1998/06/14 22:52
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #458
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 458
Today's Topics:
Re: Re Avatar Dave on K list Apology [ vcooper <madammumATnospamptialaska.net> ]
Re: addiction and kundalini [ "Lobster" <lobsterATnospamdial.pipex.com> ]
Re: Avatar Dave on K-list- An apolog [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
RE: addiction and kundalini [ "jb" <hc19436ATnospamautovia.com> ]
Re: addiction and kundalini [ sruddATnospambible.ca ]
Re: Relationship [ "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon. ]
Re: Relationship [ WEIVODAATnospamaol.com ]
Re: the wonder of dark places [ Dan Margolis <margolisATnospamtransbay.net ]
Re: Ego's truth [ Dan Margolis <margolisATnospamtransbay.net ]
The Serpent and the Lobster [ tompatterson28ATnospamjuno.com (Tom Patter ]
Everything is everything else. [ "Ed Arrons" <eeaATnospamaug.com> ]
Re: The Serpent and the Lobster [ sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net (Jack) ]
Re: the wonder of dark places [ sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net (Jack) ]
Re: The Serpent and the Lobster [ AfperryATnospamaol.com ]
Re: The Serpent and the Lobster [ Nancy <NancyATnospamwtp.net> ]
RE: Continuity [ "jb" <hc19436ATnospamautovia.com> ]
Re: Goddess [ Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iis ]
Sensing Reality [ Wonderer <mrtn74aATnospamProdigy.com> ]
Re: The Fractal *I* & DNA & Astral P [ sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net (Jack) ]
AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Cen [ Judy Larose <Jude1ATnospamwebtv.net> ]
Unidentified subject! [ "Paul Torres" <island_11ATnospamhotmail.co ]
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 23:02:51 -0800
From: vcooper <madammumATnospamptialaska.net>
To: L Willowdancing <willowdancingATnospamhotmail.com>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Re Avatar Dave on K list Apology
Message-ID: <3584C70F.5B2AATnospamptialaska.net>
L Willowdancing wrote:
>
> So...Is it Avatar or Dave?,
> I'm going to use "Dave"
<snip>
> >I am sorry! I will never again utter the words as- and f-rt again on
> the k-
> >list!
<snip>
I get so confused with these posts where nobody even knows what's going
on with the original post they are replying to! How is this supposed to
make any sense at all?
Can anynody help me? What is this *message*?
My 'kundalini' is leaking...
vc
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HIPPOPOTOMONSTROSESQUIPEDALIAN:
Having to do with a very long word.
Valerie Cooper * http://geocities.com/SoHo/7982/
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 08:13:49 +0100
From: "Lobster" <lobsterATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>,
"Maven Peal Instruments, Inc." <pealATnospamhalcyon.com>
Subject: Re: addiction and kundalini
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>Seems like depression is a common experience with the practice of
>kundalini. What about addiction? Is this also a common experience with
>kundalini?
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 05:16:59 -0800
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Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 01:52:49 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: Dave08812ATnospamaol.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Avatar Dave on K-list- An apology
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At 12:20 AM 14/06/98 EDT, Dave08812ATnospamaol.com wrote:
>I am sorry! I will never again utter the words as- and f-rt again on the k-
>list! It was uncalled for to say as- and f-rt! Please forgive me for saying
>as- and f-rt on the k-list.
>I implore you! And it was downright uncommon of me to brag about my yogic
>powers with my penis. Actually it is quite ordinary, but I digress! From now
>on I am a reformed man, who is just full of kundalini. I apologize!!
>
>
> Love,
>
> Dave
>
I wrote this as a private response to someone who wished to be unsubbed
because the list was unsuitable for his Mother, not what they had expected,
and the traffic was becoming catastrophic... spirit has been bugging me to
forward it here, ever since.. here ya go, Dave..
Jun. 11/98
Dear __:
The crankiness you and your Mother are experiencing, as well as all
the other present list silliness which I have been unable to contain in any
reasonable way is due simply to the season, and is a temporary condition
that will pass by the end of this month.
Alas, I am the List Mystress, and I am also slightly distressed at the
behavior of the list members lately, but since I do not enjoy feelings of
distress, and my ability to control what other people do is limited to
their willingness to do as I ask them, I gave my distress up to Goddess and
She reminded me it is a seasonal effect that I have seen appear on the list
regularly.
Kundalites often howl and foam at the mouth with the ascending earth
energy coming up to spring solstice, and full moon was yesterday..
