1998/06/04 21:58
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #426
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 426
Today's Topics:
Re: Pakistan*psychics* [ valerie cooper <madammumATnospamptialaska. ]
kundalini [ ahmad elkot <ameATnospammindspring.com> ]
Re: Apology and question [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
Re: DYI K-awakening is asking for it [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
Re: kundalini [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
Re: Getting Started [ hnielsenATnospamms-dan.dk ]
identified subject [ "Lobster" <lobsterATnospamdial.pipex.com> ]
Re: On Our Own [ "Jose Arroyo" <jm_arroyoATnospamhotmail.co ]
RE: Pakistan [ "jb" <hc19436ATnospamautovia.com> ]
RE: kundalini [ "jb" <hc19436ATnospamautovia.com> ]
Re: new member [ "Jose Arroyo" <jm_arroyoATnospamhotmail.co ]
Re: Nadis - The Upanishads, Heart, a [ Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com ]
RE: DYI K-awakening is asking for it [ Mike Stickles <msticklesATnospamaurum.com> ]
Re: Pakistan*psychics* [ sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net (Jack) ]
SELF-realization was (Re: AutoPost f [ "Dan Margolis" <Dan_MargolisATnospamabm.co ]
Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource [ "Joseph Miller" <joemillerATnospamhotmail. ]
Re: Getting Started [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
July Hinduism Today [ "Joseph Miller" <joemillerATnospamhotmail. ]
Re: Pakistan*psychics* [ valerie cooper <madammumATnospamptialaska. ]
06/04/98 [ barbie_aATnospamhotmail.com ]
Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 20:51:12 +0000
From: valerie cooper <madammumATnospamptialaska.net>
To: Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com
CC: sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Pakistan*psychics*
Message-ID: <3575B733.274DATnospamptialaska.net>
Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com wrote:
>
> In a message dated 6/3/1998 10:46:44 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
> sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net writes:
>
> << I believe that prophecies are lucky guesses. Not one 'seer' in human
> history has been shown to be 100% right 100% of the time, the reality
> is a far cry from 100%. You get lucky once and the next thing you
> know, your a psychic.>>
>
> Harsha: Well put Jack! There are many self proclaimed psychics on this list. I
> don't see anyone winning the big lotto yet:--). Sorry, I could not resist.
psychic abilities are spiritual *gifts*, which means the motivations
driving the person with the abilities plays a *big* part in the validity
of the impressions. Money is not a pure enough motivation.
Question people's motivations & needs to identify with a catagorization,
& after all the chaff is sorted through perhaps a few might be left who
are worthy of the title. They probably are not out trumpetting their
abilities, or even very consciously aware of it themselves, much less
taking money to 'read fortunes'.
Most of them windbags are lucky to be regarded as 'lucky guessers',
imho!
vc
:-)
******
A conclusion is simply the place where you got tired of thinking.
Valerie Cooper * http://geocities.com/SoHo/7982/
Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 00:49:31 -0700
From: ahmad elkot <ameATnospammindspring.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: kundalini
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hi
I wonder if the sexual way is the only way to awaken kundalini, and if
you make love with another practisioner what about ethics and morals.
Like I heard that when you have sex with someone your energies get mixed
together so you become married in the eyes of god.
someone who wants to awaken his
kundalini(a seaker)
Ps I'm using my cousines e-mail
Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 20:33:40 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: MoonDghtrATnospamaol.com
Cc: melintonATnospamalison.sbc.edu, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Apology and question
Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980603203340.00982780ATnospamdomin8rex.com>
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Well, well, well.. when I was getting hand pains this winter first the
right hand then the left also.. I blamed it on Carpal Tunnel syndrome. I
was getting painful spasms when I turned a doorknob or opened a jar. Seemed
like a pinched nerve, to me.
It went away after I moved, but the pinkie and outer hand numbness came
one day when I was using a new logitech track ball that requires a lot of
thumb action. Switched to a wacom tablet and pen, and it's fine.
