1998/07/30 01:33
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #540
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 540
Today's Topics: RE: The Seeds of Self-Delight [ "jb" ]
Re: The Seeds of Self-Delight [ "Wonderer" ] Re: Religion or Control [ "E.E.S." ]
expansion [ Maureen Heffernan ] being [ "Paul West" ]
RE: The Seeds of Self-Delight [ "jb" ] Re: being [ "Jason S. White"
To: "K. list" , "Orea" Subject: RE: The Seeds of Self-Delight
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Orea:
> This really interests me, Jan. Could you perhaps shed some light > on how to
> make a "graceful transition"? I know I must be full of toxins, > the thought
> of releasing them too quickly scares me.
Jan: It is quite possible to make a smooth transition. It starts with fruits for breakfast. If you are not using a high calorie breakfast, you can use
almost all fruits, but no avocados or bananas. Eat a relatively large quantity like 1...2 lb. If you are used to a high calorie breakfast, make a
blend of ripe bananas (starting to show brown spots) and juicy fruits like oranges or mandarins. During the morning, don't use coffee or tea. Instead,
drink water, fresh juice or eat citrus fruits. From lunch on, you take what you are used to. If this is going well, start exchanging compound foods like
burgers with natural foods like almondbutter or so. After some time, lunch can be replaced by fruits and dinner becomes a kind of salad with nuts and
seeds as the source for protein. Don't eat raw, leafy vegetables - either cook them or juice them. Finally, dinner can be changed to a kind of salad
with raw, non-leafy veggies like paprika, tomato etc. with a few nuts/seeds or just fruits (no nuts/seeds). Observe your body very well. Feeling 'low'
on energy is an indication that all energy is being spent on waste-disposal. A rash means, that waste is being flushed out faster from tissues than it
can be exposed off; this condition has to be avoided. If you feel high on energy, have a good walk and concentrate on breathing in deeply. Don't
forget K. is the Force of adaptation, transformation and evolution: Kundalites will adapt much faster than non-K. people.
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 10:11:16 -0400 From: "Wonderer"
To: "jb" , "K. list" Subject: Re: The Seeds of Self-Delight
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>Jan: (snip) During the transition time the toxic waste in the body
is being removed also, giving the false impression of allergy or flue-like illness. The primary cause of obesity is the toxic waste
that is accumulated in all tissues.
Very interesting Jan! I've long felt that "old illnesses" are trapped in body fat. In 91, I started a low fat diet and lost
weight, but gained a lot of colds, despite the very healthy food (primarily vegetables, fruit and grains) and exercise regimen I was
on. Of course, this was just my theory. Better to melt the fat and release the germs than to let them fester.
Cathy
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 12:52:07 -0500 From: "E.E.S."
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Dear Flute,
Namaste~ What you wrote was so beautiful!
Just wanted to send you some encouraging words of love. I've never felt drawn to reply to anyone until now.
You have a kind spirit, and a wise one!
love, Benita
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From: flute To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Date: Monday, July 27, 1998 8:37 AM Subject: Religion or Control
>Once upon a time, long time ago.. There lived a few dudes called >cave men and women.. somewhere around the Black Sea.. I particulary
>liked a village called Milesia. The people of this village were very >progressive and very prolific. So they decided to migrate and strangely
>enough.. they decided the pattern to migrate should be in a expanding >spiral.
> The migration moved downward for some (Milesians) to the Greek >islands where as this family evolved they moved into shipping. As
>powerful Merchants these ancestors of the cave man expanded their >knowledge and pockets by traveling to Egypt (a very rich country at the
>time). From Egypt they traveled in their ships to sell merchandise to >the Iberian pensula then upward into the Isle of Hibernia. Then these
>Sons of the Greeks migrated to the top of the island, staked their claim >as to a homeland and called the place Scotland after the Egyptian
>Princess who one of the Son of the Greeks married. King Alpine set foot >on and established a keltic colony in the year 650 BC. King Alpine whose
>real name was "Son of the Greek" or McGreghior established an organized >Society on that small island.
> At the same time his ancient ancestors were traveling and migrating >to Germany, and the Iberian Pensula (now called. Spain, France,
>Netherlands, etc.. you've seen it on the maps). Then they settled and >became quieter in their physical explorations.
> Thus began the bigger mind game of "Mines bigger than Yours" Where >people noticed differences in each other and decided that anyone
>different was a threat (as it might have been necessary in their >survival methods to migrate so far).
> These Keltoi tribes, realized they were not animals and founded >societies that dealt with Man, his mind and his spirituality called
>Religions. Some were comfortable with knowing and appreciating. >But even in Religion, Man Migrated and changed and used the society
>created to control HIS part of the vast universe that was >unreachable. If he could corner his religion and make others
>believe it then it must be real. So he decided to crusade the knwn world >and make all men believers in his society. The more they conquered the
>more he had to conquer.. Inquisitions were set up for those that didn't >conform and women that dared to use a folk medicine were burned as
>witches.. Or if they were just in the way of a powerful leader they were >executed as witches. Convenient, yes? An order of Priest and Monks
>became the keepers of the spirituality as it was with the Druids in the >more ancient times.
