1998/06/16 15:19
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #460
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 460
Today's Topics:
Flowering. [ "Biharilal Shah" <kunastroATnospamhotmail. ]
Re: Simply Different or Greater/Less [ Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com ]
Re: Sleepy [ Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iis ]
body sleeping [ "Walls" <MURPHY18ATnospamprodigy.net> ]
a question [ "b bah" <happyhunaATnospamhotmail.com> ]
question typo [ "b bah" <happyhunaATnospamhotmail.com> ]
Seeing yourself [ "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon. ]
hello, and something that happened [ antares <antaresATnospamneuron.net> ]
Kundalini Awake [ David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net> ]
Re: The Void [ amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us ]
Re: Why would anyone... [ amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us ]
Great Balls O' Fire [ amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us ]
Re: The Fractal *I* & DNA & Astral P [ sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net (Jack) ]
Most powerful living Kundalini GURU? [ sruddATnospambible.ca ]
Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource [ "Marsha & Stephen" <kandulATnospamg-net.ne ]
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 05:56:57 PDT
From: "Biharilal Shah" <kunastroATnospamhotmail.com>
To: iamATnospamonelist.com, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Flowering.
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Krishnamurti,quotes : "There is completion only in flowering and dying"
The completion will be only in germinating, flowering and dying- The
Eternal Trinity. Just as:
GOD:- Generater- Operater-Destroyer.,,Brahma-Vishnu-Mahesh,
This is a natural sequence in the whole Universe and also applies to
Universe itself.
Biharilal.
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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 10:10:26 EDT
From: Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com
To: DruoutATnospamaol.com, thyerATnospamfreenet.grfn.org, AfperryATnospamaol.com,
Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Simply Different or Greater/Lesser
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In a message dated 6/15/1998 10:55:18 AM Pacific Daylight Time, DruoutATnospamaol.com
writes:
<< Here's a quote from Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi (p. 512) >>
Hillary, there is another book you and others who are interested in Ramana's
teaching may find useful. It is called "Be As You Are - The Teachings of Sri
Ramana Maharshi," edited by David Godman. The conversations given in this
book come from a variety of sources. The book is extremely well organized in
different sections and touches on every aspect of spirituality including
Kundalini, yoga, meditation, Samadhis, the nature of psychic and spiritual
experiences, the direct path of Self-Enquiry, etc. Of course, the book you
quoted from is a great favorite of mine. Best wishes.....
Harsha
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 19:44:29 +0530 (IST)
From: Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in>
To: Paul West <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Sleepy
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Paul I think this can happen to anyone as the blood supply and the nerves
(I think ) are blocked and the leg or hand seem to be dead. i think this
is not related to K. That's what i think from my experiences.
love,
Anurag
On 21 May 1998, Paul West wrote:
> Hello.
>
> I would like to inquire about the way that my body goes to sleep.
>
> If I sit in a particular position for a few minutes a part of my body
> goes to sleep. Usually this is my legs. It is often places where there
> is contact, so can also be my behind. It doesn't often happen further
> up the body. If I sit, like I am now, with one leg tucked underneath,
> sort of sitting on it,it goes to sleep. I can continue to function
> pefectly fine, except that my sleeping leg has absolutely no control.
> To touch it is like touching a piece of dead flesh. It feels hard and
> the skin of my leg can barely feel any sense that it is being touched.
> It is, basically, asleep.
>
> Then the fun part comes when I wake it back up again. This is none too
> pleasant. I consider it dangerous to walk on a sleeping leg because
> simply all the bones will move to pretty much wherever you put them
> and I think that might risk breakage or serious injury. So, when part
> of this body is asleep, I will perhaps outstretch a leg or something
> to let it wake up. But this is quite annoying how it happens. It
> starts to tingle a bit, it starts to vibrate. It is sort of cold,
> there is an energy throughout, which quickly intensifies. The /size/
> of my leg will shrink. It is like coming down from a higher plane and
> becoming closer to physical reality itself. It is like my leg will
> shrink is size. If my foot is on the floor I will gradually feel the
> bottom of my foot coming up to meet me. The difference is quite
> amazing. Once it has resized, the entire limb will begin to `charge
> up', the cold energy and increasing vibration. It will intensify and
> the limb will be hypersensitive. Quite a contrast to how it was asleep
> as if dead. In this mode, the slightest /hint/ of a twitch in ANY
> muscle in that limb leads to massive unbearable spasms and
> contractions. To even twitch a single muscle, the energies seem to
> `home in' on the twitch and amplify it immensely. When this is going
> on I simply daren't move. I have to sit still for a few minutes.
