1998/06/03 21:49
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #425
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 425
Today's Topics:
Re: Apology and question [ MoonDghtrATnospamaol.com ]
Unidentified subject! [ "Dan Margolis" <Dan_MargolisATnospamabm.co ]
ISP problems again [ Jan Barendrecht <kvy9ATnospamyahoo.com> ]
Re: primates and meat [ Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iis ]
Re:Getting Started [ "Sharon Webb" <shawebbATnospamyhc.edu> ]
Re: Prophecy (was RE: Pakistan) [ sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net (Jack) ]
Re: Pakistan [ sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net (Jack) ]
Re: Re: Nadis - The Upanishads, Hear [ "Magne Aga" <magneagaATnospammonet.no> ]
Re: Getting started [ Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iis ]
Re: Help Unsubscribe [ MMeyers541ATnospamaol.com ]
Re: The Upanishads, Heart, and the S [ Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com ]
Repost (re: Getting started) [ Ori <oriATnospameskimo.com> ]
AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Cen [ Pat Panza <enlightATnospamsgi.net> ]
AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Cen [ Pat Panza <enlightATnospamsgi.net> ]
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 19:27:25 EDT
From: MoonDghtrATnospamaol.com
To: melintonATnospamalison.sbc.edu
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Apology and question
Message-ID: <3b484fbd.3575dbdeATnospamaol.com>
<<There is a k-related part of this post! Has anyone ever had pain & numbness
in the outside edges of the palm ( running down the outside of the little
finger) or known this to be k-related? The only reason I think this may be
k-related is because it started up in the right hand earlier this year and
the pain got so bad I thought I had a bone spur. then suddenly it was gone.
Now its in my left hand. Same place. Whatcha think?>>
<<--Signalfire>>
I get pain and numbness like you're describing on the same part of my hands as
you do. I also feel it on the outer edges of my feet and into my baby
toes--don't know if it is K related or not, although they (feet and hands) had
not felt like this in the past. I have experienced excruciating pain in my
shoulder blades first on the right, then on the left. Went to many physicians
and specialists to find the source of the pain--or at the very least to
minimize it. Once I stopped physical therapy and gave up on trying to fix it,
the pain went away. Now I feel alot of warm energy in this area (Sort of
like wings~~if you're reading, Mystress) that I feel is K energy.
~~~Judy
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 16:05:13 -0700
From: "Dan Margolis" <Dan_MargolisATnospamabm.com>
To: serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com, anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in,
kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Unidentified subject!
Message-ID: <86256618.00811000.00ATnospaminternet-503.interliant.com>
Content-Disposition: inline
> Body is a trillion times smarter than brain.. spirit's wisdom is
>limitless... who do you think oughta be in charge??
>
> BB, M.
wrong...wrong..wrong..wrong wrong.
There is no mind-body separation...It is this illusion that creates a
ton of frustrations... Asking a question like should the body control the
mind or mind control the body is like asking should the palm and fingers
control the hand or the hand control the palm and fingers.
Saying the spirit is different from the brain is wrong... Saying the
body is different from the spirit is wrong... Saying the mind is somewhere
out of the loop also is a misconception. People are born complete, it
takes a long time before they feel like they are split into several
separate units that don't get a long with each other.
>At 10:07 PM 03/06/98 +0530, Anurag Goel wrote:
>>
>>I am thinking whether body should control us or we should control the
>>body.
>>
>>love,
>>Anurag
>>
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 16:41:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jan Barendrecht <kvy9ATnospamyahoo.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: ISP problems again
Message-ID: <19980603234130.22174.rocketmailATnospamsend1b.yahoomail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Dear list,
As there are ISP problems since this morning again and Yahoo-mail isnt
very friendly for the visually handicapped, I won't be back until this
has been sorted out.
Jan
_________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?
Get your free ATnospamyahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 04:45:12 +0530 (IST)
From: Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in>
To: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
cc: Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in>,
amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com,
kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: primates and meat
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.93.980604044341.14160A-100000ATnospamBhaskara>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
It should be spirit.
Love,
Anurag
On Wed, 3 Jun 1998, Mystress Angelique Serpent wrote:
>
> Body is a trillion times smarter than brain.. spirit's wisdom is
> limitless... who do you think oughta be in charge??
>
> BB, M.
>
> At 10:07 PM 03/06/98 +0530, Anurag Goel wrote:
> >
> >I am thinking whether body should control us or we should control the
> >body.
