1998/08/12 06:37
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #561
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 561
Today's Topics:
feel very priviledged to read this [ F19AshATnospamaol.com ]
Re: The Great Awakening [ "Jason S. White" <zymphtATnospambluewin.ch ]
Re: K sensitivities [ Ron Grimes <rogrimeATnospamibm.net> ]
Lingering Spirit [ nancy <nancyATnospamwtp.net> ]
K- sensitivities [ Maureen Heffernan <morlightATnospammhonlin ]
flute's poetry [ flute <fluteATnospamtexas.net> ]
Re: Shakti Masters [ "janpa tsomo" <j_tsomoATnospamhotmail.com> ]
Re: Shakti Masters [ "guy johnson" <tantriciskATnospamhotmail.c ]
Re: The wizard [ Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com ]
Re: notes and comments [ "janpa tsomo" <j_tsomoATnospamhotmail.com> ]
Re: feel very priviledged to read th [ "janpa tsomo" <j_tsomoATnospamhotmail.com> ]
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 02:27:48 EDT
From: F19AshATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: feel very priviledged to read this
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(I dont let people usually read this, but i feel sorta connected to this list
so here goes)
Here is my essay on the written vision I received when I was young, only in
eighth grade, studying for finals, when suddenly I began to think about my
religious beliefs and the things taught to me about religion in school that
did not make sense. I had been brought up Catholic since I was very little
and had attended Catholic school for twelve years, hardly knowing anything
about any other religions. A strange feeling came over me that I needed to
get a piece of paper and pencil and write what I thought now were my true
beliefs. Even though I knew I should be studying for finals, I got out the
paper and pencil anyway and began to write. I wrote down pages and pages of
information, hardly stopping for what seemed like only minutes, but certainly
was a couple hours. The words practically wrote themselves down on the pages.
It felt as if the words were directly guided by some force or guide. Little
did I know, those pages would reshape my life like a vision straight from God.
Later, as I became older, I would study other religions and relate them to
what I wrote. Many religions seemed to me to be similar, yet no one religion
was the same as mine. I also changed some of the information on the pages
with the knowledge I gained over the years. This, to the extent of my
knowledge, are my beliefs today, including most of what I wrote down that day,
about ten years ago.
In the beginning God was formed in total nothingness. There was nothing where
our own universe is now, no planets, not even space. God was nothing, not
even a god at all. Then, out of the nothingness came a spark of "light". The
light grew and became what is known as God. This was how God came to be. God
stayed in this nothingness and became "intelligent". God figured out how to
use the nothingness. God found a way to shape it and finally make it grow
into a large space. The reason for being in this emptiness was beginning to
be understood. God began to create more. God created a universe, then
another, and then another, until there were so many God did not know what to
do with them. God decided to create more. God wanted things to live in the
universes. The first thing put in them were suns, great balls of light and
heat made to brighten up the universes. From these suns came stars, broken
off. Then God decided to make a surface to put all of the creations to be
made in the future. With this purpose, God decided to form a rock wall
surrounding the universes. The rock was formed from particles of things made
during the creation of the universes, suns, and stars. It was all collected
together to form the wall of rock. From this rock God broke all of the
planets. They were placed in orbits surrounding the sun. God Himself entered
this rock so God could surround all that was created. Beyond the rock became
heaven, and beyond that the astral plane. Everything together made up a
circular ball of infinity, with the creations in the center. Beyond these
were the rock surrounding, then heaven, and then the astral plane.
God, in heaven, decided to try and create life to live on the planets. God
created clouds to hover over the planets. God had water form inside them
until they were all completely full. Then it rained and rained. In some
parts of certain planets it even hailed. These great storms caused oceans to
form. Then, during these storms, there was thunder and lightning. When the
lightning hit the oceans they created small life-forms in them. The life-
forms were unicellular, but eventually grew. God started creating in heaven,
trying to make a perfect life-form. Everything God made started unicellular
in heaven. Everything developed in heaven was released to the planets in
stages. Different life-forms were released to different planets and areas
suited to them. Some evolved and some did not. It all depended on God and
the environment God caused upon the planets. When God got up to creating
dinosaurs, they were considered very superior over other life-forms. Around
this time also, God had discovered monkeys. He released them upon the earth
(one of the planets). These monkeys began to evolve into humans. Because God
knew dinosaurs and humans could not get along, God had to destroy his race of
dinosaurs that held so much promise. God knew, though, that things must move
on. Before this though, God had humans live in heaven for a time. God
created man and woman at the same time to complement each other and gave both
free will. Their free will got the best of them though when they tried to
trick God. They were banished to live on Planet Earth (only). They have
lived there since then.
