1998/08/11 00:00
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #557
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 557
Today's Topics:
A story to grow by [ "Kat" <KcliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca> ]
RE: A burning question [ kyira_korriganATnospamdynapro.com (Kyira K ]
RE: A burning question [ Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iis ]
Re: Kundalini / Shaktipat [ "jim privacy" <jprivacyATnospamhotmail.com ]
Re: A burning question [ DruoutATnospamaol.com ]
Re: Kundalini / Shaktipat [ Ron Grimes <rogrimeATnospamibm.net> ]
Re: Kundalini/Shaktipat [ Ron Grimes <rogrimeATnospamibm.net> ]
Re: A burning question [ Ron Grimes <rogrimeATnospamibm.net> ]
Fw: kundalini physiology [ "jacqueline barnes" <brushATnospamjeack.co ]
Re: A burning question [ Marybeth Gottshall <kmgATnospamtaconic.net ]
Re: A burning question [ MoonrisempATnospamaol.com ]
Shakti Masters [ hyperATnospamhmt.com (HMT) ]
sex [ hyperATnospamhmt.com (HMT) ]
Re: A burning question [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 17:38:47 -0400
From: "Kat" <KcliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca>
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Subject: A story to grow by
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Hi All,
This was shared with a list that I am on. It was so beautiful that I must
share it with every list that I am on.
>THE OLD FISHERMAN
>
> Our house was directly across the street from the clinic entrance of
>John Hopkins Hospital in Baltimore. We lived downstairs and rented the
>upstairs rooms to out patients at the clinic. One summer evening as I
>was fixing supper, there was a knock at the door. I opened it to see a
>truly awful looking man. "Why, he's hardly taller than my
>eight-year-old," I thought as I stared at the stooped, shriveled body.
>But the appalling thing was his face--lopsided from swelling, red and
>raw. Yet his voice was pleasant as he said, "Good evening. I've come
>to see if you've a room for just one night. I came for a treatment this
>morning from the eastern shore, and there's no bus till morning." He
>told me he'd been hunting for a room since noon but with no success, no
>one seemed to have a room. "I guess it's my face... I know it looks
>terrible, but my doctor says with a few more treatments . . ." For a
>moment I hesitated, but his next words convinced me: "I could sleep in
>this rocking chair on the porch. My bus leaves early in the morning."
>I told him we would find him a bed, but to rest on the porch. I went
>inside and finished getting supper. When we were ready, I asked the old
>man if he would join us. "No thank you. I have plenty." And he held
>up a brown paper bag. When I had finished the dishes, I went out on the
>porch to talk with him a few minutes.
>It didn't take long time to see that this old man had an oversized heart
>crowded into that tiny body. He told me he fished for a living to
>support his daughter, her five children, and her husband, who was
>hopelessly crippled from a back injury. He didn't tell it by way of
>complaint; in fact, every other sentence was preface with a thanks to
>God for a blessing. He was grateful that no pain accompanied his
>disease, which was apparently a form of skin cancer. He thanked God for
>giving him the strength to keep going. At bedtime, we put a camp cot in
>the children's room for him. When I got up in the morning, the bed
>linens were neatly folded and the little man was out on the porch. He
>refused breakfast, but just before he left for his bus, haltingly, as if
>asking a great favor, he said, "Could I please come back and
>stay the next time I have a treatment? I won't put you out a bit. I
>can sleep fine in a chair." He paused a moment and then added, "Your
>children made me feel at home. Grownups are bothered by my face, but
>children don't seem to mind." I told him he was welcome to come again.
>And on his next trip he arrived a little after seven in the morning. As
>a gift, he brought a big fish and a quart of the largest oysters I had
>ever seen. He said he had shucked them that morning before he left so
>that they'd be nice and fresh I knew his bus left at 4:00 a.m. and I
>wondered what time he had to get up in order to do this for us. In the
>years he came to stay overnight with us there
>was never a time that he did not bring us fish or oysters or vegetables
>from his garden. Other times we received packages in the mail, always
>by special delivery; fish and oysters packed in a box of fresh young
>spinach or kale, every leaf carefully washed. Knowing that he must walk
>three miles to mail these, and knowing how little money he had made the
>gifts doubly precious. When I received these little remembrances, I
>often thought of a comment our next-door neighbor made after he left
>that first morning. "Did you keep that
>awful looking man last night? I turned him away! You can lose roomers
>by putting up such people!" Maybe we did lose roomers once or twice.
