1998/07/19 14:58
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #523
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 523
Today's Topics:
Re: My bizarre experiences [ ritag39ATnospamix.netcom.com ]
Re: Kundalini & Manic Depressive dis [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
Re: My bizarre experiences [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
K-list members: Remember to snip! [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
Thank you [ "Kat" <KCliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca> ]
Re: My bizarre experiences [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
Re: My bizarre experiences [ matrixATnospamroyaume.com ]
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 14:26:03 -0500 (CDT)
From: ritag39ATnospamix.netcom.com
To: TMulliganATnospamCentral.UH.edu
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Subject: Re: My bizarre experiences
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> I'm looking again for a spiritual path. I approached the Gurdjieff
>Foundation again last month, but they seem to think it's a better idea if I
>stay away. It seems that my experiences don't fit into their world view.
>(The New York leader told me that *I* was transforming the energy I was
>receiving into these forms.) I keep telling God that He needs to somehow
>compensate me for what happened to me before I approach Him again; I want an
>explanation and some assurances from Him. I feel like I can't trust God or
>any kind of meditation technique after all this. I feel like this is all
>some silly game.
>
>
Dear Tim,
I've been on the list for quite awhile, and and don't often reply to a post, until something
seems important like yours. I have been meditating for 27 years but prior to formal meditation I
too experienced some things like yourself, that no one else I ever knew had experienced. When I
first began experiencing things at night, I would contribute it to be from beings visiting me.
My first experiences were of spirits hands touching me. Warm waves of movement going through me.
First it was pleasant, and then not so pleasant. I could go on, but feel that elaboration of it
will not benefit you. I was a young girl then, with no knowledge.
But, through the years, I have learned that the Mind has a great influence upon our experiences.
There may be a nudging within nature to awaken you to your spirtual path. Often the waves of
energy and sense of touching comes from within Yourself. Your soul begins its unfoldment. The
kundalini becomes active. But, the small self needs to find an explanation for its experience,
and only has the "past" to rely on. Everything that has been happening to you was new in your
life. And, without proper guidance, you allow yourself to accept what is not real. Your
experiences are real, but your understanding of them are not. First of all, in the beginning it
was not an unpleasant experience, but you did not understand the experience. This lack of
understanding has slowly put fear in your heart. This fear within you, is what is causing your
problem, and not the "beings". But, before I continue, I want you to know that YOU have complete
control of this situation. It's good that you had an upbringing of Roman Catholic. I was
Lutheran. You have NOTHING to fear. When you awaken at night, whether in a superconscious sleep
state (no awareness of your body, yet awake inside) all you have to do is mentally speak to God.
There is a natural phenonmena called collective consciousness, and all of your experiences are
"collected" in an area of your mind. These experience actually "attract" like thought waves.
These things are attracted to you. And the only way to get rid of them is to "attract" higher
realities. Rather than eliminating the "things", you accept them! Acceptance, means
understanding, that these realities exist, but your soul force within you is in essence a part
of the Divine, and by turning inward, to your Higher Self, they will be gone, or will have no
influence upon you.
Faith is something that comes from the heart of all of us. Through our journey of self
discovery, we will experience many levels of existence. But, we must ONLY acknowledge it, and
turn inward again. Never lose sight of that One reality of God. When you feel that you are being
visited again, you must turn inward to God. As you contemplate God, and focus on Him, (like
contemplation meditation) all attention is directed. When your attention is directed toward the
Divine, the mental vibrations created in your mind will attract a higher vibration, neutralizing
the vibrations that have been attracting these experiences. So, is essence, you don't get rid of
the beings, but move on to a higher vibration. When you pray, there is no need to ask God to get
rid of these "creatures". They too, are apart of God's creation. But, you may direct your
prayers with an intention to understand, and seek His guidance and protection. Believe me, you
will be answered. If I can be of any other help I am here.
