1998/08/02 08:00
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #543
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 543
Today's Topics: i am god [ "Wonderer" ]
kundalini yoga class [ Shirley_WoodsATnospamdoe.k12.ga.us ] Age of Aquarius [ "Roberto Gonzales del Valle" ]
re: my lst (incomplete message) on K [ b bah ] My K-Exp [ Siva ]
Explosions [ Ron Grimes ] Re: 666 [ "Zack Kaplan" ]
Re: i am god [ Ron Grimes ] The ego [ "Wonderer" ]
Increased K. Experiences [ Ron Grimes ] Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 13:46:24 -0400
From: "Wonderer" To: "Kundalini list"
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Last night, my ego shrank to the size of a small speck. My consciousness floated freely in the void and knew itself as god.
This was a humbling experience. I knew that I existed only as a unique perspective created by the illusion of time, space, and form.
Thus, I was an illusion. That speck of ego was illusion.
God is all. When I see, it is with God's eyes; I hear with his ears. I observe thoughts and feelings created by God. "I" am a fleck of
consciousness in a vast pool, anchored by my fascination with creation. Should I detach, would that fleck be indistinguishable
from the deep? Last night, I was ready to let go. I felt I belonged merged with the infinite. I maintained that state of understanding
for half the night, and never felt tired.
Realizing one is god, is not like realizing omnipotence. It is realization of one's utter foolishness and fancy of self-importance.
It is escaping the bounds of the little ego, and peering back at it from the limitless horizons of deep space. Reality becomes inverted.
God is all. We are witness to his creation. Seeds of God, we sprout as exact duplicates, undistinguishable from the host. Maya is our
womb, stimulating our growth until we are self-sustaining. Our ego is like the shell of the seed that is discarded and dissipated once
the full consciousness has bloomed.
i am God=I am nothing.
Namaste,
Cathy Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 14:32:09 -0400
From: Shirley_WoodsATnospamdoe.k12.ga.us To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
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Greetings! Are there anyone who knows where I can attend kundalini yoga class in Atlanta,GA? If so, please respond
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 14:01:15 -0600 From: "Roberto Gonzales del Valle"
To: "Kundalini List" Subject: Age of Aquarius
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Hi list:
Many people are talking about changes coming in the Age of Aquarius. Changes which I believe in.
What I wish to know is when will the Age of Aquarius arrive.
Consider me naive but
have you heard the lyrics in "Hair"?
"When the moon is in the 7th house
and Jupiter allingns with Mars then Peace will guide the planets
and Love will stir the stars".
I don´t know nothing about astrology When is this happening?
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 13:09:24 -0700 From: Mystress Angelique Serpent
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At 06:56 AM 31/07/98 -1000, K. Velu wrote: >Hi friends
> > I need few answers from you,
>Now questions, >
>1. Will this excessive heat always remain in the body. No, it is only the karma being burned away. Eventually you will run out
of karma..
>2. Will it affect my ability to give birth to a child. No, but your child will also be awakened. Blessed be.
>3. I never had a Guru in my life, But still I'am being guided by (Whom?)
Goddess guides you directly, thru the voice of your heart.
>4. Will this change my sexuall behaviour (Even if donot allow) Changes will come and go, all things change. Goddess has it handled, no
sweat.
>5. I have defined my self as to what I want to be, And I have decided > there is no compromise in this. Will this be a block to the KND devlp.
Yup. Coz Goddess plan for you is bigger and better than your ego can conceive of. If you stick to what _you_ think, you are limiting Goddess,
yourself, and what She wants for you. Bad idea. >
> Eagerly awaiting your answers and suggestions. >
There ya go. Blessings, A.
>Thank you,
> >
>With Regard's >K. Velu
> >
> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 17:36:51 -0600
From: Ron Grimes To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
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The much talked about Age of Aquarius will not be here for another 444 years. The Age of Aquarius has to do with the phenomenon known as the precession
of the equinoxes. The vernal equinox is the point on earth at which the Sun crosses the celestial equator in its apparent journey from south to
north. This never occurs at the same point each year; instead it occurs approximately 50.07 seconds west of where it crossed the previous year.
Because the Western astrologer sets the 1st zodiac sign Aries at the
time of the vernal equinox, their zodiac is moving backward throught the background of the actual constellations themselves. Therefore, the Western
zodiac sign Aries actually now starts at 6 deg 10 min 30 seconds Pisces. So, at the precessional rate of 50.07 seconds/year, it will take another
444 years before the vernal equinox occurs in the sign of Aquarius.
Sorry, unless we achieve divya deha, these bodies will not be here to see it.
- Ron
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Roberto Gonzales del Valle wrote: Many people are talking about
changes coming in the Age of Aquarius. Changes which I believe in. What I wish to know is when will the Age of Aquarius arrive.
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 17:41:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: b bah To: jlfATnospammaptel.es
Cc: K_goddessATnospamonelist.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, muchmoreATnospamonelist.com Subject: re: my lst (incomplete message) on K sensations?
