1998/07/17 17:57
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #519
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 519
Today's Topics:
re: to paul [ matrixATnospamroyaume.com ]
Re: not for fragile hearth. [ matrixATnospamroyaume.com ]
RE: My bizarre experiences [ "Sessions, JoAnn F. (Artco)" <jases ]
RE: paths.... oops [ "Sessions, JoAnn F. (Artco)" <jases ]
Request for Charts [ Ron Grimes <HPRGRIMEATnospamihc.com> ]
Continue to be... [ "Sessions, JoAnn F. (Artco)" <jases ]
Re: Kundalini & Manic Depressive dis [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
Re: Kundalini and Manic Depressive D [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
RE: town without pity [ "jb" <janbarenATnospaminfase.es> ]
RE: Kundalini & Manic Depressive dis [ "jb" <janbarenATnospaminfase.es> ]
RE: My bizarre experiences [ "jb" <hc19436ATnospamautovia.com> ]
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 17:13:01 +0200
From: matrixATnospamroyaume.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: re: to paul
Message-Id: <35AF69FD.1806ATnospamroyaume.com>
i have'nt met someone before where able to feel what i feel.i mean,it's
out of the commun,but it's true right in front of my eyes.
we will continue to write as human :) done usualy.
i will answer many of your question.
i were suposed to participate
a initiation ceremonie juste as a symbol as our interior initiation(mean
that i have learned the 7 sacred letter from ebrew in qabalistic)
i had to leave cause my goal is to find my wife(strange too),and have to
leave cause i got afraid of the same energie from my master.i felt his
intention,and i got afraid of that.i were afraid to be fool.
(i have lost your last Email with all the question :( )
sorry,if you have a copy of your Email for me,send it to me paul,i have
lost all the question ,i have lost that Email.
thanks
yannick
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 17:23:23 +0200
From: matrixATnospamroyaume.com
To: starjunkyATnospamuswest.net
Cc: "kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: not for fragile hearth.
Message-Id: <35AF6C6B.5E8BATnospamroyaume.com>
starjunkyATnospamuswest.net wrote:
>
> matrixATnospamroyaume.com wrote:
>
> > i need some more information and seek answers about what we have done,
> > if it's bad or good.
>
> Did you ever have a time when you felt that a decision was laid upon your
> heart to be good or bad. Did you ever make a choice ? You do have a
> choice... If you choose to Love all life and not manipulate people things
> or life your pretty much good but it is whats held in your heart that
> you'll be judged on.
>
> > kundalini praticing refering in fact to the eden garden(some many other
> > religion could refering to other that too)
> > the 7th seal of apocalypse and the 7th chakra and the 7th heaven(in
> > term):
>
> I think that this spontaneous awakening of everybody is the 7th seal. The
> one that God told them not to write it down in the bible. I think and
> once a gain this is my personal opinion that this is the 2nd coming of
> Christ. The time is now so it is written. You have the choice to be on
> which ever side your heart says to go. If you have doubt pray cause non
> of us here can tell you if your good or bad . I dont think we have a
> choice if were to be awakened or not. Its what is happening in evelution.
> The choice is which side do you choose to give your energies to.
>
> > there two snake on the "colone veterbral" one goes up,one goes down(like
> > the vein in the human body)
> > so,the energie can be stimulated by the sexual act with the kundalini
> > pratice stimulating all the 7 chakra.
> > 7th heaven,the strong way to force the enlightment of yourself.
> > at the the extasis,you liberate that energie trough the crown chakra
> > and goes down into your earth(body) if you don't folow some strict rules
> > about practicing that.so in that way,you reverse the pole of the energie
> > you got in meditation to strengment your wisdom.
> > it refering to the 7th seal.
> > but it's not the the end of the world of your life.
>
> I think its the end of the world walking in darkness. I believe in a 100
> years for sure it'll be back to heaven on earth. Were just the beginning.
