1998/08/17 21:51
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #572
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 572
Today's Topics:
Re: Fear (Kristen) [ "guy johnson" <tantriciskATnospamhotmail.c ]
:)))) [ jane <bigeyesATnospammindspring.com> ]
Re: aura? Third eye opening. [ melintonATnospamalison.sbc.edu ]
Re: :)))) [ GISLENNEATnospamaol.com ]
Re: :)))) [ "carrea" <carreaATnospamvideotron.ca> ]
Re: :)))) [ Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iis ]
Re: DIY brainwave synchronizer [ "Evelyn Niedbalec" <log_me_inATnospamhotma ]
AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Cen [ Ravindran Raman <pathmaATnospamtm.net.my> ]
Re: aura? Third eye opening. [ "jim privacy" <jprivacyATnospamhotmail.com ]
spindown [ "janpa tsomo" <j_tsomoATnospamhotmail.com> ]
feeling kinda crazy [ "janpa tsomo" <j_tsomoATnospamhotmail.com> ]
love... vs... love.. [ "Sessions, JoAnn F. (Artco)" <jases ]
Re: feeling kinda crazy [ "Sharon Webb" <shawebbATnospamyhc.edu> ]
RE: DIY brainwave synchronizer [ "jb" <janbarenATnospaminfase.es> ]
Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource [ Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iis ]
Possibly off subject, but I am not s [ "Brandon" <brandonATnospamwebpower.com> ]
Re: feeling kinda crazy [ Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com ]
Re: Possibly off subject, but I am n [ Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com ]
Re: Possibly off subject, but I am n [ "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon. ]
Re: Possibly off subject, but I am n [ Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iis ]
Re: Possibly off subject, but I am n [ "carrea" <carreaATnospamvideotron.ca> ]
Re: Possibly off subject, but I am n [ "jim privacy" <jprivacyATnospamhotmail.com ]
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 05:42:35 PDT
From: "guy johnson" <tantriciskATnospamhotmail.com>
To: WEIVODAATnospamaol.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Fear (Kristen)
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Kristin writes:
So I tried to focus on one thing, the only
thing I really felt I had in my life, and that was skiing, but as I did
that I
realized I was hiding again, and other fears got brought back up.
Ski racing is a model, a format in which you are free (or not) to grow.
We all have our particular attachments for these rich places where we
are challenged to shift, or view ourselves in another way, or find
clarity about why we even exist. Your statement above clinches what I
had tried to impart, but perhaps didn't explain well: when we find
ourselves at that place of nothing, without our defining role in place
and strong, we are always presented the opportunity to view the
circumstances from a new perspective. Personally, I know the joy and
exhilaratioin you describe is real, but the price you pay by achieving
it and ignoring your body's messages may be greater than you realize.
All our knowledge is contained in our cells, and they don't speak out
without reason. Mastering the threshold of pain which might interfere
with your performance and/or experience of adrenaline, etc, may also
allow you to move through the other parts of your world without feeling
what your body is trying to say also. This can be a very lonely place.
And when I was in it, my ability to discern about people and their
intentions toward me was nonexistent. This detachment led me into many
painful interactions and relationships. I perceived my body was a tool,
which I had superior ability to manipulate for my own desires. (that
feeling of adrenaline that makes me feel, more than I feel in my
non-competing space, that convinces me I do exist, I do have power.)
However, that sensation is limited to the few moments of actual
competition (not more than a couple of minutes, maybe an hour if you
include slipping and hanging out at the start), and the rest, the
training, the travel, the social and, in your case, the healing, is
judged to be less than, lacking, filled with fear, and self doubt. We
challenge you to bring your awareness of your capacity to experience
your heightened state into your everyday endeavors. For these moments
are your life, are you, just as much as the time on the hill is. Your
greatness there, in your element, can also apply to the more mundane
parts of your day. There is where your choice lies: to integrate what
you know, to allow yourself to stop overvaluing those moments of
enormous risk-taking, and to allow the deep value of your body's
inherent knowledge about why you are here, is what is requested. You
are absolutely perfect and you have all the answers to your questions.
You will probably not find them if you have to disown your body to
satisfy some more obvious, but less meaningful motive. I would never
ask you to hang up your skis, but I would ask you how that environment
allows or hinders your ability to thrive as a whole person. Sorry Paul,
I wanted to give kristin a break, too. Just thought this was important.
with much love and compassion, katrina
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Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 09:02:42 -0500
From: jane <bigeyesATnospammindspring.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: :))))
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Please bear with me...... as i effuse. You all have no
idea....well....maybe you do.....i have tears in my whole being as i type
this.... tears of emotion....not sad or any label....i am just full.... of
all....of you....and this list is such a gift. i have been part of so many
different things (and will continue) , i venture out, i explore, i go to my
fears, i speak..... in that i get much negative back..... and then...i
stumble upon this. And....thank you!!!!! for being here with your open
minds and ears and a connecting thread that is beautiful. i am simply
bathing in it for now. i dont even need to speak. Except to know you
exist.....and just as i am guided by my Bear and Snake spirits (one day i
will share those stories) so has KundalininList showed me the beauty of a
group. Beauty of openness. And THAT is love.