Many other species have been produced after this time. There have been more
intelligent life-forms than humans, but none have ever originally lived in
heaven as humans did. These life-forms have been released on different
planets besides earth but have been seen on this planet occasionally. This is
how God created everything we know today.
God wanted people to go somewhere when they died. God knew the life cycle
must move on. God decided for people to live in heaven when they died. God
knew this task could not be done easily because humans originally had been
kicked out of heaven. God knew there were souls waiting to come to God and
spirits trying to find a place to go along the rock, patiently waiting to be
let in. God decided to make a man to go down to earth to save the souls and
spirits waiting by "the gates of heaven". This man would be born by Mary and
would die for all people in the place of his father, God. God released this
special man in Mary and everything went as planned. People were taught about
God, even though not everyone listened. Jesus was His name, and He died to
save all humanity, crucified by the men and women he loved. When he died he
opened "the gates of heaven" and the souls went straight to God. God knew to
make a place for the spirits of everyone. While Jesus was on earth, God was
busy at this task, planning the cycle of the dead.
The spirits of the dead were put in the most beautiful place imagined, heaven
(the Garden of Eden). From this place everyone was happy and all was at
peace. It was a perfect place to be content with all. Once souls had spent a
great deal of time with God they were put once again in someone on earth in a
process of reincarnation. At this time another spirit would be born to serve
as the essence of that person and provide them with a sense of God and
spiritual energy. These spirits also could communicate with others and travel
away from their own psychical bodies creating which is sometimes called
"chemistry". They could serve as a conscience for that person, helping them
solve questionable problems, and even help along some possible destiny or
fate. These spirits could communicate with God very indirectly through a
spirit guide to ask favors for their psychical bodied when they prayed. When
they asked they were always tried to be answered positively if possible, but
nonetheless, always answered in some way.
When a person died, their spirits would take the persons soul to God through
space. After God received the soul, the spirit would continue on to heaven.
When that person was reincarnated, the soul would return to earth in a
different body and the spirit of the person before it would still stay in
heaven. A new spirit would now be with the soul´s now new psychical form. In
this way, the spirits of everyone alive would always "live" on.
Jesus´ spirit, however, was not put in heaven, but instead took over the
energy of the sun where he could be "the light of the world" and watch over
His people. This is how God sees everything we do and this is also why demons
are more present at night. His soul stays with His Father in the rock until
he returns again when the sun dies out and the world comes to an end to judge
who will go to heaven or hell. There was also a Holy Spirit placed in heaven
to watch over all the spirits there and represent God. In this way, God
became a trinity of three beings, the father (of all), the Son (Jesus), and
the Holy Spirit (a universal conscience).
When everyone who had been waiting to go into heaven went there after Jesus
saved them, the spirits of the people who had chosen to do evil on earth had
entered too. God thought they would change their ways when they at last
reached heaven and discovered how great God was. Lucifer was an angel that
led a rebellion against God, planning to trick God and take over all.
Originally, Satan was very honored in the eyes of God, but He wished to have
more power. A war began in heaven, angel against angel, good against evil.
Eventually Satan and his followers perished and were sent to the center of the
earth in a pit of never-ending burning fire. He tortured and used the spirits
there that had done evil on the earth. God still had their souls though, and
they did become reincarnated to get another chance to go to heaven. When
reincarnated, people did not remember their past lives, but when they were
evil in one life, they usually did not have a very favorable life in the next.
They had a chance to change their life for the better though.
In heaven and hell, a hierarchy was established. In heaven, first, as always,
came the Holy Spirit (or God). Then came the angels, sent to do the Holy
Spirit´s "dirty work", as in avoiding or confronting fights with the devil´s
angels (demons) or handling an important task on earth, such as saving someone
from near death that is not meant to be. Under the angels came spirit guides,
sent by the Holy Spirit to watch over each individual person and relay
messages from that person´s spirit to God. Under spirit guides came the
spirits of people that have died. In hell the same system was established,
except that there were no spirit guides sent by the devil unless asked for
directly, and instead of angels there were demons (which serve almost the same
purpose, but demons were sent to earth primarily to do evil, not good). There
were also some fallen angels on earth that were sent by God in human form.
These angels retained their spirit every time they were reincarnated and
remembered things that they learned when they died, but not all the details of
their former life. They walked the earth as a human, but helped others in
learning more about God in a direct way, without people knowing that they
really were angels.
