1998/07/23 08:01
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #529
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 529
Today's Topics:
Re: Paul West - -a dream/nightmare? [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
Re: This is Love.... [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
Re: K Rising and Astrology Research [ Ron Grimes <rogrimeATnospamibm.net> ]
Re: Planting a Seed [ "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon. ]
Re: Planting a Seed [ Lizard4663ATnospamaol.com ]
love for all that is [ "Nancy J. Young" <youngATnospamnuc003.psc. ]
Re: love for all that is [ Ron Grimes <rogrimeATnospamibm.net> ]
Re: love for all that is [ "jim privacy" <jprivacyATnospamhotmail.com ]
Re: This is Love.... [ "THOMAS SMITH" <WHITEKNIGHT11ATnospamprodi ]
RE: Planting a Seed [ "jb" <janbarenATnospaminfase.es> ]
Re: Planting a Seed [ AstraCastrATnospamaol.com ]
"Occult Physiology" and KRN Conferen [ "Dhyani \"Debbie\"" <debhATnospammindsprin ]
Re: email troubles? [ Siva <guardianATnospamxtra.co.nz> ]
Re: Kundalini & Manic Depressive dis [ amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us ]
Re: Light [ amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us ]
Re: love for all that is [ F19AshATnospamaol.com ]
Re: Unconditional Love [ "Jose Arroyo" <jm_arroyoATnospamhotmail.co ]
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 13:26:57 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: matrixATnospamroyaume.com
Cc: morlightATnospammhonline.net, kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: Paul West - -a dream/nightmare?
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At 07:03 PM 21/07/98 +0200, matrixATnospamroyaume.com wrote:
>M
>thanks a lot mystress,
You are welcome. I am happy to serve by teaching.
>i understand now.sorry,i want to much to be
>perfect again.
Someone els else responded privately asking me to elaborate about
desire..
So I will respond to both at once...
.
Here is an equation for you to contemplate.
Goddess is perfection, yes?
Can perfection create imperfection?
No! Then it would be imperfect in it's creation.
Therefore, all of creation is Already Perfect in the eyes of Goddess.
Including every one of us, and every moment of the tangled cloud of past
events that ego spends time trying to judge and unravel. Perfection is all
that Is, Was, or Will Be. Goddess is All that Is, and Goddess is
Perfection, so All that Is, is Perfection. This is Truth.
Goddess does not Judge her perfection. What is to judge, in perfection?
Silly idea.
It is not perfect in the eyes of ego, tho, eh? Ego sees it quite
differently. We build up what we think of as "Us", out of the judgments we
make.. love for ice cream, hatred of violence, love for peaches, hatred of
parsnips, love for Gandhi, hatred of Hitler.. all coming of our "karma",
which is our emotional attachments to opinions about events. Past or
future. We fear violence and look forward to ice cream. WE think we are
funny, we think we look better with this hairstyle.. or that one.
That is what "personality", is. And all of that has to Go. Ha ha sounds
funny.
Good thing it does not happen overnight, usually, eh?
But as long as we are looking at creation thru the filters of Karma,
personality, ego... then we are not seeing it's perfection. So we have
fears and desires and are bound to the wheel of Karma.
We are all perfect except to ourselves and each other... so we desire
perfection.
We are given the power of prayer, and prayer is powerful, in the moment.
Our prayers are answered instantly. Like the synchronicities... think a
question, hear the answer on the radio.. Goddess speaks thru synchronicity,
instantly to answer prayers.
So, one must remember that prayers of wanting produce experiences of
wanting, and prayers of being produce experiences of being. We are wanting
what we do not think we are being, but we are Goddess creation already
PERFECT.
Our desires express prayers of wanting which give us experience of
wanting, and blind us to what we already possess. Therefore count your
blessings, and they will increase.
Discipline yourself to look for perfection in every situation. Sometimes
you will not find it, sometimes you will find reasons that are
half-truths.. but trust that it is there. By insisting on seeing
perfection, you surrender the judgments of personality to learn to see thru
Goddess eyes of Unconditional love.
Yet by judging any part of Goddess creation imperfect, we judge Goddess.
Eh? Truly. She is the Greatest Artist, she puts Her Self, into All of
her Works. Anything you see, even on the news, is all a part of Her Works.
