1998/08/03 18:06
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #545
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 545
Today's Topics: RE: Age of Aquarius [ "Roberto Gonzales del Valle" ]
k [ "Paul West" ] chakre piercing [ Maureen Heffernan
To: "Charles Attfield" Cc: "Kundalini List"
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Hi Charles, Ron and all list
members:
I also feel the changes coming from a new era. Maybe it is not due to Aquarius. But I sense people from all over are getting aware of many
things. Magne Aga mentioned something about that in his last post.
The internet for instace is a powerful tool of comunication for people like us.
I hope that someday soon mankind as a whole begin to get
to right track. Earth needs some healing. Too much greed has damaged the planet a lot, and by that way it has made a big deal with people living in it.
Let´s hope times to come are better so we can find a way to live in peace and harmony.
A lot of Love is needed.
Hopefully we will all get there.
Love to you all
Roberto
Lima, Perú.
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Message----- Unfortunately, the correction factor
(Ayanamsa) used to determine where in the actual constellations are the commencing points of the various signs is a subject of much debate.
Consequently the actual date for the commencement of the Age of Aquarius varies also. The Ayanamsa quoted by Ron sounds like that given by the Indian
Government which had a correction factor for January 1st, 1950 of 23 degrees, 9 minutes. The famous Indian Astrologer Raman gave it as 21
degrees, 42 minutes while Fagan-Bradley gave it as 24 degrees, 2 minutes. According to Sri Yukteswar, Yogananda's Guru the age of Aquarius will
commence in A.D. 499. Others make it much sooner.
However, I would think that the energies of the Aquarian age will be felt long before the actual time that the vernal equinox moves
into Aquarius, and the Piscean energies could still linger for a long time after. As such it can be said that we are in the 'Dawning of the Age of
Aquarius' and can feel the effects already.
Chas
-----Original Message-----From: Ron Grimes <rogrimeATnospamibm.net>To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>Date:
Saturday, 1 August 1998 7:36Subject: Re: Age of AquariusThe much talked about Age of Aquarius will
not be here for another 444 years. The Age of Aquarius has to do with the phenomenon known as the precession of the equinoxes. The vernal
equinox is the point on earth at which the Sun crosses the celestial equator in its apparent journey from south to north. This never occurs
at the same point each year; instead it occurs approximately 50.07 seconds west of where it crossed the previous year.
Because the Western astrologer sets the 1st zodiac sign Aries at the time of the vernal equinox, their zodiac is moving backward throught the
background of the actual constellations themselves. Therefore, the Western zodiac sign Aries actually now starts at 6 deg 10 min 30 seconds
Pisces. So, at the precessional rate of 50.07 seconds/year, it will take another 444 years before the vernal equinox occurs in the sign of
Aquarius. Sorry, unless we achieve divya deha, these bodies will not be here to
see it. - Ron --------
Roberto Gonzales del Valle wrote: Many people are talking
about changes coming in the Age of Aquarius. Changes which I believe in. What I wish to know is when will the Age of Aquarius
arrive. Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 02:15:47 -0700
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Barbara,
Could you please tell me where I can read/find out more about replacing
portions of myself that I feel might be missing. Have had a couple of times where I felt different, less than I was - like a piece of me was missing.
Both times where trama, once when I had a near death during the birth of a son and once when I was despondant after my divorce. I must tell you that I
am a beginner on this path and was drawn to this list. I haven't experienced kundalini as of yet, but wanted to learn and absorb - thus no postings until
now.
Thank you all for your postings!!!! What an oasis!
In love, light and laughter, Sunshine
-----Original Message----- From: MoonrisempATnospamaol.com
To: KCliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Date: Monday, July 27, 1998 7:30 PM Subject: Re: What was it?
>Katherine, >
>It is very possible that you had a part of you leave you. I had 3 "pieces" of
>myself brought back by a Shaman a few years ago. I have felt a difference >since they returned. It seems as he described it, whenever there is a
trauma >in your life or you are depressed, that is the time you usually leave or
give >up a part of you that cannot live in the situation you are in. I say that I
>existed instaed of living at those times. I am now awake and living life more
>aware and awake than ever. So, I would say from my own experiences and from >what I have read and heard from others, you want to have all your parts
back! >
>Hope this helps and thank you for sharing your story with us. >
>Barbara >
> Date: 3 Aug 98 14:46:37 +0000
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Hi.
