1998/06/10 01:08
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #443
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 443
Today's Topics:
AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Cen [ Tim Weaver <weave02ATnospamaol.com> ]
Re: Signing off for now [ onarresATnospaminreach.com ]
AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Cen [ Pat Panza <enlightATnospamsgi.net> ]
Re: our very own avatar needs transl [ Delirium <deliriumATnospamfull-moon.com> ]
Re: Signing off for now [ David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net> ]
Re: Something's bothering me... Help [ David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net> ]
re: GUILT & PUNISHMENT [ "j percyval" <percyval2ATnospamhotmail.com ]
Re: our very own avatar needs transl [ "Anne" <devatyATnospamic-net.com.au> ]
Re: Question ? [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
Re: yucky feelings [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
Re: Words and Definitions [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
Re: too damned many posts lately and [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
Re: Question ? [ "Paul Torres" <island_11ATnospamhotmail.co ]
Re: The feet question [ Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iis ]
Re: The feet question [ Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iis ]
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 17:00:58 -1000 (HST)
From: Tim Weaver <weave02ATnospamaol.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
Message-Id: <199806100300.RAA12564ATnospamhaleakala.aloha.net>
Hello-
About two weeks ago i was reading the "Sightings" website and came across an article on Kundalini. I was very busy and only had the chance to glance through it, but what I read was incredible. Sunday I went back to read the whole thing and it was gone. I wrote to Sightings for help but haven't heard from them. Could you please tell me the best place to read about this on the internet (money is tight so i can't afford any books right now)? Thank you for your help.
Tim Weaver
weave02ATnospamaol.com
p.s. I'm also very interested if there is a "Grand Master" or something like that I could write to. I'd prefer the U.S. but anywhere would be good. Again, I'd greatly appreciate any help.
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 20:23:36 -0700
From: onarresATnospaminreach.com
To: Ori <oriATnospameskimo.com>, Kundalini-l <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Signing off for now
Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980609202336.006e6da0ATnospammail.inreach.com>
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Hi Ori,
So happy to have you back. I have missed your posts and wisdom. Welcome home!
Blessings dor
At 06:30 PM 6/9/98 -0700, Ori wrote:
>Hello,
>Had a short while, thought I'd stop by and test the waters. It is
interesting to return to a place from which I've received so much
information... kind of like coming home, including the part where I find
myself spending more time deleting posts than reading them.
>
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 17:32:43 -1000 (HST)
From: Pat Panza <enlightATnospamsgi.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
Message-Id: <199806100332.RAA25315ATnospamhaleakala.aloha.net>
Ken Wilber states: ...all of those for whom authentic transformation
has deeply unseated their souls must...wrestle with the profound moral
obligation to shout from the heart...authenticity always and absolutely
carries a demand and duty...you must speak out...to the best of your
ability...and shake the spiritual tree...and shine your headlights into
the eyes of the complacent.
You were allowed to see the truth under the agreement that you would
communicate it to others....the ultimate meaning of the bodhisattva vow.
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 22:52:43 +0100
From: Delirium <deliriumATnospamfull-moon.com>
To: Avatar Thyer <thyerATnospamfreenet.grfn.org>, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: our very own avatar needs translating...
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Okay, Av, I'm not trying to pick on you, really I'm not... just to
figure out if you're worth reading...(which by the way is not a value
judgment of *you*, just of whether what you're writing is pertinent to
me right now)...and when you sign yourself as Avatar you're making
claims to a title that has large spiritual connotations.
tg probably said it best when she said the following:
> can't speak for anyone else, but me thinks its the title you have put upon
> yourself that is causing the challenges. ...
>
> (New World Dictionary of the American Language...
>
> AVATAR: A god's coming down in bodily form to the earth; incarnation of a
> god.
>
One of the features of humanity (and the road to enlightenment, IMO) is
the power to discern the difference between what is being said and how
the person is saying it...in a conversation face-to-face it's a bit
easier, because we can see the face, hear the intonation of the words,
and can sometimes get a feeling for whether the speaker is talking
through his or her heart or through his or her butt...
That's the main problem I have when somebody comes on and introduces
themselves as an incarnation of god...