>But oh! If only they could have known him, perhaps their illnesses would
>have been easier to bear. I know our family always will be grateful to
>have known him; from him we learned what it was to accept the bad
>without complaint and the good with gratitude to God.
>
>
> Recently I was visiting a friend who has a greenhouse, As she showed me
>her flowers, we came to the most beautiful one of all, a golden
>chrysanthemum, bursting with blooms. But to my great surprise, it was
>growing in an old dented, rusty bucket. I thought to myself, "If this
>were my plant, I'd put it in the loveliest container I had!" My friend
>changed my mind. "I ran short of pots," she explained, "and knowing how
>beautiful this one would be, I thought it wouldn't mind starting out in
>this old pail. It's just for a little while, till I can put it out in
>the garden." She must have wondered why I laughed so delightedly, but I
>was imagining just such a scene in heaven. "Here's an especially
>beautiful one, " God might have said when he came to the soul of the
>sweet old fisherman. "He won't mind starting in this small body." All
>this happened long ago -- and now, in God's garden, how tall this lovely
>soul must stand.
>
> *** If this has blessed you, PLEASE PASS IT ON ***
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 15:52:34 -0700
From: kyira_korriganATnospamdynapro.com (Kyira Korrigan - DTI,MF)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com (kundalini-l)
Subject: RE: A burning question
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> From much that I have read, it appears that Kundalini is regarded as a
> transformation of sexual energy. But there are a differing views about
> whether one should remain celibate while Kundalini is in the process of
> arising, or whether moderate sex is acceptable. Also, many of the
> writings refer to the "retention of seed" for men, but what about for
> women? How does this translate? I know that there are tantric sexual
> practices that are used for the awakening of Kundalini, but again, what
I
> have read seems to be more focused on the male aspect of the practice.
The joy of sexual pleasure closely resembles the joy of kundalini rising.
In taoist yoga the first feelings of chi-recognition are clearly compared
to sexual tension. When learning the basics movement of ch'i from the
t'an tien down the belly, past muladhara chakra and up the spine, you
have to learn how to move the sexual tension up your body.
If, when you begin to feel your kundalini, you are distracted by its
similarity to sexual tension and you go have sex, and after orgasm allow
the focus to fade and return to a non-sexual (and therefore non-kundalini
aware) baseline you are losing the opportunity to develop spiritually.
Karezza is more than just orgasming without ejaculation - it is correctly
identify kundalini sensation and developing it into nirvanic joy instead
of sexual joy, it's closest relative in our everyday world. How well you
can feel aroused without acting on it will probably tell you whether you
need to (or could be) celibate during your practice.
Perhaps why the antique discussions always focuses on male ejaculation is
because "orgasm" was an historically much less developed reality. In
trying to tell people how to allow for the sexual intensity to build past
(and without) orgasm the most graphically clear way was to outline a
practice which denies ejaculation. I think that there is some
misinterpretation of karezza and related yogic techniques because the
texts are being read by very sexually aware students. We all know the
difference between orgasm and ejaculation, we even know theories on
different kinds of orgasm. Not nearly the same as the earlier cultures
who were documenting these techniques.
Why not discuss the female side? Probably because they were sexually
divided cultures, where the women were not reading about or practicing
advanced spiritual techniques. And, even if they were, it would have been
in terribly poor taste to discuss it. Hell, there may have been many
women high adepts, but no decent man was going to describe her sex life.
In Brahmin class India the men are often isolated from any women's
presence - how were they going to ever find out that women have orgasms?
Not open discussion - there was no Dr. Ruth then.
-Kyira
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 04:31:37 +0530 (IST)
From: Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in>
To: "Kyira Korrigan - DTI,MF" <kyira_korriganATnospamdynapro.com>
cc: kundalini-l <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: RE: A burning question
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Hi! Kyria,
That was a nice explanation regarding orgasm,celibacy...
Love and Light,
Anurag
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 16:18:56 PDT
From: "jim privacy" <jprivacyATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com, hyperATnospamhmt.com
Subject: Re: Kundalini / Shaktipat
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Dear Martin:
>I know of two individuals who can give this type of initiation. There
are more, I am sure of that, but I can only verify these two for sure.