Goddess sees you as Her own Perfect creation, and who are you to judge
yourself or any other, as less?
In critiquing Creation, you criticize the Artist who Creates. Can you
do better?? LOL!!
Realize, the depth of the arrogance of Ego. It thinks itself worthy to
be a critic to Goddess. Thus, the benefits in humility..
Which for me, takes the form of "I am perfect and unique, Goddess
manifest .. just like we All are. Everyone and everything." Inside, outside.
This, as a mantra tends to bring up all of my judgments of imperfection
to be released, as Ego tries to show me otherwise.
It is a game of "yes, but" like we used to play in theatre sports.. Ego
sez "yes, but what about toxic waste dumps.." The mantra reaffirms
perfection. Whether I can understand it or not. The opinion transforms to
light. There is room for the higher truth to come in, After the leap of
faith that removes the opinions which block it. Not before.
Leaps of faith, one after the next like a hopscotch game till I fall into
eternity forever and Know the mind of Goddess. Yet, it is my own mind...
Goddess is manifest in Me.
Round it goes, the Serpent eating it's tail.. Oroborus, an eternity loop.
8. Infinity reflections of the cosmic hologram. One of us that is all of Us.
It is a common spiritual arrogance to see oneself as "better", because of
spiritual evolution. Yet, it is another illusion. WE come into the game, to
seek the way out. Others come in, to play the game so completely they do
not remember it is a game till after they have lost the body. All are
Goddess manifest, doing Her works in perfection.
Whether they know it or not is irrelevant to eternity. All are on the
path that is right for them. They could not, not be..
So I may contemplate: Gandhi's resistance to British rule via spiritual
means, was still resistance, and it was still perfection. A result of this
resistance is an independent India that is testing nuclear weapons, which
it would be unlikely to do if it were still a British colony.. but if it
were still a British colony, it would likely already have them... the brits
got theirs from the Yanks.. which would make their neighbors even more
nervous..
and right about there I stop trying to outguess Goddess with my
speculative judgment games, ego's opinions of past events, and give the
whole puzzle up to perfection of Her Will. Choose to know nothing, and send
love, that someday I might understand.
This too is a desire of wanting. So I give up needing to understand.. it
just Is. Perfection. Send love to it, ignore the illusions of ego and
trust that Goddess knows what She is doing. Fears transform to light.
What comes back, is a fragment of memory, an astrological prediction on
the net, which said that sometime last year, the polarity of
spiritual/material power switched. The east held the power of spirit, and
passed it to the west, which held the power of material success, which
passed to the east. I get a metaphor of India, as a lottery winner who runs
out and buys the fast sports car that will kill them. Hmmm.. very
interesting. So I send love to India, and then give that new idea up to
Goddess also. It is a reason, and Goddess doesn't need them. Ego needs
them, and tells stories to itself.
A child learns to speak, and begins to shape beliefs asking why why
why.. constructing personality that the yogi deconstructs again, to return
to being a child of Goddess in awareness. Not needing a reason for anything
to Be.
I dunno. I think sometimes the fully realized ones are all so free from
desire that the desire to share wisdom over email might never occur to
them.. but at this time it gives me pleasure and feels like love, so I keep
at it..
So long as I am writing what seems to be my "essay of the day", heh heh..
I feel it is OK to tell an odd story.
I was contemplating the testing while it was happening, and wondering
what was to be done.. it occurred to me to "go to the top". so to speak..
of India's spiritual hierarchy of living Masters. Having read
"Autobiography of a Yogi", this spring, it seemed that the "top", was Babaji.
So I sent love and called to him, and it seemed that he appeared. I had
felt India's nuclear testing was worth getting his attention about, but he
did not seem to agree. He seemed kind of cranky as he dismissed my concerns.
"All is Maya" he said. "Illusion".
"Yes Master" I said, surrendering utterly to the bliss of his
enlightenment. I could see the illusion of it.
Yet I was still myself. Even as illusion, it was still pretty ugly.. I
cannot remember the exact sequence of conversation, but I expressed that
opinion, and faith that unconditional love can always find a better way..
and could there not be mercy for those who could not see it as Maya, but
who were caught in the wheel of pain and fear.. and plotting such
destruction?