The astral plane, beyond heaven, was a place where just about anything could
happen. Evil and good were present there, and magick was relayed to either
God or the devil. This was where the spirits of animals went when they died
and the altered spirit of each human stayed. People on earth have been
conscious of the fact that their spirits had gone to this place. In order to
have done this, that person´s consciousness enters a spiritual trance and
enters their own spirit, leaving the psychical body. Great knowledge could be
gained by visiting the astral plane, but it is also very dangerous because
anything could happen there. People have died apparently for no reason
because they have been attacked and killed in the astral plane. These people
appeared to have just fallen asleep, but for no reason did not wake up.
Spiritual energy and power comes from the astral plane also, such as the
energy from crystals. White magick directed toward God is sent through the
astral plane and black magick toward the devil.
There are many exceptions in the processes of dying and being born again.
Many on earth have seen ghosts. Some have been good and others evil. These
have been spirits possibly escaped from heaven and hell or maybe
angels/demons. They have escaped somehow, sometimes with the help of the Holy
Spirit or devil and sometimes not. Sometimes people on earth have been killed
and have stayed on earth to get justice from their killer. Only then can they
get to heaven and their soul can get to God, when their task is complete.
Sometimes people on earth can see them and help them in their task. Sometimes
spirits are just there on earth for no reason except they do not feel ready to
go to heaven yet. God knows this and does not hold anything against them as
long as they do not harm anyone. The devil, on the other hand, often lets
spirits out of hell when God is not watching him. They go to earth with the
intent on haunting and torturing people who are vulnerable. Sometimes the
devil´s spirits also are not ready to go to hell and they stay on earth
against the will of God. They also torture others while being tortured
themselves by the Holy Spirit. The devil is always trying to take the place
of God and challenge God by bringing more and more evil to earth. When the
end of the world is at hand, the devil will be his strongest, and then Jesus
will return to warn us, but few will listen. Most spirits will go to hell,
but that depends on who does and does not trust in God. The devil, in the
center of the earth, is very susceptible to humans because of his closeness to
the earth´s surface.
Some people remember their past lives when they become reincarnated, most of
the time only fragments. Sometimes people put the fragments together and
understand why they remember. Then they can find people who knew them before
and help them with their loss.
Some psychics or "empaths" are real. They have been touched by the Holy
Spirit to help others on earth. Also, very few of psychiatrists have the
power to help people as psychics can. They have been given the gift of
understanding people, how they think, and what their thoughts mean by the Holy
Spirit. All jobs have a purpose really, as all people have a purpose on
earth.
Dreams can either be a connection to the astral plane, if the dream is very
vivid, or it can be a simple learning tool used by a person´s spirit to convey
information to its psychical body. People can also talk to the spirits of
others in dreams. The devil´s spirits can also enter dreams, which cause some
nightmares. Other nightmares are warnings against something that could happen
in the future. Some dreams people can control, called lucid dreams. These
dreams are also when someone enters the astral plane. These dreams are
usually the most wonderful or a least most detailed. Dreams contain many
symbols that can tell of a past life, the present, or even the future.
God does have rules for us, but not many. We must do what is considered
universally right always and listen to our conscience, not the devil. We must
always try to help ourselves and not do anything to hurt ourselves exceedingly
if possible. We can honor God in our own way, not being pressured by anyone.
We must try to keep our faith alive.
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 09:01:23 +0200
From: "Jason S. White" <zymphtATnospambluewin.ch>
To: <sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net>, <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: The Great Awakening
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LOVE IT! And kundalini is what? The powerful force in the Turtle's shell
that, when awakened in the Turtle Protectors turns them into Teenaged Mutant
Ninjas and makes them realize their Turtleness? Cool!
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Date: Wednesday, 12 August, 1998 1:48 AM
Subject: The Great Awakening
I had waited for him for many long years, spun the prayer
wheels, called the psychic hotline, consulted the online oracles.
I wanted nothing less than complete enlightenment to all the mysteries
of the universe. When the student is ready, the teacher appears, all
of the oracles and portents had sighed into my ear, and so I waited.
Years, I waited, until one day a small firm knock sounded on
the door of my modest ranch home. I did consider a hut, but there
were problems with the zoning people. And there he was. A small
wizened Asian man with laughing eyes, in a thick red prayer robe.
I barely remembered myself. " The God in me recognizes the God
in you, " I said, and bowed gently, with my hands together.
He studied me for a moment. " Right, " he said, and steppped
past me through the door, " I don't have a lot of time, I've got
another Seeker at four."