> Deadly still. Bending a knee while this is gonig out would be
> suicidal. The sensitivity to the contraction would be overwhelming. I
> have learnt from experience that one does not move when this is
> underway!
>
> Eventually it comes around and with some more tingling kind of akin to
> pins and needles, but not so sharp, it eventually regains its life.
> It's hard to walk on for a little while though because it starts to go
> back to sleep again.
>
> I think this is wierd though. I don't know if it happening in other
> people. Any part of me that I just sort of forget about just goes to
> sleep. But the real strange bit is how it wakes up. It's nothing like
> when you wake up in the morning and have immediate full motion. And
> what is the energies? It is the astral body realigning itself or
> something, or consciousness redistributing itself into the physical
> form? I certainly do know that the body has expanded when the leg is
> asleep (it's usually a leg), and that it shrinks several inches when
> deflating into the physical form - which corresponds with the
> regaining of physical sensations. Am I an entity from the astral
> plane? Why does my body behave in this way? And why, sitting here now,
> do I feel that if this body were to be taken away I would still have
> every part of me that I consider to be my identity?
>
> --
> Paul.
>
> IRC: #amiga, Dalnet: #blitz
> WWW: http://www.stationone.demon.co.uk
> E-M: paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk
>
>
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 11:31:50 -0000
From: "Walls" <MURPHY18ATnospamprodigy.net>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: body sleeping
Message-Id: <199806161530.LAA44348ATnospampimout4.prodigy.net>
> > I would like to inquire about the way that my body goes to sleep
This is a totally normal reaction to a lack of blood circulation to certain
parts of the body! hahaha
Think that's bad, wait until your sleeping, and one arm falls asleep! You
have to use your other arm to sling over the sleeping one just to roll over
in bed! Hate when that happens! hahahaah
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 08:46:08 PDT
From: "b bah" <happyhunaATnospamhotmail.com>
To: NancyATnospamwtp.net
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: a question
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A QUESTION
Sun,
Moon,
Stars,
Sky,
Kundalini,
me,
why?
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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 09:03:19 PDT
From: "b bah" <happyhunaATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: question typo
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sorry sorry sorry. my keyboard don't spell well.
what son's keyboard was supposed to type:
"If average folks have alter egos, do AvatARS have altAR egos?
Some one on Klist suggested "ego altars"
back to lurking, bbah
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Date: 16 Jun 98 19:48:38 +0000
From: "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Seeing yourself
Message-Id: <3586CAD0.MD-0.196.paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
:
What people have been saying about realising that their entire
personal universe exists inside their own head... I am starting to see
also. It's as though a paradigm shift, from a viewpoint where you are
just set in your ways and so everytime you see something you do not
challenge the way it appears to you, to a viewpoint where you realise
that you are actually having this attitude about yourself, and that
the actual real thing doesn't necessarily look that way. Things are
changing.
I feel a lot happier since I have started to realise the extent to
which I have been treating myself badly. How automatically opinionated
I have been and how unwilling to change those opinions I have been. My
whole life I have not questioned the validity or effect of my
irresponsibility. I had thought I questioned everything, but the exact
opposite has been the reality. I really did not think that the bad
appearance of many things in the world could have been my own atttude,
and therefore something that could change.
There have been many things that I do not like the look of, because
fundamentally it is an attitude of mine that I don't want to look at.
I have, over the course of time, seen this apparant in songs and
public figures, that I will almost subconsciously taking a disliking
to somebody for no apparent reason, only many years later to see what
they represented part of myself that I didn't like or didn't want to
face up to. I've become more at peace with such people, and not just
people either. And I think it is also a factor of this to stop
interfering with things, trying to control them and so on.