Shoulder blade pains.. yes.. but not recently.. except if I am busy
cutting out a sewing project on the floor for a long time.. bad posture.
also itching shoulder blades. wings, yes.. :)
So have you noticed a sweet smelling flower opened above each breast,
yet??
Blessings, Mystress.
At 07:27 PM 03/06/98 EDT, MoonDghtrATnospamaol.com wrote:
> <<There is a k-related part of this post! Has anyone ever had pain &
numbness
>in the outside edges of the palm ( running down the outside of the little
>finger) or known this to be k-related?
><<--Signalfire>>
> I have experienced excruciating pain in my
>shoulder blades first on the right, then on the left. Went to many
physicians
>and specialists to find the source of the pain--or at the very least to
>minimize it. Once I stopped physical therapy and gave up on trying to fix
it,
>the pain went away. Now I feel alot of warm energy in this area (Sort of
>like wings~~if you're reading, Mystress) that I feel is K energy.
> ~~~Judy
>
>
>
Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 17:23:00 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: "b bah" <happyhunaATnospamhotmail.com>
Cc: kyriacosATnospamcyberdude.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: DYI K-awakening is asking for it!
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At 04:04 PM 03/06/98 PDT, b bah wrote:
>
> FIND A TEACHER !!!!! DO IT YOURSELF IS FINE AROUND YOUR HOME,
>
> Awakening K is not a diy project where you call the 24 hour plumber
>when you aren't successful in making repairs. don't mean to compare
>plumbers to mental health professionals... but... if you think plumbers
>are expensive, wait until you need a truly great psychotherapist. I
>guess what i'm trying to say is for Heavens Sakes BE CAREFUL!
>Peace, barb
More fear of Goddess.. When angel's show up in the old tales, the first
thing they say is "Fear not", coz folks are shitting their pants thinking
they are about to die.
What really marks K. is it's uniqueness. It manifests slightly
differently in everyone, and some folks are drawn to follow a teacher, and
other are guided by Spirit directly.
K. is a pretty intense trip, but it is the path of some folks to do it
untutored. Such was my own path... Goddess protects.
Blessings, Mystress.
>
>
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Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 23:56:28 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: ahmad elkot <ameATnospammindspring.com>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: kundalini
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At 12:49 AM 04/06/98 -0700, ahmad elkot wrote:
>hi
>I wonder if the sexual way is the only way to awaken kundalini,
No.
>and if
>you make love with another practisioner what about ethics and morals.
What about them?
>Like I heard that when you have sex with someone your energies get mixed
>together so you become married in the eyes of god.
LOL! Cute.
In the eyes of God, there is only One of us and it is All of us.. so we
are all One big bigamy..
> someone who wants to awaken his
> kundalini(a seaker)
>Ps I'm using my cousines e-mail
The grounding visualization for awakening Kundalini is at
http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent/ground.htm
Please visit this page when you have 20 minutes to relax
and do the meditation, as the page is "charged" with Shakti
and keyed to be released by your free will choice to visit the page.
Blessings, Mystress.
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 12:21:19 +0100
From: hnielsenATnospamms-dan.dk
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Getting Started
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Hello Astric and everybody else,
Impressive how many letters which are sent to Astric, maybe is it because
we all feel or have felt the same way as Astric - being very excited about
psychic abilities but not interested in the spiritual life - but now some
knows better :)
Astrics interest in Kundalini is a start - he will soon find out that
raising Kundalini cannot come to him without he begins working in himself
eliminating egos, meditate etc. maybe he already has begun meditating. His
interest will in time not only be Astral Projection (which you can
accomplish without Kundalini). Trying to achieve projection is spiritual -
because the astral plane is more spiritual than this, maybe he just doesn't
know why he hungers so much after astral projection - he is willing to do
many things just for accomplishing projection (would you take drugs - which
sometime raises the opposite effect of Kundalini that is why demons always
have tails - the Kundalini has gone down instead of up).
