1998/07/18 15:30
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #520
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 520
Today's Topics:
Re: Kundalini & Manic Depressive dis [ "jim privacy" <jprivacyATnospamhotmail.com ]
ostracism and rejection [ trexisATnospamjuno.com (Edward Gurd) ]
Re: Kundalini and Manic Depressive D [ onarresATnospaminreach.com ]
Re: surgery [ Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iis ]
Re: Kundalini & Manic Depressive dis [ Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iis ]
Re: ostracism and rejection [ valerie cooper <madammumATnospamptialaska. ]
miracles [ "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon. ]
Re: throat chakra [ "THOMAS SMITH" <WHITEKNIGHT11ATnospamprodi ]
Re: surgery [ WEIVODAATnospamaol.com ]
Re: surgery [ Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iis ]
book [ matrixATnospamroyaume.com ]
Re: ostracism and rejection [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
true self [ "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon. ]
Fw: Returned mail: Host unknown (Nam [ "Kat" <KCliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca> ]
AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Cen [ Katharine Clifford <kcliffordATnospamodyss ]
My Kundalini Experiences [ Ron Grimes <rogrimeATnospamibm.net> ]
Tim [ starjunkyATnospamuswest.net ]
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 17:57:34 PDT
From: "jim privacy" <jprivacyATnospamhotmail.com>
To: serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Kundalini & Manic Depressive disorder./Shaktipat
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Dear Mystress:
Thank you for a lovely post. I agree with all you said about healing,
letting the energy flow through the healer, not being drained by it,
etc.
Please tell me more about shaktipat awakening. I attended a meditation
intensive in 1982 promising shaktipat awakening, had an intense
psychedilic experience, then found out later my Guru was quite unethical
in many ways. Is it possible I got something other than Shaktipat from
her? Because she taught that only a "perfect master" could give
Shaktipat, and she is clearly imperfect. Well, so am I.
Would appreciate your thoughts/experiences on this subject. Also, how do
*you* grant shaktipat, and do you charge for this? Another zap would
never hurt. Thanks.
Love, -Jim
> I recognize the higher purpose of my experience tho.. since I was
born
awakened, I would not know what it is like to be trying to cope with
life
as an unawakened adult, other wise.
My opinion is that it is awful, loneliness and uncertainty and bleah
dark
cold .... Yoikes. and so I am motivated to grant Shaktipat.
<snip>
Some folks speak of becoming "drained" by healing others.. this is not
what it seems. The energy is limitless, and Goddess provides.. even if
the
ability of the healer to channel energy is not limitless
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Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 00:03:03 -0400
From: trexisATnospamjuno.com (Edward Gurd)
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: ostracism and rejection
Message-ID: <19980718.000305.9182.2.trexisATnospamjuno.com>
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 12:22:13 -1000 (HST)
From: Liz Gorman <Lizard4663ATnospamaol.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
Message-Id: <199807162222.MAA28379ATnospamhaleakala.aloha.net>
My Kundalini experience started almost 3 years ago. I felt a "burning"
in the small of my back, after "seeing" a big black ??? hovering around
me. Later that evening, as I was falling asleep, I felt electricity
going up my spine and down the front of me. This led to: cessation of
asthma, telepathic conversations, visits from demons (horrible) and
finally, visit to psych hospital and medication for "hallucinations".
The demons were a part of my life and there was no escaping them. I am
now fine, for the most part, no meds, feel "electric" often, have OBOs,
brain function has increased, feel at peace.
Liz
From: "Mulligan, Tim" <TMulliganATnospamCentral.UH.edu>
To: "'kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com'" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: My bizarre experiences
But I was rejected twice by religious orders, once when I was 17,
and again at the end of college. Both times, I was told that, on the
basis
of psychological testing, I would not make a good priest.
I did see a psychiatrist, and I continue to see one. I don't
believe that these visitations are the product of psychosis, but the
resulting depression and anxiety do require psychiatric care. I've been
prescribed antipsychotics, and I take them, but it's just to "cover my
bets."
My psychiatrist is treating it as if it were a hallucination.
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: AfperryATnospamaol.com
Cc: nancyATnospamwtp.net, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Kundalini & Manic Depressive disorder.
At 17, I fell madly in love with a fella who didn't like my ESP. I think
it was mostly coz his friends made fun of him for having a girlfriend who
said she was psychic. He did not say so right away.. instead when I asked
for confirmation of my intuitive impressions, he would lie and tell me I
was mistaken. This undermined my faith in the inner voice.. I was an
insecure girl anyways.. I'd spent a lot of time growing being an
ostracized
victim.. often happens with awakened children, they don't fit.. herd
instincts reject them as too different... so I stopped trusting and
listening, and it faded.