Thank you.
just jane
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 09:14:13 -0400
From: melintonATnospamalison.sbc.edu
To: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: aura? Third eye opening.
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Hi Mystress!
How funny that this thread is beginning here. I spent the weekend working
to clear the 2 negatives that Ms. Seema's friend in India saw at my throat.
Seems to be an issue with having, giving & receiving. In part to address
this problem, I cause myself now to puchase exactly what I want when giving
energy/money. In the past, I always avoided buying the thing I wanted. I
was trained that way by those well-intentioned depression-era parents of
mine. Its amusing to watch myself struggle with it ... but I'm ready to
release even the struggle soon and be at peace with giving and getting.
On Saturday I bought a nice matte for a print that was never framed
properly before. The matte was over $40. I paid, laying aside with effort
the patterned thoughts that I was taught to have in this kind of
transaction. In the car, as I left, I noticed my throat was tight but there
was a feeling of great energy pouring through. It was somewhat painful, but
I felt it was a partial opening there.
I did 2 self-hypnosis sessions addressing old scars that affect
self-expression and feelings of deprivation and being bereft. I believe
they were at least somewhat effective, because when I lay down to sleep
Saturday night I got the head-thunder effect the list was discussing a few
weeks ago. The first one sounded like a thick stick snapping. The second
one sounded like someone slapped the wall with a 2x4 (whip crack sound) and
the inside of my head lit up. Sunday night I took an hour's nap and dreamed
a huge python was lunging at me. It bit the inseam of my pants. I was
terrified it would eat me alive ...
Anyway, I'm rambling. I'll ask my question and close. I noticed a few years
ago that if I sit still and look *at* the air instead of through it I can
see what looks like snow falling, thick and fast in some locations --
scanty in others. For the first time this weekend I was successful at
seeing my aura around my left foot -- I did it by watching the "snow" first
and then easing my attention to an area just beyond the end of my toes.
Mystress, can you tell me anything about the "snow" that I'm seeing?
Thank you so much!
--signalfire
When you get what you want
you never want it again.
Go on take everything,
take everything,
I want you to.
Go on take everything,
take everything,
I dare you to.
--Hole
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 10:12:17 EDT
From: GISLENNEATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: :))))
Message-ID: <1b9b05ee.35d83a43ATnospamaol.com>
Hi Everyone
I just wanted to say that you have all been and continue to be a great help
to me and others.
I guess i have been going through Kundalini for quite sometime now, I guess
for a few yrs...Well its getting better and stronger, but I have learned to
tame it. Anyway spirit has been telling me to write a book on Kundalini, I am
aware that there are mny books out there on Kundalini, but there aren't many
that help show others what each individual is experiencing, on a personal
level.
When i first realized that i was experiencing Kundalini I was "Terrified"
because of all the talk about it, i was told by someone that "somewhere along
the lines the seed had been planted" I thought I was having the demon
child..and i don;t even believe in Satan!! That was enough to FREAK me out.!!
People told me I would go crazy , I would get really sick, etc... well I got
over all of that and realized I had nothing to fear except fear itself, with
the help of my guides and you guys and of course others I was able to Tame
Shakti, God/dess, Spirit whatever you want to call it. So now I have been
given the ability to share with others what WE are going through, i realize
that we are all practically going through the same things. So I want to write
a book to tell others "Look we are all in this together" here are others
stories and letters that they have written about their experiences with
Kundalini and that we are not nuts or going nuts..There is alot of fear out
there about Kundalini and I think the fear is what makes us nuts.. so can i
have all of your permission to include your letters in my book? I will change
your names of course or shall i say screen names and please send m a private
e-mail with your permission.. I thank you all if not for the permission than
for the wonderful letters to help me see that I am normal and that there are
many more going through this experience!!
love and Light..gislenne
<A HREF="http://www.gurlpages.com/spirit/gislenne/">"Raising Shakti"</A>
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 10:13:47 -0400
From: "carrea" <carreaATnospamvideotron.ca>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>, "jane" <bigeyesATnospammindspring.com>
Subject: Re: :))))
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>Thank you.