>
> > so,who write the bible,why? i don't believe unlogical things and
> > uncorean things without reason.
>
> You know who wrote the bible. A few witnesses just like yourself but the
> savior was there in flesh to erase all doubt so it could be written for us
> .
>
> > gofi chrishna told that the kundalini praticing without being leaded,are
> > the commun problem of our society.
> > it's simple,you have to chose between,pay now or pay later by
> > love/sacrifice your ego or pay to got tourment by the live.
> > it's a dual between your ago and your faith(or spirit)
> > if anyone could report what they discovered about that and what their
> > opinion please i want to hear what you think about.
> > cause i believe that we are things and discoverd the same things coming
> > from nowhere(or not so far,our thrue nature?)
> > thanks,trought the time,you will earn liberation(love)
> > yannick
yes,i have some feeling that the "end" of the world are near but it's a
transformation.the human kind may suffer to be transformated.
looks in the world and so many things you are,for sure,able to know.
i always tought like you in your last letter too.(not this one,the one
i've lost sorry about that)
i'm sure that the world will know a transformation.
many things risk to be not easy to accept for the first time in all
matter of things.
i have many reply,and sorry,i'm not able to follow.
bye all,i must leave for a couple of hour.
I,ll be back soon
bye
yannick
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 16:24:34 -0500
From: "Sessions, JoAnn F. (Artco)" <jasessionsATnospamartco.zgate.com>
To: starjunkyATnospamuswest.net
Cc: "'Post'" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: RE: My bizarre experiences
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I just wanted to share something with you that effected me most of my
life. Tim has shared some problems that he is having. I just want you
to know that I had very similar encounters to what Tim did from the time
I was a small child. My experiences where not those of little beings
touching me, mine took different forms and my experiences were some what
different, but they came from the same source. During this time I never
had the mark of the beast or the mark of the satan's apon me. In fact
it was quite the opposite, the more I came to doing everything I felt I
should the stronger the experiences became. It because quite unnerving,
and at times I felt as if I was physically endangered. I also had the
blessing of guardian angels nearby, but at most times I felt alone with
these evil forces. Luckily I had a father who was spiritually sensitive,
and was partially aware of what I was going through, other wise I could
have classified as psycho too.
I learned some very important lessons that allowed me to move out of he
power of the beings that harassed me. The first at most important
lesson I learned was about light. Light is to the spirit what blood is
to the body. It is the source of life. Just as there are many shades
of color to the rainbow, there are many levels of light within souls.
Some being are able to take direct light from the source and flourish in
it, other beings must receive reflected light in order to survive.
Direct light would be mush too power for them, and could cause them
harm. There are two ways these being receive light, they either find a
willing host (that is able to receive direct light) or they take the
light from an unwilling host (through fear). I think this is what has
been going with Tim.
The second lesson I learned is that these "entities" are made up of the
same spiritual matter as we are. They truly are no different than we
are, but they sometimes manifest themselves differently because it
serves their purpose better. If they are truly beings that do not
possess a physical body, then the only power they have over us, is that
which we give them
The third lesson I learned is that when we think about these beings, or
these fears, we summon them to us, and give them power over us. They
can not enter our lives, unless we leave a door open for them to enter
through. The trick is finding the open door.
The fourth lesson I learned is that it is a blessing to have these
beings around. Because god allowed me to go through the experiences I
did, I can easily distinguish between those souls that serve my father
and those that don't. I am grateful for that, it is easy for me to
recognize his voice verses another masters now. Also, they can serve as
a warning device. Many times I have no contact at all with them, then
when they come back, I know something important is about to happen in my
life. Nothing makes them disappear quicker than to express your
unconditional love for them, and thank them for coming to warn you
something important is about to happen in your life, and mean it.
The fifth lesson I learned, is that these beings who are not physical,
serve a physical master, or an ascended master. This is where we need
divine help the most.
I do not believe that any being is completely evil, or completely dark.