He affirmed his love and blessings on his homeland, which I felt as a
deep mellow golden glow in that place, which soothed my fears.. but I do
not recall him making any promises to change the path of Goddess will,
before he departed. :)
Blessings, Mystress.
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 11:46:17 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: "THOMAS SMITH" <WHITEKNIGHT11ATnospamprodigy.net>
Cc: <morlightATnospammhonline.net>, <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: This is Love....
Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980722114617.00cf08fcATnospammail.fantasycorp.com>
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At 07:42 PM 21/07/98 -0400, THOMAS SMITH wrote:
>Oh Mystress,that was beautiful and so free flowing....Thank You
Yer welcome.. it seems to have blasted other folks more than you.. oh
well.. :)
>
>How about one for the Third-eye now? ;)
Give 'em an inch.. you be getting greedy, now. Your 3rd eye is already
open.
>
>All the Blessings I have, I send to You
>Tom
I send em back..
BB, A.
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 15:10:51 -0600
From: Ron Grimes <rogrimeATnospamibm.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: K Rising and Astrology Research
Message-ID: <35B6636A.AE49AC7AATnospamibm.net>
Dear list members,
Below are the birthdates that I have - some from list members, some not.
I am not listing names or birthplaces. This is in order to protect
anonymity. If you have sent me your birthdata and it's not included in
this list, then it's probably lost in cyberspace and needs to be resent
to me at this address (rogrimeATnospamibm.net) - that is if you want your data
included in this research.
I have found some distinct configurations which indicate K rising. The
percentage of charts in which these are found are so high as to be far
beyond statistical chance. The results of my analysis are rather lengthy
to explain, so I will not post it here, since there is some apparent
concern about length of posts. Therefore, if you would like to receive a
copy of the results of this study, please e-mail me privately and
indicate that you would like to receive a copy. I will prepare this
document over the next few days and get it out to those requesting it.
This document will address the questions I previously stated would be
included in the study. I will do my best to strip the document of
burdensome astrological jargon - as much as possible. Those astrogical
principles that I must refer to will be briefly explained in the
document. When requesting to be e-mailed with the results, please
indicate whether you want a Word document attached, or simply placed in
the e-mail message body itself.
I realize that some may think that I have come up with the assessment
far too quickly for it to be relevant, but the configurations were
readily apparent, distinct, and statistically overwhelming. I truly had
some impressive and fascinating charts to work with! I don't pretend
that this assessment is as comprehensive as it will one day be, but I
would like to get, to interested members, some relevant information and
helpful astrological insights into this phenomena of K rising.
Thanks to all, and especially to those who selflessly sent me their
birth data to include in this study.
Ron Grimes
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Jul 03, 1932
Aug 17, 1959
Nov 19, 1955
Feb 18, 1836
Jan 12, 1863
Aug 01, 1967
Apr 25, 1969
Sep 20, 1955
Jun 22, 1952
Jul 26, 1875
Apr 07, 1967
Aug 18, 1970
Sep 14, 1950
May 05, 1951
Nov 06, 1979
Mar 25, 1931
Apr 09, 1968
Mar 18, 1877
Sep 27, 1957
Jan 05, 1960
Jun 29, 1963
Jul 23, 1948
Jan 05, 1893
Oct 02, 1944
Jun 22, 1929
Sep 03, 1970
Dec 11, 1931
May 01, 1975
Date: 22 Jul 98 22:19:39 +0000
From: "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Planting a Seed
Message-Id: <35B6657B.MD-0.196.paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
Wonderer,
> P.S. My ego has been pestering me to ask Paul West this question,
> and I am finally going to indulge it. Paul, why is the word "demon"
> in your e-mail address? What does this signify to you? Do you feel
> demonized, vilified, possessed? Are you ready to give up this
> distinction and become a mere mortal yet? Pardon my intrusion; don't
> answer if its too personal.
I am finding it increasingly funny how a few people are not prepared
to see that I am changing and that I am not the devil incarnate.
Demon is simply the name of the service provider - demon internet.
They happen to offer support for the type of computer I use as well as
being quite cheap and offering a good-sized homepage site. They were
the second people I called and I did not need go further once I did. I
can assure you m'dear there is nothing demonic or spookily
synchronistic about the term `demon'. If you must know, the only part
of the email address I have any say in is the `stationone' part, which
I plucked out of the air because just about every other sensible thing
had already been taken, including loveclub and pussyparlour.