Best wishes in your journey
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 06:58:51 +0100
From: "Lobster" <lobsterATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: "Kundalini - L" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: identified subject
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Dan Margolis said:
> There is no mind-body separation...It is this illusion that creates a
>ton of frustrations... Asking a question like should the body control the
>mind or mind control the body is like asking should the palm and fingers
>control the hand or the hand control the palm and fingers.
>
> Saying the spirit is different from the brain is wrong... Saying the
>body is different from the spirit is wrong... Saying the mind is somewhere
>out of the loop also is a misconception. People are born complete, it
>takes a long time before they feel like they are split into several
>separate units that don't get a long with each other.
The harmonisation of the various components. The integration of Mind, Body
and Spirit compromises Spiritual Work in each Path. Those beguiled by snake
power, psychic and disabling consciousness and exhaltation of the body are
at play.
That's OK.
When people realise that effort itself is a form of play and they can enjoy
progress they can gently ease themselves into a more abling reality.
Now.
People may decide that the requirements of integration may best be served by
increasing their endeavours. They willingly take on the process and rest in
the Spirits effort to guide and open this task.
And so.
They look for experiences and people that will encourage them in their
adulthood. They aspire to find the company of 'elders'. Slowly they realise
not how far they have come but the Infinity of the journey.
They stop.
Being clever. Being evolved. Engaging in self amusment. Thinking they
understand anything.
Suddenly they wish to take on the quality of bestowal. How do I help? How
can I learn so that I may be of service?
And then they find they are more Real and the Real enters their life.
Meanwhile . . .
Be Well
Lobster
Lobster Web Pages: http://ds.dial.pipex.com/town/park/gcn23/
YinYana, Alchemy, Sufism, Time Travel, Satanism and String
Yam? I AM Web site:
http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/park/gcn23/iam/iam.html
Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 03:12:18 PDT
From: "Jose Arroyo" <jm_arroyoATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: On Our Own
Message-ID: <19980604101218.27303.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
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Hello David,
Thank you for this contribution. It is BEAUTIFUL!
How beautiful it is to be happy with nothing, about nothing... just
enjoying LOVE.
Love and Joy,
Jose
>On Our Own
>
>You will keep losing nothing
>While you cherish it.
>
>If you want it;
>It will just slip away.
>
>It's like an itch.
>(what's it take to scratch it?)
>
>I'd give everything I got.
>To not want a single thing more.
>
>Would you?
>What could we come up with together?
>
>The only power I know
>Lies in our togetherness.
>
>I thought I'd make it on my own.
>Should I laugh or cry at such a thought?
>
>Just as long as you laugh or cry with me...
>I think we'll be okay.
>
>(PEACE)
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Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 12:23:09 +0100
From: "jb" <hc19436ATnospamautovia.com>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>, <fluteATnospamtexas.net>
Subject: RE: Pakistan
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flute wrote:
>
> ok.. open your mind just a tad on the pakistan thing and forget that you
> believe that American is the world gatekeeper.
> India fired off missels, then Pakistan just proved that they can fire
> off missels on the Afgan border..
> ..Did anyone notice that there was a massive Earthquake in Afganistan??
> and just after the blast.. Now we know there is a fault line there..
> ..Did anyone notice that China isn't saying a thing. Don't ever
> underestimate China.. They are waiting and watching and as a psychic I'm
> telling you.. China will clean their clock before Congress wakes up, if
> the two third world countries escalate more. Then we will have a true
> power.. China to deal with.