I am of course curious. Can you name the 2 Shaktipat Masters you have
confidence in? Private Email is ok, too. Thanks.
Love, -Jim
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Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 19:31:26 EDT
From: DruoutATnospamaol.com
To: fredaann2ATnospamjuno.com, paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: A burning question
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In a message dated 98-08-10 17:32:15 EDT, fredaann2ATnospamjuno.com writes:
<< As a female K-lister I think it would be nice to make a bloody issue of
this ! >>
Agreed! Thanks Marybeth, Freda! for the subject!!
I think this is a very important question and one which interests me greatly.
I think celebacy had a definite part in my "awakening." I have recently
become sexually active again. I suspect there will be no change in the amount
of K activity, but we'll see :)) My guess is that celebacy jump starts K, but
that it is unnecessary and has no real affect one way or another after the
awakening. Any other experiences??
Love, Hillary
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 19:19:38 -0600
From: Ron Grimes <rogrimeATnospamibm.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Kundalini / Shaktipat
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All of this talk about awakening Kundalini by a Shaktipat master inclines
me to
issue a bit of warning to newbies who may think this is a great idea. From
my
own personal perspective, I would advise people to make sure that they are
emotionally balanced before seeking out such an initiation. A person
should have
done plenty of emotional work on themselves in order to harmonize their
phobias,
manias, victim mentalities, co-dependencies, attachments and aversions. If
one has
not sufficiently harmonized with respect to these things, Kundalini will
force you to
deal with it, and in a much faster and forceful manner than you may be
prepared for.
I certainly don't want to frighten the uninitiated, but this is a solemn
matter and not to
be undertaken lightly. Going for such initiation is not like going for
reiki training or
attending some new age self-improvement workshop. Once Kundalini has been
awakened, you have entered a one-way street, and there is no turning back
if you
find you don't like the experiences.
Personally, I was not initiated in this life. My initiation occurred many
lifetimes ago, and
as such it awakens of its own accord in each successive incarnation. So,
that is another
thing to consider: once awakened, it has forever been awakened and will
work upon you
until its ultimate aim has been achieved - no matter how many lifetimes
that takes. Pandora
cannot be put back in her box, or yours.
It is my observation that there are indeed people out there who are
evolved enough to
grant shakitpat, but who yet lack the depth of vision to fathom which
souls are yet to young
to deal with such power. It only takes an accomplished mystic to start the
process, but not
all mystics are awakened. Consequently, not all the "shaktipat masters"
can sufficiently see
the emotional baggage and karma that a person is carrying around. In my
opinion, that is a
requisite to granting shaktipat. I would not want to bear the karma of
such fools who tamper
with other people's Kundalini while yet being asleep themselves.
Finally, I would say that if you're going to go ahead and receive
shaktipat, you should know
ahead of time the anatomy of Kundalini and the meditations you must do
when (not if)
Kundalini tries to make a trip up just one of the channels.
Again, I have not stated the above to cause anyone fear of the process,
but it is one of the
truly pivotal moments out of a soul's multitude of incarnations, and
should be approached
with such solemnity and awareness of mind.
Just my opinion,
Ron Grimes
------------
jim privacy wrote:
> Dear Martin:
>
> >I know of two individuals who can give this type of initiation. There
> are more, I am sure of that, but I can only verify these two for sure.
>
> I am of course curious. Can you name the 2 Shaktipat Masters you have
> confidence in? Private Email is ok, too. Thanks.
>
> Love, -Jim
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 19:25:45 -0600
From: Ron Grimes <rogrimeATnospamibm.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Kundalini/Shaktipat
Message-ID: <35CFABA9.B8357CABATnospamibm.net>
This is a resend, since the last one didn't lay out correctly.
-----------
All of this talk about awakening Kundalini by a Shaktipat master inclines me to issue a
bit of warning to newbies who may think this is a great idea. From my own personal
perspective, I would advise people to make sure that they are emotionally balanced before
seeking out such an initiation. A person should have done plenty of emotional work on
themselves in order to harmonize their phobias, manias, victim mentalities,
co-dependencies, attachments and aversions. If one has not sufficiently harmonized with
respect to these things, Kundalini will force you to deal with it, and in a much faster
and forceful manner than you may be prepared for. I certainly don't want to frighten the
uninitiated, but this is a solemn matter and not to be undertaken lightly. Going for such
initiation is not like going for reiki training or attending some new age self-improvement
workshop. Once Kundalini has been awakened, you have entered a one-way street, and there
is no turning back if you find you don't like the experiences.