In every being there is light, or they would cease to exists I think we
are all just in the process of learning. We each have gifts of the
spirit, and we are able to chose how we use those powers. It is the
same for those beings that aren't manifested physically, as those who
are.
Well, I hope this is helpful. Just remember these beings are no more
strange or powerful than we are. In fact they are more than likely also
still progressing. Without them, playing their role in our lives, it
would be very difficult for any of us to learn. They serve the purpose
that they were created for. With out choice, there is no free will.
lady christos
P.S. In the past before I became conscious of how I effected this
beings sleeping with books I considered sacred helped, as did
inspirational music. Casting them out in the name of Christ also works,
as far as you believe it to.
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Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 16:29:25 -0500
From: "Sessions, JoAnn F. (Artco)" <jasessionsATnospamartco.zgate.com>
To: F19AshATnospamaol.com, "'Post'" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: RE: paths.... oops
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Oops...
There comes a point in everyone's life where the path they have been
following comes to a fork in the road. It is at this fork that they
begin to realize that they are no longer able to just keep on walking in
the same direction they have been for so many years. They must chose,
do I deviate to the left, or do I turn to the right in order to stay on
the path that leads to the destination I chose so long ago . There are
also two less obvious choices that can be made at this point in a
person's life, to simply turn around and follow the path back to it's
beginning, or keep moving forward following no well worn path at all.
So many times when we are faced with this situation we may want to take
the path that leads to the left, as it seems to be the most well worn
path. There are no immediate hills to climb, or streams to cross that
we can see. It seems to be the easiest path of all. Yet, when we look
to the right there are hills, that must be climbed, but they are not too
steep, even though there are many. But on closer examination we notice
the flowers that bloom upon the path side, and beautiful walk we may
expect ahead. Yet, we do not know, what may wait up the path ahead.
Looking forward there is no set path, but there is a river that must be
crossed, and a mountain directly in the line of sight that must be
climb. The sight would be breath taking from the top, and we would be
able to see all around us. Yet, there is no well worn path to mark our
way, and fear we may be lost. An eagle sits on the branch of a tree
attentive to are every move, and a deer waits in the thicket not knowing
whether to run and hide, or greet us on our journey.
Looking backward, we see the path we have been walking. It is such a
familiar path, and we know what to expect there. It is fairly flat,
and we can see our own foot steps that would lead us back down the way
we are so familiar. The dust still has not settled from our walking.
Better to be safe then sorry, we say, and walk to where we have already
been. Never knowing that all paths eventually lead to the same
destination. The only difference being the experiences that we obtain
upon the way and the joy we experience from our lessons learned. How
much more we might have done and seen, if we had but chosen more bravely
.
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From: F19AshATnospamaol.com[SMTP:F19AshATnospamaol.com]
Sent: Friday, July 17, 1998 2:45 PM
To: jasessionsATnospamartco.zgate.com
Subject: Re: paths....
what is this document supposed to be? it didnt turn up really
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 16:07:34 -0600
From: Ron Grimes <HPRGRIMEATnospamihc.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Request for Charts
Message-Id: <s5af76df.081ATnospamihc.com>
Hi,
I just subscribed to the list, so I thought I would introduce myself. My own experiences over the past few years, which I am told have no medical cause, have pushed me to look elsewhere for possible explanations. So, I thought this would be a good place to see if other people's experiences are similar.
Also, as a professional Hindu astrologer, I have been doing research into the charts of people who experience kundalini phenomena. I hope it is appropriate to ask if any of you would be willing to share your birth data (date, place, time), along with some chronology of kundalini experiences. If so, please e-mail it to me privately, and I will include it in my research.
In particular, my research has shown common features in the charts of those individuals whose kundalini experiences have provoked psychic disturbances. This proves to be important in the astrological counseling of such individuals, so that they know they're not "losing it", but rather going through a kundalini rising imbalance. Even more importantly, research has shown an effective color therapy which can be used as an astral remedy to balance the rising forces.
