1998/08/21 10:18
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #579
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 579
Today's Topics:
Re: Re: try again.... [ Marybeth Gottshall <kmgATnospamtaconic.net ]
re-try again [ Maureen Heffernan <morlightATnospammhonlin ]
Re: Aura [ Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com ]
Snake Dreams etc. [ flute <FluteATnospamcreate.org> ]
Terri [ flute <FluteATnospamcreate.org> ]
Eclipse [ flute <FluteATnospamcreate.org> ]
Re: Aura [ Marybeth Gottshall <kmgATnospamtaconic.net ]
EYES [ flute <FluteATnospamcreate.org> ]
Re: Kundalini Yoga? [ "Wonderer" <mrtn74aATnospamprodigy.com> ]
Re: kundalini??? [ nancy <nancyATnospamwtp.net> ]
Re: Immortality [ David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net> ]
Shaking [ flute <FluteATnospamcreate.org> ]
Re: Shock , can it be a good thing? [ hbarrettATnospamix.netcom.com (Holly N. Ba ]
Aging [ flute <FluteATnospamcreate.org> ]
Awakening [ flute <FluteATnospamcreate.org> ]
Unidentified subject! [ geoffrey33ATnospamjuno.com ]
Re: Kundalini Yoga? [ "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon. ]
a cool thing happened :) [ "janpa tsomo" <j_tsomoATnospamhotmail.com> ]
Re: Unidentified subject! [ Marybeth Gottshall <kmgATnospamtaconic.net ]
quote [ kyira_korriganATnospamdynapro.com (Kyira K ]
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 98 07:52:28 -0500
From: Marybeth Gottshall <kmgATnospamtaconic.net>
To: <LadyOStarsATnospamaol.com>
cc: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Re: try again....
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To expand just a tiny bit -- quoting from "How to Know God, The Yoga
Aphorisms of Patanjali" translated and with commentary by Swami
Prabhavananda and Christopher Isherwood, The first Yoga Sutra says:
1. This is the beginning of the instruction in yoga.
Basically, yoga means "union." It is the Sanskrit ancestor of the English
word "yoke." Hence, it comes to mean a method of spiritual union. A yoga
is a method -- any one of many -- by which an individual may become
united with the Godhead, the Reality which underlies this apparent,
ephemeral univers. To achieve such union is to reach the state of perfect
yoga. Christianity has a corresponding term, "the mystic union," which
expresses a similar idea....
One who practices yoga is called a *yogi.*
Marybeth
>Subject: Re: Re: try again....
>Sent: 8/21/98 6:33 AM
>Received: 8/21/98 7:30 AM
>From: LadyOStarsATnospamaol.com
>To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
>
>Sorry if i confused people with my use of the word
>"Yoga" I was not using it to refer to the physical exercises
>usually associated with the term... but may more acurately
>meaning "union"... or the meditation aspect of Yoga...
>
>which is present in all cultures, not just Hindu....
>
>= )
>LadyOStars
>
>
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 08:13:00 +0000
From: Maureen Heffernan <morlightATnospammhonline.net>
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: re-try again
Message-ID: <35DD2C0C.892EB9B1ATnospammhonline.net>
Hi Marybeth,
Basically, yoga means "union." It is the Sanskrit ancestor of the
English
word "yoke." Hence, it comes to mean a method of spiritual union.
"My burden is easy and my yoke is light", the Master Jesus.Found that
interesting.
More Light.
+ Maureen
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 08:50:23 EDT
From: Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com
To: sciATnospamnde.vsnl.net.in, TAvalonATnospamtexas.net
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Aura
Message-ID: <c709fd5a.35dd6d10ATnospamaol.com>
In a message dated 8/20/1998 4:55:40 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
sciATnospamnde.vsnl.net.in writes:
<< With regards,
Ms. Seema,
1st year student Psychology,
Reiki Master and
Disciple of one who senses aura and cures incurable and chronic dis-eases
with the help of Cosmic Beam Therapy >>
Harsha: What about kidney bean therapy? Has anyone ever tried it? It can
propel you (rocket you!) to higher levels. It is a gas. :--). Begging for
forgiveness in advance.