<snip>
When K. awakens, it is the promise of burning karma. On a larger scale,
there is collective karma. The collectives themselves (peoples, nations) are
forming the one collective called world. What happens to an individual, can
happen to collectives: burning of karma. As the collective is composed of
individuals, there will be a remarkable shift when a certain amount of
individuals are K. awakened or meditating (TM'ers are familiar with the
effect). So strictly speaking, the correct issue to meditate on is
everyone's enlightenment (yes, that word again...) because it will make all
other efforts permanently superfluous. What we call objectivity, is but the
outcome of collective karma and this can be influenced according to the
rule: "intense karma will have immediate effect". Worrying will only aid in
what is called "self-fulfilling prophesy", because worrying is a kind of
meditation that will reinforce the current of fear.
Jan
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 12:23:00 +0100
From: "jb" <hc19436ATnospamautovia.com>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>, "ahmad elkot" <ameATnospammindspring.com>
Subject: RE: kundalini
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ahmad wrote:
> hi
> I wonder if the sexual way is the only way to awaken kundalini, and if
> you make love with another practisioner what about ethics and morals.
> Like I heard that when you have sex with someone your energies get mixed
> together so you become married in the eyes of god.
> someone who wants to awaken his
>
> kundalini(a seaker)
Both awakening and raising K. is the result of what could by called a
"surplus" of life-energy. So it isn't "just" sex, one might say it is the
transformed (as opposed to suppressed) energy of all impulses and passions.
The ultimate goal of K. is Self-realization and in this perspective making
love doesn't have a high priority, unless it is to keep up lineage. Having
sex doesn't mean energies become mixed, but because of the strong bonding
that sex causes, your lot will be tied to that of your partner.
Jan
Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 05:26:12 PDT
From: "Jose Arroyo" <jm_arroyoATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: new member
Message-ID: <19980604122612.10363.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
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Welcome Mary, I'm new myself, but have been for some time lurking before
introducing myself (yesterday) :-)
>I wanted to introduce myself.My name is Mary, I am a married mother of
>three, and have been attending metaphysical classes weekly, and
practicing
>meditation daily.I have been wondering about kundalini, and where I
could
I try to medidate regularly although I am not able to keep the
regularity. I guess I'll have to try harder (or just do it).
>find out more, I am very glad to have found the list. I believe I am
>experiencing an awakening, and the effects are a little unsettling if
you
>don't know what's going on.Luckily, I had some idea but wasn't
>sure.,tinglings on different areas of the body, beginning to see
spirit,
I have sensed my 'heart-awakening' for a while now and am sensing also
changes in and around me since then.
The changes I have noticed during meditation is tingling in the palm of
the hands mainly, vibrating of body and the sensing of energy flowing
through my body, like cool bubbles of seven-up or something alike.
(These 'cool-bubbles-of-seven-up' feels quiet good in fact.)
Lately I sense more often pressure in the head during day time. It
doesn't bother me a lot, not painful :-)
>but only beginning,during meditation sometimes I have to gasp for air,
and
>other times feel like my stomach is rolling,(kinda like when you reach
the
>top of a roller coaster, and start heading down). Hope to learn and
share
>with all of you.
>
>Love and Light, Mary
>
>
Love and Joy,
Jose
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Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 09:26:58 EDT
From: Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com
To: magneagaATnospammonet.no, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Nadis - The Upanishads, Heart, and the Shakti
Message-ID: <b6b70326.3576a0a3ATnospamaol.com>
In a message dated 6/3/1998 7:45:48 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
magneagaATnospammonet.no writes:
<< We live in a culture where "strong experiences", sexual orgasm, "kicks" by
alcohol, drugs or whatever are the aspiration, without the soft feminine
counterpart. >>
Harsha: We need the soft feminine part. By the way, there is evidence that
Goddess worship was prevalent around 8000 to 9000 BC. For the soft feminine
experience tune into the poetry of the Goddess.
http://www.telebyte.nl/~frans/kundalini/poetry.html
For the hard male perspective please look into
The Spiritual Experience and the Awakening of
>Kundalini Shakti in Tantra Yoga
>http://www.telebyte.nl/~frans/kundalini/harsh.html
>
God bless everyone with all that is best and with peace and joy.
