1998/08/02 21:49
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #544
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 544
Today's Topics: Increased K. Experiences - correctio [ Ron Grimes ]
tuning fork [ Maureen Heffernan ] Re: Increased K. Experiences [ "Paul West" ]
Re: Age of Aquarius [ "Charles Attfield" To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
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Ron Grimes wrote:
> I really appreciate this list which gives us the ability to check their
> experiences with other Kundalites.
Good grief. Should be "check our experiences..." Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 11:15:05 +0000
From: Maureen Heffernan To: kundalini
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Yes Ron,
I am pleased that I joined also. It goes from the bizarre to the inspirational. Always interesting.And once in a while upon reading a
particularly moving post, the crown chakra spins and burns its beautiful dance.
(Smile, bet you also check spelling everytime,right?) More Light,
+ Maureen Date: Sun, 2 Aug 98 11:21:56 -0500
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You said:
>I was just wondering if anyone has noticed whether their own K. >experiences have increased since joining this list and making contact
>with others of like experiences? Mine certainly has. I was thinking that >maybe it's sort of like the tuning fork concept.
Yes, it makes me more attuned to phenomena that I hadn't really
particularly noticed before, and once noticed, and attention is given, they seem to increase.
>But, I also wanted to convey a couple of other experiences to see if
>they resonate with anyone else. Do any of you remember a rocking or >swaying motion of the energy within the pelvic region around the time K.
>began to rise? I definitely remember that, and it wasn't a visible >motion, but kind of felt like my own little tidal wave of energy moving
>back and forth. The other experience I have had is going from the dream >state into a place of nothing but light, bliss, and consciousness. It
>doesn't feel like I woke up and experienced this, but it feels like I >passed into a state of consciousness beyond sleep. Maybe turiya? Anyway,
>that's happened several times and I was just curious as to other >like-experiences.
When I had the initial K. "blast off" I was awakened to a strong pulsing
in what I later learned was the muladhara chakra, and the feeling that the legs were being sawed off my bed. The whole bed seemed to be rocking
and swaying. Quite scary. I have also gone from the dream state to this feeling of light, bliss and consciousness, usually accompanied by a
gentle, or not-so-gentle vibration and electrical humming, sometines followed by a feeling of levitation, or sometimes a lucid dream of
flying. The state of consciousness is, for me. an awareness of being in another state of consciousness, not a dream, but like a wholly other
mental dimension that I know I will eventually come out of to return to the "normal" world.
>I really appreciate this list which gives us the ability to check their
>experiences with other Kundalites. Special thanks to Mystress; may she >be blessed richly.
> >- Ron
Ditto. 100%.
-Marybeth
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 98 11:35:30 -0500 From: Marybeth Gottshall
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Ron-
I said:
>The state of consciousness is, for me. an awareness of being in another state
>of consciousness, .....
Oops, that should have been a comma after "me", not a period. Guess we all make typos.
Love, Marybeth
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 98 11:54:18 -0500 From: Marybeth Gottshall
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Hey, Kundalites-
Can someone please let me know if my last two emails (Re: Increased K.
Experiences and Re: Increased K. Experiences 2) got posted? They showed up in my In Box, but I got "Mail failure" notices that they had not been
delivered. Sorry, I'm relatively new at this and a techno-moron. Please don't be mad, Mystress. I will try to learn from this experience.
Thanks,
Marybeth Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 10:30:14 -0600
From: Ron Grimes To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
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Marybeth Gottshall wrote:
> Can someone please let me know if my last two emails (Re: Increased K.
> Experiences and Re: Increased K. Experiences 2) got posted? They showed > up in my In Box, but I got "Mail failure" notices that they had not been
> delivered.
Yes, they got here. I get a "Mail failure" notice every time I post to the list, but I just ignore them, since they obviously did get to the right
destination.
- Ron Date: 2 Aug 98 18:01:34 +0000
From: "Paul West" To: rogrimeATnospamibm.net, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
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> I was just wondering if anyone has noticed whether their own K.
> experiences have increased since joining this list and making contact > with others of like experiences? Mine certainly has. I was thinking that
> maybe it's sort of like the tuning fork concept.
My own joining to the list was at the same time as a quite vigorous period of k activities and only intensified in the time I have been
here, but seemingly there is nothing much going on right now.