>
>just jane
>
All Jane,
You are beautiful
Thank you for being,
Antoine
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 21:25:35 +0530 (IST)
From: Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in>
To: jane <bigeyesATnospammindspring.com>
cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: :))))
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jane u r all love.
love and light,
anurag
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 09:47:17 PDT
From: "Evelyn Niedbalec" <log_me_inATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: DIY brainwave synchronizer
Message-ID: <19980817164718.22510.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
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It is my understanding that the Monroe Inst. tapes are much more
complex, having exact frequencies programmed for each objective, and
having been tested on hundreds of people before while they were
physiologically monitered, etc. So it would not be possible for the
average person to replicate them. But many people do like to fiddle
around with cool edit and it does provide a free alternative for those
who lack money more than they lack time.
-EVELYN
>There is nothing mysterious about tapes/CD's with sounds that can alter
>one's state of awareness. With a simple to use program like Cool Edit
(at
>http://www.syntrillium.com )
>you can make your own, probably at a much lower price.
>Happy tinkering with sound,
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Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 07:06:44 -1000 (HST)
From: Ravindran Raman <pathmaATnospamtm.net.my>
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Dear sir,..I have been practising meditation daily after my prayers and this has been my practice since few months now after stopping nearly for two years.During the meditation I concerntrate in the centre of my brow and chant mantra while breathing,I see bright light and when i concerntrate harder, I feel something rising from the neck and my whole head and body becomes stiff and shakey.When I'm just resting my heart beats harder as though I'm afraid of something and sometimes feel panic and my body feel hot like a wind sweeping inside....Why does this happen and is it normal in meditation practice...please advise.
Thank you......OM SIVAYA NAMAHA.
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 11:13:56 PDT
From: "jim privacy" <jprivacyATnospamhotmail.com>
To: melintonATnospamalison.sbc.edu
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: aura? Third eye opening.
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signalfire writes:
> Sunday night I took an hour's nap and dreamed
a huge python was lunging at me. It bit the inseam of my pants. I was
terrified it would eat me alive ...
Sounds like a classic kundalini dream. Yours appeared as a python
instead of a cobra, but close enough. Did it bite your root chakra? Next
time, let is swallow you whole!
Great sign, very positive.
Blessings!
Love, -Jim
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Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 12:48:32 PDT
From: "janpa tsomo" <j_tsomoATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: spindown
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spin down,
quiet now,
earth is full of sunset.
dream array
loads in REM
and reaches to the
night.
scatter-moon
and napping sun
illuminate the disk
of memory.
dance now,
fire singer,
the drum is in your hands
between your knees
you balance it,
keeping time with
ether.
it appears that
you are
only hands moving
rythm and still words.
but the earthmother
dances ground beneath
you.
tears form in both
your eyes,
as you sense
the ocean of maddness
and saddness
that tends to move
the timesands.
if they could only
hear your song,
they would know the way out...
but their ears are full
of
sound.
spindown.
--janpa tsomo
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Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 13:12:24 PDT
From: "janpa tsomo" <j_tsomoATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: feeling kinda crazy
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am i the only one who when they go to meditate sense a saddness? i had
this before and it led to a heart chakra-opening sorta. Its this sense
of something really wrong in the world. now the world is a bit screwy
at times...
the only thing that helps it is to keep going with the mantra or
whatever im doing. sending out lots of healing and light. that seems to
help it.
Lama Lodu Rinpoche said that bodhisattvas as they mature become more
sensitive to things. like eyes are sensitive to dust, and hands are not,
much more seems to come up and make one go "Oh, i didnt see *you*
before".
it tends to pass, but then will flare again. probably will work itself
to an equilibrium eventually.
the worst is when i get down myself over it. feeling all this saddness
makes me sad, and a little grumpy too. Altho the other day i was
practising a meditation with our Do Ngak Choling group and i felt an
incredible happiness too. the opposite of the sad.
feelings are not things to get attached too, but they are getting my
attention lately.
just kinda something maybe not really noteworthy...
maitri,
--janpa
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Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 15:24:33 -0500
From: "Sessions, JoAnn F. (Artco)" <jasessionsATnospamartco.zgate.com>
To: "'Post'" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: love... vs... love..
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I have deleted, whom this was originally from.... but I would love to hear
what you responces are. Please email me and let me know. This seems to be
an issue I am dealing with. I would also like to know what you think of
relationships between men and women in general.
ladychristos
----------
Dear friends,
After a few months of re-energizing the "religious" thoughts are
starting to flow again. (sounds like a personal problem). Here goes.
See what you think of this one.
