1998/06/22 19:28
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #470
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 470
Today's Topics:
Re: Dark Places and Cycles [ "Jose Arroyo" <jm_arroyoATnospamhotmail.co ]
Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource [ Rnegade34ATnospamaol.com ]
Re: Anybody have experience with Raj [ "Lobster" <lobsterATnospamdial.pipex.com> ]
THE SOUL'S JOURNEY [ "Lawrence Edwards, Ph.D." <ledwards ]
Re: Does anybody have experience wit [ "Lobster" <lobsterATnospamdial.pipex.com> ]
Past Lives and Unfinished Karma [ "Wonderer" <mrtn74aATnospamprodigy.com> ]
4's and weather [ jason spencer <starjunkyATnospamuswest.net ]
Re: Father's Day Kundalini Care Pack [ Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic ]
Re: Dreams, visions and symbols [ "Lobster" <lobsterATnospamdial.pipex.com> ]
AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Cen [ Jacqueline Worrall <jacukATnospamaol.com> ]
Aimee's e-mail [ PShaw86324ATnospamaol.com ]
Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource [ "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon. ]
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 04:04:25 PDT
From: "Jose Arroyo" <jm_arroyoATnospamhotmail.com>
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Dear Holly and Cathy,
How true!
For how would one (like to) change if unaware of some negativity?
One may use negativity (unconciously) to keep on swimming and drowning
in it.
One may also use it as a booster to, from the event experienced, take
another turn in life.
It is matter of choice... FREE WILL.
How beautiful it is to sense negativity for this makes it possible to
choose (more) consciously for something else; more positivity, light...
LOVE.
In time, negativity is going to be experienced more and more as
something positively :-)
Love and Joy,
Jose
>Your perspective is also helpful. Thank you. Perhaps, realizing and
>admitting (via meditation) that one is in darkness helps precipitate a
>return to the light. This could be one way to "use the negativity".
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Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 07:11:52 EDT
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In a message dated 98-06-21 23:22:27 EDT, Jude1ATnospamwebtv.net writes:
<< Haven't had any problems with my colon since. God Bless Him! I am much
more in tune with my body now. >>
Dear Judy,
This is a statement that I commonly here with my patients who have been coming
in for a while, they are much more in touch with their bodies. That is
because the Adjustment removes blockages from within our nervous system,
thereby allowing our bodies to communicate with the brain much more clearly,
thus heightening our awareness of ourselves.
I actually let my patients know that I am not their Healer but rather a
fascilitator for healing and that healing occurs from the Inside Out. We have
spent years being conditioned by the pharmacuetical industry that healing
comes from the Outside In <drugs>, and now it's time we take back Our power.
I am not Anti-medical rather Pro- informed consent. Let's educate people
about what that little pill or vaccine can do before we take it or give it to
or our kids and make them drug addicts.
BTW, if you need to find a new Chiropractor, let me know, I may be able to
help. I lecture extensively to our profession throughout the country.
LovePassion
Mark
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 09:34:42 +0100
From: "Lobster" <lobsterATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: "Chuck O'Connell" <ChuckOConnellATnospamcompuserve.com>,
"Samuel Abebe" <sabebeATnospamrtinews.com>,
"k-list" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: Anybody have experience with Raja-Yoga?
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Chuck:
Thanks very much for the advice. Alas, each answer begets another
question!
It is becoming apparent to me that meditation can somehow regulate the
effects of K. It seems like spontaneous K without other guiding factors
leads to mental/emotional discomfort.
This make me think that the 'three pronged' method Samuel and Lobster talk
about above is just the balm to sooth these wounds. Then I wonder what
constitutes 'practiced properly'? Perhaps you could 'enlighten' me (Ha!).
Lobster:
People quite often develop their own coping strategies. There are however
many systems already in existence, refined and developed, that remove some
of the 'spikes' or peak experiences. If you feel that the highs are just
ever higher - OK. If you feel the need for balance then you need to look at
yoga, tai chi, meditation etc.