Fine, fine!' I said eagerly, and led him into the living
room, " Please! Sit down! Can I get you anything? "
He nodded. " Fritos? "
" Roger, " I said ,and rushed to get him a small bag of Planet Lunch.
He tore it open. ' So, " he said, " want to know the story,
I bet, the meaning of it all, all that, right?"
" Oh, yes! I can't tell you how honored I am to finally be
visited with the Answer!"
His head bobbed curtly. " Don't mention it. Okay: Here it is,
I gotta give you the short version:
Everything is run by an enormous turtle named Moinymoingo. He
actually IS the universe , and we are all just molecules that make up
his Eternal Being. He's pretty partial to the turtles on earth and so
our entire function here is to honor and protect earthly turtles. The
more turtles you adopt and commune with, the more points you get,
universally speaking, if you know what I mean. "
" Really? "
" Oh, yeah. And when you doff this mortail coil, what happens
is you either are reborn as a turtle, or as another Turtle Protector.
If you do a good enough job, after several reincarnations you get to
leave the Turtle cycle for eternity and become a rock somewhere in the
Tanzanian desert, sometimes shale, sometimes sandstone, depending"
I blinked. " You're making that up, " I told him.
He paused, surprised, a handful of corn curls halfway to his
mouth, and then gave a slight nod.
" So? "
Ennui Go
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Jack
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 06:59:20 -0600
From: Ron Grimes <rogrimeATnospamibm.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: K sensitivities
Message-ID: <35D19FB7.A71D1499ATnospamibm.net>
Anurag Goel wrote:
> Janpa , i too think that sensitivity is a part of kundalini. I have become
> sensitive to red chillis can't tolerate even a bit of it. Earlier I used
> to feel kind of intoxicated after a cup of coffee.
But I think even beyond food, I have noticed that I can no longer tolerate the thoughts of
cruelty and violence. This means that the action movies I used to enjoy I cannot watch any
longer. I find that it greatly disturbs me to see our society's love affair with violence,
whether that be in real life or just in the movies. There is a verse that states something
to the effect that God cannot dwell in an unclean body. I now understand that the greatest
"uncleanness" comes from what we choose to watch or listen to. Much of the non-sense our
society thrives on is greatly offensive to our spirits.
- Ron
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 07:08:47 -0600
From: nancy <nancyATnospamwtp.net>
To: kundalini-1 <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Lingering Spirit
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I know this is probably considered a bit off topic, so I'll keep it
short. I have a friend who sees disembodied spirits. She doesn't mind
any of them except this one who was with the house she moved into. The
guy she sees killed himself in the house, and she says he's just not
very nice. He disrupts things, makes noises, doesn't follow the "rules"
the others follow.
I told her last week that perhaps sage would clear out the energy of
him. And that maybe she needed to ask him to leave. We've planned to do
this tonight.
Last night I had a dream where this spirit started attacking me. He was
energetically bombarding me with this energetic pressure. It made me
feel like I had no control over my thought process. He made a bat appear
that swooped down into my hair. He made it clear that he didn't want me
to interfere. It was scary! (And I'm not easily scared!!!)
This morning, it dawned on me that we have been taking the wrong tact.
Perhaps we need to ask this spirit to leave, but somehow we need to send
him off with love.
Does anyone have any ideas on how to do this? I'm a little troubled by
this dream and don't want to recreate this in life.
Thanks,
Nancy
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 09:00:53 +0000
From: Maureen Heffernan <morlightATnospammhonline.net>
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: K- sensitivities
Message-ID: <35D159C5.907532F6ATnospammhonline.net>
Dear Ron,
Amen!
More Light.
+ Maureen
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 08:06:19 -0500
From: flute <fluteATnospamtexas.net>
To: "kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: flute's poetry
Message-ID: <35D1934B.49A3ATnospamtexas.net>
flute wrote:
Divine Order
The source of all being
roars in the spirit
of the wind and
rushes stormswept waves
upon a shoreline.
The source ignites the fire
of inspiration
and energy as we know it.
Then soars to the heavens.
Such a spirit is Part
of the unknowable,
part of Heaven's breath,
and part of the Earth's
warm strength.
The kundalini rainbow
dances on the level
of individual awareness
within each moment,
and makes a seeker
of us all.
Reaching upward seeking
to understand.
There to be confronted
by a new level,
rising in glory
challenging reality
and evolution.
