1998/06/06 01:01
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #429
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 429
Today's Topics:
Re: Moving the list.. was Re: Barbie [ "Larry Schmitz" <taniaATnospamcentroin.com ]
Re: Dear Barbie [ Pamela Ruigh <ruighATnospamyahoo.com> ]
Re: Dear Barbie [ MMeyers541ATnospamaol.com ]
Re: kundalini and spam [ Delirium <deliriumATnospamfull-moon.com> ]
Re: AutoPost from BBC [ Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iis ]
shoulder/trapezious muscles sensatio [ "b bah" <happyhunaATnospamhotmail.com> ]
Re: Getting started [ Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com ]
Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource [ MMeyers541ATnospamaol.com ]
Book Recommendation [ MMeyers541ATnospamaol.com ]
AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Cen [ Lucius Fishburne <luciusATnospamsccoast.ne ]
Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
why bother moving? [ Mary Ezzell <maryATnospamsonic.net> ]
Re: Pakistan [ "MARIE THERRIEN" <marietherrienATnospamspr ]
Re: Moving the list.. was Re: Barbie [ Dracos <dracosATnospaminficad.com> ]
barbie and lies and bbc [ James Paterson <rockyATnospamww.co.nz> ]
Re: Getting started [ Mary Ezzell <maryATnospamsonic.net> ]
Re: moving the list [ "Joseph Miller" <joemillerATnospamhotmail. ]
Re: Barbie [ "Ed Arrons" <eeaATnospamaug.com> ]
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 21:36:48 -0300
From: "Larry Schmitz" <taniaATnospamcentroin.com.br>
To: "jb" <hc19436ATnospamautovia.com>, <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>,
"Mystress Angelique Serpent" <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
Subject: Re: Moving the list.. was Re: Barbie
Message-ID: <01bd90e3$30d84e20$6539e1c8ATnospamlarry>
Content-Type: multipart/mixed;
boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0057_01BD90CA.0B8B1620"
Jan,
I live in Rio. If I were a spammer, how would US Law touch me?
International courts,
come on, now.
I think we have to grin & bare it.
Larry Schmitz
-----Original Message-----
From: jb <hc19436ATnospamautovia.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>; Mystress
Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
Date: Friday, June 05, 1998 9:19 PM
Subject: RE: Moving the list.. was Re: Barbie
>Mystress wrote:
>> Moving the list to majordomo will help a little.. I have postponed
doing
>> it coz it is a hassle for everyone.. even updating the links
>> everywhere..
>> Sigh.. slave to Goddess.. off I got to Esosoft to move the
>> list.. updates
>> to follow..
>> any objections??
>> Blessings List Mystresssslave Serpent...
>> crawling off on my belly to hide from spammer technology..
>
>In principle, spammers can invade everywhere, so moving the list won't be a
>solution. Until now it hasn't been so bad. IMO a better solution could be
to
>change the rules and prohibit spamming explicitly (tresspassers will be
>fined say, $50.000, if US law permits it). Any unrecognized E-mail address
>could be replied to with a copy of the regulations and the owner of the
mail
>has to agree before mail is passed to the server. As this process can be
>automated, it won't mean extra work to maintain the list and a member once
>in a while posting from somewhere else won't object if the copy of the
rules
>is sent without delay.
>
>Jan
>
>
>
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Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 17:38:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: Pamela Ruigh <ruighATnospamyahoo.com>
To: Jack <sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net>, oreaATnospamerols.com,
kl List <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Dear Barbie
Message-ID: <19980606003853.22894.rocketmailATnospamsend1d.yahoomail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
It is sad that who ever Barbie is has the need to put out this kind of
vibration. If he/she really feels the kundalini all that concern
would vanish as the love of the divine replaced such grossness. One
kiss from the Divine Lover and whoosh. In Songs of Mirabai
one can read this poem: Come, O aloof one, a glimpse of your body has
caught me. My name? Call me the girl whom separation drove mad.
Night and day there's a fish thrashing next to the water--servant Mira
dies at your feet, and she calls you the Giver of Joy." from FOR THE
LOVE OF THE DARK ONE
translated by Andrew Schelling
I
---Orea de Sa' Hana wrote:
>
> Thanks for putting it all in perspective, Jack! I just realized that
> complete innocence is a potent protection from the uglies that get
> shoved in our faces. Hopefully "Barbie" will grow up and find
something
> better to do with her time. Although now that I think of it, my
Barbie
> dolls haven't aged a bit in 35 years. Must have a good plastic
surgeon.
