synchronicity) and
ever since then, it has run smoothly.
Your joking suggestion to "Zap" the computer, especially when it is
actually behaving perfectly, I did not find very funny. I will be the one
who has to fix it after, if you succeeded.
Apparently you dunno the power you hold.. to respect it's uses.. I do,
and would prefer you direct it elsewhere. OK? Thankyou.
Good that you meant no harm.. however, K-fire has destroyed many a
computer, and list members could tell you many sad stories of this. Your
zaps of Shakti are appreciated.. :) Please direct them toward humans, not
technology..
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 16:25:30 -0500
From: jane <bigeyesATnospammindspring.com>
To: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Thank you.....
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Thank you for owning whatever it was that seemed misdirected [at me.]
Where you heard "ZAP" i indeed was acknowledging the powers that exist
among us and although was saying it "lightly" (to me lightly is no less
serious) thought perhaps we could accomplish collective healing.
Healing is healing and given the fact that it is indeed technology
connecting all us humans in this forum..... i suggest we be equally
respectful, kind and loving toward ALL things around us. :)
i hope you hear my gentleness and smile in my words. Mystress, i am so
enjoying the peace among the people here.....and the freedom to share
without the oft riddled lists of elswhere.
Part of me was wailing...... NOOOOOoooooooooooo........ not here....not
now!!!!! :))))) And....i am glad we all exhibited the wherewithall to
move beyond a glitch and misdirected hostility.
Thank you to the people who emailed me as well. i am so happy to be part
of this group. It just feels good.
:)
jane
Date: 23 Aug 98 23:01:03 +0000
From: "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Double Posts:End of thread!!
Message-Id: <OUT-35E09F2E.MD-1.0.paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
> Don't mind me, I'm Bipolar woman every August... that's K for ya..>
you're using that as an excuse Angelique.
--
Paul.
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WWW: http://www.stationone.demon.co.uk
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Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 15:24:05 PDT
From: "jim privacy" <jprivacyATnospamhotmail.com>
To: cat552ATnospamtheads.net
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Welcome, Kathy!
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Dear Kathy:
Your email came through loud and clear. Welcome to the list!
Share anything you want, we're all here to help one another.
Love, -Jim
Hello everyone,
This is my first time posting to the list. I am not sure how it works.
=
I am in need of communication with people who share the spiritual =
awareness and of friends along the path. Will someone email me and let
=
me know if I'm doing this right? Thank you for your help.
In Love and the Light,
Kathy
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Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 14:30:59 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: jane <bigeyesATnospammindspring.com>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Thank you.....
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At 04:25 PM 23/08/98 -0500, jane wrote:
>Healing is healing and given the fact that it is indeed technology
>connecting all us humans in this forum....
Well.. yes and no.. the technology carries the words, the zaps are handled
by Goddess.. redirected thru the lighthouse.. so they don't mess up the
technology. :) Seamlessly, so no-one notices..
The lighthouse is representation of the energy collective of the
cyberspace community.
>. i suggest we be equally
>respectful, kind and loving toward ALL things around us. :)
Goddess is All that Is..but sometimes it is kind to slap someone upside
da head, if they are comatose or hysterical. Happens to be my specialty..;)
You are new, so you don't know that one aspect of the harmony, is because
the list is managed by a Professional Dominatrix.. Me. :) Hee hee... I
manage the list with a very light hand, most of the time.
>enjoying the peace among the people here.....and the freedom to share
It is the beauty of the Garden, that causes the Dragon guarding it to
roar fiercely, sometimes.
#1 reason folks unsubscribe, often with regrets, is the weight of
bandwidth this list generates. So it makes sense for me to be occasionally
poking folks who thoughtlessly waste this precious resource, by double
posting, reposting bounce messages, not snipping, and off topic postings.
Weeding the garden maintains it's beauty.
>Thank you to the people who emailed me as well. i am so happy to be part
>of this group. It just feels good.
>
Well, we are delighted to have you here, Jane.. be welcome, gentle soul.
If you need more info, feel free to write to me at
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Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 16:07:26 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Double Posts:End of thread!!
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At 11:01 PM 23/08/98 +0000, Paul West wrote:
>> Don't mind me, I'm Bipolar woman every August... that's K for ya..>
>
>you're using that as an excuse Angelique.
You're right. Bitchiness doesn't need a reason. I AM a hag.
Fuck you very much for pointing that out to me. :)
Blessings, Mystress.
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 14:25:43 -1000 (HST)
From: irene longanecker <zoanerATnospamaol.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
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I have been experiencing many changes...most interestingly, the feeling on the top of my head (crown chackra area) that water is dripping on my head...i feel for it, it feels so real...i can't believe it isn't actually wet!!! i also look in the mirror to check also...this feeling usually comes when i am doing 'healings"...pranic/reiki, whatever you like to call it. :o) when i am having the deep feelings of unconditional love and compassion...i am wondering if this an 'annointing' and if anybody else has felt this particular sign...also..i had an experience at night, dreamlike but real...that fire was ripping through my body..up the chackras...husband says i get really really hot at night at times...i feel this also when awake...feels good, an inner warmth, burning...not uncomfortable...any responses will be appreciated and welcome...
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 20:43:09 -0500
From: jane <bigeyesATnospammindspring.com>
To: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Thank you.....
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>.....sometimes it is kind to slap someone upside
>da head, if they are comatose or hysterical. Happens to be my specialty..;)
>You are new, so you don't know that one aspect of the harmony, is because
>the list is managed by a Professional Dominatrix.. Me. :) Hee hee... I
>manage the list with a very light hand, most of the time.
