1998/06/03 16:27
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #424
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 424
Today's Topics:
Re: Getting started [ "Sharon Webb" <shawebbATnospamyhc.edu> ]
Re: too damned many posts lately and [ Hofe1ATnospamaol.com ]
Re: Getting started [ "Roberto Gonzales del Valle" <93035 ]
Re: Intro + some questions [ "Roberto Gonzales del Valle" <93035 ]
loony bin! [ "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.or ]
Re: Pakistan [ Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com ]
Re: Pakistan [ ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com ]
Re: Pakistan [ "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon. ]
Re: Prophecy (was RE: Pakistan) [ "Walls" <MURPHY18ATnospamprodigy.net> ]
Re: Pakistan [ "Walls" <MURPHY18ATnospamprodigy.net> ]
Re: primates and meat [ Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iis ]
Re: primates and meat [ amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us ]
Re: Re: The Upanishads, Heart, and t [ Mary Ezzell <maryATnospamsonic.net> ]
Re: Getting started [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
Re: Re: The Upanishads, Heart, and t [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
Re: primates and meat [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
DYI K-awakening is asking for it! [ "b bah" <happyhunaATnospamhotmail.com> ]
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 14:52:09 -0400
From: "Sharon Webb" <shawebbATnospamyhc.edu>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Getting started
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Astric,
I believe what Nancy is saying to you is that awakening kundalini is not a
trivial affair. She was not referring to side-effects of astral projection,
but rather side-effects of kundalini, which can be more than the unwary
bargained for.
Sharon
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-----Original Message-----
From: Kyriacos N Neocleous <kyriacosATnospamcyberdude.com>
To: NancyATnospamwtp.net <NancyATnospamwtp.net>; kundalini-1 <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Date: Wednesday, June 03, 1998 12:26 PM
Subject: Re: Getting started
>
>>I don't know quite how to say this...but I feel like you're blind and deaf
>>
>
>>Maybe it seems interesting to do astral projection or be intuitive or
>>read
>>people's energy. And it is. But with all of these gifts comes a shadow
>>side
>>that you may not realize until after you have opened yourself up to
>>these
>>abilities.
>
>I honestly have no clue whatever gave you that idea! When I chose to do
>astral projection I knew about the side effects. Even without any specific
>chakra work, the chakras are stimulated by astral projection and as I read,
>interesting and wonderful things start to happen in your life. By no means
>I would call this a shadow side but a natural and helpful side effect of
the
>whole process. Now if you don't like what is happening to you since
>awakening your abilities and you find it to have a dark side, maybe you
>should drop the whole thing.
>
>Best Regards
>Astric
>
>
>
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 15:14:28 EDT
From: Hofe1ATnospamaol.com
To: hc19436ATnospamautovia.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: too damned many posts lately and manipura
Message-ID: <79258b87.3575a095ATnospamaol.com>
Dear HC:
What is the complete form of Vajroli Mudra? Please be specific. Inquiring
minds want to know. Also I read from a book by a spiritual teacher that
withholding ejaculation and transforming it for men can cause prostate cancer.
Me thinks it's bull, but I am open to debate on the subject.
Best wishes,
Dave
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 13:43:12 -0500
From: "Roberto Gonzales del Valle" <930359ATnospamaloe.ulima.edu.pe>
To: "Kyriacos N Neocleous" <kyriacosATnospamcyberdude.com>
Cc: "Kundalini List" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Getting started
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Hi Kyriacos and list members:
Welcome to the list. Note that being on this list won´t get your K rised but
will give you a push towards it.
K is something that commonly rises it own when an individual is ready. I am
not authority on the subject or nothing but I have found a lot of people,
mysef included, raised K due to very painful situations.
See, ego is a big issue when K is raised.
I read when you said there could actually be a turning back if the
experience doens´t suit you.
Well, there is not.
K gives you the whole package, take it or leave it. Have you taken a good
look at the yin yang symbol? I recommed you do. The black and the white
together in harmony, the black contains white, the white contains black and
they are in both contained within. It is a perfect explanation of how both
sides of the coin that dear Nancy refered to would lead to get along is one
finds balance.