There is a lot of wisdom in "pop" culture, but it's between the lines
and sometimes not intended. I'm talking about song lyrics here. Like
"if you can't be with the one you love, love the one you're with."
It's really quite a statement. Much more than it seems. I mean on the
surface, "Crosby, Still and Nash" are talking about sex, promoting the
idea of free love. But to me it means much more than that. Whether
they intended this or not it means that there is a practical component
to love that we often choose to ignore, that there is a human tendency
to be disatisfied with the present and immediate, to discount it and
turn it away in hopes that what is out there is better. That we're all
still holding out for that perfect mate or that perfect place, or the
perfect car and we're liable to be holding out for the rest of our
lives. Because even when we do find it, inevitably we find flaws with
it and go in search once more for perfection and then again and
again. Hmmmmm. But then again there's nothing wrong with trying to
find "Shangri-la" or achieving nirvana or satori or heaven or dreaming
"The Impossible Dream."
Oh shit here I go again arguing for contradictory perspectives. Which
is right? I don't know. That's why I started this religious thought.
Which is right? Maybe you guys can answer this one. "Is the grass not
always greener on the other side" or is it better to "go for it."
Something to liven up the synapsis.
Good to talk to all of you again.
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Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 20:26:15 -0400
From: "Sharon Webb" <shawebbATnospamyhc.edu>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: feeling kinda crazy
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Janpa wrote:
>am i the only one who when they go to meditate sense a saddness?
Last October I had a powerful meditation experience which brought me fully
into the realization of oneness with God. I _was_ God. I was All. There
was no other.
This left me with a profound sense of sadness and I cried for three
days---not because that feeling of oneness had left me, but because it
stayed. There was no other, you see, and I so much cherish otherness.
There was such a sense of Aloneness that it was very difficult to process.
It is only over the past three weeks that I can recall that episode and talk
about it without crying.
Love,
Sharon
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 01:35:37 +0100
From: "jb" <janbarenATnospaminfase.es>
To: "K. list" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: RE: DIY brainwave synchronizer
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Evelyn Niedbalec wrote:
>
> It is my understanding that the Monroe Inst. tapes are much more
> complex, having exact frequencies programmed for each objective, and
> having been tested on hundreds of people before while they were
> physiologically monitered, etc. So it would not be possible for the
> average person to replicate them. But many people do like to fiddle
> around with cool edit and it does provide a free alternative for those
> who lack money more than they lack time.
> -EVELYN
Any sound can be analyzed very quickly and exactly - by using an FFT (Fast
Fourier Transform), no tape/CD can hide anything. As long ago one of my
students was working on a brainwave monitor, I know that although 'natural'
frequencies will differ from person to person, all will synchronize to a
signal of average frequency, so it is easy to make and DIY-ing can be even
faster than shopping.
Jan
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 05:58:08 +0530 (IST)
From: Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in>
To: Ravindran Raman <pathmaATnospamtm.net.my>
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Subject: Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
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Raman i think that mediatation and mantr japa leads to kundalini awakening
and that wat's u r having.
Love,
Anurag
On Mon, 17 Aug 1998, Ravindran Raman wrote:
> Dear sir,..I have been practising meditation daily after my prayers and this
has been my practice since few months now after stopping nearly for two years
.During the meditation I concerntrate in the centre of my brow and chant mantra
while breathing,I see bright light and when i concerntrate harder, I feel some
thing rising from the neck and my whole head and body becomes stiff and shakey.
When I'm just resting my heart beats harder as though I'm afraid of something a
nd sometimes feel panic and my body feel hot like a wind sweeping inside....Why
does this happen and is it normal in meditation practice...please advise.
> Thank you......OM SIVAYA NAMAHA.
>
>
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 22:28:19 -0400
From: "Brandon" <brandonATnospamwebpower.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Possibly off subject, but I am not sure.
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First, I want to say hello to everyone, and please excuse me if I seem to
get a little off the topic every once in a while.
Second, I was wondering what is the average age of people becoming
interested in this.
I started getting into spirituality at the age of 12. I know it is hard to
believe, but for some reason, I always have been like this for as far as I
can remember.
Another thing, pertains to the previous paragraph. Is it odd for someone
to become aware of spirituality at a young age, does it happen often, and
is there anything I should be concerned about?
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 23:08:13 EDT
From: Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com
To: shawebbATnospamyhc.edu, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: feeling kinda crazy
Message-ID: <c8259c53.35d8f01fATnospamaol.com>
In a message dated 8/17/1998 5:27:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time, shawebbATnospamyhc.edu
writes:
<< There was such a sense of Aloneness that it was very difficult to process.