As I get more cases, and become more confident in my findings, I would be glad to post those findings to the group.
Namaste,
Ron Grimes
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 17:49:44 -0500
From: "Sessions, JoAnn F. (Artco)" <jasessionsATnospamartco.zgate.com>
To: "'Post'" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Continue to be...
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I have enjoyed all your company, and listening to your experiences, but
for a time I am withdrawing off the Kundalini mailing list. I can not
handle the volume of emails at my work. However, I may drop in from time
to time. I would love hearing from any of you any time.
Walk in love and light.
ladychristos (JoAnn)
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 16:33:35 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: AfperryATnospamaol.com
Cc: nancyATnospamwtp.net, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Kundalini & Manic Depressive disorder.
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I would agree with this. When I was 18, I turned my K. off for several
years, then reawakened it.
The story: My K. flared amazing in my teens, I found I could perform
almost every psychic trick I read about, with the exception of telekinesis.
I did not think I could OBE, either, but have since found out I have been
doing so all along, but the experience differed from my expectations.
At 17, I fell madly in love with a fella who didn't like my ESP. I think
it was mostly coz his friends made fun of him for having a girlfriend who
said she was psychic. He did not say so right away.. instead when I asked
for confirmation of my intuitive impressions, he would lie and tell me I
was mistaken. This undermined my faith in the inner voice.. I was an
insecure girl anyways.. I'd spent a lot of time growing being an ostracized
victim.. often happens with awakened children, they don't fit.. herd
instincts reject them as too different... so I stopped trusting and
listening, and it faded.
I stopped doing art, too.. and seemed to lose most of my ability to draw
and paint, at that time.. tho I became a sightly famous hairstylist for my
skill. (Not for my charm.. as a hairstylist I made a pretty good dominatrix..)
The "spiritual winter" outlasted the relationship by several years, and I
came to grieve the loss of the companionship and love of the voice, much
more than the loss of the fella. Awful. Don't go there. You never
appreciate what ya got till it's gone.
I recognize the higher purpose of my experience tho.. since I was born
awakened, I would not know what it is like to be trying to cope with life
as an unawakened adult, other wise.
My opinion is that it is awful, loneliness and uncertainty and bleah dark
cold .... Yoikes. and so I am motivated to grant Shaktipat.
It also forced me to learn social skills which I badly needed to learn
how not to be rejected.
The K. reawakened very slowly, from what I know about awakening and
observe now, it basically started over from scratch. Coming and going at
it's whim, not reliably available as it had been before the winter. As it
is, now.
I still experience the sine wave.. the cycles of life, moon and tides
affect my K. But it is greater and lesser, not on-off. It is never off,
even if I get worried. Increasing it's flow is as easy as thought.
As far as "making use" of K., absolutely.
Healing is the most common use of it, and that can be applied anywhere.
The more it is used in this way, the more it grows and flows.
Some folks speak of becoming "drained" by healing others.. this is not
what it seems. The energy is limitless, and Goddess provides.. even if the
ability of the healer to channel energy is not limitless.
"Where two or more are gathered in My name", even if it is a gathering by
email or remote telepathy, in healing, is a formula which adds limitless
power to the works of a limited healer... unless the healer by their
thoughts puts limits on.. usually we do.
Acts of healing and unconditional love are protected by grace. Love has
a magical formula, the more it is shared the more of it there is. What you
send out comes back multiplied. So why would the experience be draining?
Thoughts of scarcity provide experiences of scarcity. This is a form of
fear/ resistance, and it can be very tiring. If you believe that you can be
drained, you will be. If you believe it is "your" life energy that is being
given out, it will feel much different than if you imagine it is Goddess
flowing thru you.
If you believe that energy you give out is replaced by Goddess
immediately and better, as a reward for your goodness, it will be so. I
believe this is the essence of Karma yoga.
The things that you heal in another, are also healed in yourself. So if
you are sleepy after, it might be coz of the stuff being processed in you,
by the gift of energy that came back.