...or as you kindly later explain your definition as one of spirit's
individual incarnations...
So, Av, *why didn't ya say so earlier?* Surely you know the dictionary
definition of avatar is different from what you have just told us *your*
definition is.
Hon, we hardly know you so we gotta figure out whether we can trust what
you are saying to us. (regardless of Mystress's endorsement of you in an
earlier post) Now that you have told us what *you* consider an Avatar, I
don't have as much trouble with what you're saying...it's just one more
opinion...as worthy of consideration as any other on this list.
> Rather than bending to the peer pressure of the group and
> conforming my
> writing to whatever popular style is informally approved by the
> clique so
> that I can fit in, I've always chosen to do something much more
> honest --
> I'm always chosen to be my self. And it has always brought out
> the bullies
> in a group who bark at anyone who dares be their selves like
> attack dogs.
>
Are you sure, dear Av, that you aren't putting yourself on a "higher
perch" and possibly unconsciously saying stuff you know will get you the
attention of the "bullies?" As I'm not very good at sensing the Shakti
coming off posts, I do sense some energy there, but I don't know from
where you are coming...I can only ask.
> In the end, I can only say what anybody can say who is participating with
> others in a world where relationships happen with words: if I write
> something that is unclear, tell me what is specifically unclear -- tell me
> what you think it means and why it is unclear -- and I will do my best to
> make as clear as I can for you.
>
Dear Av, that was my intent. Your post seemed to me to consider what I
said an attack or a negative judgment. It was not. (see, I said that
some probably find my posts unintelligible!)...
And don't get me wrong, I'm not making negative judgments about you
because of your writing, just expressing one woman's opinion. And if the
way I perceive your posts allows me to do some work on things that push
buttons in me, well gee, thanks, really! One person's dry, lofty tome is
another's sweet nectar...
Signing me off today as
God
(but meaning one of the incarnations of spirit)
;-P
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 23:59:28 -0400
From: David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net>
To: Ori <oriATnospameskimo.com>, Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Signing off for now
Message-ID: <357E04A0.651828CAATnospammail.snet.net>
Ori wrote:
> The teacher says, "You are like that cup, full with no room for more.
> Only when your cup is empty, will there be room for tea."
May you not get gas.See you later when you get thirsty again. : )
PEACE
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 00:21:35 -0400
From: David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net>
To: shamaneyesATnospamyahoo.com, Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Something's bothering me... Help!
Message-ID: <357E09CE.B756DD7EATnospammail.snet.net>
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Adon wrote:
> My being pounds fiercely with
> love when even an image of her flashes in my mind´s eye. We have
> every intention of marriage. At the same time, calling even more
> powerfully, profoundly, is Shakti. Hers is a call I will not ignore.
Abandon the image of Shakti.Abandon the image of your friend.
Now there is just a Call.
> Sex to climax diverts the Shakti down
> towards physical pleasure. It is wasteful to one attempting to speed
> his spiritual evolution.
Abandon this belief.(whether it be fact or fiction)
> The thought of a
> non-abundant sex life does not appeal to her though, this I know.
And you?
> But recently, the urge to know Self and raise K has grown 11-fold.
Fine. Stay with the Urge.Attach it to nothing.
> I find now that I´m considering not getting married
> more and more.
This is an illusionary issue.
> Sometimes I think that the married life would distract me
> from the goal of Self-realization that I so deeply yearn for.
If married life would distract youand you were not married
you would be distracted with something else.
> It pains me greatly to think of her in anguish.
It's *your* anguish* isn't it?
> I don´t want to let
> her go,
By all means let her go.(you can still stay with her if you choose)
> I´ll cherish her forever, but now I want to know All
> in the lap of Cosmic Consciousness.
Cherish All.(she is a part of All, no?)
> Thanks,
Your welcome.David
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 21:41:52 PDT
From: "j percyval" <percyval2ATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: re: GUILT & PUNISHMENT
Message-ID: <19980610044153.17366.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
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>Magne wrote:
>Dear Readers of these list ...
>I would love it if You could affirm daily:
> 1) I AM IMPORTANT. I AM THE MOST IMPORTANT PERSON IN MY WHOLE LIFE.