>
> Orea
>
>
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Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 20:45:59 EDT
From: MMeyers541ATnospamaol.com
To: sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Dear Barbie
Message-ID: <ccb127ca.35789148ATnospamaol.com>
Well Jack,
You just may have succeeded in getting Barbie off (the list).
LOL!!!!
Michele
Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 19:51:23 +0100
From: Delirium <deliriumATnospamfull-moon.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: kundalini and spam
Message-ID: <35783E25.5F7CF0ABATnospamfull-moon.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353"
Yummy!
But seriously...the spam only shows how valuable the *un-spam* (most of
what is posted) is!
I've seen maybe four spam posts in the time I've been subscribed, so I
say stay, don't change it, it ain't broke!
--Kath
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 06:30:35 +0530 (IST)
From: Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in>
To: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: AutoPost from BBC
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.93.980606062930.17915A-100000ATnospamBhaskara>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Well said !!!
Anurag
On Fri, 5 Jun 1998, Mystress Angelique Serpent wrote:
> At 06:03 AM 05/06/98 -1000, Jackie Laughton wrote:
> >I work for the BBC and we're making a documentary which will cover
> Kundalini yoga.
> <...>. We would like to film the more extreme form where practioners are
> able to get themselves into extraordinary contortionist positions.
> >
> BBC... oh, I get it.. Barnum\ Bailey Circus!!
> Are you looking for some sword swallowers also??
> Perhaps Barbie can help.. :)
> Blessings, Mystress.
>
> Mystress Angelique Serpent,
> Dominant Experiential Facilitator.
> Website= http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent
> :D ;) :0 :) ;P :0 ;) :D :0 :) ;P :0 ;) :)
> I would rather live in a world where my life is surrounded by mystery
> than live in a world so small that my mind could comprehend it.
> -- Harry Emerson Fosdick
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Vancouver, B.C., Canada. Officially the most beautiful city in the world.
>
>
Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 18:32:27 PDT
From: "b bah" <happyhunaATnospamhotmail.com>
To: MoonDghtrATnospamaol.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: shoulder/trapezious muscles sensations
Message-ID: <19980606013227.27140.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain
Hi,Moon Daughter,
I think you are experienceing what I call "warm fuzzies".
"Isn't it delightfull?, la,la,la,la,la." Pity this keyboard doesn't have
a music -note key.
Aloha, barb
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Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 21:46:06 EDT
From: Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com
To: hc19436ATnospamautovia.com, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com,
anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in
Subject: Re: Getting started
Message-ID: <271a2556.35789f60ATnospamaol.com>
In a message dated 6/5/1998 5:19:45 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
hc19436ATnospamautovia.com writes:
<< These
practices are a kind of balancing on a razor's edge: with astral travel,
fear of breaking the cord or falling asleep - with lucid dreaming, the
thinking process has to be kept both going and controlled, else lucid
dreaming changes into a "normal" dream or one wakes up. When these things
come as a side-effect of one's spiritual practice, they are nice, but
compared to experience of Self, they are mere toys. If one wants to make an
effort, the practice of dream-yoga is useful in meditation and will enable
lucid dreaming.
Jan >>
Harsha: I am in complete agreement with Jan. When supramental and
superconscious states come as a normal part of spiritual practice that is
fine. When one engages in particular practices to induce various types of
psychic abilities or experiences, it simply is a waste of energy and distracts
from the real goal. Indeed, as Jan notes, compared to the experience and
knowledge of the Self, astral travel and various other abilities are
absolutely trivial. Spiritual novices often boast of their "psychic"
abilities (mostly imagined), etc., and create a hoopla. Hankering and craving
after such things reveals only a superficial understanding of what is
important in life. Company of Sages is important in helping to distinguish
between that which is essential and that which is transient and unreal.
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 22:41:23 EDT
From: MMeyers541ATnospamaol.com
To: david.mizrachiATnospamusa.net
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
Message-ID: <711b08fb.3578ac55ATnospamaol.com>
In a message dated 98-06-05 14:23:08 EDT, you write:
<< It's almost as if Kundalini meditations were designed to abuse the
circulation of the energy in the body, thus causing side effects.
