1998/08/15 16:47
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #568
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 568
Today's Topics: Re: Ghost busting [ Mystress Angelique Serpent ]
Timetravel [ "Paul West" ] Unidentified subject! [ cosmic energy ]
Re: aura? [ cosmic energy ] deeper breath cycles [ John Heckenbach ]
Re: deeper breath cycles [ Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com ] Re: deeper breath cycles [ Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com ]
Re: How to say? [ Danijel Turina To: nancyATnospamwtp.net
Cc: kundalini-1 Subject: Re: Ghost busting
Message-Id:
This is wonderful.
At 07:57 PM 14/08/98 -0600, nancy wrote:
>So, here's my report from my ghostly encounter. >Wednesday night, I let it go. Last night I decided that as I was taking
>a bath in epsom salt and sage oil that maybe I could safely help the >ghost transition right from where I was.
(grin) Sure, time space don't matter to a spook. I considered offering to clear it for you, but I didn't coz had a feeling :) it was an experience
you needed. Used to clear a lot more ghosts, when folks asked me, lately I'm finding it more worthwhile to teach folks to do it themselves. Very
empowering! >
>The name "Bob" came to mind as I called my ghostly guy. > I allowed him to enter my heart. Felt
>funny, kinda crowded. LOL! Better stretch your heart bigger, if you are gonna do a lot of this
kind of work.. start taking on old graveyards and battlefields, it gets really crowded! Heh heh...
I'm kidding, actually.. the whole infinite universe fits easily inside your heart. It may be, he was stretching you to make you bigger.
>I assured him that he was very loved and that there was a place that he
>belonged in now, and it wasn't here with me. I told him that his angels >and guides were near and they wanted to bring him to this place. As I
>spoke to him, heart to heart, I felt him release the fear a bit. It was >enough to be able to send him on his way.
You did perfectly!! Bravo!! >
>I thought of Angelique's ghosty canoe and called her and her friends to >pick up their passenger. Then I called to my angels and his and asked
>them to escort him to the canoe. I opened my arms and tried to envision >him releasing through my crown chakra, but instead, it felt more like he
>left through the front of my chest, neck and face. It was like he was >pulled from my reclining body.
I usually feel them go out my crown.. if he went out your front, then he probably was headed for the spirit canoe.. Kewl!
I had never thought of "loaning" it out, before this.. (shrug) I don't own it or anything, I gave it to Goddess and the Shamen who are the "crew".
The discarnate Shamen were the ones that asked me to make the thing, inna first place. To help with the "purification".
There is a relationship between aboriginal suicide rates worldwide, and ancestor worship. Imagine inheriting a few thousand meddling mother-in law
ghosts along with your DNA? The suicide stats are a manifestation of "if ya can't beat 'em, join 'em."
And they are.. Since the ancestors expected to be worshipped by the living, they tended
not to go into the light. Spirit guides that haven't gone into the light are worse than no guides at all.
Or, it could be that since your heart was crowded, your crown was a
really tight squeeze.. someone newly awakened I was teaching this to, one time, said it felt like the ghost was being born out the top of her head..
squeezing out slowly.. I remember, I gave it a "shove" to push it thru.. some I feel slip out like nothing, others give me a shiver as they exit.
>As I lie in bed later that night, I realized that old Bob had been
>lingering around on the early plane because he was waiting for me. I >wasn't there to help him. He was there to help ME!
(huge grin) So co-creation works.. I have had many really beautiful experiences clearing spookies. I don't find them scary at all, I sympathise
with them.
>Something happened over the past 24 hours. Maybe it's just a temporary >thing, who knows, but I feel that somehow I've seen with my own eyes the
>benefit of letting in love and letting go of fear. A beautiful, >wonderful life has been awaiting me if I would just stop all the
>clinging. We really do teach best, what we most need to learn. Goddess provides. I
am so proud of you! You did great! Blessings, Mystress.
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 23:41:28 -0500 From: "L. Mallard"
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Please remove me from this mailing list. It is a good one but I just don't have the time right
now to keep up. Thank you
Laura Mallard
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Reality is the cage of those who lack imagination.
-- J. B. S. Haldane -----Original Message-----
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Date: Friday, August 14, 1998 1:14 PM Subject: kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #566
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 22:09:18 -0700 From: Jack Dickerson
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com Subject: Re: UNSUBSCRIBE
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I have just been observing and trying to glean as much as possible, but...
I just don't have enough time to keep up with 40 or so messages on this board every night. I wish I did, because I've had some experiences that
people who supposedly know have told me is kundalini, or the chakras awakening. If anyone has any good knowledge about *partial awakening*
please feel free to email me, thats what I *feel* is my case, at least so far. Is *partial* awakening possible or not? I seem to see two
different opinions about that.