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 07:52:13 -0500
From: flute <FluteATnospamcreate.org>
To: "kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Snake Dreams etc.
Message-ID: <35DD6D7D.4904ATnospamcreate.org>
Many of you might be having dreams of late and going forward into the
weekend. The Snake is transformation. The symbolism is related to
shedding the skin. A Renewal.
There is an eclipse beginning today that is in 28 Degrees Leo. It seems
this is a transformation Eclipse and the symbol of this is a mermaid
coming out of the water and transforming. If you have signs in Leo (as
Clinton does) then you might see some really interesting things
happening. At the very least "Dreams" that will give you messages.. pay
attention to them..
Love,
flute (Moon in Leo)
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 07:56:34 -0500
From: flute <FluteATnospamcreate.org>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Terri
Message-ID: <35DD6E82.1790ATnospamcreate.org>
Terri,
I believe your Hubby was initiated into Reiki about that time.. Reiki is
an enlightment.. chuckle.. Which I have come to realize is a Western
Word for Kundalini rising.
Love and smiles (so did you get any lobster? real type ones not Jason :)
flute
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 08:03:55 -0500
From: flute <FluteATnospamcreate.org>
To: "kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Eclipse
Message-ID: <35DD703B.F83ATnospamcreate.org>
AND.. more about the Eclipse.. IF you are Leo and were born in 55 or
56.. that places Pluto in Leo for the eclipse.. If you haven't had
Kundalni Rise before you will very very soon.. maybe this weekend. If
you already are k awakwned and have Sag in some planets or rising, then
you are probably having some endings to some disasters that have been
happening in your life for the past 3 years. (pluto moved from Scorpio
into Sag. three years ago) For the next two or three days.. STAY away
from Drugs and Alchol. There is a danger here. Go spiritual and meditate
for the messages on how to change your life. It should be changing for
the good.
flute
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 98 09:00:16 -0500
From: Marybeth Gottshall <kmgATnospamtaconic.net>
To: <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com>
cc: <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: Aura
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Harsha,
This made me laugh so hard that I started crying. Thanks -- I needed that!
Marybeth
>Harsha: What about kidney bean therapy? Has anyone ever tried it? It can
>propel you (rocket you!) to higher levels. It is a gas. :--). Begging for
>forgiveness in advance.
>
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 08:11:48 -0500
From: flute <FluteATnospamcreate.org>
To: "kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: EYES
Message-ID: <35DD7214.2B17ATnospamcreate.org>
Flutter, ask a question of the eyes. What was your impression of them.
Were they gentle, waiting or teaching. This is a guide of some sort. If
it seemed to pass by you on your left, its a teacher. On your right,
its a message for you to do something.. Using your will. Ask to see the
eyes again and dont' be afraid.. you will learn things.
My first guide appeared as golden eyes. as I looked at them in wonder, a
wolf appeared.. It just looked at me and I felt a sort of comfort. Then
it moved to my left and the goldish/white fur seemed to brush my arm. I
named Him Autumn Shadow. I found that this is a guide/teacher and a
protector. The wolf is a guardian and a family oriented animal.
Eyes are "windows of the soul" <G> somebody's quote but I don't remember
whose. This is a very good thing to see in a dream. Very Good.. When I
do Reiki Initiations some will see or feel eyes.. They usually turn out
to be very special people.
Flute
http://www.create.org/healingarts
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 09:21:37 -0400
From: "Wonderer" <mrtn74aATnospamprodigy.com>
To: "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>, <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Kundalini Yoga?
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Interesting. Since Yoga is the path that brought me to kundalini, I
genuinely could not fathom your statement. I guess we both learned.
What is behind your interest in kundalini?
Cathy
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From: Paul West <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Date: Thursday, August 20, 1998 6:32 PM
Subject: Re: Kundalini Yoga?
>> Paul, why does discussion of Yoga seem so off topic to you?
>>
>> Pardon me, as I am obviously Clueless???
>
>Please continue to discuss yoga and anything to your hearts content.
>You are so beautiful I don't think anything you do could be wrong.