> >
> >love,
> >Anurag
> >
>
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 19:51:50 -0400
From: "Sharon Webb" <shawebbATnospamyhc.edu>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re:Getting Started
Message-ID: <024901bd8f4a$94a5fd20$81d11fa8ATnospamsharonwe>
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="iso-8859-1"
Astric,
Here is an excerpt from my kundalini diary which I wrote last August:
------------------------
To recap. Kundalini energy has been moving in me for eight weeks now.
This has been the most profound period of my life. I have been through
hell, been granted bliss, had my life-long beliefs and ideas turned upside
down, and had my libido activated to almost unbelievable heights. I have
laughed, cried, grieved. I find now that I accept, or at least do not
reject out of hand, all sorts of things that I could not have accepted two
months ago. I have seen runes writ in lichen on a limestone wall, and seen
them come to life and tell me what they meant. I have had reams of
channeled material roll out of my head and onto paper. I have known love,
loss, rejection, acceptance, grief, sorrow, and unbelievable bliss. I have
had pain, headaches, a small k burn on my hand, burning along my spine and
through my feet, itching, spinal tingles, crown chakra tingles, and so on.
>From all this there is one thing---amazingly---that I take from this
experience: my gratitude, my profound and everlasting gratitude to spirit,
Goddess, God for this experience.
------------------------
Since that time I have ridden the k rollercoaster nonstop. Once you're
onboard, there is no getting off. My awakening (which I, like many others,
refer to as an explosion) was spontaneous. I had not meditated for many
months before, had not received shaktipat, had done nothing consciously to
bring this on. The side effects of k nearly killed me seven weeks
ago---never mind how. I am slowly recovering now.
None of this is meant to scare you---but to alert you as to what it is you
want to play with. As Roberto said, k is not a toy. Most gurus (I don't
have one) say that the so-called psychic "gifts" of k are something to
avoid. The purpose of k is enlightenment (literally) of body, mind, and
spirit and psychic phenomena are to be merely noted, but not dwelled upon.
And some of the phenomena is not pleasurable. For example, although I was
always empathic to a certain extent, my empath level took two quantum leaps
since k began. I began to feel the bodily symptoms of people I came in
contact with. This included people on the internet as well. Carrying
everybody's symptoms around became almost incapacitating for a time.
Perhaps you should look at some of these web sites before you make a final
judgment about what people on the k list are telling you.
http://users.aol.com/ckress/symptoms.html
http://www.aloha.net/~bpeay/kundalini/danger.html
http://www.aloha.net/~bpeay/kundalini/update2.html
http://www.well.com/user/selene/SENarticles/SpiritPsychosis.html
http://www.stn.net/icr/
http://166.122.32.61/trimble/Kundalini-1.html
http://www.well.com/user/bobby/SC/imich17.html
http://www.tantrictom.demon.co.uk/egodea1.htm
Best wishes,
Sharon
shawebbATnospamyhc.edu
A new fractal gallery and screensaver was posted to this site, 4/3/98:
http://www.fractalus.com/sharon/
USA Today Hot Site; Cosmic Site of the Night: Cool Central Site of the Day;
ENC Digital Dozen; Enchantment Award; ArtSearch Featured Site;
NetTech NeatTech: Web Best ; Eye Candy Award; Studyweb Featured Site;
Lotus Light Award; Wave of the Day; Hot Site Award; Critical Mass Award;
Best of the Planet, People's Choice Award, 1998; WS Award; Treasured Site
Award
-----Original Message-----
From: Kyriacos N Neocleous <kyriacosATnospamcyberdude.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Date: Wednesday, June 03, 1998 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: Getting started
>>By shadow, here's what I mean. My intuitive insight has become heightened,
>>especially in the last six months. I see things about people that they
>don't see
>>and don't really want to know. There's nothing I can do about someone
>else's
>>life, but stand back and watch sometimes painful events happen to them. Is
>this
>>a gift? Sometimes I think it's a curse. How would you like to know that
>someone
>>is about to be fired? Or someone's wife is having an affair? Or someone is
>only
>>being nice to you so they can sleep with you? Or someone has betrayed your
>trust
>>but doesn't have the courage to admit it? It sucks.
>
>
>I would love to know these things where necessary so I can protect myself
>and maybe others if I can. Moreover, about future predictions, I like to
>consider the future as constantly changing (like most people do) and I
don't
>take something that I or some psychic reader has foreseen to be absolute.