Harsha: You are right. It is difficult for the mind to integrate such
experiences.
Aloneness may not be loneliness. It is eventually is seen to be All-Oneness.
It is Wholeness. God bless everyone with peace and joy.
Om Shanti.
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 23:12:11 EDT
From: Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com
To: brandonATnospamwebpower.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Possibly off subject, but I am not sure.
Message-ID: <e62f60e7.35d8f10cATnospamaol.com>
In a message dated 8/17/1998 7:53:51 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
brandonATnospamwebpower.com writes:
<< Another thing, pertains to the previous paragraph. Is it odd for someone
to become aware of spirituality at a young age, does it happen often, and
is there anything I should be concerned about? >>
Harsha: It is not odd to become aware at a young age. It is odd to let life
pass you by while you sleep.
Date: 18 Aug 98 04:13:44 +0000
From: "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Possibly off subject, but I am not sure.
Message-Id: <OUT-35D8FF78.MD-1.0.paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
> Another thing, pertains to the previous paragraph. Is it odd for someone
> to become aware of spirituality at a young age, does it happen often, and
> is there anything I should be concerned about?
>
Personally I don't see there's anything wrong with that. Age doesn't
seem to matter. There are all sorts of things that the ego/mind does
as very short measures to cover things up only to a small degree,
but it's good at repeating those measures over and over again to
constantly just hold off spirituality. So it could take millions of
years or you could do it right now, so I don't see that age can matter
that much.
--
Paul.
IRC: #amiga, Dalnet: #blitz
WWW: http://www.stationone.demon.co.uk
E-M: paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 08:45:30 +0530 (IST)
From: Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in>
To: Brandon <brandonATnospamwebpower.com>
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Subject: Re: Possibly off subject, but I am not sure.
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You know one of my PUJYA GURUDEV is younger than me.It's good as soon as
one become aware of spirituality but at the same time enjoy normal life
too..
love,
Anurag
On Mon, 17 Aug 1998, Brandon wrote:
> First, I want to say hello to everyone, and please excuse me if I seem to
> get a little off the topic every once in a while.
> Second, I was wondering what is the average age of people becoming
> interested in this.
> I started getting into spirituality at the age of 12. I know it is hard to
> believe, but for some reason, I always have been like this for as far as I
> can remember.
> Another thing, pertains to the previous paragraph. Is it odd for someone
> to become aware of spirituality at a young age, does it happen often, and
> is there anything I should be concerned about?
>
>
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 00:04:58 -0400
From: "carrea" <carreaATnospamvideotron.ca>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>, "Brandon" <brandonATnospamwebpower.com>
Subject: Re: Possibly off subject, but I am not sure.
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> Another thing, pertains to the previous paragraph. Is it odd for someone
>to become aware of spirituality at a young age, does it happen often, and
>is there anything I should be concerned about?
My nephew now one year old since the 21 of july, is my guru.
Antoine
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 21:37:17 PDT
From: "jim privacy" <jprivacyATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, brandonATnospamwebpower.com
Subject: Re: Possibly off subject, but I am not sure.
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Dear Brandon:
>I was wondering what is the average age of people becoming
interested in this. I started getting into spirituality at the age of
12. I know it is hard to believe, but for some reason, I always have
been like this for as far as I can remember.
Another thing, pertains to the previous paragraph. Is it odd for
someone to become aware of spirituality at a young age, does it happen
often, and is there anything I should be concerned about?
I had my first out-of body experience about age 8. Scared me shitless.
About the same time I heard of Jesus, prayed with the simple devotion of
an 8-year old and felt his presence. And vividly remembered (imagined?)
my previous life as an Indian warrior... not sure where an 8-yr old
hears the word "reincarnation" on his own.
Started reading books on psychology, meditation, est, the evolution of
the mind, paranormal, "Serpent Power" (<-- a classic on kundalini) all
about age 12. Began my meditation practice full force age 17, received
Shaktipat initiation age 20.
>From what I've read, the awakening of sexual energy at puberty is often
accompanied by awakening of spiritual energy (they are fundamentally the
same stuff); and a good spiritual practice is recommended around this
age because it can help harness and direct otherwise out-of-control
sexual energy. So, age 12 is a great time to begin one's spiritual
pursuits.
Puberty is a natural age for asking those "who am I?" kinds of questions
that are the beginnings of spiritual seeking. So, IMO, you are very
normal. Maybe not "typical" or "average" among your peers, but very
healthy nonetheless. Don't even worry.
Also, early age seekers may have made much progress in a previous life,
but not completed their work. Maybe this is your last time around? Hope
so, for me.
Love, -Jim
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