Chuck:
Meditation - When meditating I can suppress my thoughts for a while (I'm
not sure how long, I lose track of time) then a thought pops up. After a
short while I realize that it is there (and I don't want it). I make it go
away and try to stay blank again. Sure enough another pops up and I go
through this cycle again. Am I supposed to examine the thoughts that
come up or let them run their course and die on their own. Should I try
to keep the mind blank? Patanjali states in II 11'By meditation their
gross modifications are to be rejected'. Vivekananda interprets this as
subduing the mind waves until keeping them subdued is automatic (even while
not meditating) 'thus anger and hatred are controlled and checked'. Am
I doing the right thing? The question is' what is the goal of meditation'
- self examination or mind suppression or both? Should their be an object
of meditation (something to focus on) or focus on the empty mind? Perhaps
strengthening concentration is the only goal here... What are the objects
of concentration/meditation at each of the steps along the way (in simple
terms...) I wish that I really knew how this magic works. It would clear
some 'blocking' doubts.
Lobster:
You are not trying to achieve a blank mind but an attentive mind. A mind
empty of fullness or full of emptiness. Does this make more sense? You are
trying to be aware of the presence of Mind and empty of the 'mind chatter'
that is not the real You. If thoughts arise, bring the attention to the
point of arising but let the thought go. You are not trying to 'suppress
thoughts', rather you are trying to see their cause, their source. in the
place of the source (the 'void', emptiness, I AM, God) there is a great
peace . . .
Chuck:
"The relaxed body through physical expression and body healing" - OK, I've
long had the relaxation part down, but what do you mean by 'physical
expression and body healing'? By 'physical expression' are you refering
to very relaxed body language and general relaxed state? This would go
along with keeping the mind calm... What about 'body healing'? Is this
physically (through earthly means) or by 'projecting health, love and
healing' to you own and others bodies?
Lobster:
All of the above.
Chuck:
As for 'grateful emotion' - is this 'thankful for all lessons and just to
be here' - a positive, thankful frame of mind?
I know that doing things properly always helps achieve the desired goal
sooner and more smoothly. I also know that 'all roads lead to Rome'
(eventually). I just want to get on the road with the shortest travel, If
not with a map in hand, at least with some suggestions from people who are
walking - I'm still crawling, I want to walk too!
Lobster:
One of the greatest lessons for me was time . . . The longest route is the
shortest distance. Meditation and your learning will take the rest of your
life and *you may fail*. Are you still prepared to go on . . . :-)
Take your time. Relax. Enjoy the journey. Go meditate up a tree or take a
holiday/retreat. Make friends. Enjoy life. Know there is always more . . .
Chuck:
Thanks in advance for what I know will be thoughtful replies!
By the way Lobster, your web pages are great!
And thanks to all for taking the time!
Lobster:
Many thanks Chuck.
Lobster's great web pages start at:
http://ds.dial.pipex.com/town/park/gcn23/
Be Well, Be Happy, Be Gentle (start with yourself)
Lobster
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 11:39:06 -0400
From: "Lawrence Edwards, Ph.D." <ledwardsATnospambestweb.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: THE SOUL'S JOURNEY
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Hi,
Thanks again to all those who wrote asking for more information on my
book. Here are some of the reviews it has received:
REVIEWS FOR
THE SOUL´S JOURNEY: GUIDANCE FROM THE GODDESS WITHIN
BY LAWRENCE EDWARDS, PH.D.
Just a few months before her recent death, the world-renowned Jungian,
Marie-Louise von Franz wrote: "The meeting of Active Imagination and
Yoga was long due and you deal with it honestly. [Your book] is so much
on the razor´s edge between healing and destruction. ....With all my
best wishes and heartiest thanks, M-L von Franz."
Dr. Marion Woodman, the highly regarded Jungian analyst, author of
numerous works and co-author of DANCING IN THE FLAMES: THE DARK GODDESS
IN THE TRANSFORMATION OF CONSCIOUSNESS, wrote: "I... find your
descriptions of your experiences fascinating. I really feel that
blackness - radiant blackness [of Kali] - you describe. Also your
descriptions and explanations and in-depth experiences of the chakras
are excellent. Many thanks for sharing this with me. I know it can be
of value to many who are working so hard to bring East and West, body
and mind together." Dr. Woodman went on to say, "I have no criticism to
offer, Lawrence. I think your organization and your actual writing
style are most satisfying to the reader. You bring your Self to it,
that is what matters most."