If you like you can write to me by a different name because I am
allowed infinite email addresses, you see. Is that a synchronistic
thing do you think? You could write to godATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk and
it would reach me just as much as if you wrote to the devil at the
same place. Call me aunt fanny if you like, I don't care. Seeing "Paul
West - Dream or illusion?" in people's subject lines is bad enough but
this is just a bit too silly don't you think?
Smile :-)
--
Paul.
IRC: #amiga, Dalnet: #blitz
WWW: http://www.stationone.demon.co.uk
E-M: paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 17:29:43 EDT
From: Lizard4663ATnospamaol.com
To: paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Planting a Seed
Message-ID: <dec8c497.35b659c8ATnospamaol.com>
Aren't we lucky? We have "God" on our list. Paul, you're ego grows daily.
Liz
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 98 18:07:07 -0400
From: "Nancy J. Young" <youngATnospamnuc003.psc.sc.edu>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
cc: youngATnospamnuc003.psc.sc.edu
Subject: love for all that is
Message-Id: <199807222207.SAA18099ATnospamnuc003.psc.sc.edu>
hello everyone
i am newly subscribed to this list (about a week ago) and have not had the
opportunity to introduce myself. but before that, i have a question:
what does 'kundalini rising' really mean? does this imply the opening of
chakras?
i ask this partially because the posting from ron grimes about his charts has
caught my eye and i am really interested in knowing more (which, by the way, is
why i subscribed to this list :-). i would like to send him my birth
information, etc to help him with his study, but i am not sure if i fall into
the category of people 'qualified'. how do i know? does this require psychic
ability specifically linked to the opening of one's chakras? or even a
nailed-down ability not linked to the chakras (but aren't they all)? i am quite
certain that i have some sort of psychic ability pertaining (i think) to healing
(esp. others). i am certain because i feel it in the love of my heart and i have
seen the synchronicity of the universe, not because i have had specific
k-experiences. and i have not yet pinned down what this ability really consists
of. i was hoping this list could help with this as well as educating me on the
ways of kundalini.
i am 28 years old and have had a full and adventurous (not necessarily by
choice) life already. like many of you i have been reading about, my childhood
was.... dark to say the least. i know this is a bit ambiguous, but i am not sure
the readers of this list would be interested in the gory details. BUT i have
been BLESSED to learn of the love and unity of the universe through much pain
AND joy. i want to learn more. i need to learn more for myself and to help
others and to aid in the evolution of all of our souls.
thank you for any response.
love and gratefulness to/for all
josie
****
Josie Young (803)777-5753
Unix Systems Administrator youngATnospamnuc003.psc.sc.edu
Intermediate Energy Nuclear Group Laboratory
Deptartment of Physics & Astronomy
University of South Carolina
Columbia, SC 29208
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 17:12:39 -0600
From: Ron Grimes <rogrimeATnospamibm.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: love for all that is
Message-ID: <35B67FF6.CE2E09ADATnospamibm.net>
Nancy J. Young wrote:
> but i am not sure if i fall into
> the category of people 'qualified'. how do i know?
If I may respond briefly to this. First, I do not, and will not, judge who qualifies
and who doesn't. That would be far from appropriate. Although my research has found
distinct common characteristics among an extraordinarily high percentage of the
charts submitted, I cannot say that those people who lack those planetary
configurations have not had K rising experiences.
With that said, let me speak to the issue of K rising as it relates to psychic
phenomena, bad dreams, "demons" arising, heavenly visions, etc. A person can have K
rising without ever experiencing any such things. The types of phenomena experienced
by each individual depends on the balance of the feminine and masculine forces, as
well as the influence of the astrological serpent in each person's chart. For some,
they will not experience the forces to which some become attached and temporarily
stopped on their journey. Attachment to "demon" experiences, heavenly visions,
dreams, psychic abilities are only roadside billboards which one should not stop and
read for too long. Otherwise, one greatly delays the true destination of K rising.
But it is difficult to let go of the phenomena which hides the true treasure of K
rising. Often, as soon as a person lets go of these things, they begin to wonder if
they've lost the K rising or somehow turned it off; consequently, at some level,
they call it back into their lives and are once again trapped by the phenomena. The
danger of the phenomena is that it then becomes used as a device to "validate" one's
spirituality. In reality, these experiences constitute the dragon concealing the
true diamond awaiting us all. It befalls each person to defeat that dragon and claim
that which lies waiting.