Personally, I was not initiated in this life. My initiation occurred many lifetimes ago,
and as such it awakens of its own accord in each successive incarnation. So, that is
another thing to consider: once awakened, it has forever been awakened and will work upon
you until its ultimate aim has been achieved - no matter how many lifetimes that takes.
Pandora cannot be put back in her box, or yours.
It is my observation that there are indeed people out there who are evolved enough to
grant shakitpat, but who yet lack the depth of vision to fathom which souls are yet to
young to deal with such power. It only takes an accomplished mystic to start the process,
but not all mystics are awakened. Consequently, not all the "shaktipat masters" can
sufficiently see the emotional baggage and karma that a person is carrying around. In my
opinion, that is a requisite to granting shaktipat. I would not want to bear the karma of
such fools who tamper with other people's Kundalini while yet being asleep themselves.
Finally, I would say that if you're going to go ahead and receive shaktipat, you should
know ahead of time the anatomy of Kundalini and the meditations you must do when (not if)
Kundalini tries to make a trip up just one of the channels.
Again, I have not stated the above to cause anyone fear of the process, but it is one of
the truly pivotal moments out of a soul's multitude of incarnations, and should be
approached with such solemnity and awareness of mind.
Just my opinion,
Ron Grimes
------------
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 19:38:36 -0600
From: Ron Grimes <rogrimeATnospamibm.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: A burning question
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freda larson wrote:
> As a female K-lister I think it would be nice to make a bloody issue of
> this !
> There seems to be precious little for we women .....
> bonkin' or no bonkin'
> freda
ROFL... Love the honesty of your e-mail. Speaking to this issue, I have had an observation
and a question that I dared not ask previously for several obvious reasons, but since the
issue has been opened, here goes...
Since my own K awakening in this life, and as the evolution of that energy increases, I
have noticed that my wife's orgasms continue to reach new levels, as well as do her
mystical states of mind during them. Any like observations by fellow Kundalites?
Thanks,
Ron Grimes
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 11:48:43 +1000
From: "jacqueline barnes" <brushATnospamjeack.com.au>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Fw: kundalini physiology
Message-Id: <199808111148.LAA07788ATnospamaxis.jeack.com.au>
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> From: jacqueline barnes <brushATnospamjeack.com.au>
> To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
> Subject: kundalini physiology
> Date: Tuesday, August 04, 1998 1:44 PM
>
> Hi Gyani, you asked
> > how you maintain a balanced aura?
> to be mindful at all times( I try), twice daily meditation & devotional
> practises, non-attachment to what ever shows up. I am not always
balanced,
> but the more I practice the more skilled I become.
>
> >Your experiences of Kundalini?
> They are too numerous to remember and write. Lets just say that when my
> Kundalini was awakened 6 years ago it has been full on ever since.
Weidness
> has become the norm. My life and that of my son has adjusted accordingly.
I
> have gradually learnt not to attatch to phenomena and mindstates ( not
> perfected yet), it is pointless as everything is constantly changing -
> everything is impermanent. If you think you have worked it out you
haven't,
> if you think you understand you don"t, and if you think that you can
> explain you can't. The healing process that K takes you on is entirely
> unique to you, it is a journey that you take alone and it takes great
> courage. I try to be loving and supportive and compassionate of others as
> they go through their growth experiences as I know what its like.
>
> >Did you experience K at age 20?
> I had shaktipat at 35, I was not even aware of the potential outcome of
> this initiation, it was just meant to be.
> God probably didn't want me to know, I probably would have thought about
it
> too much and chickened out. For all the hard times its still worth it.
>
> Sorry I have been so long winded in answering.
>
> Love to all Brush.