> 2) THE DIVINE (GOD) NEVER PUNISHES. FORGIVE YOURSELF AS
> YOU ARE ALLREADY FORGIVEN BY YOUR HIGH SELF
>I have noted on these list, that a certain person goes on and on
talking
>about "punishment", "superiority", "slaves". No one with spiritual
>understanding use such words.
this is very funny! i am a happy slave of Mystress Angelique...through
her playful domination of me, she has taught me to understand the same 2
points that Magne would love us to affirm daily (and much else that he
also says in this post)...
it seems therefore, that either what he is saying must not qualify as
"spiritual understanding"...or else he must have no understanding of how
some kinky and playful people toy with these three terrible words...
i wonder if this will make Magne laugh?
warmly,
john percyval
(who wonders who the certain person might be???)
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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 13:00:49 +0800
From: "Anne" <devatyATnospamic-net.com.au>
To: "Avatar Thyer" <thyerATnospamfreenet.grfn.org>
Cc: <Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: our very own avatar needs translating...
Message-Id: <199806100508.NAA02368ATnospamsaturn.ic-net.com.au>
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> From: Avatar Thyer <thyerATnospamfreenet.grfn.org>
> To: deliriumATnospamfull-moon.com; kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
> Subject: Re: our very own avatar needs translating...
> Date: Thursday, 11 June 1998 05:58
>
To me, Jesus is a true Avatar, a true I AM presence and he showed us all an
example of how to speak and teach the masses, by living with them, walking
among them. He also used the medium of parables, so that the 'ordinary' man
could understand his teachings and wisdom. He spoke to them at their own
level of education, of comprehension.
Sai Baba is another who's words I find easy to understand and benefit from.
> Judging me negatively based upon the way that I choose to pattern my
words
> is easy. Reading my writing for content without negatively judging my
> style requires being willing to put aside any prejudices fostered against
> me for writing differently than others. Looking deeper into what I am
> writing and comprehending my meaning requires being willing to read my
> writing with your own voice, rather than with the voice of some lofty,
> negative, Egotistical person
.I don't think he ever spent this much energy on defending Himself on how he
spoke and telling others it was their problem if they didn't
understand..not His problem of expressing himself..
> If you choose to read my writing slowly, and read it as if it is being
> written from a sincere person who is having fun with ordering words and
> meanings in the game of self-expression, the *apparent tone* my writing
> will sound much different than if you choose to read my writing as if I
am
> a dishonest person who is condescending to speak down to you from some
sort
> of dry, lofty perch.
He could have perched himself higher than all He spoke to, but chose
instead to use simple words, interesting stories and everyday language so
that all could benefit...I think He considered his wisdom too important to
'have fun' with...it was more important that people could understand what
he was trying to express, to teach..not what enjoyment he received out of
the 'game' of self expression.
> It's your choice.
And so it is your choice as to who can understand you correctly, who can
comprehend what you mean and so choose to learn from your words. If, as an
individual, I choose to learn.
Anne
>
> >
>
> I AM
> Avatar Thyer
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 17:00:08 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: david.bozziATnospamsnet.net
Cc: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Question ?
Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980609170008.009be430ATnospamdomin8rex.com>
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Yes indeedy.. I go looking for the explanations for something, Reason
scrying into the infinite can come up with a few dozen, easily.... they may
be contradictory, but they are ALL true because of limitless
manifestation.. yet, the reasons are really only the minds attempt to limit
and codify the experience.. what really IS, is vaster than reason can hold.
Being doesn't need a reason.... yet everything appears to have purpose.
BB, A.
At 11:27 AM 09/06/98 -0400, David Bozzi wrote:
> explaining something is not understanding.
>
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 19:11:24 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: b bah <happyhunaATnospamyahoo.com>
Cc: pmyersATnospammail.coin.missouri.edu, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com,
keutzerATnospameecs.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: yucky feelings
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At 03:00 PM 09/06/98 -0700, b bah wrote:
>
>
>hi pam, thank you
>for your post about the strange way you felt after participating in a
>healing(appropriate word?) circle.