I
>realize that I have control over my life and seeing a future event I don't
>like enables me to change the present conditions that lead to that event.
>
>Would you rather be betrayed many times by the same person before you
>realize it? Would you rather let a creep sleep with you because you
>actually think s/he is a nice person?
>
>>That's such a funny thing to say, Astric! (OK-I want to drop this now. I
>didn't
>>really want to be aware. Please, let's put things in reverse...no weirdo
>>metaphysical experiences anymore. CAN'T I JUST BE A "NORMAL" PERSON???
>[grin])
>>Once things start, there's no turning back. You can try to ignore, but it
>never
>>goes away.
>>
>
>
>As I said I am new to this but it makes sense to be able to reverse the
>process if you think it's a curse. I assume you became aware by meditating
>and using specific visualizations to raise the Ki. What if you stop all
>meditation? My guess would be that your chakras will become inactive after
>some time and you will stop having psychic abilities.
>
>I regret that my very first email to this list has lead to an argument in
an
>attempt to warn me or push me back from this practice. I am hoping to get
>some more opinions from other people.
>
>Best regards
>Astric
>
Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 01:59:10 GMT
From: sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net (Jack)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Prophecy (was RE: Pakistan)
Message-ID: <357aff67.45795549ATnospammailhost.worldnet.att.net>
I believe in Biblical prophecy as being true prophecy - but then, I'm
an evangelical Christian, so what else would you expect? ;-) I believe
many of the prophets were indeed 100% right, but as this cannot
strictly be proven (obviously no one would want to record their
failures), your opposing assertion cannot be disproved. My own record
at prophesying is 100%, but since the data set is only four
prophecies, two of which were too general to make much of, the odds
against 100% success probably aren't yet high enough
to be statistically significant.
Considering myself to have an open mind I wouldn't want to debate upon
the likelihood of your beliefs. But I have always had a problem with
envy or jealousy towards those who believe in one particular faith or
philosophy. To have faith like this must be wonderful. Try as I might,
I cannot come to grips with the fact that millions of folks all over
the planet, much more intelligent than I, wake up each morning content
in the fact that they have wholly embraced the one true faith.
As you mention in your post, my problem lies with the fact that most
of the worlds religious dogma was written by men born well after the
actual events they write of or even prophesize.
When goddess worship was subdued 10,000 years ago, those invaders from
the East who destroyed the Goddess and placed women in the inferior
position did mankind a great diservice. With them came warfare unknown
to man up to that time.
These dogmas arise from just this sort of invader. Placing women in
servitude and denying them the great joy of full participation in
their chosen faith. The Great Books have been handed down to us by
these invaders. To me, they represent man at his worst.
At the time of my awakening I had hopes of finally seeing 'a truth'
that I could put my faith in. Eventually I did find that truth in the
human species itself. Each time my k-energy arises I see a little
further under the veil, things look pretty good so far.
Peace,
Jack
Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 01:59:19 GMT
From: sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net (Jack)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Pakistan
Message-ID: <357bff70.45803939ATnospammailhost.worldnet.att.net>
Harsha: Well put Jack! There are many self proclaimed psychics on this
list. I don't see anyone winning the big lotto yet:--). Sorry, I could
not resist.
I predict that all of our so-called psychics will have less than a
50-50 chance of hitting on any given number. I can also tell you that
I will be 99.99% correct. : )>
Namaste, my friend Harsha.
Jack
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 04:40:22 +0200
From: "Magne Aga" <magneagaATnospammonet.no>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Nadis - The Upanishads, Heart, and the Shakti
Message-Id: <199806040255.EAA04047ATnospamokstind.monet.no>
----------
* Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com wrote:
| techniques you mention are classical methods and well known and are not
unique
| or specific to Kriya Yoga or any other branch of Kundalini Yoga.. The So
-
| Ham mantra, as an introduction to meditation, is used in both Hindu and
Jain
| Yogic and Tantric traditions. Ujjayi, Suryabheda, Bhastrika along with
the
| Bandhas, mudras and kriyas can be found in good Hatha Yoga books (which
derive
| them from Hatha Yoga Pradipika and Siva Samhita).
Yes, the techniques exists in other traditions. "Vishuddhi Shuddhi" is
however a program of 5 different techniques, meant as an introduction to
Ajapa Jap. Ajapa Jap consists of 9 techniques, with similar processes.