>
>;-)
>
>I shouldn't have been so harsh. It was strange but I had a very deep
>dream this morning in which I had a false awakening. I thought this
>meant something had gone terribly wrong. But without really going
>anywhere everything is just fine now. I was just unsure wether
>somewhere there might be an advertisment for this list saying that
it
>was to do with yoga.
>
>--
>Paul.
>
>IRC: #amiga, Dalnet: #blitz
>WWW: http://www.stationone.demon.co.uk
>E-M: paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk
>
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 07:26:53 -0600
From: nancy <nancyATnospamwtp.net>
To: "alex,arie&janet" <arieATnospamihug.co.nz>, kundalini-1 <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: kundalini???
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> Hi I'm Alex and I'm new to this mailing list.....I'm wondering how do I
> knowwhether my kundalini has awaken or not.....
Hi Alex. Welcome! Here is a site that may be of use to you:
http://hmt.com/kundalini/kundalini-faq.html
> all I know is that I have
> experience some of the sings and someone has activate my cakra 3 years
> ago.....Sometime I wake up during my sleep but I can't move my body then
> either I saw something or hear rigging sound, but I cannot control any of
> this.....
I know others have had similar experiences with ringing who could probably
share their experiences with you.
> Can someone tell whether my kundalini has awaken or not?
> If not what is the best way to awaken it or can actually someone do it for
> me? And how do I take control of this things that happening so I can use it
> for something good instead of meaning nothing?
There are people who can provide shatipat to you which can awaken you. From my
understanding, a touch, a look, the energy from someone who is spiritually
advanced can zap your awakening. I haven't experienced it myself, but again,
others on the list have.
In my opinion, the best way to allow yourself to awaken is to try to eliminate
control, fear, clinging to the way life used to be. I did this a lot (still do
sometimes) and it causes pain. I think we gain control by surrendering our
control to the divine.
Awakening never results in nothing. You will discover what your something is
when appropriate.
Nancy
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 09:38:49 -0400
From: David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net>
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Immortality
Message-ID: <35DD7869.5DA01B67ATnospammail.snet.net>
Carrea wrote:
> Would you not say that each time you push, to that point where it seems "if
> you completely let go you will die", that when you come back, - the next
> time you will try it -, a greater part of you body could die, will be abble
> to die, in the next attempt.
I don't feel there is any harm in deep meditative states. Do you?Just on rare
occasion does it seem there might be no return to the physical.
I don't know if that's actually the case. But no one can become free and leave
anyone else behind. Why? Because Everyone is with Us. : )
> Some are said to have their body burn into ashes from pushing this game to
> it's razor edge. Others call it evolution of the species. Others did come
> back...
I wouldn't know. Still here. : )
> You must love the world very deeply David, to feel you can explore those
> limits, i admire that in you.
Isn't our purpose in the world to explore our limits and transcend them?The
world is our reflection. I am attached to that reflection.
We'll get over that.
When we're ready.
It's an issue of surrendering our intent into the Greater Intent.
What do you *really* want?
(be honest)
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 08:31:17 -0500
From: flute <FluteATnospamcreate.org>
To: "kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Shaking
Message-ID: <35DD76A5.37FATnospamcreate.org>
Shaking? Vibrations is the term I think.. You seem to be vibrating
right?
That happenes to me as well. I thought at first that there
was something medical going on. However I could control the
vibrations by either being in a meditative state or not being
in a meditative state. I think they are called Kyrias in Yoga.
I first noticed them when another person helping me with a Reiki
session told me about it. She said.. You seem to be shaking..
Then I watched.. and its not a realtime shaking, its like a small motor,
the shaking is even and steady.
I recently did an initiation on a woman, when I put her hands
together at the end of the attunement.. WE both were vibrating to such a
degree she was sitting with her mouth open and gasping at the event. It
was wild.. not the usualy gentle vibration but a heavy duty, extremely
intense type like an drill.
