1998/07/11 13:38
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #506
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 506
Today's Topics: Jose [ "Sessions, JoAnn F. (Artco)" ]
Re: Changing the Subject [ Wonderer ] Re: Changing the Subject [ Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com ]
Re: Crown chakra [ MMeyers541ATnospamaol.com ] 2 poems: one-old,one-today [ b bah ]
Unidentified subject! [ "Paul Torres" ] Re: 2 poems: one-old,one-today [ Mystress Angelique Serpent ]
Re: Welcome! [ "Kimberly Nixon" To: "'Post'"
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Jose,
Forgive me I deleted your email and hence your email address. As a
result I will keep my reply brief. Right now my spiritual path is very simple. I simply do what I know to do. I have been able to do that for
a while now, now I am learning to do what I know to do without any expectations. I have only just realized this is one of the lessons I am
currently learning. As far as religion, or any organized methods of spiritual ascention or study, I do not have one. I have a spiritual
master who works with me from the plane he is on. I love him dearly and refer to him verbally as Yeshua. However, I do not believe that
everyone has the same path or same end destination. We are creations of diversity, and all are connected spiritually.
I am looking forward to here from you again. I have an email address
that forwards to me. It is lady_hawkeATnospamlycosmail.com
I would love of hear any experiences you would like to share. I had one that happened to me last night, that perhaps you may be able to shed
some light on. I am not familiar with the physical definitions attached to Kundalini so I can not say whether the world would consider it such
or not. It is different from my other spiritual experiences because it was also very physical. I would like to share it with you sometime in
the future.
walk in light & love.... and continue to be...
Love,
lady c Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 16:46:56 PDT
From: "guy johnson" To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
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please note our new e-mail address:
tantriciskATnospamhotmail.com
our roommates thank you.
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Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 17:10:36 -0700 From: "Jason Payne"
To: "kundalini" Subject: Awakening
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Hi Y'all- I am new to the list, and wish to post my
experiences with the Kundalini. First, some background: I've been diligently practicing the same martial art for almost nine years (Budo
Taijutsu), and still think of myself as a beginner. I think this is a major part of what triggered my awakening.... but who knows. I have been
practacing Reiki for the last four years (have all but my master teacher liscence, and so far mainly practice on myself). I also worked as a prison
guard for some time, so I have little patience for the "there arent any TRULY evil people in the world, theyr'e just misguided" attitude. (I
hope no one takes offense, if you do, bear in mind that you perhaps have not seen what I have seen).
Several years ago, (I dont know when because the kundalini made my memory in that period sort of foggy) I
had a massive amount of what looked like red energy come up through my feet and fill my body. This happened all of the sudden. I could only sleep
for about three or four hours at a time, and didnt need any more anyway... I also didnt need to eat much, but had to drink a lot of water. I was
beginning to have visions and could see peoples aura's. After several weeks of this I began to get sick, and couldnt keep food down, especially
meat. Of course the doctors didnt know what was wrong, and the so-called "psychics" and "witches" and alternative medicine folks I
knew had no idea either... Interestingly, the woman who owns the local spirituality bookstore had never heard of what was happening to me!!
I still cant believe that one! :) Anyway, to make a long and probably familiar story short, I finally met a shaman-priest-sort of guy who
taught me how to at least control my energy flow, although it took about a year for the burning effects to wear off.( I did get actual burn marks on the gate to
my first chakra, Im pretty sure everyone can figure out where that is, ouch!) It was a scary time because I was beginning to "see"
things that weren't human, especially at night, and usually they werent very nice. (I have since been told it is like a moth to new flame! Makes
sense, yes?!) After about three years I finally found a very wise woman who helped counsel me and explain what happened. ( I assume you all know what
happened.) Since then I have been able to work through my first four locks and am now working on my throaght lock, which has so far been the most
difficult and slowest to change. I assume the difficulty of each lock varies for each person?
So I would be glad to take any advice from anyone who has been there, concerning what issues I
must overcome in the fifth lock.... I will also be happy to give any helpful information I can concerning where I have been!
Thanks in advance for any help!
Jpayne
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 19:40:07 -0700 From: Wonderer
To: Chris Hughes CC: Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
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Chris Hughes wrote:
> snip
> Dear Soul Cathy
> I think it is Danjel ( not right spelling ? ) Going to see his and > my Sai Baba The Avater in India that you refer to. if you want to
> hear more about Sai Baba, I have been to his Ashram in Putaparti, E > Mail me and I will oblige.
> Chris > Sai Ram
Dear Chris,
Many thanks for clearing up my confusion. I would welcome any news or
personal experiences you would like to share with us about Sai Baba.