But, my friend, finding balance after this blowing energy wakes is not an
easy task. First you got to do some cleansing. Everyday, stressfull aspects
of the society we live in stress us (quote the Beatles: "The movement you
need is on your shoulder", beautiful fab4). That is when ego comes. You have
to accept there needs some cleansing to be done. And that you, as an
individual are not in charge anymore. All those logical explanations by
which
one saw the world start to fade after one realizes it was all an ilusion to
have a grip of control. And one has to face reallity without pre-established
concepts. Then if ego is strong and you say: "well, I can deal with it", it
is going to hurt. But if you realice the meaningless part ego is in the
whole picture while surrendering to the light and peace of spirit and the
big family we all and it all really is. Then, for somepeople brief, for
somepeople eternal, the moment(s) is/are great!
Now, then. It is not a toy. And if you see it like a toy it is very unlike
that it comes to you at all (and if does it can be very dangerous).
About the books you ordered, they seem right. I haven´t read a lot about K
since I live in Lima, Peru; and amazon orders take a long time to come.
There you will find information. But just information. Here you can find
opinion and most of all sharing.
Best wishes.
Roberto
Lima, Peru.
http://members.tripod.com/~sunshinegroove/index-3.html
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 13:57:11 -0500
From: "Roberto Gonzales del Valle" <930359ATnospamaloe.ulima.edu.pe>
To: "Jose Arroyo" <jm_arroyoATnospamhotmail.com>
Cc: "Kundalini List" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Intro + some questions
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Hi Jose:
Welcome here. Have been reading your posts and waited for the intro. Thank
you. Very relaxing words. Days like this make me realize why it is good to
be on the Kundalini list.
The feeling in your head and the awareness of purifying air from your crown
and third eye seems like cleaning and establishing balance to me. I think
you are doing righ. Gush, we needed a good internal breath on the list.
Thank you for that!
Bug hug
Roberto
Lima, Peru
http://members.tripod.com/~sunshinegroove/index-3.html
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 14:22:11 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.org>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: loony bin!
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Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 12:30:18 -0400
From: gary newman <newmanATnospamtamcotec.com>
To: Kyriacos N Neocleous <kyriacosATnospamcyberdude.com>
CC: kundalini-1 <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re:Help Unsubscribe
Message-ID: <35757A19.67450688ATnospamtamcotec.com>
Please get me out of this looney-bin!
UNSUBSCRIBE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
------------------------
old song: the lunatic is on the grass....
many many faces on email pages never seen
never grasped.
The old woman is cackling,
and the little girl is
swinging her doll by its rag-hand.
the old man shakes his head
and replaces his hat.
the snake suns herself on
the rock
and the dish runs
away with the spoon ;)
the lunatic is reading right
NOW!
--gotcha! (jhampa beeps your nose and giggles half-insanely)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 15:28:34 EDT
From: Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com
To: sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Pakistan
Message-ID: <99a58167.3575a3e3ATnospamaol.com>
In a message dated 6/3/1998 10:46:44 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net writes:
<< I believe that prophecies are lucky guesses. Not one 'seer' in human
history has been shown to be 100% right 100% of the time, the reality
is a far cry from 100%. You get lucky once and the next thing you
know, your a psychic.>>
Harsha: Well put Jack! There are many self proclaimed psychics on this list. I
don't see anyone winning the big lotto yet:--). Sorry, I could not resist.
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 15:57:33 EDT
From: ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Pakistan
Message-ID: <86ae53df.3575aaafATnospamaol.com>
In a message dated 6/3/98 3:29:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com
writes:
Harsha: Well put Jack! There are many self proclaimed psychics on this list. I
don't see anyone winning the big lotto yet:--). Sorry, I could not resist.
This week's numbers are: 5, 7, 16, 42, 45, 49
(I accept tips)
xxxtg <~~~ Proclaimed Self
* The quickest way to double your money is to fold it over
and put it back in your pocket *
http://members.aol.com/Teeegeee/tgsplace.html <~~~~ on the web now!