I've also noticed when I meditate, sometimes I find myself moving in
a circle of vibration. (I sit up to meditate) And the sound Aum.. causes
the same type of vibrations in the back of my throat, tickling to the
point of being almost unbearable.
flute
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 08:36:27 -0500 (CDT)
From: hbarrettATnospamix.netcom.com (Holly N. Barrett, Ph.D.)
To: "Kat" <KcliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Shock , can it be a good thing?
Message-Id: <199808211336.IAA01396ATnospamdfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com>
In the early days of my k-awakening, my best friend died, my husband
left me for another woman, my mother died and my house was wrecked by
an earthquake. I was SO stubborn, it took that much pain to open me up
to a new life. For me, yes, shock could be a good thing, even a
miraculous thing. I send love and blessings and many prayers. Holly
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 08:47:32 -0500
From: flute <FluteATnospamcreate.org>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Aging
Message-ID: <35DD7A74.188CATnospamcreate.org>
David. While I understand your Programming. Western mind is like that..
concrete and logical. The question is not from the ego that grasps onto
the things of this reality.
But look at all the cells in the body being totally changed in 7 years.
This is scientifically true. SO why do we age? I know a person that is
only 60, that has complained about pain and being old since he was 30..
Consequently, this person was Totally gray at the age of 32. There is
another that doesn't even think about age and is much to busy to focus
their attention on how they look.. and the 50 yr old looks 30. Is it
just DNA or is there something else involved. In an isolated part of
Russia where there has been a different programming there are people
that defy the standard thoughts of how a person at a certain age should
act. There are 100 year old people tending the gardens. These people are
healthy and look like our 60 yr olds. WHY? Check different cultures and
see how the aging process is different.
Your mind is a powerful thing and just possibly we have accepted this
reality and programming.
No I am not afraid and I don't want to NOT transend or transfer over..
giggling.. "death" is not the issue. Death is an evolution into another
reality. There is a specific Guru in India that is said to still have
form when he wishes. "Babaji"
So the thought is this. Do we decide on this form and then destroy it as
we evolve into a better place? The American Indians use to have a ritual
where when they decided it was time to go.. They went on a mountain and
meditated into the realm of no form or.. No Thing. <G>
Is it possible that we can will our transition? Is it possibe we do
anyway but unconsciousnessly.
flute
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 09:29:01 -0500
From: flute <FluteATnospamcreate.org>
To: "kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Awakening
Message-ID: <35DD842D.51DAATnospamcreate.org>
In Astrology, the awakening of the kundalini seems to relate to a Pluto
and or a Chiron transit. The average age of Kundalini awakening (Unless
it is blocked) is around 42. Some initiate it earlier, some later. Some
need a master to be guided thru it. Some think they are going crazy or
have some terrible dis-ease. Many are blocked and never let it happen.
When the time comes the teacher will be there.. and the teacher doesn't
have to be a physical entity.
--
flute
http://www.create.org/healingarts
"The same stream of life that runs through my veins night and day runs
through the world and dances in rhythmic measures." R. Tagore
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 09:39:34 -0700
From: geoffrey33ATnospamjuno.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Unidentified subject!
Message-ID: <19980821.093934.4062.0.Geoffrey33ATnospamjuno.com>
Hi Jan,
I found what you said very interesting. I did have an experience in
meditation of extreme fear(loss of the personality) but did not link it
to k, so I'm not sure if it is the same. What I did experience was a
pulsing, swirling funnel in my crown(it would pulse with my heart beat)
for about three weeks about a year ago. It was as if the top of my head
was missing. During this time my energy level was always high and it
seemed the only reason to eat was to maintain my weight, not for energy.
The pulsing would be at night ,while I meditated, and other times. It
was fairly loud. Then it left and hasn't returned. Is this what it
feels like when k is expressing herself through the crown? Please tell
me more. What is it like?
Most books I've read don't talk about it like it should be some kind
of secret suprise, but this is an age where secrets are revealed. I
have included the forum this time because I think others will be
interested as well.
Blessings to all,
Geoffrey
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Date: 21 Aug 98 15:57:31 +0000
From: "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Kundalini Yoga?
Message-Id: <OUT-35DD976C.MD-1.0.paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
Wonderer,
> Interesting. Since Yoga is the path that brought me to kundalini, I
> genuinely could not fathom your statement. I guess we both learned.