It was just getting to the point yesterday where I noticed that there
didn't seem to be any kundalini activity at the moment. I didn't aknowledge that this might mean something could happen real soon. You
aren't in the right state of mind to do that when you're affirming that K is doing nothing, because all that K does is that nothingness
that is something.
Anyway, last night I had a k dream. I had gone down in a lift with my sister and mother and some bloke and we were now standing on a
concrete floor of a sort of large garage or loading bay. A large metal-shutter type door was raised, apparently where vans and trucks
would pull up. He talked of there being a machine of some kind, which was a test. I got the impression there were very heavy blocks of solid
metal and that things would be squeezed flat like some giant industrial scrap-metal compressor. Ie, that if you got into the wrong
place the machine caught you out you would be surely flat. Me and my mother then found ourselves outside the room looking in. The bloke was
standing at the back wall next to my younger sister. She looked a bit scared and I really didn't think she had what was necessary to succeed
at this (that was my own self).
My sister now arrived outside with us and I looked in. There was light coming from above but had no source. The man, who was now of the
appearance of Mick Jagger, who was the image of total unlikelyness, moved to the center of the room and began to do a sort of martial art.
The machine started up but whatever he was doing seemed to prevent it from doing anything to kill him. In fact, he had his legs crossed and
he was levitating like Buddha. I wathched and he did these movements as if a martial art and I thought that was joking but he seemed to be
serious. And so he remained there floating, not moving anywhere, and it was this stillness that achieved success.
Now, on seeing this I found myself sitting on the floor near enough
where he had been, with my legs crossed. There started to be pulses of energy and little thumps like distant thunder in my body. Then, as if
it were fully formed but that it were gradually becoming visible, a raging swirling tornado was spinning through my whole body. I got a
little bit scared and tried to stop it. I saw these `blocks' starting to rush at the energy throughout my body but when I did this things
felt very uncomfortable and that I was fighting with it. I realised there was not going to be any way to stop it so I let myself be taken
along by it. The tornado intensified and there was an experience of light or being higher up somehow. I was kind of empty and transparent.
When I woke up this morning, or rather afternoon, I found there had
been a powercut. It is quite windy outside. While in the bathroom I started to get this feeling that there were some lessons that had been
completed and that didn't need to be done again. That was a really nice feeling, of relief, very different to the remorse that leaves me
stranded like a child never truly making any progress. I feel that there are certain intellectual struggles which won't happen anymore.
I find it interesting that in the dream there was nothing to do with
having to kill the ego. Rather, it was more like bringing it to life. That's really wierd.
My intuition has been working strongly just lately. Its span of time
has increased. Normally it works on a second or half-second's notice but I have been having 30-second intuitions. We had a major lightening
storm here a couple of days ago. There was a very bright flash and I had no fear and I didn't even remember that thunder would follow. When
the thunder hit it put fear into my heart. Actually there, right in the middle. Totally rocked me inside out, it was so close. But I had
no fear. And I was really very happy after that. I laughed and called God a bastard, because I felt like I had asked for it. Earlier that
day I had been getting intuitions that there was going to be a storm. It didn't even look like that sort of a day. I thought that maybe I
asked for there to be one, and that it was given, which was hilarious.
-- Paul.
IRC: #amiga, Dalnet: #blitz
WWW: http://www.stationone.demon.co.uk E-M: paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk
Date: 3 Aug 98 14:58:03 +0000 From: "Paul West"
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com Subject: Re: What was it?
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> Could you please tell me where I can read/find out more about replacing > portions of myself that I feel might be missing. Have had a couple of times
> where I felt different, less than I was - like a piece of me was missing. > Both times where trama, once when I had a near death during the birth of a
> son and once when I was despondant after my divorce. I must tell you that I > am a beginner on this path and was drawn to this list. I haven't experienced
> kundalini as of yet, but wanted to learn and absorb - thus no postings until > now.
You must claim every attitude and appearance as being part of your
whole self. You are in heaven so anything that seems contrary to that is something in your own mind. What you do is you break off a piece of
your self and remodel it and reshape it and this is what an attitude is. When you see the thing you associate it with you map it onto the
thing and then scorn and blame and offend at it. Generally this is fear. I have seen myself do it to spiders. So long as you have an
opinion about stuff it must mean that you have many fragments in your view of the world. When you only have one opinion of way of looking at
life as a whole you are clear and complete.