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 11:51:53 -0400
From: Mike Stickles <msticklesATnospamaurum.com>
To: kl List <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: RE: DYI K-awakening is asking for it!
Message-ID: <84DBEC04AE96D111808300805F850AB2350838ATnospamEX-DENVER-U1.baan.com>
<< What really marks K. is it's uniqueness. It manifests slightly
differently in everyone, and some folks are drawn to follow a teacher, and
other are guided by Spirit directly.
K. is a pretty intense trip, but it is the path of some folks to do
it untutored. Such was my own path... >>
Mine as well. All of the instruction I've received in K. has come from this
list, and most of it I've set aside out of an intuitive sense that it
doesn't apply to where I'm coming from. The path I'm following harmonizes
well with my evangelical Christian beliefs (though not with the extra
baggage many evangelicals bring to their faith). That means that for me to
have a teacher I'd need to find an evangelical Christian who's K-awakened
beyond where I'm at, who's able to teach/guide and who's not so afraid of
being "outed" to the rest of the church that he/she won't take on a student.
Bets, anyone? ;-).
- Mike
Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 16:52:25 GMT
From: sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net (Jack)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Pakistan*psychics*
Message-ID: <3580d0c1.14248448ATnospammailhost.worldnet.att.net>
In a message dated 6/3/1998 10:46:44 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net writes:
I believe that prophecies are lucky guesses. Not one 'seer' in human
history has been shown to be 100% right 100% of the time, the reality
is a far cry from 100%. You get lucky once and the next thing you
know, your a psychic.
Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com wrote:
Harsha: Well put Jack! There are many self proclaimed psychics on this
list. I don't see anyone winning the big lotto yet:--). Sorry, I could
not resist.
madammumATnospamptialaska.net writes:
psychic abilities are spiritual *gifts*, which means the motivations
driving the person with the abilities plays a *big* part in the
validity of the impressions. Money is not a pure enough motivation.
Question people's motivations & needs to identify with a
catagorization, & after all the chaff is sorted through perhaps a few
might be left who are worthy of the title. They probably are not out
trumpetting their abilities, or even very consciously aware of it
themselves, much less taking money to 'read fortunes'.
Most of them windbags are lucky to be regarded as 'lucky guessers',
imho!
IMHO there's a large gap between 'psychic ability' and phrophecy or
telling the future. I think of 'intention' rather than motivation when
it comes to PSI and K. I have only run into one person with complete
and undeniable PSI abilities. This person described to me the
technique used to travel in the astral plane or tensegrity as he put
it. Word for word he described my own experience and he even gave me
some pointers! To this day, he will not reveal his true identity. If
one speaks about his abilities, he denies it. Now, he uses the guise
of 'Fiction Writing' to get his story across.
I have always been a bit skeptical of those who claim to experience
certain phenomenae via an Internet Web Site. After communicating with
this man and reading some of the writings from our friend Harsha I'm
not as skeptical. Those of great goodness and spirit seem able to
project these qualities, no matter what the medium.
Jack
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 09:18:28 -0700
From: "Dan Margolis" <Dan_MargolisATnospamabm.com>
To: enlightATnospamsgi.net, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: SELF-realization was (Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center)
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Pat Panza wrote:
> There are many useless ideas surrounding Kundalini. ALL my spiritual
realizations
> happened without cleansings, breath work, physical postures, etc. Some
say one must
> desire to self-realization, and others say to desire nothing. I wanted
kundalini and much
> more, and am still reaping the benefits. I contend that one MUST follow
one's own
> path, one's own way. Teachers can mislead you. Who knows one better
than one's
> Self? Follow you ardent desire for God, and one day enlightenment will
be realized.
Did the wanting lead to your realizations or did the realizations just
happen?
some people's own paths involve teachers, some people's paths involve
self-realization. you seem to be pretty proud of the fact that you needed
no spiritual teachers and you followed your own path. You seem to say that
because of what I DID, I am now reaping the benefits... Have YOU done
anything or has it happened to you? Nobody MUST do any specific thing to
attain realization, everybody MUST find a path that allows them to reflect,
understand and let the ego go...