I used to get quite annoyed when someone would come along and disturb
the state of mind I was in, because I was trying to control them which
requires holding onto them, and this transformed their appearance into
all sorts of emotions and images which of course I was not satisfied
with. It's quite extraordinary. You fundamentally have an ambition, an
ideology, a comfort, and maintaining that ideology is a permanent
effort. A person comes along that does not fit and you see yourself
making the effort to interfere with what and how they are. It shocks
one into thinking that one has only just had their peace disturbed,
but it was no kind of peace really and one just wasn't aware of that.
So I keep reminding myself now, "don't interfere with it", just let it
be. And there is an answer, if you let it be, and when you just leave
the universe alone for God to sort out, you start to be yourself. And
that is very peaceful.
--
Paul.
IRC: #amiga, Dalnet: #blitz
WWW: http://www.stationone.demon.co.uk
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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 14:57:46 -0400
From: antares <antaresATnospamneuron.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: hello, and something that happened
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hi there. kundalini's come up as a tickly meme for me a lot in the last
10 yrs or so .. i used to say i was kinda exploring things, i'm in an
exploration phase or something (maybe to excuse a big fat ego thing :) but
i'm realising nuh-uh, this exploration path seems to be my life. :)
anyway, a couple of things happened lately, in a rather concentrated phase
of this exploration that inspired a 'hmm... kundalini again?' feeling. i
was on this list or a similar one a few years ago but it died or i
unsubbed or something, i don't recall. anyhoo, i thought maybe yall might
dig something i wrote up (in the spirit of a trip report, actually), b/c
it got me a couple of responses in the vein of, "welcome to kundalini!",
which made me go hmmm.... *maybe*. :) i wrote it a few months ago and
since then i've really come to understand some things i was trying to
describe that i didn't then, mostly centering around awareness verses
letting my mind churn all the time like it tends to. i'm afraid it's
kinda heavy on the sexuality thing, but i would like to communicate that
although i cant say i really gnow kundalini enough to even really know the
questions i have for it, i do grok that it's not a big humpy thing like
tantra gets stereotyped as in the west. the post was written to people
i'm close to so forgive the chatty or maybe even vague stuff. :)
anyhoo.. hello and here 'tis. :)
---
okie dokie .. here's the preamble, which may not be needed, to this little
trip report about a non-drug but kinda psychedelic experience .. i've been
pretty vocal about a lot of stuff thats been changing in my life over the
last year, new vistas, new freakouts, it's up and down and all over but
generally it amounts to feeling like i'm doing a huge catchup thing this
year, kinda integrating my life and stuff, maturing emotionally at last,
etc etc .. so, that's the context for this thingie that happened:
i yap about sex a lot, it's been on my mind, maybe too much, i dunno.
it's kinda like i stumbled out of a shell all of a sudden and am just
going nuts finding out what all i can do with this life thing i find
myself holding on to. so today i had this 'sexual'/sensual experience
that i thought might make for a kinda groovy trip report or something,
feedback and anecdotes of yalls would be cool to read as well.
so, what happened is, today i'm feelin pretty groovy, which is great b/c
i'd been intensely depressed for a few weeks up to monday eve or so, and
so in this kinda groovy happy state just diggin the temperature and the
soothing cloudiness of the sky, moist air coming up from the gulf making
it this nice cuddly kinda cool atmosphere to be alive in etc etc, and so i
get on the bus. the bus was very late, so standing room only, very
crowded. ths guy i didnt notice at the busstop (i was reading LfT) gets
on after me and b/c of space considerations he ends up with his back kinda
pressed a bit against my front, not like crazily or anything though.
he's kinda cute in an immediate way and i dunno i start to notice he
smells nice and has soft curly hair kinda happy against his neck blah blah
until ok, i'm completely turned on by this person and am just *longing* to
bite his round little shouler or put my hands up his shirt or *something*
:) a normal sort of moment, nothing particularly profound there ..
so a seat clears out and i sit down and he ends up, instead of turned to
face the front of the bus, one hand on each rail like everyone else, he's
got both hands on the rail above me and is facing me and has his thigh
kinda pressed up against my arm and shoulder. so i'm doing my usual cris
thing and thinking way too much about it and wondering if it's possible
this nice, normal looking collegey student kinda guy could possibly be
doing this on purpose, or if i'm just a pervy geek and inventing context
or hmm dee hmm what what? at some point the thoughts kinda ramble off
down the road (rare for me) and i let them go and decide its unimportant,
i'm not hurting anybody by liking having this thigh pressed against my
shoulder and i can amost feel, etc etc ahem.