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Hello again , sorry about last message, I must have hit a wrong
button. Anyway, the sensation I get is of extremely gentle vibrations(that I call the warm fuzzies), like a light as air feathery
cape is being wrapped around my upper arms and upper torso simultaneously. I told one of my teachers that I thought it was my
mother hugging me, and then told her that it was starting to happen RIGHT THEN!!. I asked her if she could see anything(as I rarely do),
and she said yes a large pair of wings were enfolding me but she couldn't recognize the being.
Pretty miraculous stuff! bye now, barb
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Date: Sat, 01 Aug 1998 13:33:57 +1200 From: Siva
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com Subject: My K-Exp
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I will try to keep this brief as poss.
It all started when I was 19 I find myself wanting to sleep a lot, at times I slept for upto a week, I would wake up, have something to drink then go
back to sleep, I am not yet sure as to why this happened or what for(other than the fact me being lazy). At times I would go without food for 3 days
at a time. This happened for about an year in which for obvious reasons I didn't pass many of my university subjects.
After that I went through a period of hell where I would cry myself to
sleep for about 2 years, trying to figure out why I am still alive for I knew I will die when I am around 21, ofcourse I did die but it is not the
death we usually relate to, it was the death of the old ways, this is when I start getting pulses going through my body, usually they start at the
base of the spine and move up, sometimes across. It feels like an explosions in me, i think the closest thing it comes to is like raw
power/electricity running though my body. Usually when I get a big "explosion" moving up my spine I tend to jerk up my head to the sky as an
invoulntary reaction. Now I am 23 and I still get the energy pulses going through me, but not as
much as it used to be. I think this is because I am too busy to energise myself though relaxation. When I was younger I tend to spend atleast an
hour per day just sitting in silance, now it is more like once a week.
I suspect I empower myself with K energy without consiously being aware of it, just by sitting and taking a deep breath. What does everyone think?
Charan
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 20:41:07 -0600 From: Ron Grimes
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com Subject: Explosions
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Siva wrote:
> I start getting pulses going through my body, usually they start at the > base of the spine and move up, sometimes across. It feels like an
> explosions in me, i think the closest thing it comes to is like raw > power/electricity running though my body. Usually when I get a big
> "explosion" moving up my spine I tend to jerk up my head to the sky as an > invoulntary reaction.
Your description reminded me of 2 experiences I had in mid-1997. I would really
love some insights from others on this. Twice, when I was asleep and dreaming, there was a sudden explosion in my head. The dream was immediately erased, and
everything turned pitch black, except for a brilliant point of light in the middle of it all. After seeing this, I bolted out of bed. Two fears came to my
mind: something physically exploded in my head, or there was a terrible explosion outside. After checking myself, making sure everything still
functioned correctly, I then checked outside to see if everything was alright. Everything was OK on both counts. Needless to say, I didn't get right back to
sleep. Anyway, that happened twice and was one of the most startling things I ever experienced. It was like the entire universe had been wiped away in one
fell swoop.
I should say that after that, I processed out a LOT of old habits, ways of thinking, attachments, etc. I went through several months of mental and
emotional hell, and finally landed in a place of peace.
- Ron Grimes Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 01:02:53 -0400
From: "Zack Kaplan" To: "Kat" , ,
Subject: Re: 666
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hi ive always had connections to the number 9 born in 63 etc etc--
any thoughts on this
-----Original Message----- From: Kat
To: fluteATnospamtexas.net ; kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Date: Monday, July 27, 1998 1:12 PM Subject: Re: 666
>Hi Flute, >
> >>and 666 is 999 upside down..
>>Nine is the release of karma in Fung Shui. So for someone you are >>obsessing about.. hate, frustration, etc. Send them 9 Red Roses..
>>Roses have 9 petals so 9 +9 = 81 which is another 9. >>Its a great release for your mind. My friend even uses Aum Mani Padme
>>Aum to complete the circuit. And you know what.. It works.. >
> >
>There is one person in my life I cannot seem to let go of because of >feelings of frustration, anger and it does cause some obsessiviness in me
as >I am always trying to fix the situation that developed. I think I'll try
>the 9 red roses. I would like to put this sitution in my past and move on >into my future. Thank you for the idea. What is Aum Mani APadme Aum?
> >In L&L & Understanding,
> >Katharine
> >Ps. Thank you to everyone that has responded to my email message.
> >
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 98 06:58:09 -0500 From: Marybeth Gottshall
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Hi, Ron and Charan -
Siva: >It feels like an explosions in me, i think the closest thing it comes to is
>like raw power/electricity running though my body. Usually when I get a big >"explosion" moving up my spine I tend to jerk up my head to the sky as an
>invoulntary reaction.
Ron: >Twice, when I was asleep and dreaming,there was a sudden explosion in my head.
>The dream was immediately erased, and everything turned pitch black, except >for a brilliant point of light in the middle of it all.