Copyright
Carolyn Maloney 9/95
aka.. flute
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 06:11:54 PDT
From: "janpa tsomo" <j_tsomoATnospamhotmail.com>
To: KcliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca, serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com
Cc: acarreATnospamconcentric.net, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Shakti Masters
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>
> Take up martial arts, or become a Dominatrix. In women, the male
energy
>is the unconscious warrior side. Do warrior things, and give it room to
>express. It is in charge of every cell in your body, you wanna have it
on
>your side, unified with your conscious fem self.
> BB, A.
did i forget to tell you guys i'm a second degree black belt right now?
(taekwondo/Hapkido)
Tested about a month ago :)
now i have two little gold stripes on my belt :)
maitri,
--janpa
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Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 06:18:52 PDT
From: "guy johnson" <tantriciskATnospamhotmail.com>
To: anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Shakti Masters
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Have to put MHO in here, as Guy and I have found that addressing what
has happened in the past actually provides much of the fodder for change
and awakening in the present. When we "drop" the past intellectually,
we do nothing to address the cellular storage of the experience. Thus,
whatever state we were in when the event occurred stays with us (esp
when we were young and made broad sweeping decisions about the ways of
the world), and has an effect on how we respond or react in the future.
Attentive objective personal remembering has the power to relight those
incidents, and if we choose to reexperience the distorted feelings, we
can actually shift the rigid understanding of the past and make room for
far greater options in the present. That's what we think. Katrina and
Guy
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>Matthew a friend of mine tells wat happened in past has happened. Why
>worry abt it now ? devote urself completely in the awakening of
kundalini
>now that's wat is needed at present. Practice celibacy now or become
>able enough to divert the sexual enrgy upwards rather than worry abt
it.
>That's wat i think.
>
>Love,
>Anurag
>
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Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 09:19:37 EDT
From: Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com
To: janbarenATnospaminfase.es, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com, dturinaATnospamhempseed.com
Subject: Re: The wizard
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In a message dated 8/6/1998 5:19:57 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
janbarenATnospaminfase.es writes:
<< Jan: Ramana Maharshi didn't have a guru initiation, yet he awakened many...
The guru initiation opens the door to the question: Who initiated the first
guru? The 'inner guru' did, as was the case with Ramana Maharshi and many
others. Ramana Maharshi used the analogy with fuel: some fuel will burn
slowly, some fuel has to be dried first and some fuel will burn quickly and
without smoke (no problems with K. whatsoever). So he himself belonged to
the rare class of self-igniting and smokeless fuel. His remarks prove he was
an (auto) initiate of K. and many of his devotees experienced K. awakening.
>>
Harsha: Yes. Beautifully put by Jan. Who is the True Guru? It is the Self.
To See It in One Self, an outer Guru may be needed. What does the outer Guru
do? S/He looks you in the Eye with Conviction (that you are the Self). It
can only be done by One who knows the Truth of His Own Self. Ramana Maharshi
was one of those great and rare sages who was Fully Self-Awakened. It is well
known that for many people a simple glance from him awakened their kundalini
or put them in Samadhi. God bless you all with everything that is good in
life. May everyone abide in peace and pure joy.
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 06:22:23 PDT
From: "janpa tsomo" <j_tsomoATnospamhotmail.com>
To: j_tsomoATnospamhotmail.com, anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
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>Janpa , i too think that sensitivity is a part of kundalini. I have
become
>sensitive to red chillis can't tolerate even a bit of it. Earlier I
used
>to feel kind of intoxicated after a cup of coffee.
>
not all that long ago with me it was garlic, onions, dairy etc.
i still have my Dr. Pepper habit, but that is tempered with a lot of
water.
i've heard on the 3 year retreat that Lama's do, that at certain times,
they hold all the spices on food because they can aggeravate the
channels.
maitri,
--jt
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Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 06:27:10 PDT
From: "janpa tsomo" <j_tsomoATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, F19AshATnospamaol.com
Subject: Re: feel very priviledged to read this
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>From: F19AshATnospamaol.com
>Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 02:27:48 EDT
>To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
>Subject: feel very priviledged to read this
>
>(I dont let people usually read this, but i feel sorta connected to
this =
>list=0Aso here goes)
>
>Here is my essay on the written vision I received when I was young,
>In the beginning God was formed in total nothingness. There was
nothing =
>where=0Aour own universe is now, no planets, not even space. God was
not=
>hing, not=0Aeven a god at all. Then, out of the nothingness came a
spark=
> of "light". The=0Alight grew and became what is known as God. This
was=
> how God came to be.
<snip>
if this potential is where god came from, and god is this form out of
this potential, how is god not tied then, to this changing samsaric
universe?
when this cycle of this universe winds down, it will eventually go back
to this nothingness no? this limitlessness?
just a thought,
--janpa
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