1998/05/27 06:43
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #407
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 407
Today's Topics:
Re: Killing and reason [ "Brent Blalock" <blal0004ATnospammaroon.tc ]
RE: meat [ "jb" <hc19436ATnospamautovia.com> ]
RE: The benefits of onions and garli [ "jb" <hc19436ATnospamautovia.com> ]
Eating [ "Antoine" <acarreATnospamconcentric.net> ]
Re: meat [ "Susan Carlson" <divine_goddessATnospamhot ]
Re: onions [ "jhill" <jhillATnospamsierra.net> ]
Re: Pain/pleasure [ Melody <melodyATnospampowernet.net> ]
RE: The Force of Self-Realization [ AfperryATnospamaol.com ]
Re: Killing and reason [ Danijel Turina <sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.te ]
Re: onions [ "Orea de Sa' Hana" <oreaATnospamerols.com> ]
Re: meat [ Jeanne Garner <jeannegATnospamicon.net> ]
Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 20:59:54 -0500
From: "Brent Blalock" <blal0004ATnospammaroon.tc.umn.edu>
To: "Danijel Turina" <sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.tel.hr>
Cc: "Kundalini - L" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: Killing and reason
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[[[ Part 1 - The Non-Ethics of Killing ]]]
MAS said:
> Yesterday I killed a cute fuzzy guinea pig so that my snake could eat..
>she is getting older and has a bump of scar tissue on her nose that
>interferes with her binocular vision.. she kills clumsier than I, where
>once she was swift and sure... but she must eat furry things to live.
> That is nature.. so I explained to the guinea pig while giving it love
>and thanking it for the gift of it's body before quickly ending it's life
>with a mallet thump on it's little head.
Thanking the guinea pig and sending it love could just be rationalization of
sorts. You didn't ask the guinea pig what it wanted, and no ammount of
"sending it love" can change that.
Don't get me wrong: I own a snake, too. To own a snake is to kill mice.
What's my point, then? I just think it's a little dishonest to say that
feeding a mouse to a snake is anything less than murder.
And I don't think that the mice like to be eaten, either. Most pet stores
recommend feeding the snake frozen or pre-killed mice because, more than
once, pet snakes have been killed by mice who faught back.
[[[ Part 2 - The Non-Ethics of Non-Killing ]]]
Danijel said:
>I would think thumping the snake on the head and keeping the guinea pig as
>a pet to be a more human thing to do.
I agree, but not quite for the reason you imply.
Humans have the strangest tendency to contradict themselves. The world is
filled with people who will say that something is evil and then do the thing
that they "believe" is evil. It's more than just a double-standard, where a
person will have higher expectations of other things than for themselves. A
lot of people have irrational and contradictory belief systems that they
live by, and when they notice a contradiction in their beliefs, they'll say,
"I don't know everything. I'll just take life as it comes." (Going with
the flow is just fine, but ignoring hypocricy is not.) I believe Freud
called it "repression."
I can think of a number of examples: hippies who hate conservative
business-man-types for being heartless, insane pro-lifers who blow up
doctors at abortion clinics, people who support use of the death penalty
because they secretly want revenge on those who wronged them in the past. I
can even think of far too many examples from my own life.
Sometimes I thought about people who use and exploit other people as a way
of life. I'd be mad at them for being selfish. I'd think about how much
better the world would be if they weren't selfish. Then I'd want to beat
them up until they decided to be unselfish. I wanted to hurt them or
*erase* them because I couldn't accept what they did. Being willing to hurt
someone else for being what they are is a selfish thing to do. But at the
time, it looked to me like I was the good guy -- the defender of justice.
It was all just self-repression.
So also with killing snakes because snakes kill mice. :)
Danijel also said:
> You always have a choice.
Definitely. "Not having a choice" is an excuse people sometimes use for
doing things that part of them objects to.
But with respect to feeding mice to snakes, I would wonder what the one's
choices really are. Snakes eat mice. So long as there are snakes, there
will be snakes eating mice. If you buy a snake, you must feed the snake or
it will die. And snakes are exclusively carnivores. It seems that the
choice is between killing the snake and killing the mouse.