Living in the NY area, one does not get to hear many (any) personal stories about meetings with an Avatar at an Ashram. This is a rare gift
you have so kindly offered.
Cathy Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 22:05:05 EDT
From: Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com To: aird.houseATnospamzetnet.co.uk, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
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In a message dated 7/10/1998 2:36:14 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
aird.houseATnospamzetnet.co.uk writes:
< Dear Soul Harshadeva please forward this to Cathy. I cant access her E mail address
I have read the poetry and the Tantric literature which you have written and found it most helpful.
Sai Ram >>
Harsha: The following article on the Web, based on my own experience and background, may be helpful for those interested in Kundalini awakening and
Self-Realization.
The Spiritual Experience and the Awakening of >Kundalini Shakti in Tantra Yoga
>http://www.telebyte.nl/~frans/kundalini/harsh.html
Here is some Shakti inspired poetry about the Goddess and enlightenment.
http://www.telebyte.nl/~frans/kundalini/poetry.html
God bless everyone with all that is best and with peace and joy. Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 00:37:06 EDT
From: MMeyers541ATnospamaol.com To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
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In a message dated 98-07-10 17:12:06 EDT, you write:
< Hi Liz,
> >I'm glad you brought this up. Years ago, I was astonished to learn
>that other people do NOT see lights in their head. For me, the >intensity of the light increases with deep meditation, and kundalini
>activation. >
LOL! Me too.. I used to watch it to fall asleep as a child, as a game. It was not until someone mentioned the light in theri mind keeping them
awake, on the list that I found out that not everyone has lights in their head.
BB, A.
>>Michele: Yup--every day's the 4th of July!
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 22:14:26 -0700 (PDT) From: b bah
To: K_goddessATnospamonelist.com Cc: fredaATnospamnwlink.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, PeltonPubATnospamaol.com,
keutzerATnospameecs.berkeley.edu, brynne77ATnospamyahoo.com Subject: 2 poems: one-old,one-today
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Dear Mystress Angelique, I woke up
at 5:15 this morn-UGH! Went back to sleep, and was reawakened by a "voice"(non-audible)at 7:35. Am now instantly/totally wide awake,
"hearing" the following words: Time and light,
Light and time...
Stretching thru the microseconds,
Hand and Hand.
whispers, (at this point I was I love you. reaching out to set down paper
and pencil, and was ----------------------------->
We went to told, "Don't put the light house the pencil down for service . "There's
more". ) Beams of light...
pierceing the darkness. The cold and lonely
darkness. Where will
it end...? The shadows know... The shadows know,
but they won't tell.
My heart chakra was wide open while hearing-writing this. 'would appreciate opinions. don't know who i was taking dictation from. Have
any of you read in history books about religious services being given in; a light- house? or a Light House? Do any religions past or
present call their place of worship a light house. i can think of only two usages: 1. the nautical Lighthouse. 2. "The Lighthouse for the
Blind" in Oakland Ca. At least used to be in Oakland. It was and/ or is a workshop for the visually challenged, clients made handicrafts,
mostly utilitarian. The second poem, "came to me", at a K-yoga seminar
at Mt. Madonna Center, a yoga center in the Diablo Mountain Range, near Monterey. A wondrous setting with redwoods, oaks, meadows, and
deer who browsed at edge of my 6 am yoga class. MAGICAL!!
MT. Madonna Center
M.C.C. The land,
The trees, The sky...
One man's dream, Realized.
( Still struggling/learning ) STAY HAPPY, barb
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From: "Paul Torres" To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
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Does anyone know of an awakened person between Philadelphia and New York City? I think that I need someone to speak with. The list is
beautiful, but there is much lacking that I can only get with one on one conversation. If anyone knows of someone who has traversed the path at
least partway, it would be greatly appreciated if someone could inform me how to get in touch with this person, in person.
Thank you for your time, Paul Torres
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From: Valerie Cooper To: Ed Arrons
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com Subject: Re: Pretense
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Ed Arrons wrote: >
> Thankfully, the symptoms in this moment of separation, this > pseudo "now", can be recognized: the mind in linear mode,
> typing letters and words in sequence; the possibility of endless > discussion in concepts metaphorically parallel to various truths
> that prevent the actual experience; the wanting of recognition > and assurance of being 'wise' or humorous; the possibility of
> drifting from subject to subject without a sense of completeness; > the temptation to indulge in pretentious spirituality, humility, and
> self-awareness.....Oops! :-)
*oops* is right... you call your own shots, Jackson!
be REAL or be a fraud, look inside - be a god[ess]!
linear mode sets *ego* plug-ins, r U suspicious of motives?
psychoanalyze & "be somebody", breathe deep - be everybody!
don't be fooled by imposters; Be the real thang!
gotta not wanna care what they think or what happens, just BE!
nobody can hurt anyone but with permission - even ourselves! vc
Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 01:21:41 -0800 From: valerie
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freda wrote:
> > I just got home from the emergency room my face is unrecognizable at
> the moment, they say when the swelling goes down it'll be okay,, few > days at most.. then I'll get the pleasure of visiting a dentist, goody!!