> 'have had the same or similar feeling three times. i've entered
>the Berkeley Psyhic Institute feeling ggggreat,and upon leaving
>totally drained. this is where i took my first 2 healing classes,
>first two meditation classes, and an intuition class.
To pull you out of your victim mindset for a moment, it is my own
experience that sometimes healing work will bring up things to be cleared,
in the course of it's working that are experienced "yucky" on the way out..
like how terrible one can feel halfway thru a fast or cleansing.
You may feel tired because the energy you do have is diverted towards the
healing.. similar to how one can feel sleepy after a large meal because the
blood supply is diverted to digestion.
Since these were your first classes, you would have been clearer for the
later events, and so not had the same side effects. The body gets
accustomed to energy clearing after a while.
(shrug) The more healing work I do on someone, the more likely they are
to need a nap after. This is simply the mechanism their unconscious uses in
order to be able to make use of the energy without the limiting influence
of the conscious mind's interference.
Blessings, Mystress.
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 22:09:46 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: Avatar Thyer <thyerATnospamfreenet.grfn.org>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Words and Definitions
Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980609220946.009c6870ATnospamdomin8rex.com>
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Hello:
I have been observing the "attack dogs" "piranha feeding frenzy" on the
list, with some sadness, some bemusement, mostly great admiration for your
patience, humor and clarity.. and having observed the list for some time,
I can offer a third conclusion..
3) The list perception that the claiming of titles is an indication of
insanity or mental imbalance brought about by the effects of Kundalini..
the cure for which is perceive to be tearing the title away... like some
kind of cult deprogramming.. I am not a moonie, I am not a moonie...
The list, in best intentions (aaack!) is trying to "save" you from what
it perceives as a case of "Kundalini psychosis"... of which the
aforementioned "Dan Gallagher" most certainly was a prime candidate.
It is a "disorder" phenomena that happens with some Kundalites wherein
they begin to believe they are messiahs or somehow "chosen" messengers of
God...sometimes the results can be named as "David Koresh".
So you see, the list is trying to shoot you down, for your own good, so
that your wings won't melt.. LOL!
My own opinion is that a messianic phase is simply part of the evolution
of K. We are all Goddess, but some folks get stuck when they realize that's
who they are, and don't get as far as realizing everybody else is, too.. .
and everything.
However, I continue to refer to myself as Goddess manifest, anyways, and
eventually the list got tired of bugging me about it.
Having observed you longer than they have, I feel no need to test your
honesty or intentions. Far from finding you psychotic, I find you to be one
of the most honest, clear and consistently non judgmental spiritual people
I have ever met.
I honor the brilliant clarity of your light, and take joy in the subtext
of your humor.
When someone is writing from a spiritual pose that is not genuine I know
it.. no matter how eloquent they may be.
You are not. I recognize your writing style from some of my own work...
(which takes on many different styles) and it is someone who is using the
English language very carefully to communicate absolutely as clearly as
possible, while still realizing that clarity depends on the reception,
which comes of the perceptions of the reader.
What you are getting mirrored, is the fear of insanity that is carried
within many Kundalites, especially in those who awaken spontaneously and
spend time wondering about it before they find understanding. Which
represents a large population of this list..
I think of it as the legacy of Gopi Krishna..
Ironically, one of the purposes of the list's existence is to be a
support group to reassure each other of our sanity while undergoing this
enormously bizarre process. How it got from that ideal to "shred the odd
people", I dunno.
Blessings, Mystress.
At 08:11 PM 10/06/98 -0400, Avatar Thyer wrote:
>Greetings.
<<....>
>Yes, it obviously is. My tentative conclusion is that this is the result
>of two things:
>
>1. individuals who have entitled their selves in an attempt to establish
>their superiority over those who they judge as unworthy of their title; and
>
>2. social programming that encourages us to think that a title is an
>indication of hierarchial status.
>
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 17:22:09 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic.net>
Cc: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: too damned many posts lately and manipura
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At 12:00 PM 09/06/98 -0500, Ann Morrison Fisher wrote:
>Ann:
>There's still a problem. According to what I read, when a man does it, he
>puts one heel beneath the genitals and the other on top of them. I think
>it's done to raise the energies while having some measure of control.