Sincerely,
Rita
On 07/17/98 11:07:37 you wrote:
>
> First of all, I want to thank Jeff Jackson for introducing me to
>this list. I hope I can receive some guidance from some of you kundalini
>veterans.
>
> Let me give you some background. I started out Roman Catholic.
>But I became interested in the occult at a very young age (about 9). By 16,
>I decided to return to the Church on my own. (My family had stopped
>attending.) I became a very religious Catholic, and soon planned to become
>a priest. But I was rejected twice by religious orders, once when I was 17,
>and again at the end of college. Both times, I was told that, on the basis
>of psychological testing, I would not make a good priest.
>
> I went to law school instead, and gradually my new critical skills
>began eroding my Catholic faith. I turned back to my old interest (the
>occult), but soon began to look at Buddhism. I couldn't bring myself to
>believe in reincarnation or karma, so I drifted to Taoism. And from Taoism
>I progressed to Krishnamurti. Finally, by age 32, I became an atheist of
>the scientistic type.
>
> But last year, at the age of 33, I felt called again to the
>spiritual. Amazingly, I joined the Baha'I Faith, but my stay with them was
>very brief; I found that they are the spiritual equivalent of Amway. By
>August of 1997, I needed another spiritual path. I searched the Internet
>and came across something called the Fourth Way. I investigated it, found
>that the Gurdjieff Foundation had a branch right here in Houston, and by
>September, I was attending their meetings.
>
> I know from your page that you are somewhat familiar with Gurdjieff,
>so I'll just tell you what I experienced. They meet once a week. Each
>meeting begins with a "sitting." The sitting is a kind of meditation. It
>involves scanning, sensing, the body part by part. Sensing one's physical
>body. It lasts for about 30 minutes. At the meeting, the sitting is guided
>by the leader. We were expected to sit at home each morning on our own.
>
> Beginning in late September, I followed this advice precisely. I
>was very attentive at the meetings. We were told that we would eventually
>receive a flow of energy beginning at the top of the head, moving down the
>spine, coming up the front through the genital area and up the chest and the
>face. By November, I began to experience this flow. I was told that this
>was *very* early for a beginner; the average length of time for this to
>start, I was told, was after about 5 years of practice. I was thrilled and
>amazed. My scientistic atheism was definitely out the window. But then
>something bizarre started.
>
> By the end of November, invisible hands began caressing me, touching
>me. They would touch my back, my head, my face. It was uncanny. I thought
>that these were spiritual helpers of some kind. They started to direct my
>movements, sometimes gently (always gently) lifting me to a standing
>position, moving my head to one side or back, etc. When I would go through
>periods of receiving the energy (and these periods could last for several
>hours), the hands often came. Then, they started some kind of construction
>project on me. They injected some kind of material into my forehead
>(apparently, my "third eye" had opened by now). They sprinkled and then
>spread some kind of material on my back and legs. I told my group leader
>about being "under construction" but she didn't have much to say about it.
>
> Things got more complicated in December. In addition to the hands,
>I was visited by what I can only describe as "creatures". They seemed like
>a sort of animal. They would glom onto my legs and bite my toes!! At this
>point, I figured that all was not well. These creatures came mostly at
>night, and especially when I went to bed. I would feel something like a hot
>blob, very large, sucking on my leg, and along with that sensation there
>would be the biting of my toes. I figured that these were some kind of
>creature from another dimension, feeding off of me. I was strangely
>accepting of it. It didn't freak me out that much, because at the time I
>thought this just went with spiritual advancement - an occupational hazard.
>The creatures would also bite the top of my head. And other creatures,
>which seemed somehow different, would sort of lick my face.
>
> At the end of December, things took a turn for the worse. The
>hands, or at least *some* hands, actually began to sexually manipulate me.