>In order to keep the society in line, stories and myths were created to >show a proper life style and the opposite was something not desirable.
>So there needed to be symbols of this not desirable behavior and these >were identified as such things as Devil, Hell and 666s. Anything that
>could be used to control or fixate the mind of man was used to the >benefit of the rulers.
>Since some people were not willing to go along with the new patterns, >many were executed in the name of a society belief. This created a fear
>of not being in league with the more powerful group. >Then there needed to be a structure and Places where people could go and
>prove their alligence to this society. So the Masons were called to >build Churches of incredible size and structure. "Mine's still bigger
>than yours" conplex again. and No man was allowed to be an Island. No >man was accepted unless he or she followed the society patterns set by
>the more powerful leaders. > Now we are entering the age of Unity but as individuals and ao now
>the mind/spiritual process is growing and expanding.. Called the Age of >Aquarius. The computers and the internet are one of the vehicles of this
>thought process. Here we listen to and learn others viewpoints. We can't >see the images of those we talk to and relinquish our fears of combat
>and war. Here we open our closed minds to the fact that we are all of >the same energy patterns.
> I accept all of you in reverence and Love. I appreciate your ideas >and input. I will not infringe on your beliefs nor do I expect you to
>infringe on mine. My family history is above as was told by the Clan in >the method of the Bards/Druids. Hopefully we will all develop and spiral
>outward in our thoughts expanding the awareness of the world. >Love,
>flute >Carolyn McGregor Cousier Maloney
> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 15:11:37 +0000
From: Maureen Heffernan To: kundalini
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Hi all,
Had an experience some years ago of growing and being about 100 feet tall. People were as small as ants. I have felt the expansion of
consciousness of nature, it wasn't that. I could walk around etc. Anyone else experience this?
Thanks,
+ Maureen
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 14:38:44 -0500 (CDT) From: Billy Galvin
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com Subject: shared transformation newsletter
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I have an enquiry please:-
Can someone let me know how to obtain issues 1 and 2 of this newsletter, whether they're still available and the price and correct address to write
to..the web page is last dated 1996. Thanks
Billy Dublin, Ireland.
Date: 30 Jul 98 02:51:06 +0000 From: "Paul West"
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com Subject: being
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hello.
I mentioned a little while ago about getting messages from my sub/unconscious in the form of spontaneous movements of parts of my
body, mostly a finger.
It has been continuing and if anything has become a little more frequent. I can't exactly say it's regular or to the dozen because it
doesn't happen much but it has increased.
It usually occurs when I am considering something deeply, realising something, going through it. It is almost always a finger on my right
hand that will suddenly raise and return to its position, probably because I am right handed and my left hand is a bit dosile.
It is not like when you deliberately lift a finger. There is muscle
tension in that. It's almost a sort of twitch, but it's not random. Not a muscular thing, more sort of to do with the tendens or nerves.
And I get the feeling that there is correlation between it being my right-hand fingers and my being `right'. It only seems to happen when
I am correct about something.
It is like it sais "yes". I get into this place within me during these introspections where maybe without it ever being introduced or it ever
arriving, the inner/higher self is `there'. I have my thoughts and my questions and my wonderings and it is as though in the company of this
higher self. I ask it questions, but it is not like asking questions of everyday people. You know, it's sort of subtler, unaknowledged,
like something I've always been able to do and it having never been placed in doubt.
It is sort of the same place to which I sometimes subtly desire to
know what something is, to have that question answered immediately with the little quiet message that comes to me. You could say it comes
from `spirit' or it comes from `Goddess' or `God' or `higher self'. It's just /there/, you know. Always has been. Never goes away. Doesn't
seem to do anything but just be there. Doesn't get upset, doesn't have an opinion, doesn't waver in the slightest. I suppose I have come to
rely on it quite a lot. I talk to it a lot and get insights and stuff from there. I have usually labelled it as intuition. It is a very
knowing place of no doubts where questions are asked in the slightest whisper of conscious identity.
Yesterday I went someplace that I have not been since I was a young
child. Not a physical place, some location. No, it was a place of a way of looking at the world. Suddenly everything that was anywhere
other than in front of me did not exist, as far as I was concerned. My mind did not invent what things looked liked behind me or to the
sides, or what things sounded like or what the origin of the sound looked like. All there was to see, was what came to my eyes. I pushed
further and there it was. Absorbtion in memory completely removed like a veil being lifted or a cloud dissipating to reveal the sun. A scene
that I have seen thousands of times was before me for the first time. I could have been in a different country, it was so new. My mother and
father were in the scene also. The way they appeared in that moment is unspeakable. I only ever remembered things being that way, a memory,
never to happen again. I had forgotten things truly were ever like that when I was so much younger, and certainly never conceived
that it could still be so. That it still exists has got me excited.
I have been realising that I see with my mind. It might bring insights and stuff but I look at things with my mind that my five senses do not
have access to. It is another superhero thing. I know what the part of the room behind me looks like and I am not even looking at it. I know
what the living room downstairs looks like and I'm not even down there. This kind of thing shocks me now. So I am trying very hard to
push forwards and pay attention only to what I can actually see. It is helping. And you know what? I find that the more attention I give
forwards to what is in front of me, the more I leave everything else behind me (instead of mentally bringing it into view), and the more I
feel this.. . .love . in my heart.