Similar processes are repeated (in enhanced versions), together with other
processes. Among these are hridayakasham (the room of beauty in the
Hearth), Nada Yoga (Divine Sound) and your personal Yantra (symbol of
contemplation). We are talking of a composition of different methods,
because you cannot change the gear, you cannot enter another stage of
consciousness before having gained the full effect of the previous step.
The "M" in the SO-HAM mantra is pronounced "NG" (try to make these sound
through your nose, and you will have it).
However, my main point was meda. These nadi is very important in order for
the energy to CIRCULATE. Vishuddhu shuddhi and Ajapa Jap, are used to
"clean" meda and make it broader. Kriya Yoga (with its 24 techniques)
implies among other things a circulation through the centers, not just an
upwards movement, and then Finito.
* Jeanne Garner wrote:
| Hi, Magne Aga, thank you so much for this post. Without knowing the
| terminology, I've almost instinctively known that you don't want any one
| energy center to be emphasized more than another energy center, even if
it
| IS the crown chakra. Seems to me that to perform best, they should all
be
| in balance?
That's correct. Sushumna is often compared to a three. It has deep roots in
the mud. And it grows upwards to Heaven, to the blissfull non-duality of
Divinity. But, it is easy to understand from these metaphore that in order
for a three to grow higher, it needs deeper roots. And the thunk of the
three has to be thicker. The more energy we move upwards to Sahashrara, the
more of the counterpart energy must descend to replace Kundalini. We
"ground" the energy from above, in order for Kundalini to rise in an
balanced way. And as in the metaphore of the thickness of a high three, it
is important to broaden sushumna and meda. When the circulations take place
(up sushumna, down meda), both nadis gradually becomes broader and broader,
until they are as broad as the whole body.
Our Western culture has a tendency to favour only one half of complementary
dualities. This is the Great Error, because, we cannot be awake, without
the sleep, we cannot have males without females, we cannot have positive
electricity without negative electricity.
We live in a culture where "strong experiences", sexual orgasm, "kicks" by
alcohol, drugs or whatever are the aspiration, without the soft feminine
counterpart. When Kundalini moves upwards, it gives us a kick of energy,
strength, energy, FIRE - The MALE energy.
But the Kriya Baptism of Fire and Water has a dual aspect. Fire and water
together are a symbol here, used as counterbalances so you will understand
that the fire of Spirit cannot be put out by the waters of your own
immersing or bathing ot cleansing.
This is a dual aspect, for you feel the energy of fire coursing through
your entire body and mind and you feel aflame with all the power God has
given each of His/Hers individual creations. Then You feel the desire to
bathe yourself for cleanliness. You feel the desire to disperse any of the
errors of your ways and all the evil that may have been done in your life.
The MALE FIRE upwards the spine gives us Strength in these troubled
end-times of an age and a frequency vibration, but not the physical world.
The MALE FIRE gives us the energy to survive in troubled times of
initiation-tests. But the counterpart, the FEMALE WATERS downwards meda,
gives us the necessary passion, softness and beauty for washing away errors
- the baby's rest, that dwells within us all.
When favouring Sahashrara as the Quest, we go straight into a pitfall. "The
Highest is the Lowest" said the Hindus. And Jesus washed the feets of his
disciples. The upstream to Heaven (Kundalini) is also a downstream to Earth
(The Light Body). The two energy forms gradually replace each others
through these lift of circulation, making "a new Heaven and a New Earth" -
a statement not fully grasped by Christians.
* Antoine wrote
| Or something more if you learn to surf the wave.
|
| As for the reserved place in China they call it the spychic body. It was
and
| is still necessery at some stage to build such a psychic body or
"reserved
| body" when the ego was so closed to the pooring in of energy. The
physical
| body just could not substain it. Take for example at the philosophie
level
| the "inner space" created in the day to day mind by the discovery of
| relativity. A mind thinking the earth or the sun or time or space are not
| the center of the universe anymore can contain much more before exploding
| into a spychosis or death of the body. Same goes at the political level
and
| religious organisation slowlly moving from monarchie to anarchie. Same
goes
| for the echo system, our identity as a body is more and more felt as part
| whith the "echo" system (echologie, etc..) than apart from it. Which
leaves
| on other levels "doors" for a room. And the explosion of nuclear bombs...
| They do create a lot of "space" to "put" the overloaded energy, knowing
that
| behind matter there is something that is the same than on the other side.
|
| This chamber or spychic body is just a step in human evolution. IMO.
|
| Surfing on the shadow and enjoying it.