Joseph Chilton Pearce, noted author and lecturer whose books include
THE MAGICAL CHILD, THE MAGICAL CHILD MATURES and EVOLUTION´S END, wrote:
"Your manuscript is loaded with gems... You have a treasure chest of
experience - so rich a story.... You are the first person I have ever
read, or heard from, who has experienced Her physically manifesting and
entering us cell by cell - an experience I had in my early forties,
which near destroyed me, so powerful it was, and so pallid everything
afterward. Took rather a relearning to deal with life again, and find
around me in the world what was given in that overwhelming other-worldly
and unspeakable event. So I am partial to your goddess... You have a
magnificent and great story to tell. The only one worth telling - the
only game in town."
Kathi Kemper, M.D., M.P.H., author of THE HOLISTIC PEDIATRICIAN
recently featured in One Spirit book club, wrote: "Thank you so much
for the privilege of reading your book. I really like all the stories
the best... My favorite story was the one in which you were preparing
dinner for your colleagues as if you were preparing to serve God. That
story just really resonated for me. I have not had the same mystical
visions you've had, but I believe them because I've had small tastes of
them. I'm sure the people at your dinner table were fed and blessed by
your vision of them... My overall impression of your book is that I
found it very uplifting and it made me want to spend a few hours talking
with you and sharing stories and talking about how we are applying all
these visions in our daily life. ... I am grateful to you for sharing
these stories of your journey, and I look forward to more sharing along
the way..."
Dr. José Stevens, author of TAMING YOUR DRAGONS, SECRETS OF SHAMANISM
and several other books said he thought it was an excellent work on the
Kundalini and the spiritual journey. He also said he thinks it will
contribute to healing the masculine principle in men and in society.
Marvin Berman, Ph.D. - President of Quiet Mind Systems, Inc. and a
certified Bioenergetics Therapist trained by Alexander Lowen, M.D.,
wrote:
"Everyone should read this book:
• This book offers a readily understandable way to translate my internal
experiences in meditation into concepts that can guide my daily
activities and interactions with other people.
• This book provides an order or path which I can follow in the
exploration of my own spiritual development.
• The book provides the reader with a method for the use of personal
imagery and myth in deepening insight in support of personal growth.
• Understanding the Kundalini as a guiding principle for spiritual
evolution is presented from an integrated perspective including Eastern
and Western mysticism and Transpersonal Psychology.
• The stories can be readily shared with children in support of their
own inner development beginning with the acceptance of their spiritual
experiences as valuable and meaningful.
Orders for the book can be sent to:
Lawrence Edwards, Ph.D.
211 King Street
Chappaqua, NY 10514 USA
The cost is $17.95 plus shipping, $3.75 with in the US and $7.00 outside
the US. Payment can be made with a check or money order or bank draft
in US dollars made out to Lawrence Edwards, Ph.D.
I look forward to hearing more from you all. Thanks again for your warm
welcome.
In Her Service,
Lawrence
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 12:38:01 +0100
From: "Lobster" <lobsterATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: "Hajeed" <habATnospamtelekom.com.my>, <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Does anybody have experience with LAMA-Yoga?
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>Hi There!
>
>Just joined this list.
>Does anybody have experience with Lhama YOGA?
I once tried to teach a dog Arabic if that is any help? Why would anyone
wish to inflict yoga on these gentle Peruvian cameloids?
There is a book on Llama yoga - to be hoest it is no different to Hatha Yoga
with Tibetan names.
>Long time ago, I knew a little intro of Lhama YOGA taught
>by ASTARA School of Psychic, California. The objective of
>this yogic exercises is to wake up the KUNDALINI source
>located at the base chakra (tail bone). The meditation uses
>visualization method (if I'm not mistaken) to bring up the
>KUNDALINI. So does anybody out there have experience on this?