With all due respect, Mystress, just because someone is new to this list
does not make them new to the energy or harmony you refer to.
> Well, we are delighted to have you here, Jane.. be welcome, gentle soul.
Thank you.
jane
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 17:46:37 PDT
From: "Pure Heart" <pure_heartATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, zoanerATnospamaol.com
Subject: 'Kundalini Feelings'
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I'll give you my very humble 2 cents, as my 'Kundalini feelings'
have been present from birth, but they've never been 'dramatic'
like folks here seem to have.
Insofar as any 'non-life disrupting' feelings, I would just relax!
A big danger on the 'path' is to become enamored with any 'psychic
feelings'.
Heck, I get this tickling or burning feeling at the top of my head,
I get a feeling of fire in various parts of my body, etc, but
unless there is pain, just relax! Breathe slowly from the bottom
of your stomache, a nice nature walk would be nice too.
Trying to 'meditate your way out of it could be harmful' as the
living being within the earth has a plan for this energy, and your
human will won't be able to affect it, as your 'greater will' is
communicating with the 'earths will'; you are just a bystander.
If things are really more than is comfortable for you, you might
consider picking up "Light Emerging" by Barbara Brennan and
aligning your line of intention; this should help you.
A lesser possiblity is that one of the 'lurkers in the prana' is
trying to excite you, and thus feed off your energies.
This can only happen if you have a rip in the close in aura,
especially if you are hanging onto a trauma of some sort.
Its hard to see ones own aura clearly, so you might visit a healer
to see if a tear exists; if a frozen space-time segment is at heart,
if you have a flailing bioplasmic streamer or some such.
Lastly, I'd give you a very serious suggestion; you might be taking
your 'spiritual path' too seriously; anything that is held onto
clingingly will eventually cause a disfunction; we were meant to
be free spirits; look at the mess we've made of ourselves and our
planet by 'clinging'.
Peace to you sister,
Kevin
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>I have been experiencing many changes...most interestingly, the feeling
on the top of my head (crown chackra area) that water is dripping on my
head...i feel for it, it feels so real...i can't believe it isn't
actually wet!!! i also look in the mirror to check also...this feeling
usually comes when i am doing 'healings"...pranic/reiki, whatever you
like to call it. :o) when i am having the deep feelings of unconditional
love and compassion...i am wondering if this an 'annointing' and if
anybody else has felt this particular sign...also..i had an experience
at night, dreamlike but real...that fire was ripping through my body..up
the chackras...husband says i get really really hot at night at
times...i feel this also when awake...feels good, an inner warmth,
burning...not uncomfortable...any responses will be appreciated and
welcome...
>
>
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Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 23:41:14 EDT
From: MoonrisempATnospamaol.com
To: ZoanerATnospamaol.com
Subject: Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
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Irene,
I also get the burning sensation. it is not unpleasant at all. I am a
bodyworker and Reiki Master and I feel that helps me. When i pay attention and
ground my energy with the Reiki to the Earth, I feel much better and centered.
I have not had the awakenings that others have described. I have a gentle k
energy most of the time.
I have gotten up in the middle of the night and had the bed feel like I had
just ironed the sheets. Hot, dry heat. I have the heat run through me
sometimes for long periods of time. Once for 8 days. I was visiting a friend
in AZ and thought she kept her house too hot. I did not know until the 9th day
that it was really cold and I was freezing. I also get that too. I will heat
up for a few hours and then freeze! I think it is clearing blocks at that
time. Being a bodyworker and I also teach chakra cleansing/balancing and that
seems to help. I am not afraid of it and look at it with curiosity!
Hope this helps.
Barbara
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 23:39:57 -0700
From: geoffrey33ATnospamjuno.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: More talk about the swirling funnel.
Message-ID: <19980823.233959.3246.0.Geoffrey33ATnospamjuno.com>
Jan and others,
I often have the crawling ants on the top of the head sensation and
the "ringing of the spheres" type sound is always with me, but I know
that there is more. Gabriel Cousins discusses the swirling funnel in the
crown sensation in his book "Spiritual Nutrition and the Rainbow Diet".
It has a very good account of a k awakening. He discusses the k as
having three "knots". The base(the initial awakening), the heart(when
the heart opens), and the third eye/crown opening. The swirling funnel
started for him sometime after the third opening and became constant
after a 40 day fast.
Over half of the journey is a question of purity. The goal being
to remove any resistance held in the mental, emotional, and spiritual
bodies. I would say the second most important part is a will to push
forward to the next level. This seems to stop so many people. Thirdly,
vitality is important. That is why when k awakens at an early age people
often have miraculous powers.
Many systems are self limiting. Like in Enochian magic the limit is
the first aethyr, you can't go beyond that in that system. In Buddhism
you have "arrived" when you become a buddha. That is why I like Alice
Bailey. The achievable goal is much higher. My point is, I don't think
that an awakened k expressing herself though the crown is the final goal.
At the very least, there must be many levels of this. I would
appreciate any info in that direction.
Blessings to all,
Geoffrey
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Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 03:28:35 EDT
From: F19AshATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: owwwwwwwie!
Message-ID: <5109c272.35e11624ATnospamaol.com>
hi everyone...i tripped over a curb on the road tonite, sprained my ankle,
banged up my knee. Can you please pray for me or do some sort of healing
ritual? My ankle is really swelled up and hurts, esp. when i walk. Its
amazing on how much the little things about our bodies mean so much when we
cant use them properly.
emily (M)
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