so, you know, the bus sways and bounces and the sensation of desire, of
something happening, is almost to overload, i wonder if he has any clue,
then i think, uh, gee, who *wouldn't* be aware of having the front of
their thigh pressed into someone's arm, that *zone* right level with my
face, etc etc .. hee, i am a *goof*, i know .. but anyway, it's quite an
electrical moment and i'm thinking, wow, life is kinda neat that way
sometimes, like as in, whether god is Real or god is a bubble in my
psyche, Things Happen and there's no worries i guess .. i dunno, babble
babble ..
so .. there's a shift on the bus again and he is moved by the crowd back a
ways, and i am kinda contemplating what i just felt and feeling very
serene for some wierd reason, the context of wierd being that arousal
unfortunately tends to manifest a little immaturely for me, kinda urgent
and awkward and hot and reason kinda takes a nosedive etc etc, as much as
i would like to slow down, be cool, take the stairs slow like your
teachers tell you, i tend to either fly down the bannister or trip and
boomple bumple down the stairs boince bounce boink. um, anyway .. so
that's i spose relevant context because this *serenty* is unusual for me,
and something starts to happen to me that i haven't experienced before, so
far as i know, it's kinda synchronous with some other emotional 'firsts'
over the last few days or so .. anyway, it may have happened to me before
and got dismissed or not understood, but this is the frist lucid
experience like this for me.
i start to feel like my sensation, or my ability to sense, is starting to
extend from me, a little like it's like little roots burrowing or running
out from me into the seat and into the bus and into the people through
their feet, but at the same time also like flat horizontal rings kinda
slowly one after another radiating out from me, kinda solar plexus area ..
it's really wierd b/c though i'm all into the energee thing and
transcendental experiences and stuff, these profound things don't happen
to me too often and when they do it kinda boggles me :)
so, anyway, this sensation becomes more and more intense until its almost
like i am melded with the space defined by this bus, the people in it are
like little rods and cones in the carpet of my eye as sensory entity or
(hee i have no way to explain this :)) and the bus itself feels like a
sense organ or something, i feel like the air is passing through me, that
i am light and maybe permeable, but at the same time i also feel like my
sensation of 'me' is diffusing a bit, that the sensory terrain feeding
back to my aewareness is not only increasing in scope, but that my 'self'
itself is spreading out to cover the same territory, even in a more
definite sense than i normally feel in my *own* body .. if this makes any
sense i'm pretty stoked :)
anyway, my mind was very quiet, even in the midst of some soft subtle
scramble to *grok* whats happening, to experience it and getall lucid
about it (kinda an allegory about orgasms, i often get wrapped up in
wanting to really soak up and observe whats happening to the point where
it sometimes slips past me w/o the i dunno, surrender thing happening,
which kinda greys it out a bit i dunno blah blah..) so anyway yea, its
happening, and im able to stay with it and be there w/o wigging it away,
maybe it was just not so fragile i could or maybe my mind was calmer..
i think i was there maybe 10 minuites or so before i got distracted and
kinda felt my awareness and sensory self kinda suck up and focus, a little
like the way a tape measure sucks up into the case :)
and that was that :)
so, what hits me on thinking about this later, is that this clicks into a
lot of kinda anecdotal info, common sense type stuff, books i've read,
allegories, a whole buncha stuff that i don't think was so clear to me or
at least was not clear in the sense that i had to kinda imagine what the
Thing was in there, there was something about this experience i haven't
felt on drugs or anything before, but it seems kinda like a bit of a
milestone thingie. it reminds me of the difference between hearing about
runners high and *having* my first runners high, hearing about acid and
*tripping* for the first time, etc etc
---
that was the message i posted in the aftermath. hope it was fun to read.
:)
antaresATnospamneuron.net | what if the hokey pokey
www.neuron.net/~antares | really is what it's all about?
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 15:09:12 -0400
From: David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net>
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>, Damaris <dserateATnospamtelrepcosvc.com>
Subject: Kundalini Awake
Message-ID: <3586C2D7.714EBDEATnospammail.snet.net>
These are the lyrics from one of 'my' recent songs I wrote ("heard"?).