Regards to all Jack
and Thanks Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 09:21:05 +0200
From: "Jason S. White" To: "Paul West"
Cc: "Kundalini" Subject: Re: Standing Alone
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>One of the most beautiful, intimate thing I have ever written, just
>got `accidentally' erased. ;-) >
>Going somewhere, all on my own. >
>-- >Paul.
Capsulation of experience, formulation of thought
takes energy harness: enthusiasm
give it a goal require no validation from others
heal patch leaks in energy
learn to move gracefully balance between madness and ignorance
develop capacities focus intently
break patterns plant roots
develop imagination step into dreams
learn to breathe contemplate the inconceivable
Discussion helps then stops
absolutely all alone Now
Evolution happens
in the silence between moments, in the echoes of words
in the expectation of unintelligible whispers
in the wake of unfinished thoughts in the murmur of your heart
in the toil of the tiny muscles focusing the lens in your eye.......
May the immensity of ______ fill your blanks and lead you deeper, up along your inevitable path of divine experience.
So much Love to you.
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 10:00:57 +0200 From: Danijel Turina
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com Subject: Re: How to say?
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At 06:09 1998.08.15 +0530, you wrote:
> >OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
Yes, and then the entire Creation appears as a vibrating bubble of
sparkling sat-cit-ananda, giving form to the eternally formless. ;)))))
>love, >Anurag
> >> At 10:58 1998.08.14 -0700, Mystress Angelique Serpent wrote:
>> > Danijel wrote: >> >>>Oh, even better, can you write down the sound of one hand clapping? ;)))
>> > Easy: Om. >>
>> I never manage to pronounce that one right... :))
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From: Mystress Angelique Serpent To: Danijel Turina
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com Subject: Re: How to say?
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Yeah, but the prize was a bow. Pay up.
>>> At 10:58 1998.08.14 -0700, Mystress Angelique Serpent wrote: >>> > Danijel wrote:
>>> >>>Oh, even better, can you write down the sound of one hand clapping? ;)))
>>> > Easy: Om. >>>
>>> I never manage to pronounce that one right... :)) >
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> >
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 14:00:39 +0530 (IST) From: Anurag Goel
To: Danijel Turina cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
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Hi, after i had shaktipat it used to be very nice while
pronouncing Om. All the bad thoughts were automatically taken away and used to feel as if the pot of purity is
opening right in the center of chest. just sharing the experience of pronouncing Om.
Love,
Anurag
On Sat, 15 Aug 1998, Danijel Turina wrote:
> At 06:09 1998.08.15 +0530, you wrote:
> > > >OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
> > Yes, and then the entire Creation appears as a vibrating bubble of
> sparkling sat-cit-ananda, giving form to the eternally formless. ;))))) >
> >love, > >Anurag
> > Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 17:27:53 +0530 (IST)
From: Anurag Goel To: Mystress Angelique Serpent
cc: Danijel Turina , kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com Subject: Re: How to say?
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Mystress he paid. My respects to him.
Love,
Anurag
On Sat, 15 Aug 1998, Mystress Angelique Serpent wrote:
> Yeah, but the prize was a bow. Pay up. > >>> At 10:58 1998.08.14 -0700, Mystress Angelique Serpent wrote:
> >>> > Danijel wrote: > >>> >>>Oh, even better, can you write down the sound of one hand clapping?
> ;))) > >>> > Easy: Om.
> >>> > >>> I never manage to pronounce that one right... :))
> > > >-----
> >E-mail : dturinaATnospamgeocities.com > >Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/1377
> > > >
> > >
> Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 08:12:54 -0400
From: "carrea" To: "Anurag Goel" ,
"Danijel Turina" Cc:
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> after i had shaktipat it used to be very nice while > pronouncing Om. All the bad thoughts were automatically
> taken away and used to feel as if the pot of purity is > opening right in the center of chest. just sharing the
> experience of pronouncing Om. >Anurag
>> >OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. >>
>> Yes, and then the entire Creation appears as a vibrating bubble of >> sparkling sat-cit-ananda, giving form to the eternally formless. ;)))))
All the vibrating bubbles remembering they are one hand.
HUMMMMMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Antoine
Date: 15 Aug 98 14:33:44 +0000 From: "Paul West"
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com Subject: Timetravel
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Hi.
Day before yesterday I think time stopped for a while.
It was after I wrote that somewhat forward message to the list about what was happening at the time. I lay down in bed finally intending to
get to sleep. I heard my younger sister downstairs open the door to the living room where she had been watching late night television.