The tail bone (so I was on the right track . . .) Your best bet for this
kind of thing is a passing Llama. However if you want to send snakes and
lights up and down I am sure someone will oblige . . .
Not me though
Lobster
Be Well, Be Kind, Stop talking rubbish
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 13:43:48 -0400
From: "Wonderer" <mrtn74aATnospamprodigy.com>
To: "kl List" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>,
"Dhyani \"Debbie\"" <debhATnospammindspring.com>
Subject: Past Lives and Unfinished Karma
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Debbie,
Your multi-life involvement with this man caught my attention. You
have also asked if anyone has information on twin souls. I do not
know if you have a twin soul. But, you and I have had similar
experiences. My ex-husband was also my husband in a past life, and
he also murdered me in that life. (Part of a long story described in
an earlier post.) I remember him from one previous life also. I
have long felt that we have unfinished karma between us which keeps
drawing us together. The physical and emotional pull is intense, but
the results, one ruined life and premature death, and another life's
youth lost in misery and disillusioned by deceit, have been
disastrous.
On the inner plane, we have had interactive dreams, astral visits,
and still communicate sometimes. Lately, I sense he is suffering
from severe mental problems. I know I need to work out whatever it
is that pulls us together, so it can end. Perhaps you also need to
get this man out of your system, or vice-versa.
Another similarity is your "twin soul's" great sense of foreboding
where you are concerned. My initial reaction to my ex husband was a
vague sense of danger; I went out of my way to avoid him. He spent
the next two years pursuing me and playing underhanded tricks to
break up my other relationships (I later found out) just to get a
first date. To me, my x-x husband is one of the reasons I keep
reincarnating, and one of the passions I need to play out of my
system. The desire is a trap. Beware.
Like you, I also thought about tracking down my past life, using the
internet. I remembered incredible grounds where I lived before my
marriage. I also knew this was somewhere in Germany. I searched the
words garden and Germany and came up with thumbnail photos of ruins
in Bavaria. When I enlarged the thumbnail of the Linderhoff ruin I
gasped. It was the place I already remembered. I want to get
pictures (if they exist) of the Linder family to see if I can
recognize them. I remember the faces of some of my relatives
vividly, especially my grandmother.
Good luck.
Cathy
*************
Dhyani/Debbie wrote:
>I had a fascinating dream in August '96 which I know was not a dream
but a
>past life memory coming through. I woke from this dream in a cold
sweat
>and it has haunted me ever since.
>
>I dreamt that the man who triggered my Kundalini experience (I
believe he
>might be my twin soul) was dressed as a Roman soldier. He was
kneeling
>down in front of my body because he was crucifying me. I could read
his
>thoughts in the dream. He was justifying his actions. He thought
to
>himself: "She is the king's daughter and she is being killed
because she
>converted to Judaism. She is crazy". Then he wanted to stop me
from
>screaming so he smothered me with something. Next, he took a
grayish flag
>made out of metal and hammered it into the top of the cross. The
flag had
>a Hebrew letter on it. I woke up as I was staring at the letter and
I
>cannot recall what it was.
>
>I have a strong desire to research this dream by searching the bible
on the
>Internet for the key words: "king", "daughter", "crucify or
crucifixtion"
>and "Judaism". But I have been actually afraid I might find out
which
>king's daughter I was. I know this was more than a dream.
>
>In fact, when I met this man just prior to my "K" awakening, I had
numerous
>experiences of feeling quite disoriented and physically unbalanced
around
>him. I fell down half a flight of stairs while walking in back of
him
>once. And I have had a strong desire to say to him: "Please don't
hurt
>me" even though I do not feel threatened by him in this life. I
also have
>had strong desires to stab myself in the hands with sharp objects in
his
>presence. Now when I look at all these things together it becomes
clear
>that he probably did crucify me once.
>
>Does anyone know anything about twin souls. I am especially
interested in
>how they affect each other positive and negatively. This man and I
>actually look alike and have other strange similarities. I believe
he did
>trigger my "K" experience or at least we went through some type of
OOB
>experience together.