Just my opinion,
Ron Grimes
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 16:20:18 PDT
From: "jim privacy" <jprivacyATnospamhotmail.com>
To: youngATnospamnuc003.psc.sc.edu
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: love for all that is
Message-ID: <19980722232019.18807.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
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Dear Josie:
Welcome to the k-list!
Several people here are interested in healing work; contact me if you'd
like to practice sending healing to one another. Contact flute if you'd
like to join a healing circle on the internet to help others.
I'm sure others here are more qualified than I am to answer your
questions about Kundalini.
Again, welcome.
Love, -Jim
>i am quite certain that i have some sort of psychic ability pertaining
(i think) to healing (esp. others).
______________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 21:47:26 -0400
From: "THOMAS SMITH" <WHITEKNIGHT11ATnospamprodigy.net>
To: "Mystress Angelique Serpent" <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
Cc: <morlightATnospammhonline.net>, <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: This is Love....
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Hahahaha Oh believe me, my crown is more than open...Chakras 8-12 are open
nicely also! <S>
I would like to take this opportunity in thanking you Mystress for your love
and guidance to those seeking information concerning Kundalini and spiritual
growth....the List is a wondeful service you provide.
Peace.......
>At 07:42 PM 21/07/98 -0400, THOMAS SMITH wrote:
>>Oh Mystress,that was beautiful and so free flowing....Thank You
> Yer welcome.. it seems to have blasted other folks more than you.. oh
>well.. :)
>>
>>How about one for the Third-eye now? ;)
> Give 'em an inch.. you be getting greedy, now. Your 3rd eye is already
>open.
>
>>
>>All the Blessings I have, I send to You
>>Tom
> I send em back..
> BB, A.
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 03:12:42 +0100
From: "jb" <janbarenATnospaminfase.es>
To: "K. list" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>, "Wonderer" <mrtn74aATnospamprodigy.com>
Subject: RE: Planting a Seed
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Cathy wrote:
[...]
> Is anyone familiar with the planting the seed concept? I am
> wondering if this is some sort of "magick", as in mysticism? The
> bible also uses much seed analogy, "As ye sow, so shall ye reap",etc.
> In my past life, my family were land owners and farmers; this too
> seems all connected as in a message.
>
> Sending seeds of love,
>
Something that comes to my mind is the analogy that attachments are the
plants that grow in the garden of our feelings. Self-surrender means
planting the 'tree of God' in your garden and nurturing it, so that it
becomes strong enough to withstand the storms (of our emotions, doubts and
fears). Then, this tree will by itself eliminate everything that opposes it
(like the shrubs of anger, pride, judgement). So plant your tree today - it
is free [:>)
Jan
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 22:23:19 EDT
From: AstraCastrATnospamaol.com
To: Lizard4663ATnospamaol.com, paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Planting a Seed
Message-ID: <b01fd4eb.35b69e98ATnospamaol.com>
In a message dated 98-07-22 17:31:25 EDT, Lizard4663ATnospamaol.com writes:
<<
Aren't we lucky? We have "God" on our list. Paul, you're ego grows daily.
Liz
>>
Liz,
Did you forget we are all God?
Mary
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 22:38:35 -0400
From: "Dhyani \"Debbie\"" <debhATnospammindspring.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: "Occult Physiology" and KRN Conference info
Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980722223835.006f0f3cATnospampop.mindspring.com>
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Hi everyone:
If anyone is interested in reading a summary I completed recently on Rudolf
Steiner's "Occult Physiology" please let me know and I will email a copy to
you. It is about 10 pages long. This piece is quite interesting
especially for anyone unfamiliar with Steiner's work.
I urge anyone dealing with Kundalini energy to read something by Steiner.
The Anthroposophic Press has loads of great books dealing with all aspects
of Anthroposophy. Steiner is still considered quite visionary even today.
I will be happy to recommend titles for your individual areas of interest
if you desire. Steiner lived and wrote around the turn of the century and
his work affected many fields including education, agriculture, medicine,
architecture, music, art, movement, and more.