Date: 3 Jun 98 21:10:23 +0000
From: "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Pakistan
Message-Id: <3575BBBF.MD-0.196.paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
> Harsha: Well put Jack! There are many self proclaimed psychics on this list. I
> don't see anyone winning the big lotto yet:--). Sorry, I could not resist.
>
> This week's numbers are: 5, 7, 16, 42, 45, 49
Imtgxxx,
Funny you should mention this. I've been playing the lotter in England
for the past two times. I paid 7 pounds for seven attempts and won 10
pounds. I did the same again and again have won ten pounds. I'm six
quid up now :-)
I have in the past dabbled in a few psychic things. Around the time
that the British lottery started (I don't know where you are in the
world) I was on a non-internet network that had just been set up and
we experimented with some divination - pendulum swinging. Although I
did not put any money on the lottery each time I quite often came up
with two or three correct numbers, sometimes four. I am actually
thinking of giving that another whirl and to keep some records of
success rates on my computer.
I am not sure how K might be able to help in finding out the numbers.
I have on occasion seemed to get little nods and winks from deep
within, perhaps a finger suddenly raises or there is a strange twitch
just as I'm asking a question. Maybe I can put my subconscious
pressure to use, you never know! :)
--
Paul.
IRC: #amiga, Dalnet: #blitz
WWW: http://www.stationone.demon.co.uk
E-M: paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 16:45:56 -0000
From: "Walls" <MURPHY18ATnospamprodigy.net>
To: "Mike Stickles" <msticklesATnospamaurum.com>, <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Prophecy (was RE: Pakistan)
Message-Id: <199806032045.QAA100526ATnospampimout2-int.prodigy.net>
I meant all have come to pass, with the exception of those yet to come.What
is Biblically prophesied in my opinion, is the way it's gonna be.Nothing we
think or do can change what has been prophesied in the Bible.Please
remember, this is my personal opinion!
----------
> From: Mike Stickles <msticklesATnospamaurum.com>
> To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
> Subject: RE: Prophecy (was RE: Pakistan)
> Date: Wednesday, June 03, 1998 6:52 PM
>
> << But to the best of my knowledge, not one single Biblical prophecy
> has not come to pass. >>
>
> Did you mean "not one ... has not come to pass", meaning *all* have come
to
> pass, or (as I suspect) "not one ... has come to pass", meaning none
have?
> (sorry, can't help it, I'm an amateur editor ;-)
>
> Quite a large number of Biblical prophecies have indeed come to pass. The
> usual discussion about the majority of Biblical prophecies is not whether
a
> given prophecy has come to pass, but (1) whether it was actually a
prophecy
> (i.e., was it written before or after the events it foretold?), (2)
whether
> it's so general that it was almost certain *something* would fulfill it,
or
> (3) whether fulfillment was "by design" - i.e., someone deliberately set
out
> to fulfill it (as when Jesus did something and said "for the scripture
must
> be fulfilled...").
>
> I believe in Biblical prophecy as being true prophecy - but then, I'm an
> evangelical Christian, so what else would you expect? ;-) I believe many
of
> the prophets were indeed 100% right, but as this cannot strictly be
proven
> (obviously no one would want to record their failures), your opposing
> assertion cannot be disproved. My own record at prophesying is 100%, but
> since the data set is only four prophecies, two of which were too general
to
> make much of, the odds against 100% success probably aren't yet high
enough
> to be statistically significant.