>
>Dhyani (Little Deer) "Debbie"
>
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 12:35:55 -0600
From: jason spencer <starjunkyATnospamuswest.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: 4's and weather
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Hello list,
I was wondering if anyone has had experiences with the number 4 . It
is almost without fail that when I look at a clock it has a 4 in it
(2:24 4:44 12:40 so on forever).
This has been driving me crazy since 1992. If anyone has any response
Id be very happy to hear it. Some of the things I've thought it is
are- God talking to me telling me Im on the right path , The 144,000
that are raised, from the bible, My heigherself. I've had way to long
thinking about it.
I am also wondering if anyone else has had experiences with the
weather. I swear that I have made lightning strike and also been in
communication with someone else through the lightning. I have also
experienced the lightning being synchronized with pink floyd on cassette
and also been synchronized with songs on the radio.
I have also been telepathically in communication with some kind of
energy source over radio waves I don't know who it is only that it is
real.
Im totally able to pick up my friends my ears will start ringing each
person has their own pitch.
gona run
peace,
Aimee
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 16:01:48 -0500
From: Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic.net>
To: "j percyval" <percyval2ATnospamhotmail.com>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Father's Day Kundalini Care Package: Links
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Hi John!
Your K-site list is terrific! Thanks!
One little thing...
> http://www.luckymojo.com/sacredsex.html
>a place where you can read about tantra yoga, karezza,
>and other forms of sex worship...
This sounds like you're saying tantra yoga is a form of sex worship, and of
course it isn't. Most of tantra has nothing to do with physical sex. Even
sexual tantra, in its pure form, isn't sex worship.
How have you been?
Love,
Ann
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 19:32:35 +0100
From: "Lobster" <lobsterATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: "Kundalini - L" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>, <ledwardsATnospambestweb.net>
Subject: Re: Dreams, visions and symbols
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>Hi Lobster (?),
>
>In the Shiva Sutras it says: Chittam mantraha. It means the essential
>nature of the mind is mantra, a throb of the Divine. Your mind is no
>more and no less divine than all others.
Hi Lawrence (!),
In the Lobster Sutras it says: Nothing. It means there is essentially no
mind - more or less . . .
>You seem to have the mistaken notion that I've spent time developing a
>spiritual CV. I haven't. I've devoted many years to sadhana, to the
>practices of meditation, contemplation, puja and seva. Along the way
>people and institutions have given me honors, degrees, etc. as I've
>continued my one-pointed pursuit of knowing and serving the divine. I
You funny thing. If you had not not done years of devotion, contemplating
the void and so on who would have honoured you? Goddess? If it was not you
who did these things, it must have been the throbbing divine . . .
>suspect I know only one thing, and that is the purpose of my life: to
>know and to serve the Divine. I think they both happen best in
>silence. However, since the mind has the nature of thinking it is best
>if we give it something worthwhile to think about, and so we talk,
>write, sing, chant, and dance the mysteries, the wonders, the ecstacies,
>the terrors, the numinosity and the darkness of the Divine.
>
>Warm regards
>Lawrence
Many thanks for your regards and words. However the question I may have
asked seems implied but not talked about - what have you learnt?
Here is what I have learnt:
The Divine is served through the mundane.
Silence only serves the silent unless one has learnt to 'talk'.
. . . and as someone is insisting on singing at this moment . . .
'Wise men say only fools rush in but I can't help falling in love with You
shall I stay
would it be a sin
if I can't help falling in Love with You
Like a river flows to the sea
so . . .