>They were jerking me off. It was absolutely unmistakable. I also felt like
>some kind of suction apparatus at times was affixed to my penis, and that
>something like a very thin catheter was being inserted into my penis. While
>this was happening, I kind of joked to myself, "Okay, when do I get the
>rectal probe?" Because this reminded me very much of what UFO abductees
>describe.
>
> After this, the hands became more obtrusive and obnoxious. For
>instance, when I got on a plane to fly back to Texas, they poked me in the
>ass. Stuff like that. When I would have my periods of energy flow, they
>would put their arm around my neck to block the flow, or put a hand under my
>chin to divert the flow.
>
>I left a few things out of this account. One was the fact that the
>"entities" created some kind of electrical "plug" on my back that they would
>occasionally tap into, creating a kind of buzzing sensation there. The
>other thing was that they installed some kind of living thing, like a big
>worm, inside my torso. This living thing would move around inside of me.
>Fortunately, I don't experience either of these phenomena anymore.
>
> After Christmas, I was quite sure that my little friends were not
>angels from God. When I got back to Houston, I told my group leader about
>them in great detail. She said that this was all beyond her experience, and
>suggested I speak to the leader that came from New York once a month. When
>I talked to him in mid-January, he told me I needed to see a psychiatrist,
>and that my experiences had nothing to do with "the Work."
>
> I did see a psychiatrist, and I continue to see one. I don't
>believe that these visitations are the product of psychosis, but the
>resulting depression and anxiety do require psychiatric care. I've been
>prescribed antipsychotics, and I take them, but it's just to "cover my
>bets."
>
> After my conference with the Big Cheese from New York, I went into a
>mild panic. I felt very isolated. I broke off contact with the Gurdjieff
>Foundation and stopped "sitting." My experiences were too real to write
>off. And the fact that I had been fine until I started this meditation was
>just too much of a coincidence.
>
> Eventually, I stopped feeling the hands. But up until very
>recently, I still felt something walking around on my bed, particularly at
>night. (I used to be able to feel both my little friends and the creatures
>approaching me when I sat on the bed - I felt the mattress being pressed
>down, although I never *saw* it go down.) Also, the energy stopped flowing.
>However, I still feel a constant movement at the top of my head. It simply
>will not go away.
>
> One more thing I should mention. This is the only experience I'm
>unsure about. One afternoon in December, during the thick of things, I was
>home and decided to open my blinds to let the sun in. I usually keep them
>down. After awhile, I noticed across the courtyard of my apartment building
>a man standing there, perfectly straight, and staring directly at me into my
>apartment across the courtyard. He was in his 30's, bearded, and wore a
>poncho (who wears ponchos these days? :-) ). All I can say is, you had to
>be there. His stare went right through me. At first I tried to ignore it.
>Finally, I approached my window. At that point, this gentleman turned to
>his right like a robot, and robotically walked away. I never saw him before
>and I haven't seen him since. I'm not sure what to make of this experience.
>My current theory is that either he was some kind of possessed person sent
>to "greet" me, or he was an apparition.
>
> So what do you think? At this point, I'm not sure what to do.
>
> I'm looking again for a spiritual path. I approached the Gurdjieff
>Foundation again last month, but they seem to think it's a better idea if I
>stay away. It seems that my experiences don't fit into their world view.
>(The New York leader told me that *I* was transforming the energy I was
>receiving into these forms.) I keep telling God that He needs to somehow
>compensate me for what happened to me before I approach Him again; I want an
>explanation and some assurances from Him. I feel like I can't trust God or
>any kind of meditation technique after all this. I feel like this is all
>some silly game.
>
> I'm also concerned about the constant movement at the top of
>my head. >Since November, when the energy flow started for me, I have
>experienced
> >a constant feeling of movement and pressure at the top of the head,
>down
> >to my forehead. It is a mixture of localized and more generalized
> >sensations. Sometimes it feels like drumming fingers, sometimes it
> >feels like a web being pressed down on my scalp, and sometimes it
>feels
> >like a tingling. I would like it to stop, since I don't appear to
>be
> >deriving any benefit from this whatsoever in terms of my spiritual
>life. Is this my crown chakra? My psychiatrist is treating it as if it
>were a hallucination.