You probably misunderstood me (words counts for only 7 % of all
communication). When I mentioned the possibility of a psychosis, a
"meditation psychosis" if you prefer, I refered to the danger of having ALL
energy in the head. Just like persons in LSD trips may have troubles of
"coming down", there lurks a possibility with Kundalini upstreams
experiences that we may not return, causing an escape from our vision of
birth, the reason for beeing incarnated. The Light can be so strong that we
becomes blinded. And when we try to return, the darkness becomes even
darker because we are blinded. The blending of the Light body and our
physical vessel has to be gradual and balanced, so we do not become
entrapped in the in-between world.
There is no contradiction here what the "psychic body" above our head is
concerned. The "psychic body" is the primordial body of mankind, it was our
original body on Earth 26 millions of Years ago, before the "fall from
Grace" in the Judaic allegory, when our physical body was excreted from the
Light Body. But we live in the feminine, the Western part of the milky way.
Our Sun has almost fullfilled it's 206 million year revolution around the
central Sun, and the descent of the Ligth Body, not within small esoteric
circles, not for a single person at Golgata or for Babaji, but for all
humanity, is almost complete.
The "psychic body" / light body / ressurected body / electrical body /
supra-element body, is not restricted to a single redeemer. It's the
rightfull heritage of every single human beeing on the surface of the
planet. If someone tells you anything else, don't believe him. If someone
tells you that the adept on Golgata performed miracles *not possible by
anyone else*, don't believe him. For Sananda has explained that he, in his
incarnation as Jesus, didn't walk on the waters in his physical, but in his
light body.
BLESSINGS
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 22:19:15 +0530 (IST)
From: Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in>
To: Kyriacos N Neocleous <kyriacosATnospamcyberdude.com>
cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Getting started
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.93.980603221747.24387D-100000ATnospamBhaskara>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Can anyone explain astral projection?
seeker,
On Wed, 3 Jun 1998, Kyriacos N Neocleous wrote:
> Hi All, I just subscribed here. The reason I am interested in Kundalini
> raising is for Astral Projection. I read a book "Treatise on Astral
> Projection" by Robert Bruce in which I found an elementary technique for
> opening the chakras before attempting projection and that's how I became
> interested in the subject. I found two books at www.amazon.com that thought
> perhaps would help me get started:
>
> Karl Lusink "Essential Introduction to Kundalini Yoga"
>
> Gavin Frost, Yvonne Frost "Tantric Yoga : The Royal Path to Raising
> Kundalini Power"
>
> The books are on their way, I wonder if any of you can comment on these
> books and maybe give me some more information on how to get started on this
> fascinating practice. I would appreciate any guidance since I have no
> experience on this.
>
> Best Regards
> Astric
>
>
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 23:21:13 EDT
From: MMeyers541ATnospamaol.com
To: newmanATnospamtamcotec.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Help Unsubscribe
Message-ID: <5449bf8a.357612abATnospamaol.com>
In a message dated 98-06-03 12:32:39 EDT, you write:
<< Please get me out of this looney-bin!
UNSUBSCRIBE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!>>
Michele:
Our kind host, Mystress Angelique Serpent, recently (re) posted instructions
for unsubscribing.
"To leave the list send a post with UNSUBSCRIBE in the subject header to
<KUNDALINI-L-REQUESTATnospamEXECPC.COM> for the List and <KUNDALINI-L-D-
REQUESTATnospamEXECPC.COM> for the List Digest."
Good luck!
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 23:45:56 EDT
From: Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com
To: maryATnospamsonic.net, Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: The Upanishads, Heart, and the Shakti
Message-ID: <9da6db83.35761875ATnospamaol.com>
In a message dated 6/3/1998 2:38:33 PM Pacific Daylight Time, maryATnospamsonic.net
writes:
<< At 10:49 AM 6/2/98 EDT, Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com wrote:
>The rising to the Sahasarara and then going
>down to the Cave of the Heart is an experience of going to the depth of
Being
>and by being "captured" and "absorbed" from the point of view of the ego.
The
>Mind-stuff, the personality, the subtle feeling of individual existence,
>merges with THAT. The "I AM" is swallowed up. It is like a death. All is
Lost.
>All Possibilities End. All is Gained. The Self Arises.