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 98 22:20:34 -0500
From: Marybeth Gottshall <kmgATnospamtaconic.net>
To: <rogrimeATnospamibm.net>, <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: A burning question
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Ron Grimes wrote:
>Since my own K awakening in this life, and as the evolution of that energy
>increases, I
>have noticed that my wife's orgasms continue to reach new levels, as well
>as do her
>mystical states of mind during them. Any like observations by fellow
>Kundalites?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Ron Grimes
Maybe her kundalini is awakened too? Maybe it's contagious!
Marybeth
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 23:30:29 EDT
From: MoonrisempATnospamaol.com
To: rogrimeATnospamibm.net, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: A burning question
Message-ID: <565385af.35cfbad7ATnospamaol.com>
Ron,
To answer your question, I have had some of the same experiences. My last
boyfriend and I went to places I knew existed , but had never been. I went to
past lives with him and once I exploded into the universe and became this
golden essence and went to the great, great silent void. I became one with it.
I could hear and feel the silence. He did not go with me. I asked several of
my girlfriends if they had had the same experience and they did not know what
I was talking about. I have not been with anyone else since we parted ways. I
look at sex as sacred now.
I have been reading the posts on this list and I am very grateful to be on
this list and have had a lot of questions answered and have a lot of
information. I live in the Bible Belt and a lot of people here are too uptight
or closed minded to even think of Kundalini. So, this list is great for me. I
know that I have graduated the Jacksonville energy and will shortly be moving
to the West. I look forward to the move and believe I will find others that I
can discuss these topics with more openly. It really is hard to find people to
take it seriously her and to give you an honest opinion or answer.
Thanks again for the honest dialog,
Barbara
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 12:07:25 -0400
From: hyperATnospamhmt.com (HMT)
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Shakti Masters
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>All of this talk about awakening Kundalini by a Shaktipat master inclines me
>to issue a
>bit of warning to newbies who may think this is a great idea.
Not to worry. How much Shakti you receive (take) and how much you retain
really depends on the container (your body) you bring and your temperament.
Not much development, only a little will come to you. Lots of development,
lots will flow to you.
The Shakti is intelligent and gives each one what he/she needs.
Also, the Master removes any blockages at the time of initiation. You come
under the protection of the Master and the lineage.
Naturally it is always a good idea to research and study the Master and his
lineage and to use discriminating awareness.
My experience has been that Shaktipat has enhanced everyone that I've seen
get it. I'm not promoting it. It's a personal choice.
Worldly people blossom in worldly ways and spiritual people blossom in
spiritual ways.
I've never seen Shakti hurt anyone.
It's written in the scriptures that people who try to initiate themselves
by doing yogic practices irritate the Kundalini and usually have negative
results.
What Ron said about the flame staying lit once it's lit is true. It never
goes out. Ever. Watch out what you wish for. You might get it.
Kriyas bothering you and others around you?
Try chocolate and/or bananas.
Martin
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 12:36:31 -0400
From: hyperATnospamhmt.com (HMT)
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: sex
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For those who missed the instruction from the Vijnanabhairava on the
correct use of sex for merging with the Divine because it was at the bottom
of a Shaivism post, here it is.
Most of an individual's energy goes into digesting food and procreative
processes. People who are doing serious Sadhana usually eat light, easily
assimilatible foods and abstain from sex.
Its' a voluntary choice, not a requirement.
Then, all that energy is available for use in your Sadhana (your spiritual
journey).
Btw...newbies... once you start your Sadhana (spiritual journey), it never
ends. Ever.
People are warned in the beginning when they are thinking of starting a
Sadhana that once they start, they can never go back.
That is the big decision one must make, and a decision which happens way
before one finds out about Kundalini, Shaktipat, or anything else.
******
The Vijnananbhairava is 112 yogas for merging with the Divine catagorized
into 8 bases of yoga as follows:
1. Prana -- Here's where instruction on what happens to the ol'
Kundalini upon awakening, etc.is to be found.
2. Japa (mantra repetition)
3. Bhanvana- creative contemplation
4. Sunya (void)
5. Experience of Vastness or Extensive Space
6. Intensity of experience
7. Mudras and Asanas
The instructions on the use of sex as a yoga are not in the Prana base with
the Kundalini where you would expect them. They are in #6. Intensity of
experience.
>From the Vijnanabhairava:
"Even in the intensity of sensuous experience, one can have the experience
of the Divine, provided one is careful to track the joy felt on such
occasions to its source.