> What is behind your interest in kundalini?
I am not sure that I have an interest in kundalini. It's not like a
topic that I'm interested in, it's not like for example the paranormal
that you can have an interest in. When something comes along and does
all sorts of things to your body mind and soul it isn't the sort of
thing that I would call an interest. It's not for me like discovering
about some scientific principle or some culture. I don't have an
interest behind kundalini. It is a relationship with a reality. I
wouldn't exactly say to myself that my relationship to other people is
just some hobby. It's more than that. Not that I am not interested in
it and in other people but it's not an interest itself. The interest
isn't more important than the actual thing, if you get what I mean.
To be honest I don't even know that I have kundalini. I am always
questioning that. And often I find that such questioning and making of
it not an issue is the very processes by which it works and by which
it makes it possible for itself to work further. Being prone to
emotions I have lots of sensations which I might mistake for kundalini
activity. When I take a crap I get tingles on the top of my head, and
I don't think that's kundalini ;-) Or when I hear a song reaching a
climax I sort of experience tingles in various parts of the body
especially my head. It's an emotion thing. I think kundalini energy is
of a much higher order than that, in that it can do things which have
much more general characteristics like express trains and waves and
directions of motion and whirlwinds and massaging fingers and so on,
which is somewhat different to a cloud of euphoria.
Even despite having had many k symptoms that I cannot explain as being
anything else, and despite there being many people here who
demonstrate similar things, I still do not know that there is such a
thing as a concrete proof that it is happening to me. Something is
happening and its doing stuff and things are becoming of me as a
result but I think the /idea/ of kundalini and being involved in it is
less of a reality that what actually takes place. I don't feel like
I'm really part of the group or that I belong to a sort of room or
pocket in which like-minded people exist wrapped up in the romance of
the thing. I feel like an outsider in all of this. The kundalini
things are so personal and so much working on me, and I have no
experience of it working on anybody I know. Even if I did I would
still experience the k as very direct and not having a go-between or
reference point. I do not feel part of the `k club' or like I'm in the
same boat. There are similarities for sure but the similarities are
not greater than the subjective quality of the experience. I mean,
some people are very euphoric about finding the list and about being
here with these nice people and there are some nice, genuine people
here, but I don't really feel that about k. I have never told anyone
face to face that it hs ever happened to me or ever really felt the
need to. It's personal, you know. Even if it does happen to others it
is personal for them. I am not aware of having asked for it to happen
it just started out of the blue. Maybe I asked on a higher level but
the person I think I am is not aware of that.
I did a very small bit of joya this morning to wake me up. I do it
very occasionally when I haven't done it for a long time and so doing
it is as though the first time. I don't generally have enough
responsibility for defending myself to keep to such a disciplin so I
guess I admire that you are able. I don't think this is some
playground with a bunch of kids getting all excited about something
that is happening to them. It's deeper than that as you must know.
When things get rough this is a comforting place to be, whatever the
appearance, and as you might have seen a few people gave me a seeing
to just recently which I think was perfectly justified on mostly all
counts. When it comes from people who you know better than that you
know it isn't a maliceful thing, despite the constant rebirthing of my
dilemmas.
So I didn't come to kundalini through a disciplin like yoga as you
did. I wasn't in the sort of frame of mind to be already persuing
spiritual avenues when it all started. Or maybe I just didn't
recognise the symptoms. It wasn't very pleasant to start with. Despite
all that I still don't think I quite grasp the importance of this. I'm
still gunna need some more slaps. Maybe I'll take to a disciplin at
some stage. I have been feeling that something of mine, that is me, is
something more worth defending, that it is precious and worth dying
for, and therefore worth living for. But the feeling isn't constant
enough yet and there is still a lot of confusion and doubt and
deception. I don't have the seriousness to approach spirituality along
serious paths of inquiry into religions and spiritual traditions and
anchient ways. Maybe it'll happen later in life when I have more
courage.
--
Paul.