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>Tim Mulligan
>TmulliganATnospamcentral.uh.edu <mailto:TmulliganATnospamcentral.uh.edu>
>
>P.S. The Gurdjieff people teach that kundalini is a VERY BAD THING. They
>teach that the direction of energy should be down into the head, down the
>back and up the front, and that kundalini energy is backwards, wrong, and
>keeps people from developing spiritually. Don't shoot the messenger! I'm
>just explaining their teaching. Right now, I'm completely agnostic about
>which way the energy should flow.
>
>
>
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 23:00:15 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: "jim privacy" <jprivacyATnospamhotmail.com>
Cc: ChuckOConnellATnospamcompuserve.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Kundalini & Manic Depressive disorder.
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At 07:09 AM 17/07/98 PDT, jim privacy wrote:
>Dear Chuck:
>
>Thanks for reprinting the Desiderata,
<...>
>I'd much rather read about someone's real experience than endless
>theorizing.
Yes!
I'd much rather read about someones personal experience than see
"Desiderata" reprinted onto the list, yet again.. original writings only,
please.. or post the URL, instead. I once bet someone that they could
probably find desiderata reprinted on several hundred websites.. they never
got back, to tell me I'd won the bet..
Thanks for sharing.. BB, M.
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 22:52:28 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: david.bozziATnospamsnet.net
Cc: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: My bizarre experiences
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At 03:19 PM 17/07/98 -0400, David Bozzi wrote:
>When I was young I rebuked the Easter Bunny.
>Where is he now?
>>Al Perhacs - Territory Manager wrote:
>> but be specific where you send them to ( I send
>> them to the dessert or antartica), so that they will stay there.
>
>Uh oh!
>That's where I sent the Easter Bunny.
David, you are totally delightful..:)
Al, don't be littering the planet with yer unwanted spooks.. Give to
Goddess what belongs to Goddess.. send them into the light to be transmuted
back into the love from whence they sprang. They'll be happier that way and
they'll shower you with blessings, after.
Blessings, Mystress.
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 12:51:19 -0700
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Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 16:14:28 -0400
From: "Kat" <KCliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Thank you
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Hi All,
Just a quick note to thank the many people that have responded to my
questions about the kundalini and how to get further information on it. My
computer is acting up at the moment but as soon as I have it fixed I will be
posting a message about my kundalini experience if anyone is interested.
Just one question: Are the demons we feel about us real? or is it just our
mind getting the better of us?
In L&L & Understanding,
Katharine
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 13:31:16 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: matrixATnospamroyaume.com
Cc: Al Perhacs - Territory Manager <atpATnospambluestone.com>,
jim privacy <jprivacyATnospamhotmail.com>, TMulliganATnospamCentral.UH.edu,
kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: My bizarre experiences
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At 03:25 PM 17/07/98 +0200, matrixATnospamroyaume.com wrote:
>I remember a dream one day.in my mind i had this théorie that Evil is
>only the representation of the bad side in life.the negative energie,but
>i sort of influence,on the scale of humanity,to evil.(difficult to
>explain in english :) sorry)
Yes, in English I would say that we call the things we fear, evil. We
fear pain and death, but these things are neutral of themselves, just
nature.. it is our attitudes that color them dark.
>in my dream,<...>
>i said to him:"(in my head to me and towar the evil) it's just a
>nightmare,evil spirit could not exist,it's only my reflet of the evil
>energie and i most face that in my life...)
>the angel reply:"yes,you right but you are wrong,many poeple on earth
>have build from their action,thinkings,believing,bad energie an entity.
>you forgot also,that if there is a sky,there is also earth.There is no
>energie that existing only in your mind,but also,it take an entity in
>the real world too."