If you are resistant to doing the healing, if you approach it as a chore
or with an attitude towards the work other than unconditional love, that
resistance will lower your available energy.. and so you may find it
draining, but it is your resistance draining you, not the work.
Likewise, if you believe you need to "take on" an illness or blockage to
heal it, and it sticks around after, you are working from limiting beliefs.
Let the same flow that recharges you, wash the stuff away. Put in a request
with the Angels/unconscious for that process to be on auto pilot.. give up
the limits.
On the other hand, I believe that empathy with the pain of another is a
sign of permission to clear it. Clear it from yourself while in empathy,
and it will often lift from them, too.. coz empathy is unity and there is
only One of Us.
Everything comes of our free will choice to experience duality.. if some
part of you has chosen to feel their pain, it might be to motivate you to
acts of kindness.. if you feel it, it becomes yours, to heal.
Blessings, Mystress.
At 10:56 AM 17/07/98 EDT, AfperryATnospamaol.com wrote:
>
>In a message dated 17/7/98 1:42:10 pm, you wrote:
>
>>How do you feel you can turn k off? I am very interested in your
>>perspective, Chuck (and list).
>
>In my experience, you can't turn K off completely (any more than you can stop
>any other process of evolution) but you can opt to work consciously with
it or
>not. This will accelerate or retard the transformation process; the latter
may
>seem like a turning off, temporarily at least, but in reality is just a delay
>mechanism.
>
>God bless,
>Alan
>
>
>
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 15:59:34 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: MoonDghtrATnospamaol.com
Cc: ChuckOConnellATnospamcompuserve.com, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Kundalini and Manic Depressive Disorder
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Quick on the draw, Judy.. thanks! My mail was down till this morning.
To elaborate..
It's practical purpose is to strengthen your 3rd eye vision.. Dim
light is helpful, not more than a single candle. It is a way to discover
your multidimensionality.
Good fun, as long as scary faces don't spook you.. be prepared to give
love to whatever shows up, as sometimes K uses it as a way to broaden your
ideas about how unconditional your love is. Do it from the grounded
neutrality of the Witness state...
(Which in me, combined with an idea of information coming from stellar
distances up and to the left.. manifests a face of grey alien. I have a
growing theory that the Greys are our future selves, from a "Dr.
Strangelove" reality, come back to shift a dead-end evolutionary path. In
service to the mass consciousness shift. there ya go.. trees and leaves...)
When I first started playing with it, (originally a discovery I made on
my own, and read explanations after..) I kept getting a fella who it turns
out is part of my male Shadow side unconscious.. that is usually the first
to show.. and a scary looking lady with a face half skull part cat, and
snaky hair. I felt better when I discovered it to be the Goddess Hecate,
She of Healing and Hearth.
There is only One of Us and it's All of Us, the whole Jungian
collective, parading in your mirror. Gods and Goddesses, aliens, Faerie,
past life selves, alternate selves, unconscious selves, animal selves, hail
hail the gang's all here... usually they flicker by quite quickly, there
are only glimpses. Other times one will show up steady enough to say hello
to..
Sometimes the rate of them moving thru speeds up until your head glows
blue and turns to smoke, vanishes altogether like the spokes of a wheel
turning. Then reappears again, fortunately... vibrate high enough you
disappear to others, invisible like Faerie. Moving vibrating too fast to be
seen..
I have learned the feel of some of their vibrations, and remembering
it, can call some of the faces up at will, to show them to another.
Wheeeeeee..
BB, M.
At 04:45 PM 17/07/98 EDT, MoonDghtrATnospamaol.com wrote:
>Chuck wrote:
>
><< A Question for Mystress: What is the 'mirror game' and how does one
'play'
> it? >>
>This is when you look *softly* into a mirror (sort of letting your eyes go
out
>of focus yet you still see your reflection). You can see your other selves
>this way.