>
> However, I definitely agree that:
> << I think that intuition, synchronicity and insight are abilities
> that we all posess. Some of us are better at reading our
> intuition than others ... I also think that these abilities are
> enhanced by K-energy. >>
>
> As for:
> << Same goes for the so-called Bible 'codes'. One can find a code
> relating to just about anything, just manipulate the mathematics. >>
>
> that's just too true. A mathematician took up "Bible Code" author Michael
> Drosnin's challenge "When my critics find a message about the
assassination
> of a prime minister encrypted in Moby Dick, then I'll believe them." Sure
> enough, he found several messages about assassinations (two of prime
> ministers) in Moby Dick. See
>
> http://cs.anu.edu.au/~bdm/dilugim/moby.html
>
> If you're up to trying it yourself, and want to have some fun, check out
> James Randi's "Prophetic Moby Dick" at:
>
> http://www.randi.org/codes/prophecy.html
>
> - Mike
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 16:49:16 -0000
From: "Walls" <MURPHY18ATnospamprodigy.net>
To: "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>, <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Pakistan
Message-Id: <199806032048.QAA49920ATnospampimout2-int.prodigy.net>
I dreamt a number 8 days ago and hit boxed last night for $80.00, not too
bad considering I never play, and felt compelled to this time! :)
----------
> From: Paul West <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
> To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
> Subject: Re: Pakistan
> Date: Wednesday, June 03, 1998 9:10 PM
>
> > Harsha: Well put Jack! There are many self proclaimed psychics on this
list. I
> > don't see anyone winning the big lotto yet:--). Sorry, I could not
resist.
> >
> > This week's numbers are: 5, 7, 16, 42, 45, 49
>
> Imtgxxx,
>
> Funny you should mention this. I've been playing the lotter in England
> for the past two times. I paid 7 pounds for seven attempts and won 10
> pounds. I did the same again and again have won ten pounds. I'm six
> quid up now :-)
>
> I have in the past dabbled in a few psychic things. Around the time
> that the British lottery started (I don't know where you are in the
> world) I was on a non-internet network that had just been set up and
> we experimented with some divination - pendulum swinging. Although I
> did not put any money on the lottery each time I quite often came up
> with two or three correct numbers, sometimes four. I am actually
> thinking of giving that another whirl and to keep some records of
> success rates on my computer.
>
> I am not sure how K might be able to help in finding out the numbers.
> I have on occasion seemed to get little nods and winks from deep
> within, perhaps a finger suddenly raises or there is a strange twitch
> just as I'm asking a question. Maybe I can put my subconscious
> pressure to use, you never know! :)
>
> --
> Paul.
>
> IRC: #amiga, Dalnet: #blitz
> WWW: http://www.stationone.demon.co.uk
> E-M: paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 22:07:39 +0530 (IST)
From: Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in>
To: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: primates and meat
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I am thinking whether body should control us or we should control the
body.
love,
Anurag
>
> As always, it *is* best to attack a problem on all fronts. Raising one's
> immunity level is a good thing too. It has appeared that developing
> allergy-free substances has been easier than adjusting human bodies, though.
>
> JMHO,
> amckeon
> (with a rather uncooperative body)
>
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 16:29:50 -0600
From: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: primates and meat
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>I am thinking whether body should control us or we should control the
>body.
>
>love,
>Anurag
A good question. For myself, if I let my body control me, I wouldn't bother
to go to work in the morning.... among other things. Perhaps it's trying to
tell me something?
love,
amckeon
Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 14:04:57 -0700
From: Mary Ezzell <maryATnospamsonic.net>
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Re: The Upanishads, Heart, and the Shakti
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At 10:49 AM 6/2/98 EDT, Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com wrote:
>The rising to the Sahasarara and then going
>down to the Cave of the Heart is an experience of going to the depth of Being
>and by being "captured" and "absorbed" from the point of view of the ego.
The
>Mind-stuff, the personality, the subtle feeling of individual existence,
>merges with THAT. The "I AM" is swallowed up. It is like a death. All is
Lost.
>All Possibilities End. All is Gained. The Self Arises.
This sounds like descriptions of actual physical death I have read one
place and another. First, consciousness drawn in from the senses (no more
seeing,hearing, etc), then from the head to the heart (no more thought),
then from the abodmen to the heart (no more desire). All the 5 pranas
flowing together into the heart. A dark losing of consciousness there,
absorbtion.
Then the soul rising up through whateer channels have been opened, to exit
somewhere from the head (eye, ear, mouth, crown chakra).
I've seen this in /Tibetan Book of Living and Dying/, also in a Upanisad.
(Sort of matches the modern NDE descriptions, Betty Eadie etc. The dark
tunnel might be how someone would experience the withdrawing into the
heart, then the light tunnel from the heart up to the exit....)