I had a dream where I was looking into three mirrors and in each was a major chunky of my attitude towards the world. I saw that these were
me, part of my own `body' if you like. I had broken them off and called then `other' and associated them with external worldy
attatchments, but in truth they were like limbs of my own self. Once this was realised there was less inner conflict.
I was downstairs about an hour ago sitting next to my mother whilst I
ate my lunch. She asked my sister if she wanted to play a game of chess. I got up and went to the kitchen, as I had finished eating. She
said to myself "you can't sit there, Paul is sitting there". Obviously I wasn't as I was in the kitchen and personally was intending to
then go elsewhere. It demonstrates the point though, an attitude about the world based on the past is deceptive. Makes you believe things are
there which aren't. I was down at the bus-stop once. I thought I heard the bus coming but I wasn't facing in the right direction to see it. I
swear that I saw a bus standing right there, but when I turned my head there was no such thing. I had made it up in my mind. Also similar
things have happened with people I have not got along with, like I will scorn at them in my mind but to turn around and they're not even
there or it's somebody totally different. You get to realise that you are abusing a thing inside of yourself, a part of your own mind. You
break it off and shape it to fit the enemy and then you beat it up. Must stop doing that. Must stop accusing yourself of being lost.
That's all you need to do, just realise you're making part of yourself be an embodiment of the loss. Just plug it back into the whole.
--
Paul.
IRC: #amiga, Dalnet: #blitz WWW: http://www.stationone.demon.co.uk
E-M: paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 10:48:48 -0400
From: melintonATnospamalison.sbc.edu To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
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Since joining the k-list my spiritual life is riding a rocket. Books fall into my hands faster than I can read them and when I do open them I find
incredible guidance. I find myself channeling responses to people here whose requests for help or information ping me for a response. Interactions
with people day to day have taken on multiple layers of learning and insight. I'm starting to regain a form of vision I remember having as a
kid.
I just have to join the others saying Thank you Mystress for providing this incredible forum!!!
Loving you all, SignalFire
"I'd be friends with the sparrows and the boy who shoots the
arrows if I only had a brain." --the Scarecrow
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 10:26:50 -0400 From: melintonATnospamalison.sbc.edu
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Marybeth:
I have never had this experience, but it immediately brought to mind a passage that I had read recently in "Brahmanada: Sound, Mantra and Power"
by Shri Dayanyogi Madhusudandasji. He talks about terrifying explosions in his head, followed by the perception of circles of light, followed by
a state of deep meditation, and says that this went on for fifteen days. After a doctor told him that there was nothing wrong with him, he
received an answer from within that this was the piercing of the chakras.
SignalFire:
I've had this happen too. At least a couple of times. My question, to all the experienced K-yoga folks here is this ...
How can you tell if your chakras have been pierced? Its not just a lack of
"blocked symptoms" is it? If they have been pierced, wouldn't this indicate that the K was in the correct channel? So how can you tell they have been
pierced???? Please don't say "you just know". TIA --signalFire
"I'd be friends with the sparrows and the boy who shoots the
arrows if I only had a brain." --the Scarecrow
Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1998 09:33:56 PDT From: "John Phillips"
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My first post,
I have not exp. K. yet, but would like too. I do yoga, and other various things and can feel my energy rising. But I need some
instruction of Yoga exersizes I could do to increase K. or my chances of it. I meditate and practice self hypnosis a bit, on a s.h. list too,
but I feel since I had cronic fatique syndrom (epstien barr viris) in my blood, I used to sleep over 12 hours a day, then I got into herbs and
such so much that I lead a normal life and the cronic fatique hasn't came back but once and it lasted for about 3 months the last time. I
want to get my energy up so much that I won't have to worry about getting the fatique back ever again. If anyone else has cfs let me know
I can give tips on overcoming the effects of it too.
Thanks in advance, John
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>Anyway, last night I had a k dream. I had gone down in a lift with my >sister and mother and some bloke and we were now standing on a
{dream snipped}
>I find it interesting that in the dream there was nothing to do with >having to kill the ego. Rather, it was more like bringing it to life.