Who "deserves" to die? The snake, because it kills as a way of life? What
did the snake do to deserve a body which can only be kept alive by preying
on animals? I don't think that either one "deserves" life more than the
other. "Deserving" has to do with what "should be", and I think that what
"should be" is something that people who repress parts of themselves create.
You could sell or release the snake, but that would just be sweeping the
problem under the carpet. The snake would still be out killing mice. It
wouldn't be "letting nature take its course", it'd be ignoring the
situation.
Life feeds on life, and the prey often suffers while being preyed on.
People often don't like that. I know it makes me feel sorta' awkward and
uncomfortable just typing it.
Danijel also said:
> To keep
>killing harmless fury things and justify that with "killing is a part of
>the nature" or to just start buying carrots and salad for the rodent. ;)
To do nothing while other things kill harmless furry things is about as bad.
(Notice I said, "as bad", not "bad".) To keep a carnivore from preying on
harmless furry things is to kill the carnivore. To kill something for
killing things is hypocrisy. I think that the search for absolute truth and
spiritual understanding that I'm on requires a certain intellectual honesty,
and I suspect that being honest will benefit you, too.
Danijel said this, too:
>Rats and gunea pigs are infinitely more sensitive and intelligent creatures
>than any snake. Millions of years of evolution ahead. Much closer to
people.
Intelligent, maybe. Scientists don't usually put snakes through mazes.
Sensitive, though? It depends. Mice have better hearing than us humans do,
but snakes have senses that mice don't have. When I approach my snake's
cage with a mouse, I can see a very noticeable change in how the snake
moves. The snake might also strike at the air, sensing prey nearby. The
mouse isn't even in the cage yet. My Ball Python can also sense heat using
holes in the front of its face. When a mouse is near the snake, it's
absolutely oblivious to what's about to happen. It just hops around and
sniffs without a care in the world.
And as for "much closer to people", that depends on which people you're
talking about...
Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 03:27:11 +0100
From: "jb" <hc19436ATnospamautovia.com>
To: "Susan Carlson" <divine_goddessATnospamhotmail.com>
Cc: <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: RE: meat
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Susan wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I am a hard core carnivore. I just dont 'feel' right if I dont eat meat.
> It may be because my ancestors are northren european rather than from
> India or other Asian countries.
>
> If i eat vegan I get extremely cold in body. If I eat lactovo(?)
> vegetarian I just dont 'feel' strong and am always hungry.
>
> If i eat a diet high in grains and starchy veggies...I have all types of
> stomach upsets, mood swings, wild energy vacillations, and problems with
> low blood sugar.
> []
If Northern Europe would be the cause of "feel great" carnivorous food, it
should affect me too. Changing from omnivore to vegetarian produced only a
better conscience but no change in health. The same goes for the change to
vegan. But the change to raw food produced remarkable results. Some of the
side-effects are: never a cold or flu, warm when it is cold (was great in
Holland/Belgium) and cool when it is warm (great here in Tenerife), never
experiencing jet-lag anymore, abundant energy, a pleasantly smelling body,
no dirt in the corners of the eyes after sleep and no smelly excrements or
perspiration. Other Northern Europeans, but without K., are also raw food
vegans or fruitarians and they experience the same side-effects. With K.,
the body-awareness is diminished more so it enhances the awareness, not to
be body but Self. As flu, cold, sensivity to climate etc. are not exactly
the marks of a great yogi, I find my diet very supportive...
Jan
Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 03:27:06 +0100
From: "jb" <hc19436ATnospamautovia.com>
To: "Anurag Goel" <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in>
Cc: <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: RE: The benefits of onions and garlic for Shakti Yogis
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Anurag Goel wrote:
> Janpa is it due to K
>
> I can't tolerate red chillis
>[]
Consider it very healthy. Red chilies are a bit poisonous and some time ago
I came across their deadly dose. Although it is unlikely (but not
impossible) to ingest that amount, often the body will start showing
symptoms of allergy with far smaller amounts. It has nothing to do with K.
