1998/05/26 12:39
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #405
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 405
Today's Topics:
Thankyou and Goodbye [ "Peter A. Salzman" <psalzmanATnospamwesley ]
Re: thanks!/for Kirsten too! [ "Gloria Lee" <samyanaATnospamhotmail.com> ]
Odes to Shakti? [ "Sharon Webb" <shawebbATnospamyhc.edu> ]
Re: Very new [ Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iis ]
Re: Re: Very new [ Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com> ]
Re: Very new [ "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.or ]
onions. [ "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.or ]
30 day move [ "Solar Lion" <gtaATnospamlanset.com> ]
The benefits of onions and garlic fo [ Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com> ]
Re: The benefits of onions and garli [ "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.or ]
re: onions [ "Orea de Sa' Hana" <oreaATnospamerols.com> ]
AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Cen [ Paul Dons <paul.donsATnospamping.be> ]
Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 11:15:20 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Peter A. Salzman" <psalzmanATnospamwesleyan.edu>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Thankyou and Goodbye
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980526110645.26939A-100000ATnospammail.wesleyan.edu>
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To the members of this electric tribe,
I want to thank you for teaching me much and for opening and widening my
vision and experience of kundalini. I am leaving my permanent residence
and will not be able to email regularly so I will have to also leave this
list. It was a short and bitter-sweet time with you all. Take care, be
well, and manifest, manifest, manifest...
love pete
may the long time sun shine upon you
all love surround you
and the pure light within you
guide you all the way on
may the long time sun shine upon you
all love surround you
and the pure light within you
guide you all the way on
may the long time sun shine upon you
all love surround you
and the pure light within you
guide you all the way on
may the long time sun shine upon you
all love surround you
and the pure light within you
guide you all the way on
may the long time sun shine upon you
all love surround you
and the pure light within you
guide you all the way on
may the long time sun shine upon you
all love surround you
and the pure light within you
guide you all the way on
may the long time sun shine upon you
all love surround you
and the pure light within you
guide you all the way on
may the long time sun shine upon you
all love surround you
and the pure light within you
guide you all the way on
may the long time sun shine upon you
all love surround you
and the pure light within you
guide you all the way on
may the long time sun shine upon you
all love surround you
and the pure light within you
guide you all the way on
may the long time sun shine upon you
all love surround you
and the pure light within you
guide you all the way on
may the long time sun shine upon you
all love surround you
and the pure light within you
guide you all the way on
may the long time sun shine upon you
all love surround you
and the pure light within you
guide you all the way on
may the long time sun shine upon you
all love surround you
and the pure light within you
guide you all the way on
may the long time sun shine upon you
all love surround you
and the pure light within you
guide you all the way on
may the long time sun shine upon you
all love surround you
and the pure light within you
guide you all the way on
may the long time sun shine upon you
all love surround you
and the pure light within you
guide you all the way on
may the long time sun shine upon you
all love surround you
and the pure light within you
guide you all the way on
may the long time sun shine upon you
all love surround you
and the pure light within you
guide you all the way on
may the long time sun shine upon you
all love surround you
and the pure light within you
guide you all the way on
may the long time sun shine upon you
all love surround you
and the pure light within you
guide you all the way on
may the long time sun shine upon you
all love surround you
and the pure light within you
guide you all the way on
may the long time sun shine upon you
all love surround you
and the pure light within you
guide you all the way on
may the long time sun shine upon you
all love surround you
and the pure light within you
guide you all the way on
may the long time sun shine upon you
all love surround you
and the pure light within you
guide you all the way on
may the long time sun shine upon you
all love surround you
and the pure light within you
guide you all the way on
may the long time sun shine upon you
all love surround you
and the pure light within you
guide you all the way on
may the long time sun shine upon you
all love surround you
and the pure light within you
guide you all the way on
may the long time sun shine upon you
all love surround you
and the pure light within you
guide you all the way on
may the long time sun shine upon you
all love surround you
and the pure light within you
guide you all the way on
may the long time sun shine upon you
all love surround you
and the pure light within you
guide you all the way on
may the long time sun shine upon you
all love surround you
and the pure light within you
guide you all the way on
may the long time sun shine upon you
all love surround you
and the pure light within you
guide you all the way on
may the long time sun shine upon you
all love surround you
and the pure light within you
guide you all the way on
may the long time sun shine upon you
all love surround you
and the pure light within you
guide you all the way on
may the long time sun shine upon you
all love surround you
and the pure light within you
guide you all the way on
may the long time sun shine upon you
all love surround you
and the pure light within you
guide you all the way on
may the long time sun shine upon you
all love surround you
and the pure light within you
guide you all the way on
may the long time sun shine upon you
all love surround you
and the pure light within you
guide you all the way on
may the long time sun shine upon you