-- Paul.
IRC: #amiga, Dalnet: #blitz
WWW: http://www.stationone.demon.co.uk E-M: paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk
Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 17:39:44 -0700 From: Mystress Angelique Serpent
To: rogrimeATnospamibm.net Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
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At 08:59 AM 02/08/98 -0600, Ron Grimes wrote: >I was just wondering if anyone has noticed whether their own K.
>experiences have increased since joining this list and making contact >with others of like experiences? Mine certainly has. I was thinking that
>maybe it's sort of like the tuning fork concept.
Of course, Ron.. (giggle) That is a part of the list's purpose. K. gets excited around the presence of K. Many folks who join the list seeking help
with specific issues, have those issues clear up pretty quickly. Partly from getting the words they need, to surrender, but the energy exchange
plays a key role. We shaktizap each other, with every email. Even the lurkers.. giving
attention to reading someone's writing, is a kind of surrender to them that sends the author energy back, in exchange for the energy received of their
art=writing that is sent out. Goddess has it handled. That is why I almost never (only once) unsub someone for misbehaving.
Misbehavior is asking for help, and Goddess provides.. there have been a lot of healings on this list. I am motivated to great patience, coz I have
seen it happen so many times. It is of greater value to me, to hang out with it and watch for miracles, mebbie poke the process along a bit :) than
to exercise my power of rejection. The creation of the Lighthouse of the list, which I have mentioned, was
simply a clarification of a process that was already happening. I just moved it.. the K-list computer doesn't act up from the Shakti of our posts
anymore, coz it handles the mail and the Lighthouse handles the Shakti exchange. Where two or more are gathered, works just fine in cyberspace.
Blessed be.
>Do any of you remember a rocking or
>swaying motion of the energy within the pelvic region around the time K. >began to rise?
I call it the serpent dance. It is common especially in the first few weeks after awakening, but continues to show up on occasion, always. It is
the energy spiralling up the serpents. If you pay close attention to surrendering to the motion, you will find it is actually more of a
spiraling twist. It is a tide that tends to flow with the rhythm of breathing, or in sync with a slow heart beat.
.. or it is the tide of the planet, that we feel when we are in sync with it.. which came first? A healer vibrates at the same rate as the
planet, in order to heal. K. is earth energy, moved by the sun and moon cycles, and that of all the
celestial spheres throughout the hologram. All of the Hologram is within us. August is usually intense for me, and I have been feeling some
interesting energy building, and some troubled stories on the list tell me it is so for others, as well. At this place August is nice.. I have had
some pretty awful ones tho, in past times.
>I definitely remember that, and it wasn't a visible >motion, but kind of felt like my own little tidal wave of energy moving
>back and forth. Surrender to it more deeply and it will manifest as a physical motion.
You are feeling your energy body doing Kriyas that your physical body isn't following along with.
>The other experience I have had is going from the dream
>state into a place of nothing but light, bliss, and consciousness. It >doesn't feel like I woke up and experienced this, but it feels like I
>passed into a state of consciousness beyond sleep. Maybe turiya? Anyway, >that's happened several times and I was just curious as to other
>like-experiences. You were enjoying existence form the perspective of your higher self.
Nice, ain't it? hee hee.. >
>I really appreciate this list which gives us the ability to check their >experiences with other Kundalites. Special thanks to Mystress; may she
>be blessed richly. >
>- Ron So mote it be.. I am feeling richly blessed.
I have been on the list longer than most, to enjoy the shaktizap effect and grow from the company of Kundalites. I was born awakened, but this list
has helped me to expand into my potential. This past two years has been very rich.
Thankyou, and may Goddess shower her blessings on you. Mystress. Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 18:02:07 PDT
From: "jim privacy" To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, rogrimeATnospamibm.net
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Dear Ron:
Yes, my symptoms have definitely increased in intensity since joining this list. Lots of new experiences, too.
Hard for me to say what is cause and what is effect. Perhaps the Spirit
brought me here to get support, knowing in advance that my symptoms will increase. Or, maybe I had an unconscious (or, conscious!) desire for
increased k activity, and my joining this list is just one of my new spiritual practices to try and make it happen. Chicken and egg.
Also, I can definitely feel the energy when in the company of other
seekers, this would be your "tuning fork" analogy. Get it from this list, reading others' experiences, or in chat or sending Reiki to a list
member.