In small amounts it is anti-bacterial, but so is garlic, making it
preferable as a natural anti-biotic, because even taken in large amounts
garlic won't cause allergies.
Jan
Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 23:43:28 -0400
From: "Antoine" <acarreATnospamconcentric.net>
To: "Kundalini - L" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Eating
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Boy all those emails on food got me hungry.
Energy is infinite, eating is an illusion, i guess i don't learn anything to
anyone saying that.
So why not enjoy the way we channel, receive or eat this energy.
They are thin buddhas and fat ones, so what?
As long as i enjoy existing.
So i'm going to find something lucious to injest with all my blessings.
Enjoy,
Antoine.
I could speak to you about old 200 year cognac that explode in your mouth
and body like nothing else. (k is close :-)
I could speak to you of meat of all kinds roasted and smoked with love for
hours over maple wood.
I could talk to you of all those lucious fruit directly taken from a tree in
exotic countries.
I could talk to you of a class of water drank in the desert.
I could talk about tasting the air we beath.
I could talk about the pleasure of smoking pipe.
I could talk of the benifit of taking poison.
I could talk about the habbit of eating vs braking (not changing, braking)
the habbit of eating and making it a choice.
Bla bla...
But i won't... *smile*
Sharing a meal is a very deep way to connect whit a human, at least more
than words to those who just eat and taste instead of thinking about it,
counting calories, etc. So if you pass in Montreal, let me know, if you
wan't, maybe we will be able to fell blessed while eating togueter.
Alan Watts said something interesting about americans in the 60'S.
"Americans are not materialistic they are idealistic, it reflects in the way
they eat, they prefer the idea of what they eat than the act of eating
itself. They won't take their time to prepare their meal, they cut in
everyway the real materialistic contact with what they eat. They eat the
label instead..."
It those not apply only to americans.
Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 20:56:34 PDT
From: "Susan Carlson" <divine_goddessATnospamhotmail.com>
To: divine_goddessATnospamhotmail.com, annfisherATnospamstic.net
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: meat
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Hello Ann,
>
>Hi Susan!
>
>Vegetarians do have to learn to cook right and combine the right
things.
>Most vegetables provide only partial protein, but by combining the
right
>vegetables, you get complete protein.
I was a vegetarian for quite awhile, had all the books, I know all the
proper combinations. I even was on raw foods for awhile, growing my own
food in my kitchen. I still love to eat sprouts I grow myself.
>>
>>If i eat a diet high in grains and starchy veggies...I have all types
of
>>stomach upsets, mood swings, wild energy vacillations, ...
>>
>>...I try not to drink
>>just juice...I get high, unbalanced and jittery when i do.
>
>These symptoms can come from new energy that you're just not accustomed
to
>yet.
Or from a high blood glucose which causes hyperinsulinism which leads to
low blood sugar from an over active pancreas.
I think giving it a year is enough time to get accostomed to anything.
Its more like a high carbohydrate, high grain diet fosters the growth of
candida albicans and other beasties. I was a RN for over ten years with
a bachelor's of science degree. I spent most of those years taking care
of post open heart patients and was a patient educator.
I am well read in alternative wholistic approaches as well as the
allopathic ones.
Some things just dont work for everybody. When I cut out or minimize
complex carbos the bloated feeling, intestinal pains, mood swings, and
cravings go away. I feel the best when I eat about 30 Grams of Carbos a
day which is several large green salads worth...with no starchy grains
or starchy veggies. I do eat nuts sparingly.One candy bar (even the
"health food" granola kind) easily breaks 200 Grams. My experience has
been my best teacher in this. And K leads me to do this. There is not
one alternative treatment I have not read or investigated in the last
ten years.
> Up-stream kriya can release and balance energy. But if you can get
>used to the new energy, then you've got more permanently.
I have been doing up stream kriya type techniques for years. Sometimes
doing a whole day of them leaves me craving prime rib. Keeps me from
floating off into Never Never Land.