Aren't there schools of meditaiton that practice something quite like this
as a sort of rehearsel, or trying to get teh right channels open and
prepared, so as to exit in the best way when real death comes?
Mary ( BD )
Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 15:26:02 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: "Kyriacos N Neocleous" <kyriacosATnospamcyberdude.com>
Cc: <NancyATnospamwtp.net>, "kundalini-1" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Getting started
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Cool it folks..:
Astric, many folks do have very difficult awakenings.. and this makes
them wish it had never happened to them.
Nancy is right, tho.. once it is started it keeps altering your life till
it's work is done. You may turn it's volume down temporarily with your free
will, but once you knock and the door is opened, it does not close again.
Nancy is also smart enough to know it is her own resistance to this
process that makes it difficult, and spreading fear is not the way to help
anyone.
I have posted a description of the K at
http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent/K.htm
What the Kundalini does, is clear out all of your Karma in this lifetime.
There is a Chinese curse that goes: "may you clear all of your Karma next
week and become enlightened.. "
That is you will become enlightened if you survive having all of your
karma come up in one week. See why it's a curse??
What Karma really is, is all of the limiting ideas you have about
yourself and deity, that says you are not limitless deity manifest.
Essentially, your ego goes bye bye, one piece at a time. Your ego is your
idea of who you are, as a limited human having physical experiences on a
planet called Earth. When you chose to incarnate and take on the veil of
separation, you grew an ego to do the job of making you think you are
separate from All that Is. The illusion of separation from limitless
manifestation and unconditional love is what your ego does. It does it so
well most folks never realize it is an illusion.
All of your fears and limits.. are the karma that is cleared.. and also,
many of the things that you think make you unique and special. They are all
gonna go out the window, every bit of negative experience stored in the
deep dark wilds of your unconscious will come up to be released.. relived
too, in some cases.
Ego fears death, and does it's own job of struggling against the process
of it's fragmentation. Since Kundalini is the most powerful force in the
universe, it always loses in the end, but when it seems like mind body and
spirit are battling for your being it can be pretty harrowing.
Your K. and your unconscious will present to you every fear and limit you
have, so you can release opinions and accept light. Sometimes it will be in
the form of dreams, visions, but if there is resistance that energy will go
into manifestation of real-time events that you might have hoped wouldn't
ever happen again.. Oy.
Like, just when the planet began to think the threat of nuclear war was
over, that which was thought most peaceful <India and Pakistan> moves to
play the drama one more time so the years of cold war fears can be truly
laid to rest.
I was born awakened, and at this place where I manifest now I know myself
to be nameless spirit having a human experience. That which I thought I
was, splintered one day into infinite shards of moments and events, of
memories that were an illusion of the past.. and I realized that every
moment of my life had happened to a different persons.. and infinity of
persons and I could not hope to ever get them sorted into what I thought I
was again. Yet, when I surrendered to being All of them at once, with
Goddess and a handful of aliens and past lives thrown in, there was a bliss
of unity that was much greater than the infinite sum of it's parts.
However, I did not decide to live as that unity till I spent some time
fearing madness and grieving sorrowfully for my dead ego.
I am all that is, Goddess manifest.. but All that Is includes Hitler and
Gandhi both.. Shadow and light in balance.
All of your judgments about who you are.. good and bad.. go foom to make
way for something bigger.
Really, trying to understand it thru any descriptions of what it is like,
is similar to trying to learn to ride a bicycle by reading about it. The
knowledge is experiential, and makes no sense till you experience it
yourself.
On the plus side. Goddess protects those who reach out to her.
K. won't give you anything you cannot handle, tho it will push your
limits till they shatter into limitlessness.
I think everybody oughta be awakened, myself, probably that's why I have
the ability to channel Shaktipat..
but some folks don't wanna, that's OK.
With regards to astral travelling, it is something everybody does
naturally, but folks think it has to be more complicated than it really is.
For years, I yearned to astral travel, but took comfort in a psychic who
told me I did not need the ability coz my psychic vision was so good there
was no need to "go" and look. Just look.