These side effects, make people mistakenly believe they are
experiencing some sort of an enlightenment.
>>Dear David, I'm afraid I have to disagree with you. I'd done vitually no
meditation my entire life until I did MAS's grounding meditations. In just 2
weeks, besides moving a lot of heat up & out of the crown of my head, and one
night of extreme neck pain which was instantly relieved by acupuncture, I
released literally years of accumulated body pain...& who's to confirm whether
or not enlightenment has occurred in ANYONE as a result of K moving thru the
body. It's a very individual path/experience. Take care, Michele
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 23:05:10 EDT
From: MMeyers541ATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Book Recommendation
Message-ID: <96aea105.3578b1e8ATnospamaol.com>
Dear List,
I've spent the last few evenings re-reading a fascinating book, "Journey of
Souls - Case Studies of Life Between Lives" by Michael Newton, Ph.D. (ISBN
1-56718-485-5). If, after reading this book, ANYONE says they are afraid of
death, I'd be interested in hearing WHY from you. It also has helped me to
clarify what are my own life's lessons & purpose on this planet. Here's some
info from the back cover:
"While in a state of deep hypnosis, 29 people recalled their experiences
between lives as eternal spirits. Through their extraordinary stories, you
will learn specifics about:
- How it feels to die
- What you see and feel right after death
- Spiritual guides
- What happens to "disturbed" souls
- Why you are assigned to certain soul groups in the spirit world and what you
do there
- How you choose another body to return to Earth
- Different levels of souls: beginning, intermediate and advanced
- When and where you first learn to recognize soulmates on Earth
- The purpose of life and manifestations of a 'creator'..."
Enjoy! Michele
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 17:21:07 -1000 (HST)
From: Lucius Fishburne <luciusATnospamsccoast.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
Message-Id: <199806060321.RAA27120ATnospamhaleakala.aloha.net>
The initial "eruption" included waves of violent spasms and animal-like screaming.Later my body would would contort/posture into christ on the cross, a bird flying, an indian chanting,child sexual abuse reenactments,and more. Then I was able to converse with what appeared to be some kind of satanic entity in mr. I got real scared and more or less have not allowed these experiences since then.I still have a metalic taste in my mouth, feelings like a snake in my abdomen, and hear music at times.There's more but I wo0uld really appreciate it if someone can advise me regarding whether this sounds like Kundalini. Thankyou. Lucius
Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 21:25:49 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: luciusATnospamsccoast.net
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980605212549.009b0c00ATnospamdomin8rex.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
At 05:21 PM 05/06/98 -1000, Lucius Fishburne wrote:
>The initial "eruption" included waves of violent spasms and animal-like
screaming.Later my body would would contort/posture into christ on the
cross, a bird flying, an indian chanting,child sexual abuse
reenactments,and more. Then I was able to converse with what appeared to be
some kind of satanic entity in mr. I got real scared and more or less have
not allowed these experiences since then.I still have a metalic taste in my
mouth, feelings like a snake in my abdomen, and hear music at times.There's
more but I would really appreciate it if someone can advise me regarding
whether this sounds like Kundalini. Thankyou. Lucius
Your post made me giggle.. I am not laughing at you, but at myself.. I
have had a few odd chats with things in my mirror also..
Sounds like K. to me.. the entity in the mirror is an aspect of your own
unconscious self, testing you to see if your ego gives it love or fear..
whether you choose to act in judgment.. well, go figger, if you're gonna
learn unconditional love, at some point you are gonna have to learn to love
your dark bits too.. and they do act in your highest good.. Love is all
there is.
Resisting the K. is a path to nightmare land.. and I suspect hat is the
"more" you are not mentioning..
step one is to get grounded, and in touch with spirit in your heart..
there you will have all your questions answered..
Do the grounding..
The grounding visualization for awakening Kundalini is at
http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent/ground.htm
Please visit this page when you have 20 minutes to relax
and do the meditation, as the page is "charged" with Shakti
and keyed to be released by your free will choice to visit the page.
Blessings, Mystress.
Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 20:52:31 -0700
From: Mary Ezzell <maryATnospamsonic.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com,
Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
Subject: why bother moving?
Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980605205225.00c18884ATnospampop.sonic.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
I haven't seen much spam either, maybe one post.
Doesn't seem worth the hassle of moving, and they'd probably get into the
new location too. Seems easier to deal with the spam than with people's
subscriptions maybe getting messed up etc.
Why don't we all get togther on a new spell? :-)
Anyway probably some new anti-spam program will come along, too.
Mary
At 07:51 PM 6/5/98 +0100, Delirium wrote:
>I've seen maybe four spam posts in the time I've been subscribed, so I
>say stay, don't change it, it ain't broke!
>
>--Kath
>
>
>
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 22:07:39 -0700
From: "MARIE THERRIEN" <marietherrienATnospamsprint.ca>
To: <fluteATnospamtexas.net>, <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Pakistan
Message-Id: <199806060510.BAA21433ATnospamhme0.mailrouter01.sprint.ca>
Hello, I very enjoy the interesting news that I didn't know regarding
different countries. Le me know more is facinating to see the end of the
world -- all that suffering gone. Bye Lindamary.
----------
> From: flute <fluteATnospamtexas.net>
> To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
> Subject: Pakistan
> Date: Wednesday, June 03, 1998 6:03 AM
>
> ok.. open your mind just a tad on the pakistan thing and forget that you
> believe that American is the world gatekeeper.
> India fired off missels, then Pakistan just proved that they can fire
> off missels on the Afgan border..
> ..Did anyone notice that there was a massive Earthquake in Afganistan??
> and just after the blast.. Now we know there is a fault line there..
> ..Did anyone notice that China isn't saying a thing. Don't ever
> underestimate China.. They are waiting and watching and as a psychic I'm
> telling you.. China will clean their clock before Congress wakes up, if
> the two third world countries escalate more. Then we will have a true
> power.. China to deal with.
> Right now their stock market is giving them problems.. from 20,000 to
> 8,000 since Hong Kong was returned.. However.. Watch out World..
> We have a very slow moving country for Justice because we get to lost in
> the human rights issues. A country that is overpopulated may not have
> those limitations..
> ALSO..Americans don't realize that other countries think very
> differently. My friend is Iranian and says.. You kill someone because
> you are driving drunk and the *police*(whatever the name is for it) pull
> you over, have you step out of the car and shoot you right there. Iran
> isn't the only country to work that way.
> Love,
> flute
Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 17:59:28 -0700
From: Dracos <dracosATnospaminficad.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Moving the list.. was Re: Barbie
Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980605175928.007d47d0ATnospammail.inficad.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
I know it's off topic for this list, but I had to respond.
Myself and the hacker friends I have have devised a way to deal with OOC
(out of country) people, sites, and e-mail addresses that violate US laws
and/or our morals (ie. kiddie porn). It's called WinNuke, or Portf**k, or
Avalanche, the list goes on. You see the underground community on the
internet can deal with any threat, anywhere in the world, any time.
At 09:36 PM 6/5/98 -0300, you wrote:
>Jan,
>I live in Rio. If I were a spammer, how would US Law touch me?
>International courts,
>come on, now.
>
>I think we have to grin & bare it.
>
>Larry Schmitz
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Date: Sat, 06 Jun 1998 18:31:49
From: James Paterson <rockyATnospamww.co.nz>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: barbie and lies and bbc
Message-Id: <3.0.2.16.19980606183149.2c17612aATnospamww.co.nz>
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Speaking of lies I think barbie is a lie designed to add the email
addresses, of any one who replies to it, to lists that advertise porn.
If the spam sucks you into reacting perhaps there is something
to learn. Certainly it got some reaction from me. (lots to learn!)
Lately, 4 uses of the delete key would made it a none event.
As to the BBC making documentaries, they are normally less
sensationalist than most others. Perhaps if someone helps them
with this a positive message about K can be promulgated along with
the entertainment.
I see this list as a kind if dialect. It lets you consider
different opinions and things that you may have not considered.
Certainly since I have been on the list have I come to respect
the opinions and utterances of certain people. E.g. Jan Harsha etc
I miss lobsters jokes a little - I wondered what had happened to him
best rocky
Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 22:47:38 -0700
From: Mary Ezzell <maryATnospamsonic.net>
To: "Kyriacos N Neocleous" <kyriacosATnospamcyberdude.com>, <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Getting started
Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980605224430.00ac1070ATnospampop.sonic.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Dear Astric,
I'm not surprised you unsubscribed, considering the answers you got. :-(
Hm, I wonder if there's some confusion about the word 'kundalini'.