When it's nighttime everyone walks around quite slowly as to not make a noise, especially when walking on the stairs. Then, as if I had not
gone anywhere at all, my sister was walking past my bedroom door. I ws surprised and I figured it must take at least 10 seconds to get from
the living room to my bedroom. I did not have any experience of her coming up the stairs or anything. It was like time just didn't exist
at all. And the even wierder thing is that in the interim I went nowhere, absolutely nowhere, like no time had passed at all, and yet
chronologically speaking it seemed in hindsight that about 10 seconds had been `lost'. This is just so wierd.
--
Paul.
IRC: #amiga, Dalnet: #blitz WWW: http://www.stationone.demon.co.uk
E-M: paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 17:58:13 +0500
From: cosmic energy To: "janpa tsomo"
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com Subject: Re: aura?
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Dear Friend:
1.Keep on trying with <>> is the secret of any knowledge you seek.
2.We all are at <>> and hence difference ought to be there among all of us.
3.Perhaps everything cannot be <>> and need to be practiced with one who is practicing.
With love and regards, Ms. Seema
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ok im way curious... how do you read an aura? i've only seen auras a few times, so i'm sure
they exist, but usually what i 'see' are little intuitive flashy-thingys. im of course curious about me :). (always! insatiably somewhat always
making sure i look good.... (oops! desire! supposed to be cutting that off!)maitri, --janpa the yogini-wannabe who's motto is 'well i keep
trying....'
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 20:53:41 +0500 From: cosmic energy
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Lovely Ms Holly: 1. Do inform what you learnt or learning the world around you.
2.Through aura, what do you want to know- health condition or mental condition?
3. So for health is concerned. Your aura is 6 inches uniform which means person is vibrant. This aura can be increased even upto 18 inches by
regularly meditating and sheding negativity from the body OR help of any proficient healer can be taken to for this . See elsewhere here what a
person can do if aura is wider and vibrant . 4. Spiritual cord is 3 inches and therefore you can bless or heal others
using palms. 5.Your sub-conscious mind contains fear of the unknown. There can be
several reasons for this. If your life history is known, it is possible to indicate the cause for your taking corrective steps.
6. Do you want me to inform you all in one go. No, it will be difficult to digest.
Do you know, your photo took 10 minutes to reach through Eudora. Please
note for aura sensing only face is required. A passport size photo sufficies. With love, we wish you rise high on your spiritual path.
Ms. Seema ******
At 01:37 PM 8/14/98 -0400, you wrote:
Dear Ms. Seema, <Can>> you read my aura? I am new to spiritual practice and I am very
interested in learning more about myself and the worlds around me. I am including a very recent picture of me.
Thank you very much, Holly
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Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 20:55:04 +0500 From: cosmic energy
To: melintonATnospamalison.sbc.edu Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
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Lovely Ms.Liz: Not much study has been done by allopaths on para-thyroid and during
operation for thyroid , they remove it also.
During our Cosmic Beam healing the chronic diseases related to skin, we clearly found that one of the effect of imbalance of this part relates to
different skin troubles and obesity. However we have still to understand the para-thyroid at the right side.
2. For Amygdala, why don't you please browse the allopath's sites to gain thorough knowledge? Please cook to eat, why desire for <instant>> cooked
food. 3. Reactivity is our nature. It is good as well bad also. During half sleep
when a heavy sound is there, you get up in a jerk jumping out of your bed and save yourself if really wall is falling near you.
At the other side, when some body comes and you dislike, and without allowing other parts which analyse your action, the amygdala reacts and you
start beating or abusing. So reactivity is good but bad as well. I hope you will realise that everyone desires to know about aura and
therefore in case you desire any further reply, please send it through post and allow us time.
With love, Ms. Seema.
------------------------------------------------------------------------ At 01:34 PM 8/14/98 -0400, you wrote:
>Dear Ms. Seema: Could you please explain, what is "Negativity at two left para-thyroids"?
You said: 3.Amygdala shows little more towards reactivity.
Also, can you please explain "reactivity"? You have created a great interest in me to learn more about the aura. I
>hope I am able to find some good sources in this country.--Liz Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 12:18:38 -0700
From: John Heckenbach (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent ) To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
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(you sent this to the -0wner address, John...)
As a new reader to the mailing list, I have the following questions
Has anyone felt COMPELLED ? or other-wise INSPIRED ?
to lengthen the normal breath-cycle (inhale-retention-exhale-hold ) to TWO breaths per minute ?
or ONE breath per minute ? or ONE breath-cycle per TWO minutes ?