This made it very confusing years later when psychic friends started
telling me that my spirit would show up to visit them.. Wot? Finally I
realized that the travels I was making in my imagination with my ESP were
the same as astral travel.. I had actually been doing it effortless all
along, but my expectations had been to feel myself leave my body and see
the aka cords and the light body and all that.
When I surrendered to the experience more consciously, I did see that
stuff.. but it's Not necessary.
Time space doesn't really exist, so there is no "here or there" to get
to.
But wherever you go, there you are.. so when you go somewhere in your
imagination, you really are "going" there in the astral.. but it is all
within you. You are bigger than you think.
Likewise, the idea of "past lives" is also an illusory metaphor.
When we seek to find the issues of "past lives", our unconscious delves
into the Jungian Sea of all human experience, in the moment, and connects
with up with an alternate aspect of the One Self which is All of Us and
everything, to find a resonant story that will explain the current issues
in a way ego can understand.
I was working with someone just yesterday.. he said he was having trouble
with a past life as an Atlantean High Priestess who had tried several times
to unite The Male and Female temples, and failed. This past life was the
persona his own unconscious feminine self chose from the Jungian sea, to
communicate with him. The male and female "temple" it wanted to unite, and
had tried and failed, was the male-fem sides of his body. Atlantis was a
metaphor for the submerged city of his mind, the collective.
Another lifetime he had uncovered was as a Roman guard, cruelly whipping
slaves to make them pull a heavy stone block up a hill. This made him feel
very guilty like he has terrible karma to fix..
This was a metaphor for how he treats himself, in the moment: beating
himself up with guilt and "should"s .. using the whip of negative judgment
on himself to motivate him to do the things he felt had to be done. This
went along with an attitude that life must be a difficult and painful
struggle.
We get the type of metaphor we ask for.. I adjusted my programming a bit
recently, and so now it gives me novel and movie metaphors instead, which
are not so confusing as past lives.
If you are having psychic experiences, then you may already be awakened..
I feel that you are.. if you desire awakening, that is readily arranged..:)
The grounding visualization for awakening Kundalini is at
http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent/ground.htm
Please visit this page when you have 20 minutes to relax
and do the meditation, as the page is "charged" with Shakti
and keyed to be released by your free will choice to visit the page.
Blessings, Mystress.
Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 15:32:24 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: Mary Ezzell <maryATnospamsonic.net>
Cc: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Re: The Upanishads, Heart, and the Shakti
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At 02:04 PM 03/06/98 -0700, Mary Ezzell wrote:
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>Aren't there schools of meditaiton that practice something quite like this
>as a sort of rehearsel, or trying to get teh right channels open and
>prepared, so as to exit in the best way when real death comes?
>
>
>Mary ( BD )
>
I think the "Tibetan Book of the Dead" is to prepare for this experience,
in death or K. ego death.
BB, Mystress.
>
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Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 14:13:14 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in>
Cc: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com,
kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: primates and meat
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Body is a trillion times smarter than brain.. spirit's wisdom is
limitless... who do you think oughta be in charge??
BB, M.
At 10:07 PM 03/06/98 +0530, Anurag Goel wrote:
>
>I am thinking whether body should control us or we should control the
>body.
>
>love,
>Anurag
>
Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 16:04:56 PDT
From: "b bah" <happyhunaATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kyriacosATnospamcyberdude.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: DYI K-awakening is asking for it!
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hi Astric
I had a spontaneous awakening.had never meditated or taken any
psychic/spiritual classes. rarely prayed(only when i wanted something
for the world or a specific person.}
because of something that happened to me,i called to God, Arch Angel
Michael,my Higher Self, and Shakti.
The last three years have been heaven and hell and all points in
between. I got what i prayed for and a lot more.
FIND A TEACHER !!!!! DO IT YOURSELF IS FINE AROUND YOUR HOME,
Awakening K is not a diy project where you call the 24 hour plumber
when you aren't successful in making repairs. don't mean to compare
plumbers to mental health professionals... but... if you think plumbers
are expensive, wait until you need a truly great psychotherapist. I
guess what i'm trying to say is for Heavens Sakes BE CAREFUL!
Peace, barb
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