Here are some different ways it is used:
1. 'Kundalini energy' -- which rises from base of spine to crown of head
2. 'Kundalini yoga' -- techniques for
A. opening/clearing the chakras to prepare a path for the energy
B. awakening the energy and getting it started upwards
3. 'Kundalini experiences', symptoms, awakening -- the experinces people
have which often accompany the rising of the kundalini energy.
You wrote:
<<<<<<
I read a book "Treatise on Astral
Projection" by Robert Bruce in which I found an elementary technique for
opening the chakras before attempting projection and that's how I became
interested in the subject.
>>>>>>
There are lots of techniques for 'opening the chakras' as *preparation* for
kundalini, too. Kundalini is an energy which (often spontaneiously) rises
through the body/subtle-body, and so it is recommended to have the chakras
clear and open first, to give her an unobstructed path. (If she does find
obstructions, she can clear them herself, but sometimes taht is a little
rough.)
Is it possible that Bruce was talking about 2.A, techniques to clear the
chakras, and termed them 'kundalini yoga'? IE that he wasn't recommending
*awakening* kundalini for astral travel, but just doing some of those same
clearings? This would make sense. (Tho of course if kundalini does awaken,
she would be a great help toward flying. )
Personally, the little astral projection I've done, has mostly been in
'Theta' state, just between sleep and waking. Usually around dawn.
Wonderful times of getting up and *walking*, tho lighter than usual, in a
wonderful world of ancestors... Sensation of waking from the dream of
normal earth.
Occasionally something quite different, flying in clouds after illness.
(Suspect this is an illusion, still in body just with different labels on
sensations. Breathing feels like flying, etc.)
Often in dreams, 'dream of flying' etc. Comes by inbreath, similar to in
swimming, breathe deep and float to top of water. Pranayama helps.
I'd say kundalini was a help, to this as to many things. Clears channels,
clears preconceptions. Helps me get ready to do all sorts of unusual,
creative, psychic or artistic things. Some people see K as a goddess, a
companion. This can be very reassuring when doing unusual things. :-) If I
went astral flying and got scared, I'd feel safer now that I know how to
call on Her.
I'd not do exercises designed to 'force' kundalini to waken (for any
purpose or 'enlightenment' either). Forcing seems harsh, harmful. But if
something is leading you to be interested in kundalini, and to want books
about it ... well, that's probably your own heart telling you something
useful.
Same re astral projection. If you feel an interest in it, there is probably
some good reason behind that feeling. It would probably be very good for
you to pursue it. (Just not with any harsh methods, or anything that feels
uncomfortable.)
If you feel K and projection are connected ... then for you they may be.
Btw I agree with whoever said it should be 'flying' rather than
'projection'. 'Projection' suggests that you stay here and
project=throw/push something out. But really it feels like flying out,
leaving the body here.
Have you read Stewart Edward White's THE BETTY BOOK? It was about an
American lady who did a lot of visits to the astral world.
You might also read Muktananda's PLAY OF CONSCIOUSNESS. I dont' remember if
he astral traveled in there, but he did nearly everything. :-) It sort of
puts the kundalini thing in perspective, in case you get any odd effects
from K. I remember one story someone told about Muktananda. She had often
started to astral travel in dreams, but was scared and drew back. Then she
was staying in his ashram (second floor), and had that dream, but this time
she saw him floating outside the window, holding out his hands and saying
"One, two, three, fly!" So she tried it, and after that she could do it any
time. I think Ram DASs or ADam SMith reported flying in dreams too, and
some guru approving of it. My own guru gave workshops in it too (tho I
didn't do very well :-).
IMO there is a cultural difference between India and the west. There people
are raised believing in yoga and all sorts of spiritual things. So they
don't need psychic experiences as much as we westerners do, in order to
believe it is all real. Some early Muktananda material talks about this
too. He called his way "Siddha Yoga" -- some association with
siddhe=psychic power. Such 'siddhe's were road-signs, ways to know that the
meditation was really doing something....