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Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 12:45:29 -0700 From: "Michael M. Zanoni"
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jim privacy wrote: A seeker wrote:
>One question that I hope someone on this list can enlighten me.
I have seen many people having spontaneous movements soon after they start their chi kung practice. The masters explain
them as result of chi circulation. These movements are spontaneous,
but the mind can also exercise control. Usually the masters advise
students to to tone them down when they become too violent. Can I
I have noted "spontaneous" movements among newer participants in tai chi and chi gung classes. I find it interesting that these
movements usually are patterned after those displayed by the "master." I have also seen movements during group meditation, and find them to be
very different in scope and origin than those in chi gung groups.
Mike Zanoni Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 21:53:28 +0100
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John Heckenbach (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent ) wrote:[...]
Has
anyone felt COMPELLED ? or other-wise
INSPIRED ? to lengthen the normal breath-cycle (inhale-retention-exhale-hold
) to TWO breaths per minute ? or
ONE breath per minute ? or ONE
breath-cycle per TWO minutes ?
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Quite a long time ago I became
aware of a kind of barrier to progress. As a remedy, I meditated for 120 hours at a stroke, combined with taking a breath once a minute. The barrier
was crossed.
Jan Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 17:30:29 EDT
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In a message dated 8/15/1998 12:20:45 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
johnhATnospamvrml.k12.la.us writes:
< Has anyone felt COMPELLED ? or other-wise INSPIRED ?
to lengthen the normal breath-cycle (inhale-retention-exhale-hold ) to TWO breaths per minute ?
or ONE breath per minute ? or ONE breath-cycle per TWO minutes ?
>> Harsha: Some months back there was a fairly extensive discussion of advanced
pranayama and its effect on the Kundalini Shakti on this list. It should be in the archives. You may find it to be useful. See also the section on
pranayama in my paper listed below. It contains important cautions about long term breath retention.
The Spiritual Experience and the Awakening of
>Kundalini Shakti in Tantra Yoga >http://www.telebyte.nl/~frans/kundalini/harsh.html
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 17:44:57 EDT From: Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com
To: janbarenATnospaminfase.es, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com Subject: Re: deeper breath cycles
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In a message dated 8/15/1998 1:56:07 PM Pacific Daylight Time, janbarenATnospaminfase.es writes:
< Quite a long time ago I became aware of a kind of barrier to progress. As a
remedy, I meditated for 120 hours at a stroke, combined with taking a breath once
a minute. The barrier was crossed.
Jan >>
Harsha: Jan, your raw diet of primarily fruits is very conducive to this type of austerity. I doubt that very many others could do it. Advanced pranayama
requires the right mental and physical environment, a lot of self confidence, and a practical knowledge of the workings of prana in the body.
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1998 00:25:47 +0200 From: Danijel Turina
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com Subject: Re: How to say?
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At 14:00 1998.08.15 +0530, Anurag Goel wrote:
> >Hi,
> after i had shaktipat it used to be very nice while > pronouncing Om. All the bad thoughts were automatically
> taken away and used to feel as if the pot of purity is > opening right in the center of chest. just sharing the
> experience of pronouncing Om.
Yes, I formed a technique of removing the emotional and mental contents
from one's system by resonating a sound out loud - like a deep sigh or a moan; it starts as a high-pitched sound, because the emotions are intense,
and as you go, resonating as you exhale, the sound spontaneously gets deeper, when emotional charge is released. With that, you go from one
emotion to another, releasing them all. When there is no emotional charge or stray thoughts in the system, the sound is a deep resonance, om, or
something like it, because real pranava is supposed to be the carrier-wave of the Creation, not just a sound; a vibration of a basic principle
produces manifestation of objects, beings, all relative. Om is, in its essence, the power of creation by word.
No, I didn't mean Word for Windows. :)))
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Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 18:29:23 EDT From: ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com Subject: Fear (Kristen)
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Hi Kristen...
So glad to hear you are feeling better these days and getting back to your love of skiing.
As I was reading this last post of yours, it sounded like the SAME words you
used while working on facing your fears recently of your past growing up issues.
You wrote: I don't want to be injured again, or go through that pain again,
(and be taken away from my skiing.) I have to get past it, cause with it right now, I am not
helping myself at all. I only want to go up and not down.
Seems to me that you have projected those fears onto your skiing. Once aware of that (if it is true and I'm sure it is), you may find facing the fear of
skiing much easier than those of the past knowing (with this awareness) that if you face one, you face them all.
Go for last place while starting out again instead of #1 being the best -
much less pressure and serves the same purpose.
Just Do It! I know you can.....
Much Love, xxxtg
* Take my advice, I don't use it anyway *
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