Sometimes K leads me to fast, sometimes to eat light foods like fruit
but never have I been lead by listening to K in my body to abstain from
meat. Maybe some day....but I think because the K is so intense in my
body I need the heavier ( maybe Karma laden food if you wish) type of
proteins.
This is one area that people will always debate...some people think its
more spiritual and more healthy not to eat animals and there will be
others who can argue just as passionately the other way.
But its not what we eat, is it, that makes us closer to Self. My energy
transforms the food I eat...makes it sweeter, healthier when I bless it.
People can taste the difference. For I am only sitting down to eat a
scintillating piece of consciousness, a piece of my Self, when I eat.
For me the attitude of graciousness and gratitude is of paramount
importance when I eat, the practice of mindfulness transforms the act of
eating into a sublime rememberance of divinity.
I am rarely ill...only when cleansing toxic emotion from my emotional
body...and that passes quickly. I somewhat empathetic so i do pick up
others peoples stuff/illnesses for a short time but that is generally
pretty easy to deal with. I have also been told I clear other's karma
thru my body, makes me feel a little like I have the flu.
Its only through experimentation and reading and practice thru the years
that I finally allow my body to choose what it wants to eat, not what
other people insist it should eat because its considered morally right,
more spiritual in the moment, whatever.
Blessings,
Susan
>
>
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Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 22:39:52 -0700
From: "jhill" <jhillATnospamsierra.net>
To: <oreaATnospamerols.com>, "kl List" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: onions
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Is there a basic "anything" document or reference about kundalini? For
someone as new as I am, anything will help. Much of the banter is fun, but
referring to an inside joke, I don't quite get it. Grace & peace. Jennifer
jhillATnospamsierra.net
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From: Orea de Sa' Hana <oreaATnospamerols.com>
To: kl List <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Date: Tuesday, May 26, 1998 10:15 AM
Subject: re: onions
>Hi janpa,
>I was just asking Dhenish about this. It doesn't answer all of your
questions
>but I hope it helps! :-)
>Love, Orea
>
>Dhenish wrote:
>
>> Hi: Orea, actually they should not be consumed when doing strict
>> austerities; otherwise it is pretty much up to the individual. In the
>> beginning of meditation, such sacrifices are helpful. When we feel well
>> established in our practices, they will do no harm. An advanced
meditator
>> can eat anything without bad effects. But during periods of intense
>> practice where we hope to achieve something, it is better to leave them;
>> meat, alcohol and sex and anger blah, blah alone for the duration of the
>> austirity. Otherwise it is an individual thing. In the east
vegetarianism
>> is well suited. In this country, it can be a trial, and best left to the
>> individual to decided. Indrus Shah, a Sufi mystic, was a vegetarian upon
>> coming here, but after living in the USA for awhile, started including
>> small amounts of meat in his diet. He simply felt better. The vibs here
>> are very rajastic, fast and fierce.
>> I was a strict vegetarian for ten years and gradually started
>> taking in a little meat from time to time. Giving it up for
'austurities'.
>> I do not feel in the least unspiritual by my diet. In the final
analysis,
>> no one eats their way to heaven. Use your 'not-so-common' common sense.
>
>
>
>
Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 23:14:26 -0700
From: Melody <melodyATnospampowernet.net>
To: lissetteATnospampop/bridge.net
CC: Druout <DruoutATnospamaol.com>, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Pain/pleasure
Message-ID: <356BAF41.F38B53B4ATnospampowernet.net>
I think it's got too many "http's" in it! It should be:
http://www.wp.com/ns/
Dolce Vita wrote:
> HI
> I clicked on http://www.http://www.wp.com/ns/ but it does not work, do
> you have the correct one?
> It says that address does not have the right DNS entry...
>
> Love,
> Lissette
Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 04:56:14 EDT
From: AfperryATnospamaol.com
To: hc19436ATnospamautovia.com
Cc: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: RE: The Force of Self-Realization
Message-ID: <7680e3e6.356bd530ATnospamaol.com>
Dear Jan,
In a message dated 26/5/98 9:14:15 pm, you wrote:
> So the difference
>between the two is only a difference in degree, not in essence. Without K.,
>nothing goes.