Kundalini is Earth energy and seasonal temporary insanity when the Earth
energy shifts with the planet seems lo to be part of the process of LIVING
with awakened kundalini.. and when the energy is intense, sometimes the
process of dealing with the issues K. brings up to be cleared, get much
bigger than discussing the K. itself.. much like how a drowning person is
not likely concerned with discussing the temperature or cleanliness of the
water.
So what you have here is the *Process* of Kundalini at work civilizing
people.. some of whom have no recollection of asking for the experience in
the first place.. and sometimes it is not pretty!! But what do you expect
of a group of people who are trying to deal with Goddess clearing all of
their karma this month??
In the meantime, we have Goddess "weeding out the trivia" of the list
members by having them express it in words and post it to the list..
If you wish to leave the list, instructions for un subscribing yourself
are below.
You followed them correctly once already, but if you are attempting to
unsubscribe from a different address than you subscribed to the list, it
will not process. There is also an URL to unsub.
Due to temporary computer difficulties I am unable to unsubscribe you
myself.
I do wonder tho.. if you and your Mother are sincerely interested in the
civilizing influences of Kundalini, I offer the idea that we change the
world by changing ourselves within, so perhaps she might take a look at
her own expectations and judgments of this community.. as well as her
perceived limitations.. as a good place to begin her studies in
unconditional love and acceptance, and releasing negative opinions... and
discovering the perfection of All that Is.
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 13:15:22 +0100
From: "jb" <hc19436ATnospamautovia.com>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>,
"Maven Peal Instruments, Inc." <pealATnospamhalcyon.com>
Subject: RE: addiction and kundalini
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Kathy:
> Seems like depression is a common experience with the practice of
> kundalini.
Jan:
It is depression because of ignorance. If one has a solid practice of
meditation one is familiar with the effects of K. but the experience is
different. No matter the type of meditation / concentration practice, there
is no room left for thoughts like "I am depressed" and because of this,
depression isn't experienced as "I am suffering". Only without regular
meditation there exists the danger of becoming depressed.
Kathy
>What about addiction? Is this also a common experience with
> kundalini?
Jan:
There are two main types of addiction.
The first one is very common, contagious and goes under various names:
God, Goddess, Buddha, Krishna, Self, Shakti - to name but a few. It is a
most pleasant and healthy addiction whence "you" never return...
The second type is called mind-chatter and overheated unorderly thinking. It
happens when one isn't familiar with the effects and purpose of K. With the
aid of meditation/concentration, it can be resolved into the first type.
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 08:32:52 -0400
From: sruddATnospambible.ca
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: addiction and kundalini
Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980614083252.014b08b0ATnospambible.ca>
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Steve Rudd here,
Does anyone have video footage of Swami Muktananda or Mahamandaleshwar
Swami Nityananda or any other Kundalini as he causes the various
manifestations to occur within a crowd?
Thanks
Date: 14 Jun 98 16:46:40 +0000
From: "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Relationship
Message-Id: <3583FE70.MD-0.196.paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
Nancy,
> In answer to your questions, my opinion is that you think too much about
> yourself. Stop worrying so much about you and find some ways you can put
> your attention toward others through work, volunteer activities,
> relationships.
Yea. These questions are not my questions. I try to make them other
people's questions. I'm trying to be superhuman again.
--
Paul.
IRC: #amiga, Dalnet: #blitz
WWW: http://www.stationone.demon.co.uk
E-M: paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 12:21:38 EDT
From: WEIVODAATnospamaol.com
To: paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Relationship
Message-ID: <7d1eb387.3583f893ATnospamaol.com>
In a message dated 98-06-14 12:04:07 EDT, you write:
>Thankyou. I also know that when other people do give me the answers it
>does not solve the question, because the question still keeps coming
>up in a plethora of different forms. The underlying goo (a word I am
>becoming accustomed to) is still present. The basic boastfulness and
>lack of awareness is still there. And it is out of this that these
>stupid questions arise and are never answered. I am now trying to face
>this boastfulness, in reality, in real situations. I'm not altogether
>bad, just real crap with communicating who I really am, and I feel
>that the only thing that CAN be communicated involves seperation
>anyway.
Why do you feel that you need to communicate who you really are? You know who
you are, and then others have their own opnion on who you are. Of course when
others give the answer it is not going to solve the question because it is
their own opnion of you, and that may be different from what you think of
yourself.