Mary: This sounds like descriptions of actual physical death I have read one
place and another. >>
Harsha: Perhaps, but it is beyond death. Here (Kevala Nirvikalpa Samadhi)
there is Fullness of Awareness. It is Complete. It is called Sat-Chit-Ananda.
It is devoid of all sorrows and cravings. It is the Self-Existent and Eternal
State. It is the Underlying Reality behind all phenomena at all planes of
existence.
Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 21:03:34 -0700
From: Ori <oriATnospameskimo.com>
To: Kundalini-l <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Repost (re: Getting started)
Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980603210334.00804840ATnospammail.eskimo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Hi all,
Popping back in for a short spell and felt inclined to repost this
email from last August for Astric. I just read Karl Lusink's "Essential
Introduction to Kundalini Yoga" and while informative and interesting, it
is not necessarily something I'd recommend as a beginning text.
However I do recommend the practice of Kundalini yoga and meditation
There are links on my web page for further resources.
Below when I mention *symptoms* I am including such side effects as Astral
Projection and others.
__
IMHO there can be a tendency toward focusing only on the *symptoms*
and a forgetting to look at the bigger picture. Whether this is a
function of modern western society, or is a common human tendency,
I am not certain. In my way of thinking it is very much akin to
having sex simply as a physical action.
In the practices which work toward the raising of kundalini, it
seems there is also a focus on raising the consciousness... and
on integrating spiritual and physical spheres. To simply focus
on raising the Kundalini seems to me to be like doing parlor tricks...
divorced from the living magic of our existence in this physical
world. Sure, it might be nice to get some energy moving... but
to what end?
I think what I am getting at is that from what I have seen, felt,
experienced-- the rising of kundalini is not an end in itself, but
it is a means to an end... and a new beginning ;)
The tendency to become unbalanced while involved in this work is
perhaps from a focus which too narrowly gets caught up in the
sensation. My belief is (and this may and will differ from the
beliefs of others) that we enter into a relationship with this
rising energy... we do not have to give our power over to it.
An analogy which might help to express what I am trying to get
across with this post:
If you go on a roadtrip, and focus only on the vehicle you are driving
(or riding within) then one might miss the wondrous landscape all around.
Only when there is a balance of focus where the vehicle is maintained
and serviced and attended to AND then is released to perform its function
can one begin to enjoy the places one travels through.
The same with the raising of the kundalini. I see it as the vehicle
which allows us to travel (evolve) consciously through the landscape
of a full life. At times we pull over to fuel up, wash/cleanse the
vehicle, tune it up, but then we pull back out on the highway...
and become involved with what is around us, and with where we are
going. If we spent our entire focus on the vehicle... then we
may miss the wonders of the landscape we are awakening within.
While I did not answer your question directly, I find it valuable
to think about not only why one wants to focus on the raising of
the kundalini, but also about the purpose of doing this and where
it will lead.
____________________
>From a fellow student on the path,
Ori
oriATnospameskimo.com
Kundalini Resources on the Web
http://www.eskimo.com/~ori/kundalini.html
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 18:21:31 -1000 (HST)
From: Pat Panza <enlightATnospamsgi.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
Message-Id: <199806040421.SAA03172ATnospamhaleakala.aloha.net>
There are many useless ideas surrounding Kundalini. ALL my spiritual realizations happened without cleansings, breath work, physical postures, etc. Some say one must desire to self-realization, and others say to desire nothing. I wanted kundalini and much more, and am still reaping the benefits. I contend that one MUST follow one's own path, one's own way. Teachers can mislead you. Who knows one better than one's Self? Follow you ardent desire for God, and one day enlightenment will be realized.
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 18:23:26 -1000 (HST)
From: Pat Panza <enlightATnospamsgi.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
Message-Id: <199806040423.SAA04055ATnospamhaleakala.aloha.net>
There are many useless ideas surrounding Kundalini. ALL my spiritual realizations happened without cleansings, breath work, physical postures, etc. Some say one must desire self-realization, and others say to desire nothing. I wanted kundalini and much more, and am still reaping the benefits. I contend that one MUST follow one's own path, one's own way. Teachers can mislead you. Who knows one better than one's Self? Follow you ardent desire for God, and one day enlightenment will be realized.
DISCLAIMER!
Home | Archive Index | Search the archives | Subscribe
K. List FAQ | Kundalini FAQs | Signs and Symptoms | Awakening Experiences | K. list Polls | Member Essays | Meditations | List Topics | Art Gallery | Cybrary | Sitemap | Email the moderators.
symbol.