Yes, this is how I feel about it. In purely mechanistic terms, one cannot
experience the higher states of consciousness without K activity because it is
precisely this activity that brings these states about. Both Sri Ramakrishna
and Vivekananda were at pains to emphasise this and it is certainly my own
personal experience also. But our own awareness of this process is co-
incidental, including overt signs as Ann mentioned, 'cos it's happening just
the same. Whooppee................
With blessings,
Alan
Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 12:45:17 +0200
From: Danijel Turina <sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.tel.hr>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Killing and reason
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At 18:54 1998.05.26 -0700, Angelique wrote:
>At 12:45 AM 27/05/98 +0200, Danijel Turina wrote :
>>I would think thumping the snake on the head and keeping the guinea pig as
>>a pet to be a more human thing to do. You always have a choice. To keep
>>killing harmless fury things and justify that with "killing is a part of
>>the nature" or to just start buying carrots and salad for the rodent. ;)
>
> Judge as you will. Have fun at it, I know it to be a human thing to do.
I prefer judgments to self-justification.
> The pig is not a rare thing...
Human being is not a rare thing either, six billions of us out there... And
you can always justify any amount of violence and death with the statement
"there's too many of us anyway"... as long as it isn't your life that is
talked about in these terms. "Culture of life" and "culture of death"... I
think the Pope has the point there. Although I don't think he followed the
implications of it to their limits. It is a choice: more
violence/death/fear over less. Or vice versa. Eating the salad is some sort
of violence. Eating meat is some sort of violence too. There are people who
say it is the same. I am not one of them.
One example. Human body in the normal state of development needs food to
exist. If there is no choice (Tibet or similar areas), it must be obtained
from animal sources. If there is a choice of vegetable diet, and one still
chooses to eat meat... I will spare you my judgments, you have obviously
"outgrown" them a long time ago... killed your conscience so you could kill
without remorse. Have fun in your world of fear.
>not even a natural thing, having been bred
>by humans for their uses (including human food) for many generations.
Very good. Soon people would be bred for spare organs. Very good. Just no
judgments please, they might start the guilt and remorse, and those are
"negative emotions"... better transmute them to white light so they won't
disturb your sleep.
> The serpent is having it's natural rain forest habitat destroyed by
>uncaring humans, and if there are not those to care for that which others
>scorn as un evolved, they will disappear.
Serpents and scorpions and viruses have their purpouse in the world. But
having one at home as a pet means accepting that frame of behavior/values.
Killing without mercy.
> The human thing to do, indeed.. thump the serpent with a bulldozer. Sad,
>eh??
Is that non-judgment or self-justification? Tell me, oh lightworker, oh
ground crew of the Goddess almighty?
> You want to kill my snake for the sake of killing. Not for food, but out
>of your own negative judgements. Very, very human, yes indeedy.
I don't want to kill your snake, I don't want to have anything to do with
it. That's why I don't have to kill cute harmless creatures to feed it.
That's my choice. How the snakes survive in the nature, I know, but I don't
feel the need to help them.
> The snake is an ancient symbol of the planet, and of K. itself. It is
Yeah, very sacred, sword is also a symbol of the planet, very cool if you
hold it in your hand, very uncool if someone splits your head in two with one.
>sacred. It has not evolved since before humans started to, because it is
>already a perfect manifestation of Goddess.
Yes, frozen evolution is perfect... Rocks also don't change much, it must
be that they are the most perfect manifestations of Goddess there is.
> Fact is, my keeping a mammal for pet would be cruel, coz my ADD addled
>brain would forget to feed it every day.. it would get a very poor quality
>of life.. I gave away the budgie and the iguana for that very reason.
> Why not go thump your own beloved pet too, eh? So long as you are wanting
>to kill for no reason..