I have been pushing forwards, through fears. Things that I got afraid of before are harmless. No reason to fear them at all. In fact I have
been befriending a number of small lifeforms just recently that I may have once brushed aside or even destroyed. Why I feared them I don't
know. I find myself /looking/, in a way I haven't done for a long time. My attention span is increasing and I feel things are in focus.
I was wondering if my eyes needed testing! I feel that looking forwards like this is more direct, and things seem to work more
effortlessly. I am trying very hard not to `imagine' the way things look when I cannot see them. Did you know that the degree of illusion
can be measured by the extent to which you turn your head to look at things? When illusion is bad I find myself turning my eyes and my head
stays still. When it's real bad nothing moves at all. But when things are great, and they're heading somewhere like that, you turn sharply
to look at everything you cannot see and everything is in front of you. It's wonderful.
Somebody suggested that I should try that `loving inanimate objects'
thing. I have been doing this. This is what I'm talking about. I am trying to pay attention forwards to what is here now. I have probably
missed years of life by not paying attention. I find fears dissipating and love increasing. And I feel it, right smack in the middle of my
chest, deep inside. And the passion that I had as a child, that I experienced once again yesterday, the bliss of there being no time or
space, and that same thing that is deep within with which I converse, all seems to be one thing drawing ever closer. I stood in a place that
I would normally know the location of and I didn't even know I was there, I didn't even know I had travelled there, and I didn't even
know that I knew this. There was nothing. It just `is'. Cripes, I can't say anymore than that. You just be there. It's not the death or
the life I envisage. Just one big `everythings is alright'.
-- Paul.
IRC: #amiga, Dalnet: #blitz
WWW: http://www.stationone.demon.co.uk E-M: paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 20:47:31 -0700 (PDT) From: caroline wilson
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Dear Mystress, about a year ago or more, i used to bump into this young woman who
would always grab me and talk to me about what is going on with me she said that she channels ?
the last time i saw her she spent sometime talking to me and kept touching my lower tummy in fact where my uterus is and ovaries and she
would say it hurts in there doesn't it? she was right it used to feel out of whack or twisted or something, although nothing was wrong by
what my doctor told me. Three and a half months ago i went to your website and did the
meditation the first time i was interrupted then started again a second time at the end of the meditation a big whoompf! went through
my lower half between my navel and anus - reproductive organs with a thud like no other and some pain but it was kind of pleasurable and
then dissapated to nothing it made me heat up all over and let out a low sond from my mouth . I am now almost three months pregnant and had
been trying for 5 months or so. So walla thankyou Mystress
would love to here back from you on this topic. Caroline
ps i have tried to resubscribe to the k list about half a dozen times,
still have not received any thing yet and i can't access any of the websites that you listed, it says that
they are not on this server.
_________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!?
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Maureen: > Hi all,
> Had an experience some years ago of growing and being about 100 feet > tall. People were as small as ants. I have felt the expansion of
> consciousness of nature, it wasn't that. I could walk around etc. > Anyone else experience this?
> Jan: What you are describing is the result of getting aware of the astral
body. It can grow so big that you can touch the moon. Many of the siddhis that Patanjali describes are only possible in the astral body. It is also
possible to become so small that you can travel through the entire human body.
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 04:54:38 +0100 From: "jb"
To: "K. list" , "Wonderer" Subject: RE: The Seeds of Self-Delight
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Cathy:
> Very interesting Jan! I've long felt that "old illnesses" are > trapped in body fat. In 91, I started a low fat diet and lost
> weight, but gained a lot of colds, despite the very healthy food > (primarily vegetables, fruit and grains) and exercise regimen I was
> on. Of course, this was just my theory. Better to melt the fat and > release the germs than to let them fester.
Jan: courageous and right. A simple check is the pH of urine. If it is acid,
the body has to use protein and calcium to balance the pH of the blood. It is the reason for many (chronic) illnesses and the main reason for high
protein and calcium intake in the 'standard' diet. Litmus paper for measuring pH is available in most pharmacies - get the ranges 4...7 and
7...10 (approximately). The pH of urine has to be in the 7...10 range. Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 08:18:10 +0200
From: "Jason S. White" To: "Paul West" ,
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>There was nothing. It just `is'. Cripes, I >can't say anymore than that. You just be there. It's not the death or
>the life I envisage. Just one big `everythings is alright'. >
>-- >Paul.
>
HOORAY! Yes, HOORAY for Paul! Welcome home my friend! We just are here. There are no walls in this house. You are seen and the blossoming of your
love is evident! Maintain balance. Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 08:25:12 +0200
From: "Jason S. White" To: "Kundalini"
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This morning as I watched the sun rise and reveled in Shakti's big enveloping vibrations, I wondered who her partner is. Are her vibrations,
nature, all we see in this life? Or can we ever glimpse her counterpart? Where does he hide?
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