"The first one is of the joy felt in sexual intercourse mentioned in the
verses 69-70. It should be borne in mind that this example is given only to
illustrate the intensity of experience in union. From physical union, one's
attention has to be directed to spiritual union. This does not advocate
sexual indulgence. The notes on these verses should be carefully read....."
"Sex is an example of the joy of intensive experience derived from Sparsa or
contact."
Dharana 46 Verse 69
"At the time of sexual intercourse with a woman, an absorption into her (1)
is brought about by excitement, and the final delight that ensues at orgasm
betokens the delight of Bhahman. This delight is (in reality) that of one's
Self.
NOTES:
1. This absorption is only symbolic of the absorption in the Divine Energy.
This illustration has been given only to show that the highest delight
ensues only at the disappearance of duality. Sivopadhyaya quotes a verse
which clarifies the esoteric meaning of this union. "Just as being locked
in embrace with a woman, one is totally dissolved in the feeling of
one-ness (unity) and one loses all sense of anything external or internal,
even so when the mind is dissolved in the Divine Energy, one loses all
sense of duality and experiences the delight of unity-consciousness. The
Sruti (scripture) speaks of the union with a woman only to illustrate the
union with the Divine. It is only a fool who takes this illustration as an
injunction for carnal pleasure.
2. The delight is that of one's own Self. It does not come from any
external source. The woman is only an occassion for the manifestation of
that delight"
DHARANA 47 Verse 70
"O goddess, even in the absence of a woman, there is a flood of delight,
simply by the intensity of the memory of sexual pleasure in the form of
kissing, embracing, pressing, etc.
NOTES:
Since the sexual pleasure is obtained simply by memory even in the absence
of a woman, it is evident that the delight is inherent within. It is this
delight apart from any woman that one shoud meditate on in order to realize
the bliss of the divine consciousness"
*******
and..... for the Musicians in the crowd:
Dharana 18 Verse 41
"If one listens with undivided attention to sounds of stringed and other
musical instruments which on account of their (uninterrupted) succession
are
prolonged,(1) he will, at the end (2) be absorbed in the ether of
consciousness (and thus attain the nature of Bhairava)
NOTES:
1. The resonance of musical notes lasts for a long time and being melodious
it attracts the attention of the listener. Even when it stops, it still
reverberates in the mind of the listener. The listener becomes greatly
engrossed in it. A musical note, if properly produced, appears to arise out
of eternity and finally to disappear in it.
2. When the music stops, it still vibrates in the memory. If the yogi does
not allow his mind to wander to something else, but concentrate on the
echo of the music, he will be absorbed in the source of all sound, viz;
Paravak, and thus will acquire the nature of Bhairava."
Pretty cool....
martin
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 21:31:10 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: Marybeth Gottshall <kmgATnospamtaconic.net>
Cc: <rogrimeATnospamibm.net>, <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: A burning question
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Well, sure. You are sending K-fire up her spine.. sex is a fun way to
Shaktipat. I think that is part of the reason for the ashram scandals..
folks don't understand.
In fact, one source of my abundant energy, is the many unknown fellas who
pleasure themselves while looking at my pix.. they are casting spells on
themselves with their fantasies of submission, to send their sexual energy
off to my purposes. I have a spell set up to redirect the energy up to
Goddess, and She repays it back to them.. I get some of what comes back down.
It was not my intention, to be fueled by my advertising, in that way..
but after a while I realized that it was happening, .. partly from men who
were calling me up to tell me so, after taking a year or more to gather the
courage to do so.. seems my higher self shows up to accept the offering..
and when I figgered out the side effects my photos were having, I set
structures in place to take care of the transaction, for the good of all..
so some fellas are growing by shaktizap via erotic fantasy. Go figger..
Blessings, Mystress.
At 10:20 PM 10/08/98 -0500, Marybeth Gottshall wrote:
>Ron Grimes wrote:
>
>>Since my own K awakening in this life, and as the evolution of that energy
>>increases, I
>>have noticed that my wife's orgasms continue to reach new levels, as well
>>as do her
>>mystical states of mind during them. Any like observations by fellow
>>Kundalites?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Ron Grimes
>
>Maybe her kundalini is awakened too? Maybe it's contagious!
>
>Marybeth
>
>
>
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