Dan M.
Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 13:29:23 PDT
From: "Joseph Miller" <joemillerATnospamhotmail.com>
To: enlightATnospamsgi.net
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
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Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 18:23:26 -1000 (HST)
From: Pat Panza <enlightATnospamsgi.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
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June 3 Pat Panza wrote:
>There are many useless ideas surrounding Kundalini. ALL my spiritual
>realizations happened without cleansings, breath work, physical
>postures, etc. Some say one must desire self-realization, and others
>say to desire nothing. I wanted kundalini and much more, and am
>still reaping the benefits. I contend that one MUST follow one's own
>path, one's own way. Teachers can mislead you.
>Who knows one better than one's Self? Follow you ardent desire for
>God, and one day enlightenment will be realized.
>
Pat,
Interesting post. How long did it take you to become enlightened without
a teacher?
Namaste,
Joe
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Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 09:44:37 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: hnielsenATnospamms-dan.dk
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Getting Started
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At 12:21 PM 04/06/98 +0100, hnielsenATnospamms-dan.dk wrote:
>
>Hello Astric and everybody else,
>
Astric unsubscribed yesterday.
Blessings, List Mystress.
Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 13:40:46 PDT
From: "Joseph Miller" <joemillerATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: July Hinduism Today
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I just thought I'd mention that the July issue of Hinduism Today (my
subscription came Tuesday, the local Borders still had June's out at
8:00 PM Wed) has a couple of things that may be of interest to
K-listers.
It has a two page spread on Kundalini in the west. It mentions the
Kundalini Research Foundation, Kundalini Research Network, etc. that
have been mentioned on the list as well as other resources that we've
discussed less than those.
It also has a three page wide fold out showing the 14 chakras in the
body + the 7 above the top of the head. The 14 are the 7 we've all read
about plus the 7 in the legs and feet. Farther inside the magazine is a
related four page article devoted to discussing the charkas. The article
describes the 14 in the body as well as it can in that brief space. The
other 7 are the next steps for those who reach enlightenment, guess they
didn't expect many readers to need info on those. :)
Namaste,
Joe
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Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 20:11:49 +0000
From: valerie cooper <madammumATnospamptialaska.net>
To: Jack <sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Pakistan*psychics*
Message-ID: <3576FF81.4EDBATnospamptialaska.net>
Jack wrote:
<snip>
> IMHO there's a large gap between 'psychic ability' and phrophecy or
> telling the future. I think of 'intention' rather than motivation when
> it comes to PSI and K. I have only run into one person with complete
> and undeniable PSI abilities. This person described to me the
> technique used to travel in the astral plane or tensegrity as he put
> it. Word for word he described my own experience and he even gave me
> some pointers! To this day, he will not reveal his true identity. If
> one speaks about his abilities, he denies it. Now, he uses the guise
> of 'Fiction Writing' to get his story across.
> I have always been a bit skeptical of those who claim to experience
> certain phenomenae via an Internet Web Site. After communicating with
> this man and reading some of the writings from our friend Harsha I'm
> not as skeptical. Those of great goodness and spirit seem able to
> project these qualities, no matter what the medium.
i had a friend in PDX (Portland, Oregon, USA) a few years back who had
been a valid sensitive type guy, & then got a job with some PSYCHIC
FRIENDS type hotline, making 18 dollars an hour to answer the phone from
his home & counsel the bereft with advice of their condition & future.
next, he moved in with an 'uptown girl', & haven't heard from him since!
okay, I can finally see placing $$$ value on *artwork*, but to me,
selling extra-sensory phenomenon is not just impossible & improbable,
but downright *tacky*!
bleh!
vc
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Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 18:39:44 -0700 (PDT)
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