Some of the lines I borrowed from a prose version I sent to this list
'bout a year ago:
Kundalini Awake
I was lost in the woods.
Where an energetic snake just bit me. (shakitpat!)
Snake dance. Shamanic trance.
Kundalini surfer ride the wave of life.
Her venom's in my veins. Her poison's in my brain.
Infusing her essence. Deep into my higher self.
She's singing in the rain. Some say that I'm insane.
She's calling me. (calling me.)
(Kundalini rising like a full moon in heat.)
I thought she was sent from the abyss.
I felt the heat of hell and all of the bliss.
(She spoke in tongues unimaginable.)
My world view shook. I had to look.
I grasped for what I knew. But it wasn't true.
A bigger picture begins to emerge.
Frequencies converge.
Let's take a bath in a purified stream.
Let's just laugh cause nothing's what it seems.
She moves through me. Like some groovin' beat.
My eternal lover. Creeping up my spine.
Some sacred heat. The constant beat.
Of Kundalini rising. Kundalini awake.
And all the violence. And the twisting and shaking,
That some have seen. Will be seen to be the gentle kiss of Love.
Kundalini rising. Kundalini awake.
Her fire is hot like the heat of Death.
But I can't let go. I feel her breath.
(She said, "Let go, there's no turning back.")
Burned at the stake. At a sacred place.
Ego barbecue. What's a lost soul to do?
(So I surrender into the light...)
I feel her in the air. I feel her in my spine.
I'm not sure what she is. But I think that she's divine.
She's just trying to set us free. She's gentle if you let her be.
The rest will understand someday. One day.
Then she shows me this vision.
Of a figure. Raging in flames.
It would not decay.
Like the burning bush that Moses saw.
I knew that it was me.
Electric eel that affects what you feel.
I close my eyes. And transmit energy.
Through me to you. (Shaktipat.)
Nervous system shock. Power output line.
Leading to the sky. Tree of life.
This lover never leaves. This lover never lies.
She breathes love. This lover never dies.
(There's so much love to give.)
She shot out of my head. And headed for the stars.
Leaving only who we are.
(I was dead. So I thanked her.)
(C)1998 by David Bozzi
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 14:35:56 -0500
From: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: The Void
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I remember my encounter with the void. It wasn't "blackness" for me, but
shades of shifting electric grey, like static. My self was utterly lost...
What will happen now? Pure terror... Thoughts of goodness and light were no
help as every one was immediately met by it's most perverse and opposite
manifestation... There was no escape... I was suspended in the limitless
grey cold reality of never ending psychic pain... My mind reached
frantically for something to hold on to. Eventually, I just started
counting... Numbers were blameless, pure, neutral, safe.... I was finally
able to ratchet down to a more comfortable anxiety level...
Of course at the time I had little knowledge of this possibly being a
"spiritual experience". I lived it as a "losing my mind" experience.... It
is interesting to go back and reframe it as a useful paradigm for limitless
creativity...
amckeon
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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 14:36:04 -0500
From: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Why would anyone...
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>xxxtg wrote:
>* "Lord, please make me the kind of person my dog thinks I am." *
>
>Only we who have dogs can appreciate the profoundness of this statement.
>
>Larry
*"Lord, please make me the kind of person my neighbor's dog thinks I am."*
amckeon
*holding a box of avatar treats*
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 14:36:12 -0500
From: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Great Balls O' Fire
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DaveO:
>Yeah, I can fart balls of lightning out my ass.
So when will this be in quicktime movie format on a webpage?
amckeon,
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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 19:48:45 GMT
From: sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net (Jack)
To: "Luis figueredo" <bestsysATnospamsion.com>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: The Fractal *I* & DNA & Astral Projection , pa
Message-ID: <358acc18.18340118ATnospammailhost.worldnet.att.net>
I would like to know how you get this experience?. Because is not
usual. It takes too much time and only a little lot of people reach it
and the effects are very differents according at your evolution level.
I don't know your background but I assure that you can understand
whatever theory because they don't have nothing to do in having a
proper education and training in certain scientific disciplines.