Love, -Jim
Ron said: >I was just wondering if anyone has noticed whether their own K.
experiences have increased since joining this list and making contact with others of like experiences? Mine certainly has. I was thinking that
maybe it's sort of like the tuning fork concept.
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Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 19:33:31 -0600
From: Ron Grimes To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
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I sent out the "Research Results - Phase I" to everyone who requested
it. Most did not specify Word or e-mail format, in which case I sent it as a Word document. Now, I am getting requests for it in e-mail text. I
will gladly send it in such format to anyone who requests it, but I am going to wait a bit till I get everyone's request in, so I can just send
one e-mail. By the way, your e-mail will have to be able to handle HTML format or it will not layout very well.
Also, if you requested it and have not yet received it (sent today at
7:18pm), please let me know so I can get you a copy in your requested format (Word or e-mail text).
Thanks for everyone's participation and interest.
- Ron
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 10:27:12 +0800 From: "Charles Attfield"
To: "Ron Grimes" , Subject: Re: Age of Aquarius
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Unfortunately, the correction factor (Ayanamsa) used to determine where in the actual constellations are the
commencing points of the various signs is a subject of much debate. Consequently the actual date for the commencement of the Age of Aquarius varies also. The
Ayanamsa quoted by Ron sounds like that given by the Indian Government which had a correction factor for January 1st, 1950 of 23 degrees, 9 minutes. The famous
Indian Astrologer Raman gave it as 21 degrees, 42 minutes while Fagan-Bradley gave it as 24 degrees, 2 minutes. According to Sri Yukteswar, Yogananda's Guru
the age of Aquarius will commence in A.D. 499. Others make it much sooner.
However, I would think that the energies of the Aquarian age
will be felt long before the actual time that the vernal equinox moves into Aquarius, and the Piscean energies could still linger for a long time after. As
such it can be said that we are in the 'Dawning of the Age of Aquarius' and can feel the effects already.
Chas
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Ron Grimes <rogrimeATnospamibm.net>To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>Date: Saturday, 1 August 1998 7:36Subject: Re: Age of
AquariusThe much talked about Age of Aquarius will not be here for another 444 years. The Age of Aquarius has to do with the
phenomenon known as the precession of the equinoxes. The vernal equinox is the point on earth at which the Sun crosses the celestial equator in its
apparent journey from south to north. This never occurs at the same point each year; instead it occurs approximately 50.07 seconds west of where it
crossed the previous year. Because the Western astrologer sets the 1st zodiac sign Aries at the time
of the vernal equinox, their zodiac is moving backward throught the background of the actual constellations themselves. Therefore, the Western
zodiac sign Aries actually now starts at 6 deg 10 min 30 seconds Pisces. So, at the precessional rate of 50.07 seconds/year, it will take another 444
years before the vernal equinox occurs in the sign of Aquarius. Sorry, unless we achieve divya deha, these bodies will not be here to see
it. - Ron --------
Roberto Gonzales del Valle wrote: Many people are talking about
changes coming in the Age of Aquarius. Changes which I believe in. What I wish to know is when will the Age of Aquarius
arrive. Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 23:19:13 EDT
From: MMeyers541ATnospamaol.com To: rogrimeATnospamibm.net
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com Subject: Re: Increased K. Experiences
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In a message dated 98-08-02 11:00:54 EDT, you write: < I was just wondering if anyone has noticed whether their own K.
experiences have increased since joining this list and making contact with others of like experiences? >>
Hi Ron,
Yes, absolutely--several thousand percent! At times it's frightening, but overall I feel much blessed & am very glad for the quantum leap in my
awareness that this list has provided. Take care, Michele Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 17:49:50 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent To: rogrimeATnospamibm.net
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com Subject: Re: Increases K failures
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At 10:30 AM 02/08/98 -0600, Ron Grimes wrote:
>I get a "Mail failure" notice every time I post to the >list, but I just ignore them, since they obviously did get to the right
>destination.
Yup, delete and ignore. On any given day, among 400 folks there is bound to be someone whose
mailbox is full to overflowing.. especially on long weekends.
If you need more info, feel free to write to me at
kundalini-l-ownerATnospamexecpc.com Love and electric blue K. fire, List Mystress.
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