Marybeth:
I have never had this experience, but it immediately brought to mind a passage that I had read recently in "Brahmanada: Sound, Mantra and Power"
by Shri Dayanyogi Madhusudandasji. He talks about terrifying explosions in his head, followed by the perception of circles of light, followed by
a state of deep meditation, and says that this went on for fifteen days. After a doctor told him that there was nothing wrong with him, he
received an answer from within that this was the piercing of the chakras.
For myself, apart from the first blast of Kundalini energy that I felt a little over a year ago, it has come on more like a knocking at the door,
and a very gradual ascent of pulsing and or vibrating or churning energy.
Love and Peace, Marybeth
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 12:36:04 +0100 From: "jb"
To: "K. list" , "Wonderer" Subject: RE: i am god
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Cathy:
[...] > Realizing one is god, is not like realizing omnipotence. It is
> realization of one's utter foolishness and fancy of self-importance. > It is escaping the bounds of the little ego, and peering back at it
> from the limitless horizons of deep space. Reality becomes inverted. > God is all. We are witness to his creation. Seeds of God, we sprout
> as exact duplicates, undistinguishable from the host. Maya is our > womb, stimulating our growth until we are self-sustaining. Our ego
> is like the shell of the seed that is discarded and dissipated once > the full consciousness has bloomed.
> > i am God=I am nothing.
Jan: beautiful! The next time, realize "I am All".
Date: Sat, 01 Aug 1998 07:39:03 -0600 From: Ron Grimes
To: "K. list" Subject: Re: i am god
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jb wrote:
> Our ego > > is like the shell of the seed that is discarded and dissipated once
> > the full consciousness has bloomed.
I know what you mean, but this is a concept that is a big hurdle in the beginning. When one reads in so many places that the ego must be discarded,
it often sets up a terrible battle where the ego fights for its own survival. When it understands that there is a spiritual process going on
which seeks to eliminate it, it sets up perversions of this process which can be very difficult to overcome. After all, if the ego thinks it is
trying to be destroyed, it thinks, "So, why in the hell should I cooperate in this process of spiritual growth if I am only to be discarded."
What I finally understood is that it is not a matter of getting rid of the
ego so that it does not exist; for as long as we have a body and personality to manifest, the ego will exist at some level. I have come to
understand that, rather than anhihilation of the ego, it is an ego that no longer seeks its own, but expands so that the entire universe becomes one's
own body and the good of all is then sought. It goes from a limited view to an all encompassing view. If a person thinks they have to kill the ego, or
the person they have come to be, then what follows is depression, mental aberrations, and great struggles. The ego is not killed, but purified to
become a servant and vessel for the divine. The body is the chariot and horses, but I am Krishna (or the Christ, or the Buddha) - doesn't matter.
But hopefully the horses become perfectly tamed to do the bidding of Krishna, rather than going about wherever they want.
We are indeed a microcosm. If we think about it, the manifest universe is
the body and personality (e.g., ego projection) of God. There is no manifestation into the physical plane without an ego of some sort.
Likewise, as long as the Self is manifesting into the physical plane, there will be an ego - but hopefully one purified of attachments and karma.
- Ron
Date: Sat, 01 Aug 98 10:52:36 PDT From: "Wonderer"
To: rogrimeATnospamibm.net, "K. list" Subject: The ego
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> jb wrote: >
> > We are indeed a microcosm. If we think about it, the manifest universe is
> the body and personality (e.g., ego projection) of God. There is no > manifestation into the physical plane without an ego of some sort.
> Likewise, as long as the Self is manifesting into the physical plane, there > will be an ego - but hopefully one purified of attachments and karma.
> > - Ron
> >
To paraphrase your writing:
"As long as we live in and identify with the outer world,
we will have an ego". (A viewpoint based upon one's unique perspective of time, space and form).
Ron, I think the ego is the cradle of our consciousness. At some point,
we must expand beyond its limits.
What happens to the seed when the plant grows? Does it die, or transform?
The ego simply must understand and accept that it is a means to an end, if successful; ultimately part of something much greater than itself. Like
a loving parent, it must nurture and prepare its beloved child consciousness to go forth in the world an independent being.
Cathy Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 08:59:51 -0600
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I was just wondering if anyone has noticed whether their own K.
experiences have increased since joining this list and making contact with others of like experiences? Mine certainly has. I was thinking that
maybe it's sort of like the tuning fork concept.
But, I also wanted to convey a couple of other experiences to see if they resonate with anyone else. Do any of you remember a rocking or
swaying motion of the energy within the pelvic region around the time K. began to rise? I definitely remember that, and it wasn't a visible
motion, but kind of felt like my own little tidal wave of energy moving back and forth. The other experience I have had is going from the dream
state into a place of nothing but light, bliss, and consciousness. It doesn't feel like I woke up and experienced this, but it feels like I
passed into a state of consciousness beyond sleep. Maybe turiya? Anyway, that's happened several times and I was just curious as to other
like-experiences.
I really appreciate this list which gives us the ability to check their experiences with other Kundalites. Special thanks to Mystress; may she
be blessed richly.
- Ron
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