But you are wrong, there is a reason... you have a choice of not only two
lives: you have one life of the snake, and many lives of other animals,
gentle and harmless. Will you choose the side of the killer or the victim?
Will you be the guardian and the protector, or the predator? The choice
exists. Two sides of the Force. They are both irrelevant, as much as it is
irrelevant for Self whether it exists in no forms, all the forms, or some
of them, as much as the state of the forms is also irrelevant. There is no
difference between Hitler and Jesus, between Torquemada and Giordano Bruno.
But as individual beings we make choices for either gentleness or cruelty,
selfishness or devotion, dark murder or clear light and beauty. It is
necessary to inflict pain sometimes to produce growth. It is necessary to
break the molds to create new reality. If it means growth. But it is not
the thing that would justify the atavistic longing for death and darkness.
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Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 09:10:53 -0400
From: "Orea de Sa' Hana" <oreaATnospamerols.com>
To: jhill <jhillATnospamsierra.net>, kl List <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: onions
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Hi Jennifer,
I have a couple of books on order from amazon.com, I'll let you know if they
are any good. In the meantime, don't be afraid to ask questions around here.
I have been on here for a few months now and more and more is making sense to
me.
Blessings, Orea
jhill wrote:
> Is there a basic "anything" document or reference about kundalini? For
> someone as new as I am, anything will help. Much of the banter is fun, but
> referring to an inside joke, I don't quite get it. Grace & peace. Jennifer
> jhillATnospamsierra.net
>
>
Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 08:36:20
From: Jeanne Garner <jeannegATnospamicon.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: meat
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At 08:56 PM 5/26/98 PDT, Susan Carlson wrote:
>I think giving it a year is enough time to get accostomed to anything.
Susan and all--I gave it a couple of years, and like you , I did NOT get
accustomed to it. My energy dwindled away, I gained unhealthy weight, I
had excruciating headaches, and although I didn't think I was dying, there
were times when I wished I would.
Then I was told by one of my yoga teachers that I should eat some meat.
This totally shocked the part of me that wanted to be "spiritually
correct." However, when I started adding animal protein to my diet, these
symptoms literally disappeared.
Time passed; again, I started eating more grains, and less meat. My very
ill condition returned--so I returned to the way I now know is healthy for me.
>Some things just dont work for everybody.
And here is the key! Look, folks, one size =never= fits all. You can't
stuff every human on this planet into one mold for anything; not for
spiritual paths, not for clothing sizes, not for medications, and least of
all, not for diets.
For those who will counter with "but you're killing..." let me paraphrase
from that same yoga teacher, who often reminded us that everything has
consciousness; everything has life, and wants to live. It's the way of the
Universe. If someone thinks one type of consciousness is somehow "higher"
than another, think again. The same Divine wisdom that dwells in humans
permeates the leaf of lettuce and the bean sprout. I've known trees that
shared a beautiful, patient sort of wisdom--and yet yogis and mystics
everywhere live inside wooden walls and eat their vegetables on wooden
tables.
I believe, as my yoga teacher did, that what matters is the reverence with
which someone approaches the meal. Many beings died that I may have
sustenance, and one day, I will die and return the favor for other
creatures.
>This is one area that people will always debate...some people think its
>more spiritual and more healthy not to eat animals and there will be
>others who can argue just as passionately the other way.
I have no doubt whatever that for some, vegetarianism is the best diet.
It's not just a spiritual thing, either. However, vegetarianism alone is
not going to make someone more spiritually advanced. In fact, I've sure
known a lot of judgmental, narrow minded, non-compassionate vegetarians,
and that's because, as you say:
>But its not what we eat, is it, that makes us closer to Self. My energy
>transforms the food I eat...makes it sweeter, healthier when I bless it.
>People can taste the difference. For I am only sitting down to eat a
>scintillating piece of consciousness, a piece of my Self, when I eat.
>For me the attitude of graciousness and gratitude is of paramount
>importance when I eat, the practice of mindfulness transforms the act of
>eating into a sublime rememberance of divinity.
Jeanne
==-* My stars!
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