Love,
Kristin
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 10:17:16 -0700
From: Dan Margolis <margolisATnospamtransbay.net>
To: "Holly N. Barrett, Ph.D." <hbarrettATnospamix.netcom.com>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: the wonder of dark places
Message-ID: <3584059B.C764FB51ATnospamtransbay.net>
> Anybody else noticing this? Can anybody explain to me why the
> darkness gets darker, sometimes? It this a balance to the bliss?
This may seem like a flippant answer. But the only reason the darkness
get's darker is that you want it that way...
There is no darkness, No enemies, No things dragging you down except your
illusions.
Does the sun still rise and set during your dark times? Do the star's
still come out during your dark times? Do flower's still bloom and
puppy's still play during your dark times?
People create their own darkness and attach themselves to it...
Dan M.
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 10:18:39 -0700
From: Dan Margolis <margolisATnospamtransbay.net>
To: Sharon Webb <shawebbATnospamyhc.edu>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Ego's truth
Message-ID: <358405EF.64F399D9ATnospamtransbay.net>
Sharon Webb wrote:
> Paul wrote:
>
> >Nobody knows of paradox like I do, and nobody knows of clarity like I
> do.
>
> Shall we sing Paul's song? All together now: "Nobody knows the trouble I
> see...."
I thought that was Peshwani's song... I guess they are all unique
misunderstood individuals...
Dan M.
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 14:26:26 EDT
From: tompatterson28ATnospamjuno.com (Tom Patterson)
To: AfperryATnospamaol.com, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Cc: tompat28ATnospamix.netcom.com
Subject: The Serpent and the Lobster
Message-ID: <19980614.113343.4247.0.tompatterson28ATnospamjuno.com>
Hello Alan and List,
What do you think these email lists such as the "K" list and the new "I
am" and the many others mean as far as the evolution of humanity on
Earth? I mean, it used to be very difficult in everyday life to find
anyone who would talk at all, let alone intelligently, along these lines.
Now, some or even many, of those posting on the lists have real
insights and very practical experience to share concerning what I call
man's possible evolution.
Now I am communicating world wide with other people who like myself,
are making efforts toward self-realization. And, I do not even have to
comb my hair or drive my car to do it. I now communicate from a deeper
part of myself (or at least a different part) since I do not have so much
of the ego positioning to navigate as if I was at a meeting in the flesh.
Here though I see the danger of loosing the emotional communication of
personal contact to the cold plain text words and ideas of email.
I am not sure how best to say it, but I think this computer worldwide
email communication is a change, and maybe a big change in the evolution
of life on earth and we are the first pioneers discovering the paths and
the pitfalls of a brave new world (insert dramatic background music
here). 1000 years hence will there be monuments to the battles between
the female Serpent and the male Lobster with whole new mythologies and
religions based on the profound and the bullshit that we mystic profits
and wise ancestors deposit in these posts.
How do you see it? Two years ago I did not own a computer. Today
when I push this "send" button, I will communicate with intelligent,
knowledgable, seekers of truth, worldwide. Some big changes are afoot.
The Mighty, the Wise and the Ancient,
Stanley Twidle
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Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 15:21:58 -0400
From: "Ed Arrons" <eeaATnospamaug.com>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Everything is everything else.
Message-Id: <199806141922.PAA15128ATnospamsandia.aug.com>
Hello Paul and All,
Is everyone everyone else?
Funny story: I was deeply into understanding and meditating
on "Jijimuge" in preparation for a talk I was giving at a local
center. I had occasion to call a friend and identified myself as
his wife. He was stunned, having recognized my voice. "Do
you have a gender problem" he asked seriously? "No" I said
laughing, "just getting too deep into the idea that Ed is also
everyone else." Couldn't stop laughing for days. That was 4
years ago and I'm still laughing.
Just a little note concerning "Jijimuge". It is a similar but older
view of David Bohm's "Implicate Order" and seen in the Kegon
school of Buddhism as the highest truth of Zen, meaning that
everything is ultimately everything else: everything, having
the divine spark, resonates with everything else.
So, are we all each other? :-)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 19:51:47 GMT
From: sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net (Jack)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: The Serpent and the Lobster
Message-ID: <358429d1.32312949ATnospammailhost.worldnet.att.net>
What do you think these email lists such as the "K" list and the new
"I am" and the many others mean as far as the evolution of humanity
on Earth?
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Hello Stan,
As with everything else, the internet has it's good/bad sides.
While enabling us to communicate on a planetary scale, the intimacy of
face to face communication is absent. Several of us could type the
same sentence but all with a different emotion behind the words on the
screen.