This is a true seeing, and very wise. It is a place I have come to, also.
I think I can explain it as I see it..
Thoughts are things.. they are the prayers by which we shape our
experience of physical and nonphysical reality. They are our children and
they bear children of their own.
Every Thing has a spark of consciousness. So, the angel is saying that
many people use the power of thought to produce negative thought-form
entities, which then go about fulfilling their "agenda".
They are real because people believe in them and birth them with the
energy of thought. Then feed them with the attention of fear.
Ya get what ya pray for. Some saints spend a lot of energy worrying about
demons and their concern becomes productive enough to draw blood.
The light is loving enough to masquerade as the dark, so completely as we
are Goddess masquerading as human.. Angels forgetting their true self in a
dream of separation, to come down here and play the "bad guy" roles that we
request of them... by our fearful thoughts.
The Dark Angel in your dream played his "bad guy" role well, and gave you
a half-truth. He did not tell you the power of Free will in this arrangement.
I have learned a lot of rituals and energetic healing methods in my time,
and I am finding out the simplest, is the formula: everything has
consciousness, coz it is all Goddess.
So I simply speak to the blockages, entities, ghost toasties, whatever,
often telepathically, long distance... and persuade them to change
polarities, that their job is done, and the retirement party is in the
light.. I give them love, and they "wake up" enough to remember that they
made a choice to be doing what they have been doing, and they are free to
be something else.. and whatever they say, I don't really listen to their
"reasons" coz they are only word-traps, and I keep insisting whatever they
are after, can only be found, in the light. Whatever they want,whatever
they think they need, whatever purpose they serve, they can do it better
with the Light.
Unconditional love and limitless manifestation, can always find a better
way than anything a human mind can invent.
Sometimes they don't wanna listen to me, so I ask the Light to provide
someone whose authority they trust to tell them their real options, or ask
for them to have an Archangel Escort.. forcibly if they are infringing on
the free will-territory of another. There are Angels who enforce the divine
Edit of Free will.. and there are angels who are the dark manifestation of
that free will.
But they are changed to another Polarity, not sent to another place. Tho
I often visualize the transformation as a trip: out of the body=space -time
into light.. the eternal crucible of creation, to return as blessings.
The really short form of that, is to see the stuff all as blessings from
Goddess, inna first place.. then we never get to the judgment of "bad"...
and we don't feed it with fear, or make it transform into something that
will harm us.
>i have conclude ,when i awoke,that dreaming of evil and demon was good
>because i felt very well and liberated,ready for a transformation of me.
>(but i believe that there is a logical way to bad spirit and symbole of
>all kind,evil or not,take entity in the real world)
>-the energie=mc2......- no energie,no real.
> now i will not laught in face of the dark next time,but not fear it or
>feed it with my fear.
> yannick
>
Yup. Blessings, Mystress.
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 17:32:18 +0200
From: matrixATnospamroyaume.com
To: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
Cc: Al Perhacs - Territory Manager <atpATnospambluestone.com>,
jim privacy <jprivacyATnospamhotmail.com>, TMulliganATnospamCentral.UH.edu,
kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: My bizarre experiences
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Mystress Angelique Serpent wrote:
>
> At 03:25 PM 17/07/98 +0200, matrixATnospamroyaume.com wrote:
> >I remember a dream one day.in my mind i had this théorie that Evil is
> >only the representation of the bad side in life.the negative energie,but
> >i sort of influence,on the scale of humanity,to evil.(difficult to
> >explain in english :) sorry)
> Yes, in English I would say that we call the things we fear, evil. We
> fear pain and death, but these things are neutral of themselves, just
> nature.. it is our attitudes that color them dark.
>
> >in my dream,<...>
> >i said to him:"(in my head to me and towar the evil) it's just a
> >nightmare,evil spirit could not exist,it's only my reflet of the evil
> >energie and i most face that in my life...)