OOOOOOOH, THESE ANECDOTES OF OSTRACISM AND REJECTION REALLY BURN MY
BALLS. I can't help but wonder how many people in the fourties and
fifties were locked up in asylums or LOBOTOMIZED because the "experts" in
society were so damned ignorant about the supernatural realities at play
in peoples' lives. With the unpopularity of lobotomies with the knife in
the present day, ignorant doctors and psychologists prefer to blind and
lobotomize people with poisonous psychoreactive pharmasudicals. After
all, if you can't SEE the negative energy creatures sucking the
life energy out of your body, why should you even care if you are
infested?!?!
Life is difficult and confusing enough trying to wander through it
blindly without the slaps and setbacks from those who don't know and
could care less.
I've long ago lost count of the persons and groups that have rejected me
or the thousands of hours of isolation I've endured as a result. Few
things piss me off as much as seeing or hearing of someone being cast out
or permanently ignored for no good reason. It makes the idea of an ever
present ever loving God seem like a mockery.
off to change his charred shorts
EG
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Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 23:51:06 -0700
From: onarresATnospaminreach.com
To: MoonDghtrATnospamaol.com, ChuckOConnellATnospamcompuserve.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Kundalini and Manic Depressive Disorder
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At 04:45 PM 7/17/98 EDT, MoonDghtrATnospamaol.com wrote:
>Chuck wrote:
>
><< A Question for Mystress: What is the 'mirror game' and how does one
'play'
> it? >>
>This is when you look *softly* into a mirror (sort of letting your eyes go
out
>of focus yet you still see your reflection). You can see your other selves
>this way.
> ~~~Judy
Another thought on this subject, and I am not sure if this is the mirror
game or not - since I don't have an explanation for it - look into the
mirror with your eyes looking above the head, out of focus, as if you were
trying to see your aura. Then the body disappears, you see nothing, at
least that's the way I experienced it. dor
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 12:38:34 +0530 (IST)
From: Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in>
To: Jose Arroyo <jm_arroyoATnospamhotmail.com>
cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: surgery
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.93.980718123725.24595D-100000ATnospamBhaskara>
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kristin wish u much strength and Love
love,
Anurag
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 12:53:02 +0530 (IST)
From: Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in>
To: jim privacy <jprivacyATnospamhotmail.com>
cc: serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com,
kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Kundalini & Manic Depressive disorder./Shaktipat
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On Fri, 17 Jul 1998, jim privacy wrote:
> Dear Mystress:
>
> Thank you for a lovely post. I agree with all you said about healing,
> letting the energy flow through the healer, not being drained by it,
> etc.
>
> Please tell me more about shaktipat awakening. I attended a meditation
> intensive in 1982 promising shaktipat awakening, had an intense
> psychedilic experience, then found out later my Guru was quite unethical
> in many ways. Is it possible I got something other than Shaktipat from
> her? Because she taught that only a "perfect master" could give
> Shaktipat, and she is clearly imperfect. Well, so am I.
>
> Would appreciate your thoughts/experiences on this subject. Also, how do
> *you* grant shaktipat, and do you charge for this? Another zap would
> never hurt. Thanks.
Shaktipat can be grated by dorect physical touch mostly on forehead ot
through photograph or even through telepathy. Yes, one need to charge for
this. That's what i know.
Love,
Anurag
>
> Love, -Jim
>
>
>
> > I recognize the higher purpose of my experience tho.. since I was
> born
> awakened, I would not know what it is like to be trying to cope with
> life
> as an unawakened adult, other wise.
> My opinion is that it is awful, loneliness and uncertainty and bleah
> dark
> cold .... Yoikes. and so I am motivated to grant Shaktipat.
> <snip>
> Some folks speak of becoming "drained" by healing others.. this is not
> what it seems. The energy is limitless, and Goddess provides.. even if
> the
> ability of the healer to channel energy is not limitless
>
>
> ______________________
> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
>
>
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 23:39:30 +0000
From: valerie cooper <madammumATnospamptialaska.net>
To: Edward Gurd <trexisATnospamjuno.com>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: ostracism and rejection
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> <snip>OOOOOOOH, THESE ANECDOTES OF OSTRACISM AND REJECTION REALLY BURN
> MY
> BALLS.
<snip>
> Life is difficult and confusing enough trying to wander through it
> blindly without the slaps and setbacks from those who don't know and
> could care less.