> As a bonus,,, I have had the hic-ups for more than 4 hours now,,, I > don't know if it is a reaction to the fear,,,, or to the stuff they
> injected into my bloodstream,,,, both have a tendency to give me > hic-ups.
Dear Freda (and all), Ooooooh - this is maddening-talk!
That woman hit you because she is in *feral/animal mode*, & she sensed a "victim consciousness" in you that she could attack to make
herself feel a little tiny bit better for a few minutes... I HATE IT when that happens!!!
She's off now to find more ways to release the subliminally-buried frustrations of her illness, & probably already forgot that she has
caused you damage! A new medication on top of whatever she drinks to most effectively kill off her brain cells, will do her nicely!
But - what about you??? That should NEVER ever happen to you again!
Apparently, you are also an empath & - but have too low a regard for yourself, or else you would have had the "big city shields" up against
such low life attacks! (I beg your pardon, I am not a "snob", but have experience shielding
myself against such experiences). First of all, get some mace. You can get it at many pawn shops down
there 'over the counter', or else order it from the Net. Just having the option of macing the next person who might misunderstand your "good
intentions" in your hand will give you the strength to put up a shield to repel that level of consciousness.
Tacoma is NOT a "nice" city, you need some mace. It's not illegal, or even unethical in this case! It's not a gun - you won't kill anyone,
just disable them long enough to apply any martial arts you can manage to glean...
But - psychic shields are best; watch your posture - stand assertively with self-respect as you walk down the street, be your OWN
"best friend". Do not even let the possibility that this scenario could happen into your personal atmosphere...
Keep one finger on the mace. Out on the street, surround yourself with *light*, & pray ceaselessly
- only allow the GOD(ess) energies to enter your chosen protective shield.
Smile all you want - the next street person coming at you with a baseball bat - goudge their eyes out with your umbrella, or fingernails,
or whatever you can grab. There's no excuse for being victimized, but YOU have to "set the
stage". And - each our lives - these are our own personal stages to set. It is fully within your power to NOT allow this to happen ever again!
love & etc., vc
ps () Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 03:34:41 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent To: b bah
Cc: K_goddessATnospamonelist.com, fredaATnospamnwlink.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, PeltonPubATnospamaol.com, keutzerATnospameecs.berkeley.edu, brynne77ATnospamyahoo.com
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At 10:14 PM 10/07/98 -0700, b bah wrote: >
> >Dear Mystress Angelique,
>Have >any of you read in history books about religious services being given
>in; a light- house? or a Light House? Do any religions past or >present call their place of worship a light house. i can think of only
>two usages: 1. the nautical Lighthouse. 2. "The Lighthouse for the >Blind" in Oakland Ca.
The Lighthouse of the Kundalini List.
(insert twilight zone music)
There is a place in another dimension, where on a coastline of uncertainty there stands a shining lighthouse made of threads of light.
It's frequency is specific, it's light is only spotted by a few travellers whose intent gives them eyes to see it, altho they may perceive it in a
different form.. as a website, or a bit of forwarded e-mail.. whatever synchronicity provides.
The call of it's foghorn is the Eternal Om, made of all of our voices and tuned to the pulsing of the planet's heart.
It is a beacon to guide those who are spontaneously awakened, lost in ignorance of their condition and afeared of madness to a safe harbour, to
call home.
I spun it into form, by inspiration of Goddess and a lot of unconscious help from listmembers, plus assistance from innumerable un-named discarnate
entities, in service to the Light. It came thru me, but it is of many.. and I don't know all of it's workings.. I did not ask for any names, and
all who participated added their own best inspirations.. more than my mind could hold.. and I left it to the Angels to pull it all together in the
highest good of all. I reached out thru time and space to the higher selves of every person
who has been or will be or ever could be involved with the list, to get their agreement to participate in the project. (some refused, I felt the
departure) It is made of some of the love, community and caring that is shared in conversation on this list.
In particular, some of the leftover shaktizap that used to mess up the list computer periodically is drawn off to feed it, but it is a creation
that evolves pretty independently of me.. it has it's own grounding cord. Goddess has it handled.
It is the energy representation of our cyberspace home, here.. this community family tribe clan that we call Kundalites.