> >the angel reply:"yes,you right but you are wrong,many poeple on earth
> >have build from their action,thinkings,believing,bad energie an entity.
> >you forgot also,that if there is a sky,there is also earth.There is no
> >energie that existing only in your mind,but also,it take an entity in
> >the real world too."
> This is a true seeing, and very wise. It is a place I have come to, also.
> I think I can explain it as I see it..
> Thoughts are things.. they are the prayers by which we shape our
> experience of physical and nonphysical reality. They are our children and
> they bear children of their own.
> Every Thing has a spark of consciousness. So, the angel is saying that
> many people use the power of thought to produce negative thought-form
> entities, which then go about fulfilling their "agenda".
> They are real because people believe in them and birth them with the
> energy of thought. Then feed them with the attention of fear.
> Ya get what ya pray for. Some saints spend a lot of energy worrying about
> demons and their concern becomes productive enough to draw blood.
> The light is loving enough to masquerade as the dark, so completely as we
> are Goddess masquerading as human.. Angels forgetting their true self in a
> dream of separation, to come down here and play the "bad guy" roles that we
> request of them... by our fearful thoughts.
> The Dark Angel in your dream played his "bad guy" role well, and gave you
> a half-truth. He did not tell you the power of Free will in this arrangement.
>
> I have learned a lot of rituals and energetic healing methods in my time,
> and I am finding out the simplest, is the formula: everything has
> consciousness, coz it is all Goddess.
> So I simply speak to the blockages, entities, ghost toasties, whatever,
> often telepathically, long distance... and persuade them to change
> polarities, that their job is done, and the retirement party is in the
> light.. I give them love, and they "wake up" enough to remember that they
> made a choice to be doing what they have been doing, and they are free to
> be something else.. and whatever they say, I don't really listen to their
> "reasons" coz they are only word-traps, and I keep insisting whatever they
> are after, can only be found, in the light. Whatever they want,whatever
> they think they need, whatever purpose they serve, they can do it better
> with the Light.
> Unconditional love and limitless manifestation, can always find a better
> way than anything a human mind can invent.
> Sometimes they don't wanna listen to me, so I ask the Light to provide
> someone whose authority they trust to tell them their real options, or ask
> for them to have an Archangel Escort.. forcibly if they are infringing on
> the free will-territory of another. There are Angels who enforce the divine
> Edit of Free will.. and there are angels who are the dark manifestation of
> that free will.
> But they are changed to another Polarity, not sent to another place. Tho
> I often visualize the transformation as a trip: out of the body=space -time
> into light.. the eternal crucible of creation, to return as blessings.
> The really short form of that, is to see the stuff all as blessings from
> Goddess, inna first place.. then we never get to the judgment of "bad"...
> and we don't feed it with fear, or make it transform into something that
> will harm us.
>
> >i have conclude ,when i awoke,that dreaming of evil and demon was good
> >because i felt very well and liberated,ready for a transformation of me.
> >(but i believe that there is a logical way to bad spirit and symbole of
> >all kind,evil or not,take entity in the real world)
> >-the energie=mc2......- no energie,no real.
> > now i will not laught in face of the dark next time,but not fear it or
> >feed it with my fear.
> > yannick
> >
> Yup. Blessings, Mystress.
yes,so,is this explain my pain when i read some poeples letter about
talking of the demon.in my universe or in my head,i know i have to power
to face them and all of us can do that too.
and more,you are right about your reply.i don't like the word
"demon",and i laught of it i mean,i'm out of the range of demon for
now,and i won't to feed them,i have not to do this anyway.
thank mystress.my quest is to find the thruth(as an human) and the
logical way the control our mind,the cosmic wave of the star and
planet,the iner energie and how to be wise enought to know how to do and
when in bad situation.i don't know if this is imposibble,it's hard to
believe then someone can do that anyway,but asking question is an
obsesion for me i think.
yan
yan
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