As a learning tool it is invaluable. Unfortunately, too many
of us delegate our responsibilities and even sometimes our morals to
our various governments, university faculty or clergy. This paves the
way for censorship of content. IMHO.
The other side of the coin, for me at least, is the ability to
communicate with those of similar interests and even, as was the case
for me, receive life saving information from those who have
experienced the Kundalini phenomenon firsthand.
The internet enables us to experiment, educate and inform a
large audience. In this cynical world it is something alltogether
different in getting them to listen.
Peace,
Jack
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 19:51:54 GMT
From: sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net (Jack)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: the wonder of dark places
Message-ID: <358529d5.32316890ATnospammailhost.worldnet.att.net>
There is no darkness, No enemies, No things dragging you down except
your illusions.
Does the sun still rise and set during your dark times? Do the star's
still come out during your dark times? Do flower's still bloom and
puppy's still play during your dark times?
Maybe she lives in Northern Alaska. : )>
Jack
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 17:26:13 EDT
From: AfperryATnospamaol.com
To: tompatterson28ATnospamjuno.com
Cc: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: The Serpent and the Lobster
Message-ID: <272ea71b.35843ff6ATnospamaol.com>
In a message dated 14/6/98 7:27:08 pm, you wrote:
>What do you think these email lists such as the "K" list and the new "I
>am" and the many others mean as far as the evolution of humanity on
>Earth?
To me, the most important aspect of the whole email/internet process is that
it is dramatically showing us just how small and interconnected we all are.
Distance no longer has a meaning. When the mass of humanity starts to sense
this, the traditional feelings of separation will gently and naturally
evaporate and we shall find ourselves in a Golden Era of peace, love and co-
operation based on Unity.
O.K....Dream over (nice while it lasted)...............now back to reality ;-)
God bless,
Alan
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 15:38:35 -0600
From: Nancy <NancyATnospamwtp.net>
To: Tom Patterson <tompatterson28ATnospamjuno.com>,
kundalini-1 <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: The Serpent and the Lobster
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> What do you think these email lists such as the "K" list and the new
> "I
> am" and the many others mean as far as the evolution of humanity on
> Earth?
I've often thought that the Internet is a force for beginning a
unification process. We are all one, interconnected, able to communicate
without physical proximity. Spiritual reality, Internet reality.
The Internet is a huge force in bringing down barriers. The only
remaining barriers is that not everyone is yet able to log on. I predict
that will change within the next 10 years.
Nancy
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 00:27:15 +0100
From: "jb" <hc19436ATnospamautovia.com>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: RE: Continuity
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Jan:
> > You could ask: "Who finds it distressing?" The Self has neither
> friends nor
> > enemies. If there is any rule in meditation at all, it is this: "As you
> > meditate, so you become". Because of this, many meditate on great
> > historical figures like the Avatars Krishna, Rama or other
> ancient Masters.
> > By applying this rule, can you say whereto all your thinking is going to
> > lead you?
>
> Paul:No
Jan: But I can. Superman-ipulated by super ego [:>)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 06:11:14 +0530 (IST)
From: Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in>
To: Paul West <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Goddess
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On 14 Jun 1998, Paul West wrote:
> :
>
> It has not normally been an approach of mine to view kundalini as
> female. There is huge reference to it as female but to me I have
> always thought of it as male. This might be changing.
I think kundalini should be beyond both sex itself.
>
> Lately I have had dreams (as usual) which have had a lot more women in
> it. They are of course images of women from my past, but they are very
> interested in me, they seem turned on by me or something, sexual. In
> the dreams I am somewhat surprised by this, being seen as so
> worthwhile by these women in a very `essence' sort of way.
kudalini awakening must have given u confidence and personality.I think
this is something behind it. Rest u know better.
>
> I do think k might have had a hand in what is happening to me at the
> moment. I am finding more self awareness, and becoming aware of the
> fact that I have for a long time been in a great dreamworld. I am calm
> at the moment so I can admit to this and doing so gives a feeling of
> honesty. It is... different... though, to think of this k as female,
> as goddess. My image of God is heavily male.
In devotion is there a time to think whether God is a male or female?
Love,
Anurag
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 20:41:39 -0700
From: Wonderer <mrtn74aATnospamProdigy.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Sensing Reality
Message-ID: <358497F3.5A4FATnospamProdigy.com>
Hi everyone,
Lately, I find myself doing or watching mundane things, and sensing they are unreal, or
less real than my internal universe. It is a pleasing sensation, that disappears too
quickly. I only recently understood that my inner universe is my reality. I
think of this something like "physical beings are like entities turned inside out".