>That's really wierd. >
Natural actually. Weird only because we have been brought up to think of
ego as a negative quality. It can be negative if it is identified as the Self, given a superior position, given ownership of all you perceive and do.
But in relation to the Kundalini energy or the Self, ego is just one aspect of our being and it owns nothing.
You spoke of qualities being brought to life and I think you have
experienced that Kundalini will bring to life intensely the basic aspects of your being. You find yourself intensely: emotional, filled with love,
filled with ego, depressed, joyful, intellectual, confused, sexual, etc. These qualities should be seen in their proper position - in relation to the
Self.
Disengage the ownership of these qualities from your ego (who likes to claim everything as "mine") and return them and the ego to their rightful owner -
the Self. Honor your ego and the qualities brought to life as vehicles to Self-realization. Doing this brings balance, non-attachment, silence,
enhancement of true perception.
Nothing you have is "yours". Nothing you think belongs to "you" does.
It can be a difficult habit to break. Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 14:27:55 EDT
From: DruoutATnospamaol.com To: melintonATnospamalison.sbc.edu, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
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In a message dated 98-08-03 11:00:35 EDT, melintonATnospamalison.sbc.edu writes:
< it immediately brought to mind a
passage that I had read recently in "Brahmanada: Sound, Mantra and Power" by Shri Dayanyogi Madhusudandasji. He talks about terrifying explosions
in his head, followed by the perception of circles of light, >>
Dear List,
I've been curious about these explosions, also. For me they often cause breathlessness, eye "clouding", and near swooning--but they spiral from
perinium to the brain--no chakra or spine involvement--so Singlefires question interests me, too! (How do we know chakra's are pierced?). During the night
they are accompanied frequently with brilliant symbols--Sometimes E=MC2.--a metaphor, I presume. Is this a form of cleansing? It's been going on for
nearly 2 years now without much change in intensity. Is it simply transformed sexual energy??
Love, Hillary
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 14:57:29 EDT From: DruoutATnospamaol.com
To: rogrimeATnospamibm.net, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com Subject: Re: Increased K. Experiences
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In a message dated 98-08-02 11:00:51 EDT, rogrimeATnospamibm.net writes:
< I was just wondering if anyone has noticed whether their own K. experiences have increased since joining this list and making contact
with others of like experiences? >>
Dear list,
I certainly get blissed out frequently from many of the posts. But what is so wonderful is the support and information shared here--There are few messages I
haven't learned from.
Love, Hillary Date: 3 Aug 98 22:49:03 +0000
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HI.
This morning I had a dream. I've already posted it. But I left out one
detail which just came to me. Right at the very end of the dream after everything else, my mother was standing to the right of me. I had so
much energy in me that I suddenly decided to dissipate it through her. I quickly put out my right hand and placed it on her left forearm. It
`burned' a bluey-purply heart shape onto her arm. Not a painful burn, some other kind.
--
Paul.
IRC: #amiga, Dalnet: #blitz WWW: http://www.stationone.demon.co.uk
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SignalFire: > How can you tell if your chakras have been pierced? Its not just a lack of
> "blocked symptoms" is it? If they have been pierced, wouldn't > this indicate
> that the K was in the correct channel? So how can you tell they have been > pierced???? Please don't say "you just know". TIA
Jan: When the knot of a chakra is being pierced, you can feel it as a kind
of uneasiness in the chakra. This happens, when your attention is always centered on K. If attention isn't centered on K. or insufficiently, there
will be unexplainable urges like eating, doing something, a sudden shift in 'outlook' on one's life, the world. This will continue until the chakra is
pierced. The reason for mental brahmacarya (mb) is, the sexual drive can be among the urges. Only an adept in mb will know (s)he is being hoodwinked by
the senses. When the piercing (untying of the knot) is over, great relief will be experienced and the urges will be gone (until the next untying will
start). With incorrect channels I have no experience. BTW, chakras without knots +should+ be pierced without being aware of it.
Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1998 20:56:36 +0000 From: Maureen Heffernan
To: kundalini Subject: chakre piercing
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Hi, I love living today in these times, when people get their bellies
pierced for a belly ring and their chakras pierced. Sorry, it just struck me funny.
I work with tuning forks and the scale on different centers and its fascinating to observe the changes,reduction or expansion or increased
activity of them. Please share more about the pierced aspect.
Thank you.
More Light.
+ Maureen
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