> I've long ago lost count of the persons and groups that have rejected
> me
> or the thousands of hours of isolation I've endured as a result. Few
> things piss me off as much as seeing or hearing of someone being cast
> out
> or permanently ignored for no good reason. It makes the idea of an
> ever
> present ever loving God seem like a mockery.
>
> off to change his charred shorts
so - Edward,
Are you trying to say that you're having a "bad hair day"?
Can you be more explicit in your volatile reaction; mayhaps
targetting specific phrases which set you off, & why?
You can just 'cut & paste' - no need to name names or anything.
I (for one) think these perceptions of being "outcast" might prove
very pertinent in educating people who needs to be heard, & why.
sincerely,
vc
Date: 18 Jul 98 13:16:13 +0000
From: "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: miracles
Message-Id: <35B0A01D.MD-0.196.paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
hello.
I had a dream this morning in which I seemed to be performing
miracles.
At first, I seemed to have let slip the question "how are you" to some
inanimate object that I didn't consiver to be alive, and I got a
simple and prompt answer "I am fine thankyou". This threw me a bit.
Then I exprienced that I was in love with an inanimate object, not a
desire but a real, pure love. And somehow this made us bond and then
my will had complete ability to manipulate the thing, bending it,
stretching it, deforming it.
I moved on, walking around the local area which seemed to be mainly
indoors, letting myself love various things as a sort of way of
getting in touch with them, and then manipulating the thing. It was
surprisingly straightforward and not at all fantastic. It was like
some ability that is natural, and it only worked through love.
Any suggestions?
--
Paul.
IRC: #amiga, Dalnet: #blitz
WWW: http://www.stationone.demon.co.uk
E-M: paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 09:40:17 -0400
From: "THOMAS SMITH" <WHITEKNIGHT11ATnospamprodigy.net>
To: "Jose Arroyo" <jm_arroyoATnospamhotmail.com>, <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: throat chakra
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>Reject the fear, negativity. Open yourself and let Love pass and come out
of you. You choose dear one.
>
I once felt rejecting fear was the answer, no more. Rejecting a belief
simply pushes it to the side but, by rejecting/pushing you simply create
more problems.
My belief is to look at the situation. Get in touch with what triggers the
"fear", or whatever else arrises you wish to work with.
"rejection" is a fear itself...
Namaste'
Tom
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 10:42:37 EDT
From: WEIVODAATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: surgery
Message-ID: <5573f732.35b0b45eATnospamaol.com>
I just wanted to say thanks to everyone who has sent me messages. I just
returned from the hospital, the surgery went as good as it could. Never told
you what kind of surgery I was having, well, I had a cancer cyst removed from
my ovary(which I find out the results in a week) , part of gland removed, and
my appendix due to a virus infecting them. I hope this make sense, I am still
pretty drugged on pain killers, sorry if it does not.
By the way Mystress, I live at Lake Tahoe, CA. I had surgery down in Reno, NV.
I am still in Reno right now, I am not ready to make the trip back up to the
mountains yet.
Kristin
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 21:02:37 +0530 (IST)
From: Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in>
To: WEIVODAATnospamaol.com
cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: surgery
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.93.980718205920.29601A-100000ATnospamBhaskara>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Kristin r u fine now? Hope the disease has all gone. Love and healing
energy coming ur way.
Love,
Anurag
On Sat, 18 Jul 1998 WEIVODAATnospamaol.com wrote:
> I just wanted to say thanks to everyone who has sent me messages. I just
> returned from the hospital, the surgery went as good as it could. Never told
> you what kind of surgery I was having, well, I had a cancer cyst removed from
> my ovary(which I find out the results in a week) , part of gland removed, and
> my appendix due to a virus infecting them. I hope this make sense, I am still
> pretty drugged on pain killers, sorry if it does not.
> By the way Mystress, I live at Lake Tahoe, CA. I had surgery down in Reno, NV.
> I am still in Reno right now, I am not ready to make the trip back up to the
> mountains yet.
> Kristin
>
>
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 14:14:06 +0200
From: matrixATnospamroyaume.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: book
Message-Id: <35B0918E.6F08ATnospamroyaume.com>
i'm yannick,
someone ask me to tell for a good book about how to raise
your kundalini and why and how to use it.
book:the téurgy practice autor:samael aun weor.
it's a point if you are experienced in qabal or initiated to spirit.
i don't read a lot,i have only readed 3 book completetly,i don't know
more title,sorry about that.