IP.S: By the way.. Where are you from?
===============
Hello Louis :
I have several comments to make in answer to your post. I tend
to see "Morphologic Resonance" as a seperate phenomenon apart from
K-energy. While the initial experience was I think, spurred by
K-awakening, subsequent experiences were achieved through meditation.
As a matter of fact I had been practicing several techniques that I
developed on my own before I found out that the same techniques were
used by practitioners of several different philosophies.
Bentov's paper on the physiological aspects of resonance is a
good place to start.
Rather than push my own thoughts on someone, I tend to point
out texts that explain my experience, some are exact while others are
close. Sheldrake, Gerber, Becker & Selden, Castaneda (Mr. & Ms.) and a
few others come close. Seperating the wheat from the chaff is
difficult but eventually one can find texts that are valid for their
particular experience.
My background in education is in the Health Sciences but my
comment about understanding certain Scientific disciplines was in
reference to the difficulty I find in trying to understand some
theories, especially quantum physics, and how the could fill the gaps
where a valid and satisfactory explanation is lacking in my
experience.
For instance, I find the practice of celibacy and 'reverse
orgasm' very interesting. However, and explanation of how the proteins
and enzymes contained in the human sex hormones are modified then
transported and absorbed by spinal fluid escapes me. Especially the
male-female hormones and the difference in their chemical make-up.
Another theory, Tensegrity, attentions and Intent, put forth
by followers of Castaneda intrigue me. Ninety-five percent of my
experience involves one other individual, and the possible connection
we may have to eachother. Others, however, especially these same
followers of the Toltec priciples speak of a multitude of different
locations and personalities they experience through their practices.
And then we have the many phenomena spoken of down through the
ages. Remote Viewing, Past Life Experiences, Healing (Vibrational
Medicine), Telekinesis and the oldest and my favorite, the theory of
"Twin Flames" or two seperate entities one female, one male who,
though seperate beings unto themselves, share the same soul or
spiritual energy.
Because of the difficulty or negativism one can bump into when
speaking with others about these phenomenae, I think some of us tend
to keep quiet. There is nothing I find more pleasing than to run into
someone who has experienced a phenomena similar to my experience, and
then compare notes.
To my regret I have only found one individual, whom, I think,
has experienced 'morphologic resonance' in the exact same way that I
have. I know 'him' only by his handle and from his writing on the
alt.dreams.castaneda newsgroup. This man was able to describe the
process in detail. His description fit my own experience exactly. I
hadn't spoke of my experience to anyone up to that time and so you can
see, his description was very valid, to me.
The tone of this man's posts lead me to believe he values his
anonymity and privacy very much, so you will forgive me if I don't
post his 'handle'.
Regards,
Jack
PS : I'm in Boston, Massachusetts, USA.
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 16:46:46 -0400
From: sruddATnospambible.ca
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Most powerful living Kundalini GURU?
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Steve Rudd here,
Is Mahamandaleshwar Swami Nityananda the most powerful living Kundalini
Guru today?
Who else would you name as the most powerful Kundalini leader today that is
still living?
Thanks!
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Steve Rudd
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sruddATnospambible.ca
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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 17:01:28 -0400
From: "Marsha & Stephen" <kandulATnospamg-net.net>
To: <Jude1ATnospamwebtv.net>, <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
Message-Id: <199806162103.RAA13238ATnospamultrasparc-3.g-net.net>
judy and all-
judy writes:
1. Strange white and gold geometric type shapes that take over my field of
vision for no known reason unexpectedly. There is no pain, but that
sometimes get so strong I cannot clearly see anything else. It usually
last for approx 15-20 minutes. They're kind of neat to look at, but
confusing and inconvenient. I call them my "no pain migranes", although
they are not like a migrane as it is NOT a tunnel vision type effect.
marsha:
judy...me too. i don't have a clue as to what this is...got my eyes
checked out and everything is ok (the doc. said is was stress, but that
seems to be what they say when they don't know what else to say...besides i
was under no stress).
so far just a few episodes...they last from 20 min to one hr. i finally
just decided to relax and enjoy the show. sorry . no answers, but
sometimes it is nice to know that someone else out there is experiencing
the same thing.
blessings,
marsha
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