I cannot say exactly when I did the spell.. it was an idea that floated around in my head for a long time, and came partly of observing the
connections being made already... when inspiration was ripe, I went into a nice trance and started gathering light..
I did not tell anyone about the lighthouse for quite a while, only observed it's effects and watched it growing... watching the increase of
synchronistically led new members. It is set to call to those who need information and reassurance, awakened
ones in need of community, not awakened ones seeking awakening, and those wise and foolish who contribute their experience.. not to disturb the
placid, but to advertise to those already seeking what the list space offers. That was my intention, kept simple among the ideas of the crew..
When I did mention it to the list, many months later, I watched the numbers of new list members joining surge again, as the conscious awareness
of members fed it by their attention.. positive or negative.. it transforms it all to light and grows brighter, bigger and more beautiful. It gives me
great peace to look at the brilliant tower of spiralling crystal threads of light, and the beacon on top spiralling like a chakra..
Last night, pondering my failure to dislodge the blockage we were working on and wondering what else to try, it occurred to me to call on the
Lighthouse.. the list collective to shine it's light and "love bomb" you with some of the enormous healing energy it represents... and calling for
volunteers to help on your behalf from among those at work on that project, who felt inclined to intervene. (shrug) I never ask for names..
I don't think I've ever thought to do that before.. thankyou for the excellent confirmation.
Here is your lighthouse, temple, place of worship. Right here. It's Us. Kundalight house.
Blessings, Mystress.
Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 07:13:57 -0700 From: freda
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com Subject: some healing
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Hi Folks, Just a follow-up on Liz-Beth...
I wasn't too sure how I would handle going back this morning to work in
Liz-Beths neighborhood, so I went there first thing to get it out of the way...
Sure enough she was there! It is her home after all, I saw her when I first got out of my car, tucked behind a readerboard. I pushed back the
fear and stiffened my body, determined to be brave... or at least get out alive, unharmed. It is about a 20 minute walk to do that area it
occured to me I might be safer if I drove it instead of walking but I reasoned it out that I wasnt gonna be afraid to walk there, its a quiet
pretty walk which I really enjoy so I didnt give in to that.... Liz-Beth followed sneaking and hiding and I was careful to know where she was,
about half way through I started to get uneasy, not for myself, for HER. That neighborhood, those streets, are her home. I thought how when *I*
go home, I feel safe. I didn't like that she was uneasy about me, clearly she brought it on herself, but I am gonna heal... I did not want
Liz-Beth wondering every day if I was gonna retaliate against her, I did not want to be a part of her being afraid in her *home* She was
obviously not going to come any closer to me this day, she was just watching me,,, not threatening me in any way.
When I got back to my car, she was already hidding behind the readerboard again, I put my stuff in the car and turned to face her (she
was about a 1/2 block from me,,, I could't smile at her, what with my face all swollen, so I flashed her a *peace* sign. and waited a moment.
Liz-Beth came out from behind the reader board,,, I think she giggled, she sent me back a peace sign,,, and stood taller.
It felt real good to let that go. For both of us I think. It's gonna be okay.
I'm safe at home now,,, and I hope Liz-Beth feels a little safer this morning as well.
sendin' ya all a rainbow...
thanks for your support freda
Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 09:01:04 PDT From: "Kimberly Nixon"
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com Subject: Re: Welcome!
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>Sorry to hear about your car; glad you weren't seriously hurt. Hope
your >boyfriend can move down to Florida soon.
> >How did you learn of kundalini and/or what brought you to this list?
>
Hi Jim and list buddies,
I heard about this list when I was on the massage/bodywork list a year ago a member sent out a ton of sources of many different lists and this
one caught my attention and I wanted to know more. Oh and boyfriend is moving from Florida to Louisiana, hopefully very soon.
Thanks for the warm welcome :-)
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From: onarresATnospaminreach.com To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
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Someone recently asked me for the explanation of re-birthing oneself... I haven't a clue on how to approach this subject and give an answer that
sounds intelligent... so I now pose the question to the experts of the K list - any takers out there?
Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 16:10:07 EDT From: MoonrisempATnospamaol.com
To: happyhunaATnospamyahoo.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com Subject: Re: 2 poems: one-old,one-today
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Barb,
I have been off the list for vacation and just returned and saw this. The Lighthouse has become very popular and there is a Spiritual Lighthouse church
here in Jacksonville FL. The lighthouse is used as a beacon in the darkness to help steer ships off shoals and other dangers in the waters that they cannot
see.
The Lighthouse also stands alone and others come to it. i think of it as a Light unto the world. Hope this helps.
Barbara
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