The outer universe reflects our inner truth. This wonderful, but simple shift in
attitude, has caused these sensations. This may be my way/a way of beginning to pierce
the veil of maya. In meditation, I have also been trying to let my consciousness float
inward toward God, rather than await God to fill my consciousness through the chakras.
This is the opposite of raja yoga. Sometimes, it works better for me.
Cathy
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 02:02:09 GMT
From: sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net (Jack)
To: "Luis figueredo" <bestsysATnospamsion.com>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: The Fractal *I* & DNA & Astral Projection , pa
Message-ID: <35847bf1.53340085ATnospammailhost.worldnet.att.net>
Dear Jack , I have reading your e-mail about The Fractal *I* & DNA &
Astral Projection ...
I want to know more about the 3D Holograph experience with the missing
finger... where did you get this information? , because I did'n't saw
nothing about this in any book, news or the web so if you can tell me
more send an e-mail.
I like to read about ,chaos theory, quantum physics, Biology , eastern
and western philosopy and many subjects because I believe that
everything has to match with the consciousness level .
I am Luis Figueredo from Buenos Aires-Argentina.
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Hello Luis,
Yes I agree that many of those theories and philosophies may
have some intergration with each other. As far as the 3D Holograph
goes, you can find that in the works of Semoyan Kirlian. Also, I
believe Sheldrake refers to this in many of his works on Morphic
Resonance and to a lesser extent Bentov.
I have had first hand experience with this phenomenon and can
assure you that this principle is effective in the tangible world. As
a believer in absolutely nothing but what I saw with my own eyes or
that which Science showed me was valid, I experienced this phenomena
during my K awakening last October. At that time I did not have any
knowledge of what I was experiencing. Through research I found an
explanation that satisfied my cynical nature, and through practice
have been successful many times in matching bioelectromagnetic
frequencies with other ECM resonance regardless of distance. I have
also been lucky enough to validate the data, independently.
In a nutshell, from a universal macrocosm to a quantum
microcosm all resembles and resonates to matching frequencies.
At this point, I am trying to reconsile the artificial
man-made concept of time with resonance, frequency and the light
spectrum. Very difficult without the proper education and training in
certain scientific disciplines.
Regards,
Jack
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 17:28:18 -1000 (HST)
From: Judy Larose <Jude1ATnospamwebtv.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
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I have a few questions about kundalini symptoms if anyone out there can help. There are three physical symptoms I have been having, one for about 20 yrs, one for about 10 yrs and the last for about 1-2 yrs. I don't know if they are kundalini related or what and at a loss and searching for info. I have seen a physician for one of them to no avail. They are as follows:
1. Strange white and gold geometric type shapes that take over my field of vision for no known reason unexpectedly. There is no pain, but that sometimes get so strong I cannot clearly see anything else. It usually last for approx 15-20 minutes. They're kind of neat to look at, but confusing and inconvenient. I call them my "no pain migranes", although they are not like a migrane as it is NOT a tunnel vision type effect.
2. A high pitched piercing type sound that comes into my head at an angle and lasts 5-20 seconds. This year when they happen there is no pain, although previously there was to the point I would stop whatever I was doing and hold my head until it passed.
3. A VERY STRONG feeling like energy rushing in a vertical line in the center of my body. Sometimes when this happens I break out in a sweat. I would think of heart palpitations or something like that if it were not in the center of my body. This occurrence even woke me from a deep sleep once this year, and that time it last for what seemed to be a long period of time (maybe an hour...usually it's only about 5-15 minutes.
Could there be a rational explanation for these things?
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 20:45:50 PDT
From: "Paul Torres" <island_11ATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk
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With all of the christianity bashing going on, I would like to share
an experience that I had last Christmas. Some time ago I had given my
christianity to someone else, but this was the first mass that I had
gone to where I admitted that to myself. I was trying to read how
people felt at this occasion, when I realized their sincerity, and was
filled with a great feeling of peaceful power. At that moment I
realized the true meaning of the Power of the People. I hate to be
labeled for my faulty christian quoting, but they seem appropriate, the
lord said, "where one or more are gathered in my name, there I am in
their midst." One can learn alot from this life, even from bad
examples, so take this christianity as with everything,as a good or bad
example, and see what it has to teach you.
Paul Torres
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