>
>You can try to think of something comparable, girls, but we can't do THAT!!
>:))))
>
For a male, putting one heel beneath the genitals puts pressure on the
prostrate gland.. the male G-spot... this is pleasurable but tends to
interrupt ejaculation when done correctly. Pushing down the genitals
increases the illusion of the hermaphroditic "sacred marriage", and keeping
the testicles pulled down away from the body is another male extended
orgasm technique.. in most males it prevents ejaculation. Combined with a
bit of serpent-dance swaying.. they're off to the races.
Acts of Love and Pleasure serve..
Woman are already set up to gain energy from orgasm, rather than lose it,
and are already potentially multiorgasmic, so we don't need the circus
contortionist tricks.. (giggle)
Just sit on a swaying bus with legs crossed.. holding the belly muscles
in enough to press down on the G-spot. Try not to be too noisy, if it is a
crowded bus.
Men do not have belly muscles as we do.. they cannot orgasm from belly
dancing.. well, from watching it, maybe.. (giggle)
Blessings, Mystress.
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 23:47:02 PDT
From: "Paul Torres" <island_11ATnospamhotmail.com>
To: david.bozziATnospamsnet.net, serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Question ?
Message-ID: <19980610064704.12611.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
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Thank you for the e-mail. I was hoping for another opinion on my
experience, to look for possibilities that I may have missed in my
interpretations. I think that I was given a taste of something from my
possible future, and being that I could only see what seemed to be outer
space, I must develop myself to a greater degree so that next time that
this happens I will be ready to observe even more, and my comprehension
of the situation will be mush more informed.
As far as powers go, I use intuition to help those with problems with
various forms of depressions, from bi-polar to schitzo problematic
personalities. I do not believe that in the case of the latter the
correct diagnosis from his counselor was made, but it allows me to
classify his problems to an extent for you.
I also in my spare time apply my knowledge of science to psychic and
extra-sensory beliefs. I believe that all of these phenomenon can be
explained in the near future, and their nature can be explained in
common terminology. From my readings there are so many feasable
explainations for these occurences that I cannot see how people can
reject these things. (If one would like I could go on, but that must
be in another e-mail.)
As for if I want that to happen that is another story. I believe
that this course of study could lead to the loss of the true meaning of
these things, and one's personal journey will become too public to be of
benefit. I do believe that in a certain environment this knowledge might
just be able to benefit humanity, but as with all scientific discovery
there will always be a price paid for ignorant actions taken on newly
acquired postulates.
I am a self proclaimed expert on myself, my self, my reality, and my
universe. I have on occasion read someone's thoughts, not much, a
sentence or so. I used to read emotions more often than I do now. I
have moved towards reading impressions and surrounding influences. This
has led me towards mindreading again. I do not claim that I can read
minds, but I am a fairly good read of people. I cannot even prove this
to anyone because most people do not like to hear what I have to say.
It hurts too much, or is too embarrassing to bring up. For convienience
I keep my readings to myself. I have had a few out of body experiences.
Many of them were enjoyable, but confusing.
I hope that this gives you a better insight into me, please give me your
opinions on anything that I have written, constructive criticism is
welcome. So is the non-constructive kind.
Philosophically yours,
Paul Thank you for the e-mail. I was hoping for another opinion on my
experience, to look for possibilities that I may have missed in my
interpretations. I think that I was given a taste of something from my
possible future, and being that I could only see what seemed to be outer
space, I must develop myself to a greater degree so that next time that
this happens I will be ready to observe even more, and my comprehension
of the situation will be mush more informed.
As far as powers go, I use intuition to help those with problems with
various forms of depressions, from bi-polar to schitzo problematic
personalities. I do not believe that in the case of the latter the
correct diagnosis from his counselor was made, but it allows me to
classify his problems to an extent for you.
I also in my spare time apply my knowledge of science to psychic and
extra-sensory beliefs. I believe that all of these phenomenon can be
explained in the near future, and their nature can be explained in
common terminology. From my readings there are so many feasable
explainations for these occurences that I cannot see how people can
reject these things. (If one would like I could go on, but that must
be in another e-mail.)