Be Well
Lobster
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 13:06:01 -1000 (HST)
From: Jacqueline Worrall <jacukATnospamaol.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
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help! I think I'm going mad
I was involved in a very bad road accident on 6th March 98 with my husband also. I have had very strange experiences in the hospital and had a very nice spiritual lady who also was a head nurse there give me healing and councelling and listened to what I was experiencing and then gave me a book called Kundalini and the chakras by Genevieve Lewis Paulson, I thought the book had been written for me it was so accurate in what it described I was going through, I felt as though someone had switched a light on in my head and everything was so clear, I could see so much more and understand so much more, I felt as though a violet light was exploding from the top of my head. Since I have come home from hospital there has been nothing, as though someone has switched the light off again, although when I ask questions in my head I do somehow get the answers from no where,. I had so much time in the hospital but now i am at home and so is my husband, I cannot get 5 seconds to myself, no on!
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e will leave me alone, even for a minuite. I feel I would like to ring the lady in hospital who helped me so much but i don't know what to say. Did I imagine it all, was I going nuts?
Jacqui
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 21:45:49 EDT
From: PShaw86324ATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Aimee's e-mail
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Hi.
I don't have a thing for 4's, just 3's. I've heard there are certain people
who can "change the weather", so maybe you're one of them. I'm almost been
struck by lightning 3 times, but each time my intuition saved me.
Liz
Date: 23 Jun 98 02:42:24 +0000
From: "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
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> help! I think I'm going mad
Hello Jacqueline,
You remind me of me. Right at the start of the kundalini thing, in my
case, there was suddenly a great deal of activity. If you like, it was
the course-grade of sandpaper rather than the fine-grade. Big,
seemingly major things happened, but in the sense that they were very
general. The violet light exploding is the colour of the crown chakra
and I presume this means a waking up of kundalini for you. When mine
woke up it started in the crown. It was also at a time when a lot of
things were becoming very clear.
The strange thing is though, that if you make some room in yourself by
finding some clarity, and there is still some junk to be sorted
through, the junk sort of gets shifted into the light so that it can
be seen and sorted out. So the act of becoming saner can at times feel
like you're going bonkers. You make it sound as though you are at the
start of your spiritual experiences. It does not surprise me that
there was a dramatic situation, ie the crash, in order to get the ball
rolling. It often starts with accidents or things that were not
planned, as this is like being touched by the unknown. The unknown,
the devine, touches you as you are, and you experience it as you are
at the time. So let's say you have some goo in yourself. That goo
would pretty much dictate how things would be formed and appear for
you when being touched by the unknown. In your case the unknown came
at you and there was some quite important unpleasantness involved.
Maybe I am saying that you deserved it. I don't mean to sound
maliceful or anything, I just feel that such a thing is possible. When
kundalini started up for me, along with a sudden massive delving into
all sorts of `spiritual' and mystical things, a lot of things did go
down hill. I admit that I genuinely DID question my sanity a few
times. Not just wondering it, or thinking about it, but /actually/
sitting down and being open to the possibility. Such things are
necessary, to let a blockage become unblocked. It's like opening a
door. Apparently the final door is in hell, beyond which is heaven.
But that does not mean things are pessimistic. On the contrary, many
wonderful things await. And being on the k list you will find plenty
of support if you want to ask about any of those wierd things such as
chakras and so on.
Most importantly, there is something to bear in mind, and this is
something that has been reinforced for me since being on this list.
Always, things are coming into consciousness. You shine an
increasingly bright light on everything. This reveals some nasty mess.
it is not that the nasty mess is being /created/, it is that you are
becoming aware of it, as you perhaps were not aware it was there
before. It can, at times, get you down, when so much mess is appearing
around you, and you might think things are getting to be a nightmare,
but, for some strange reason, just beyond the illumination of all the
horror there does /not/ seem to be a sudden and permanent end. Things
go on, there is rebirth, the door is opened and you go through, and
things are blissful then. You may think you are going mad. Maybe you
should think of it as that you are shining more and more light onto an
already existing madness. That you weren't aware it was there before
makes you feel like it's being created - that you're going mad. You're
going /through/ madness. That means you are actually aiming to emerge
out of the other side. It is merely /scenery/. Have hope. People love
you. When you think you might be crashing against the rocks, remember
that you are only passing by, on your way to dry land.
Being here for you,
--
Paul.
IRC: #amiga, Dalnet: #blitz
WWW: http://www.stationone.demon.co.uk
E-M: paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk
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