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 11:07:11 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: trexisATnospamjuno.com (Edward Gurd)
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: ostracism and rejection
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Edward wrote:
>OOOOOOOH, THESE ANECDOTES OF OSTRACISM AND REJECTION REALLY BURN MY>BALLS.
<...> After
>all, if you can't SEE the negative energy creatures sucking the
>life energy out of your body, why should you even care if you are
>infested?!?!
They say, what you don't know can't hurt you.. If you don't fear the
creatures, can they harm you? If you can learn to love them, they will get
overstuffed and transform.
>Life is difficult and confusing enough trying to wander through it
>blindly without the slaps and setbacks from those who don't know and
>could care less.
Give love to all the little demons, they do Goddess' work, when they
chase you to heaven with pitchforks poking you inna butt.
>I've long ago lost count of the persons and groups that have rejected me
>or the thousands of hours of isolation I've endured as a result.
You were never alone. By rejecting you, they threw you back onto your
individuality, to your own higher resources. They say, "there are no
atheists on a battlefield".. so you kept getting sent into battles, to
strengthen your faith.
>Few
>things piss me off as much as seeing or hearing of someone being cast out
>or permanently ignored for no good reason. It makes the idea of an ever
>present ever loving God seem like a mockery.
Bless the prejudicial border guards who caused me so much agony of
rejection.. not yet finished, next hearing in October. I thought I had
gotten over my rejection issues enough to take confidence in my uniqueness,
to play with folks negative ideas of my image as a game of peek-a-boo. In
Jan-Feb before the last hearing, I was getting panic attacks.. feeling like
I was dealing with a weight of karma much, much bigger than me.
I felt helpless enough to ask the list for help.. the outflow of love and
appreciation I received was a completely unexpected surprise.. an amazing
gift I shall never forget, I honestly had no idea I was so cherished. The
walls I had put up against fear of rejection, that were forgotten remnants
of a harsh past, would not let those feelings in, before.
My giving love without expectation of return, was a convenient spiritual
exercise, but also an attitude to defend against disappointment .. it did
not matter if it was returned, my walls couldn't let it in, anyways. Till
the tidal wave of Kundalites washed the wall
away.
It opened a "flower of Joy" chakra in my chest, which gives me a gift of
absolute belonging. .. now I'm getting misty.. it is one of those things..
still so beautiful, it hurts..
>
>off to change his charred shorts
>
>EG
>
Last night I was working on a post explaining Shaktipat.. (unfinished) I
ended up putting myself into too deep a trance to keep typing, and went off
to sleep.
I rarely dream, when I do it's usually kind of lucid.
Before awaking this morning, I dreamt I was in a big house south of the
border, with a lot of people I know who did not act like themselves much,
and didn't really belong there.. I was waking around radiating so much
negative energy, fear, anger, depression, rejection, .. that everyone I
spoke to either killed themselves, tried to kill me and missed and killed
themselves, or went to do a murder -suicide. I was the only one who walked
out alive.. my depression grown by events, till it was an altered state of
numbness,.. more weird things happened.. went to the airport to come back
to Canada, was greeted there by another familiar face whom telepathy told
me was a policewoman hoping I would contradict my earlier affidavits.. so
she could arrest me and hold me in the US.. I became more lucid at this
point, and asked her to hold my coat.. then spread my wings and flew away
with my suitcase in hand..
So now I am going off to the beach to spend the day with plenty of good
energy around me, sun sand and big cedar forest.. and happy naked pagans
drumming.. and just be gentle with myself, as the issues manifest and
clear..
The surface message of the dream is pretty obvious.. I am too influential
thru my Shakti, to indulge in self pity or anger.. such behavior grows
destructive quickly.. but there is more to it.. Every person in the dream
is an aspect of myself... My k. has found some more stuff to clear, I
shaktizapped myself, good, last night. My "sine wave" is short and not
extreme, but I still feel it..
Thankyou, for reminding me how much I am loved. I am sorry, that my
stories of past events upset you so.. I hope this post helps you come to
terms.. I wonder if mebbie you were in the dream..??
Blessings, Mystress.
Date: 18 Jul 98 20:05:02 +0000
From: "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: true self
Message-Id: <35B0FFBD.MD-0.196.paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
Hello.
I heard something said today and it shook me.
"Live for the moment, that's who I am".
I have been wondering lately, "where am I". There's all these bits and
pieces but I seem to be nowhere.
To suggest that a person is not in their truest identity as a person,
or as a body, or as a mind, or as a thought-self, but rather that
their true identity is the present moment, feels natural. Immortal.
--
Paul.