As for if I want that to happen that is another story. I believe
that this course of study could lead to the loss of the true meaning of
these things, and one's personal journey will become too public to be of
benefit. I do believe that in a certain environment this knowledge might
just be able to benefit humanity, but as with all scientific discovery
there will always be a price paid for ignorant actions taken on newly
acquired postulates.
I am a self proclaimed expert on myself, my self, my reality, and my
universe. I have on occasion read someone's thoughts, not much, a
sentence or so. I used to read emotions more often than I do now. I
have moved towards reading impressions and surrounding influences. This
has led me towards mindreading again. I do not claim that I can read
minds, but I am a fairly good read of people. I cannot even prove this
to anyone because most people do not like to hear what I have to say.
It hurts too much, or is too embarrassing to bring up. For convienience
I keep my readings to myself. I have had a few out of body experiences.
Many of them were enjoyable, but confusing.
I hope that this gives you a better insight into me, please give me your
opinions on anything that I have written, constructive criticism is
welcome. So is the non-constructive kind.
Philosophically yours,
Paul
P.S.
Thank you mystress, I have for long hours conversed about the
impossilbity of finding out the truth about actuality. I have come to
the decision that I must do all that I can do to learn as much as I can.
The reason is because a finite being can never understand infinity, but
seeing as how there are an infinite amount of spatial incriments between
my neurons, I hope that one day I may find some sort of answer for my
questions. Disregarding my fear of being labled christian, I am about
to quote St. Paul before he was taken to his execution. When he was
asked why he did not resist being put to death, he simply said
(something like), " my time has come, I have fought the good fight. " I
apologize for a possible misquote, but I want to be able to say this
about my own life at the moment of my death.
As you can all see I can be long-winded also. I apologize.
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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:32:36 +0530 (IST)
From: Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in>
To: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
cc: janpa tsomo <j_tsomoATnospamhotmail.com>, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com,
kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: The feet question
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.93.980610123143.17644A-100000ATnospamBhaskara>
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We were advised by our GURUDEV to do meditation only in full lotus
position.
Love,
Anurag
On Tue, 9 Jun 1998 amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us wrote:
> <X-No-Archive: yes>
>
> >and no one answered my feet question either...why does full lotus cause
> >a energy-upward sensation? weird....
> >
> >--janpa
>
> I get this sensation too, but I don't meditate.... so I can't relate to
> "full lotus"...For me it seems to be hormonal... I get energy rushes from
> the soles of my feet during sex... And smaller tingles during certain
> phases of my personal month, just sitting at my computer, etc.....I once
> had an urge to stick my hands into the soles of my feet... as if there were
> deep creases there... it gives me chills and an energy rush right up to my
> head just thinking about it...
>
> amckeon
> (someone had to answer... even if it's the wrong answer...)
>
>
>
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:12:37 +0530 (IST)
From: Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in>
To: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
cc: janpa tsomo <j_tsomoATnospamhotmail.com>, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com,
kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: The feet question
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.93.980610120454.16800C-100000ATnospamBhaskara>
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Janpa it's true that full lotus position causes a energy-upward
sensation.the mind becomes more stabalized.I think that The back keeps
straight without much conscious effort of keeping it straight.
i think that position of Padama-asana ( full lotus) affects the nerves
relating the Muladhar Chakra in a positive way. Also it is recommended
that one's ASANA should be atleast 2 inches thick so that energy doesn't
go to earth.
Love,
Anurag
On Tue, 9
Jun 1998 amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us wrote:
> <X-No-Archive: yes>
>
> >and no one answered my feet question either...why does full lotus cause
> >a energy-upward sensation? weird....
> >
> >--janpa
>
> I get this sensation too, but I don't meditate.... so I can't relate to
> "full lotus"...For me it seems to be hormonal... I get energy rushes from
> the soles of my feet during sex... And smaller tingles during certain
> phases of my personal month, just sitting at my computer, etc.....I once
> had an urge to stick my hands into the soles of my feet... as if there were
> deep creases there... it gives me chills and an energy rush right up to my
> head just thinking about it...
>
> amckeon
> (someone had to answer... even if it's the wrong answer...)
>
>
>
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