Also - Is everyone aware of the Kundalini Research Network? They are
having a conference October 15-18 in Norcross, Georgia. Here are a few
phone numbers if you are interested:
Membership information: KRN, P.O. Box 1150, Cupertino, CA 95015 -
408-257-6241. Conference information call:
800-238-8685.
I have never attended a conference but they look quite interesting.
Last: Has anyone with active Kundalini energy experienced the sensation of
psychic illness when encountering another person with awakened "K" energy?
I have had difficulty with this for several years. I have experienced it
even over the phone. I will get quite dizzy, disoriented, lightheaded,
etc... It lasts about five or six hours.
My Anthroposophic Doctor says I must stay away from people who have energy
which comes into my field too closely.
Dhyani
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 15:13:54 +1200
From: Siva <guardianATnospamxtra.co.nz>
To: "Kat" <KCliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca>, <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: email troubles?
Message-Id: <199807230311.PAA03699ATnospamsmtp1.ihug.co.nz>
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I did have a it bounced but a copy also managed to get through even though
it said the message bounced.
Charan
At 16:25 22/07/98 -0400, Kat wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>I just recieved a message from someone that has told me that a email he sent
>me has bounced back to him. This is the second time. I am now wondering if
>other messages are not making it to me. Is anyone on this list getting
>email bounced back to them when they try to send me email?
>
>In L&L & Understanding,
>
>Katharine
>
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 01:49:45 -0500
From: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Kundalini & Manic Depressive disorder.
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Chuck wrote:
>(I have recently discovered that I have Attention Deficit Disorder - I
>suggest you persue that possibility - I strongly urge it....
<snipped for length>
>A lot of ADD people have been misdiagnosed as MDD.
Welcome to the club Chuck! I had this same thought but wasn't sure I should
express it. Now that you have, I'll jump on your bandwagon. Check out the
ADD thing, Gregory. You may find that it is a piece of your puzzle, just
like some of the rest of us here have, Including Angelique :-). I don't
have the URLs for the websites handy, but I found them by doing a search
for "ADD + adult." A paradigm on one of them that I found helpful is that
we are "Hunters in a Farmer's world."
>You must also get some exercise, eat reasonably and *get enough sleep*!
Also excellent advice. Works for me. Did Chuck mention getting enough
sleep? ;-P
>Say, where is Lobster lately? Did he go to a clambake by mistake?
I was wondering the same thing. I miss his refreshing spirit when he seems
to be "away." But, I'm sure he's lurking around here somewhere under a rock
or something....
>Be caught, Be cooked, Be Tasty!
Good one :-D
amckeon
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 01:49:56 -0500
From: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Light
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Paul West wrote:
>Has anybody here ever experienced or heard of seeing light emenating
>from other people's eyes?
I've seen it in the mirror :-)
Freaked me right out. I haven't seen it while looking at another person
though.
>I have also seen the same thing in the eyes of the family cat.
Seeing this in a cat's eyes is quite common. The structure of their eyes
must lend itself easily to light reflection.
amckeon
*meow*
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 05:06:59 EDT
From: F19AshATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: love for all that is
Message-ID: <9e5281ee.35b6fd34ATnospamaol.com>
i would like to know about the healing circles on the net myself...i joined
about a week ago also and posted a message to everyone asking what books are
good to read to learn about the kundalini. I also suggested it maybe was
dangerous, but the only response i got was about one line from one person
saying we all have to be open to it, whether it is dangerous or not... seems
kinda rude to make that response to someone who doesnt kno much about the
subject. Well I just hope the people on this list are as open to new ideas as
i am.
Thank you,
Emily (F19Ash)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 06:35:39 PDT
From: "Jose Arroyo" <jm_arroyoATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Unconditional Love
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Dear Katharine,
Wonderful! *VBS*
Love and Joy,
Jose
>
>Hi All,
>
>I had a realization last night that has feeled me with joy and a deep
sense
>of peace. As I was lying in bed trying to go to sleep and being unable
to I
>started to feel , this feeling of Love and peacefulness and then this
>thought came to my mind and I wish to share it with all.
>
>Unconditional Love simply is. It is that simple. The moment we try to
put
>it into words or give it thought or try to descripe it to ourselves or
>others
>we have put a condition on it.
>
>In L&L & Understandning,
>
>Katharine
>
>
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