IRC: #amiga, Dalnet: #blitz
WWW: http://www.stationone.demon.co.uk
E-M: paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 08:48:30 PDT
From: "janpa tsomo" <j_tsomoATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: a cool thing happened :)
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i was at a Beastie Boys concert gathering signatures for the Milarepa
Fund. One young woman was leaning over my clipboard signing her name and
i could feel her brow chakra's spin and my own spinning with a commen
heat. also my heart center fired and started spinning.
i had the impulse to put my forehead to hers in blessing gesture. i
think i met someone i used to know :). i didnt do this however, we were
in the middle of a huge crowd of people, and i got shy.
it was kinda funny, kinda cool.
maitri,
--janpa
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Date: Fri, 21 Aug 98 11:47:39 -0500
From: Marybeth Gottshall <kmgATnospamtaconic.net>
To: <geoffrey33ATnospamjuno.com>
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Subject: Re: Unidentified subject!
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Hi, Geoffrey-
I have experienced a similar sensation, but never when I meditate. Quite
often, as I am going to sleep I can feel pulsing, vibrations working
their way up my body, from the bottom chakra up through the heart chakra.
Then sometimes I awaken a little while later and feel a spinning
vibration in my head. I compare it to a prayer wheel or a gyroscope,
because it seems to be slightly off balance. It seems to be at a rate of
at least twice per heartbeat. It also has felt like the top of my head
had opened up and there have been some other unusual sounds associated
with it, like humming and a sound that I can only compare to the
vibration of a huge metal gong as it dies down, only constant, not fading
out. But it has never been constant, as you descibed.
Marybeth
You wrote:
>What I did experience was a
>pulsing, swirling funnel in my crown(it would pulse with my heart beat)
>for about three weeks about a year ago. It was as if the top of my head
>was missing. During this time my energy level was always high and it
>seemed the only reason to eat was to maintain my weight, not for energy.
>The pulsing would be at night ,while I meditated, and other times. It
>was fairly loud. Then it left and hasn't returned. Is this what it
>feels like when k is expressing herself through the crown? Please tell
>me more. What is it like?
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 09:11:31 -0700
From: kyira_korriganATnospamdynapro.com (Kyira Korrigan - DTI,MF)
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I've re-read the article from which this is excerpted several times, and
plan on one or two more. It's great! It also seems relevant to several of
the discussions going on right now.
-Kyira
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>From "When Kali Comes to Call" from the July issue of Yoga International,
by Robert Svoboda
Shakti is power, energy in both its dynamic and static forms (we know its
static form better as "matter"). Every imaginable thing and action in the
universe arises from, exists in, and eventually returns to the the
primordial shakti pool....Shakti makes possible both self-awareness and
self-hood, for it is her nature to self-identify.
Chit Shakti (the power of consiousness or subjectivity) identifies with
the Unmanifested Absolute; and Maya Shakti (the power of unconsciousness
or objectivity ) identifies with the world, the manifestation of the
Absolute. The two Shaktis cannot exist without one another....Unity and
duality exist in every human simultaneously, the One pervading the All
and the All defining the One. Intelligence and sensation arise wherever
chit shakti predominates, and ignorance and insensibility lead wherever
maya rules. The more you identify with your individuality, your
microcosm, the more your shakti will function as your own personal maya
and the less she will relefct awareness fo the macrocosm. As you identify
less with your individuality you free your self-identifying power to
reflect more of the reality of unalloyed consciousness, to increase her
awareness of the One....So long as your personal shakti busies itself
predominantly with creating and reinforcing your limited human
personality by self-identifying with your physical and mental attributes
we call it ahamkara (ego).
At the base of the subtle spinal cord in the subtle body lies the
residual shakti of individuation, an energy which remains unavailable to
the individiaul so long as his or her consiousness remains firmly
entrenched in the mundane. This energy is our personal fragment of the
cosmic power of self-identification. When ahamkara begins to awaken from
its "sleep" of self-delusion it takes on a new a new name: kundalini.
Ahamkara connotes maya shakti, and kundalini connotes chit shakti.
Ahamkara and kundalini are two forms of the same power, manifested in
different directions for opposing purposes.
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