IRC: #amiga, Dalnet: #blitz
WWW: http://www.stationone.demon.co.uk
E-M: paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 15:21:25 -0400
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In my hurry to get an answer I mistakenly sent this to one member on the
list! Well now hopefully I am sending it to the list! :-)
>Hi All,
>
>I am wondering is there a book on the market that tells a person what to do
>if they have accidently arisen their kundalini and are not ready for it? I
>believe this is happening to me and it is driving me nuts. I have learnt a
>important lesson out of this one however. Never play with something you do
>not have full knowledge on! I just hope my lesson can be fully learnt
>before this thing drives me insane! Believe me when I say that strange
>things are really happening to me. Mine was brought on by playing
>incorrectly with my root chakra and early menopause. At least this is what
>I think has caused it. I have been suffering with it for over a year now
>but was not aware of what it was that I was going through until recently.
>
>In L&L & Understanding
>
>Katharine
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 09:31:02 -1000 (HST)
From: Katharine Clifford <kcliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
Message-Id: <199807181931.JAA16608ATnospamhaleakala.aloha.net>
Hi All,
I am wondering is there a book on the market that tells a person what to do
if they have accidently arisen their kundalini and are not ready for it? I
believe this is happening to me and it is driving me nuts. I have learnt a
important lesson out of this one however. Never play with something you do
not have full knowledge on! I just hope my lesson can be fully learnt
before this thing drives me insane! Believe me when I say that strange
things are really happening to me. Mine was brought on by playing
incorrectly with my root chakra and early menopause. At least this is what
I think has caused it. I have been suffering with it for over a year now
but was not aware of what it was that I was going through until recently.
In L&L & Understanding
Katharine
Ps: I am on the list but accidently sent this message to one member instead of all. I tried to send it to all but I guess I have the wrong address for sending mail. Could someone please let me know the correct address so that I do not have to go to the homepage to get it done? Thanks in advance!!!
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 14:09:47 -0600
From: Ron Grimes <rogrimeATnospamibm.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: My Kundalini Experiences
Message-ID: <35B10F1B.C92E7D52ATnospamibm.net>
I already introduced myself as far as my interest in kundalini from an
astrological research basis, but I thought I should also tell a little
about my experiences. I would appreciate any feedback.
My experiences began in 1993 with the feeling of hot fluid rushing up
the spine in the small of my back. Later, I began to feel a constant
upward pushing force on the center of the inside of my head, as well as
in the area traditionally known as the third eye. The physical phenomena
did not bother me so much; that was easy to grow accustomed to.
What really bothered me was that everything I thought I knew and
believed began to come crashing down. In fact, I would be unrecognizable
to the person I was 5+ years ago. I have gone from being a devout
Mormon, to being avidly interested in Hindu thought, to now feeling at
peace within Zen.
In trying to convey to people what this has meant to me, I have often
said, "It has been as though God took out his eraser and went to work on
me. What is left is the real me."
But to continue with the physical phenomena, during this process of
being erased, a lot of anger and my own demons came up. The fire of all
that damaged my nerves, and I ended up with Bell's Palsy on Dec 4th
1996, and it's never completely gone away.
As everything stands today, the main physical experience is that my
brain frequently feels as though someone is sending an electrical buzz
through it. Often, every thought flees me and only the true Mind
remains. Time seems to become less and less a factor as it disappears.
The Great Way shows its faceless face more and more often, but I no
longer feel a need to pursue That which has always been and is
unattainable.
"No eye, ear, nose, tongue, body, mind;
No color, sound, smell, taste, touch, phenomena.
No realm of sight -- No realm of consciousness;
No ignorance and no end to ignorance;
No old age and death, and no end to old age and death;
No suffering, no cause of suffering, no extinguishing, no path;
No wisdom and no gain." - excerpt from Heart Sutra
Isn't that where kundalini rising takes us all?
Namaste,
Ron Grimes
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 03:45:04 -0600
From: starjunkyATnospamuswest.net
To: "kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Tim
Message-ID: <35B06E9F.96708549ATnospamuswest.net>
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Tim:
It seems that my remark was ignorant and I apologize. I hope that
I did not say anything that lead to anything detrimental. Please follow
the advice of who has experience with such things. Ladychristos
educated me with her experiences of the similar nature as yours.
Lobster also put it in perspective for me.
I do not wish for my words to hinder you in anyway. That would be
exactly opposite of my whole purpose. Im learning here. Sorry that I
spoke without being educated on the subject. I am now a little bit and
I did learn not to respond so reactively.
Deepest Apologies
Aimee
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