Hm, I do some of my best pranayama in the deep end of the swimming pool. My
body rising or dunking is good bio-feedback to exactly what my breath is
doing. (Helps concentratin, too. :-) Some kinds of astral travel may also
depend on breath, so may also be feedback and help people get ready for
pranayama. Or just good exercise for the astral body. (Does it breathe too,
when out of the physical body?)
Still, there's no rule that "Kundalini is for Enlightenment Use Only". :-)
That would be trying to harness her to work, forcing her into a mold, a
preconceived idea....
Like Angelique, I mostly get flashes of being in some other space, or
seeing into it while staying in my body (like opening a window to a
different world, the air and birds come in :-). Wish it would slow down and
do the cord and all that -- it would be easier to take seriously.
Good luck, email me if you like,
Mary
At 05:21 PM 6/3/98 +0300, Kyriacos N Neocleous wrote:
/snip/
>Karl Lusink "Essential Introduction to Kundalini Yoga"
>
>Gavin Frost, Yvonne Frost "Tantric Yoga : The Royal Path to Raising
>Kundalini Power"
I don't know those books. ARthur Avalon's SERPENT POWER is pretty good, I
think.
Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 23:46:40 PDT
From: "Joseph Miller" <joemillerATnospamhotmail.com>
To: serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: moving the list
Message-ID: <19980606064640.5206.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
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>>Also, as I recall from other lists, majordomo handles the list version
>>differently, read that as much better. I believe it actually compiles
>>the digest version as one long message rather than the heading letter
>
> So does this one.. that's how everybody else gets it..
> Joe, You are getting the Hotmail advertising surprise package.. they
>are splitting up your digest into separate posts to allow them to send
you
>more spam.. one advert per post, right??
No. I read it all as one item. Only one obnoxus blinking ad (that is not
a euphamism, it really blinks) at the bottom of the screen for the
entire digest. And ...duh... if the posts are ...duh... split, it isn't
a digest... duh... is it?
The explination that it is a letter with a bunch of attachments was
posted sometime back by someone else, not on hotmail. No one said they
were wrong and I assumed they were right because that would fit the
symptoms. This list is the only one that I don't have to delete a ton
from when I hit "Reply" because it doesn't copy over any of the posts.
Don't know why it could be at hotmail's end anyway. If the digest comes
as one piece, as I mentioned other lists have come to me that way, how
would hotmail know where to split the digest? I use their system,
believe me from the programming I've seen, they couldn't write a decent
splitting program.
If they could before, they must have all lost about 20 IQ points from
that part of their brain that does programming recently. Microsoft just
bought them and if Microsoft ever had a decent programmer they've never
let him/her work on a product they've released (unless it was a game).
(Hence all the Microsoft jokes: What's the most used Win95 utility?
Answer: Scan disk. Microsoft's motto: "Microsoft, where quality is job
1.0, OK its 1.1, well 3.0, no 3.1, really 3.11, ...... whenever")
> Or get a real email address.. they are fun. I have um.. let's see..
with
>all the lists and servers and domains..
I have them but frankly I only want on my hard disk things I want to
keep. When I see something on the list or other mail I do want to keep I
forward it to my POP3 account. With a non-POP3 I can check in at home,
at the public library, at a friend's house, and since we are being
honest, once or twice, at work. And I leave less on the system than a
POP3 would, not to mention when I want the message it is where I am (in
the virtual sense) not on the machine at the library, the friend's
house, or where I was last time. That is unless I checked all those POP3
readers and made sure the were set to "Leave mail on server", assuming
that was an option on that reader. (Yes I am a net junkie.)
> Mebbie we oughta use the K-phenomena list, which is sitting mostly
idle,
>to discuss the phenomena of K-list spam humor.. :)
What K-phenomena list?
Namaste,
Joe
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Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 02:56:19 -0400
From: "Ed Arrons" <eeaATnospamaug.com>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: Barbie
Message-Id: <199806060656.CAA26984ATnospamsandia.aug.com>
The recent 'spam' leaves me wondering why Barbie's K
awakening or disturbance would be considered/judged more
from the moral/ethical perspective than from the spiritual
growth point of view.
It seems to me that pornography results from the perceptual
conditioning process which divides the human body into parts,
from not 'seeing' the whole person.
Perhaps Barbie....and some of us....need some help with this.
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