> ~~~Judy
>
>
>
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 01:07:21 +0100
From: "jb" <janbarenATnospaminfase.es>
To: "K. list" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>,
"valerie" <madammumATnospamptialaska.net>
Subject: RE: town without pity
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Valerie:
> i wonder if anyone has an opinion - do we get our sense of
> 'self-identity' from within, or is it how we are reflected within
> 'community'?
Jan:
One who knows the Self, has solved this forever. It is the ego that needs
assertion of values, identity, from whatever experiences they might come.
One 'in transition' (from ego-life) has to be protected like an upgrowing
plant has to be protected from storms and drought, until strong enough to be
on its own.
Valerie:
if - we just go inside & 'merge with oneness', how do we
> translate that into business relations within a community (NOT anyone
> else in this community who pays ANY attention to their own soul)?
> I'm being thwarted & battered by forces of *ego* & greed around here...
> thanx in advance for any ideas.
Jan:
Be honest, be fair, be reasonable, be uplifting for those who need it
(usually those who 'seem' to be 'unfriendly' or even 'hostile'). All beings
have the desire to be happy and only a few *know* where real happiness comes
from. All the others are deluded and think that happiness results from
'outer' conditions like power, sex, wealth and possessions. With K., one
belongs to the few. Mind has various layers of thought. Only the upper layer
is known to the majority of us. One property of the other layers is that the
outcome of their processes cannot be argued with or fought - it never misses
the target (ego). This is just one reason for being fair, reasonable,
uplifting etc.
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 01:07:28 +0100
From: "jb" <janbarenATnospaminfase.es>
To: "K. list" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>, <nancyATnospamwtp.net>
Subject: RE: Kundalini & Manic Depressive disorder.
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Nancy wrote:
> How do you feel you can turn k off? I am very interested in your
> perspective, Chuck (and list).
Jan:
K. is an autonomous process. It cannot be turned off or slowed down and any
behavior that is attempted to halt or slow down K. will produce intense
karma. This karma will restore the situation that would have been under
cooperation with K., in this life or the next. It will come at a high cost:
agony and tribulation. There is no other alternative than intelligent
cooperation. K. has many properties, one of these being adaptation - to any
situation. A combination of K. and a healthy lifestyle can produce what seem
to be miracles. In several European countries, running is used as an
anti-depressant, as is being exposed to intense light. If this goes for
'normal' people, Kundalites, with their enhanced sensivity, will experience
it even easier.
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 01:10:52 +0100
From: "jb" <hc19436ATnospamautovia.com>
To: "K. list" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>,
"Mulligan, Tim" <TMulliganATnospamCentral.UH.edu>
Subject: RE: My bizarre experiences
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Dear Tim,
There can hardly be any doubt about the connection between your early occult
activities and the events that are disturbing you. In (early) youth, many
are perceiving beings, invisible to grown-ups. Often it will wear off, when
the critical reasoning starts to develop. But in your case this didn't
happen. The main reason for this is that you will believe something very
easily: this is shown by the fact that you wanted to become a Catholic
priest. There are many contradictions in the bible (because Christianity
became a system of belief instead of practice) that obviously didn't make
you question the religious authorities. Your wish to become a priest also
shows an irresistible attraction to the spiritual and as a rule the critical
mind cannot overrule that attraction. I am not familiar with Gurdjieff but
from what you are describing, I do not regret it. Without K., there is no
Self-realization and no liberation. The energy flows you are describing are
some of the many K. phenomena. That it happened after a short practice again
comes to no surprise: silencing the critical mind with ease means
self-surrender. The physical part of the ritual must have triggered your
early occupation with the occult and powered by K., all your mental
creations can manifest themselves. In most cases, all events are taking
place in the astral body (most 'occult work' is done at the astral plane).
The only cure is a (guided) sadhana; everything else only will only delay
and worsen the inevitable confrontation with your self-created astral
entities. Part of this sadhana would be to ignore and/or to be indifferent
to these entities, no matter their activity.
Jan
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