all love surround you
and the pure light within you
guide you all the way on
may the long time sun shine upon you
all love surround you
and the pure light within you
guide you all the way on
may the long time sun shine upon you
all love surround you
and the pure light within you
guide you all the way on
may the long time sun shine upon you
all love surround you
and the pure light within you
guide you all the way on
may the long time sun shine upon you
all love surround you
and the pure light within you
guide you all the way on
may the long time sun shine upon you
all love surround you
and the pure light within you
guide you all the way on
may the long time sun shine upon you
all love surround you
and the pure light within you
guide you all the way on
may the long time sun shine upon you
all love surround you
and the pure light within you
guide you all the way on
may the long time sun shine upon you
all love surround you
and the pure light within you
guide you all the way on
may the long time sun shine upon you
all love surround you
and the pure light within you
guide you all the way on
may the long time sun shine upon you
all love surround you
and the pure light within you
guide you all the way on
may the long time sun shine upon you
all love surround you
and the pure light within you
guide you all the way on
may the long time sun shine upon you
all love surround you
and the pure light within you
guide you all the way on
may the long time sun shine upon you
all love surround you
and the pure light within you
guide you all the way on
may the long time sun shine upon you
all love surround you
and the pure light within you
guide you all the way on
may the long time sun shine upon you
all love surround you
and the pure light within you
guide you all the way on
may the long time sun shine upon you
all love surround you
and the pure light within you
guide you all the way on
may the long time sun shine upon you
all love surround you
and the pure light within you
guide you all the way on
may the long time sun shine upon you
all love surround you
and the pure light within you
guide you all the way on
may the long time sun shine upon you
all love surround you
and the pure light within you
guide you all the way on
may the long time sun shine upon you
all love surround you
and the pure light within you
guide you all the way on
may the long time sun shine upon you
all love surround you
and the pure light within you
guide you all the way on
may the long time sun shine upon you
all love surround you
and the pure light within you
guide you all the way on
may the long time sun shine upon you
all love surround you
and the pure light within you
guide you all the way on
may the long time sun shine upon you
all love surround you
and the pure light within you
guide you all the way on
may the long time sun shine upon you
all love surround you
and the pure light within you
guide you all the way on
may the long time sun shine upon you
all love surround you
and the pure light within you
guide you all the way on
may the long time sun shine upon you
all love surround you
and the pure light within you
guide you all the way on
may the long time sun shine upon you
all love surround you
and the pure light within you
guide you all the way on
may the long time sun shine upon you
all love surround you
and the pure light within you
guide you all the way on
may the long time sun shine upon you
all love surround you
and the pure light within you
guide you all the way on
may the long time sun shine upon you
all love surround you
and the pure light within you
guide you all the way on
and on and on and on and on and on and on and............................
Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 08:28:15 PDT
From: "Gloria Lee" <samyanaATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com, jenny.hillATnospammail.utexas.edu
Subject: Re: thanks!/for Kirsten too!
Message-ID: <19980526152820.1616.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
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>From: jenny.hillATnospammail.utexas.edu (Jenny)
>Subject: thanks!
><SNIP>
>
>
>Yes, yes, yes Gloria! the thing is, if you've always been one who could
and
>did take care of everything for yourself, who did always "pull yourself
up
>by your own bootstraps" then the test is NOT to fix yourself... but to
go
>through the expereince of being broken and losing all the control that
was
>so important to ego... so Spirit can finally step in and run things.
>Kristin is apparently most imminently ready to help herself...
>paradoxically because she has no choice now but to exist in the pain.
The
>"here's what you can do to fix things" approach will not work, since
>getting over "fixing herself" is the whole point of this pain.
*****SO TRUE!!!!********
Dear Jenny,
I see that you too have "been there"..how much good it may do to discuss
Kirsten in absentia..I dunno. Sometimes it helps for people to share
their own stories..if it doesn't seem too "different in the details"
for her to realize we are talking about the same kind of experiences.
Maybe it would be easier for Kirsten to see if someone had a very
similar story to hers, but actually anything which brings you to the
"end of your usual ego-coping methods" will produce this experience of
some inescapable pain and spiritual crisis. That it even is occuring is
a sign that her higher self has chosen this time as the opportunity.
Whether this is just a recurrence of a killer depression or a spiritual
crisis...there is no harm in getting meds and talking to her therapist.
To just say hang in there and wait for the miracle may sound flip...to
Kirsten. But somehow what emerges to sustain you does not seem to come
from you..unless its finding some part of yourself you never knew
before.
>
>
<SNIP> but I did have to contend with a whole lot of that
>coming from my own head... one piece of my torture was my ego screaming
>"GET A GRIP!!!"
>This feeling made me feel like I deserved to die, I was unworthy to
>continue to exist, no one who was as big a mess as me deserved to
continue
>breathing. Kristin has reiterated the same feeling. The situation that
>she's in, and that I was in, is a paradox, one that's hard to
understand
>unless you've been there....
YES....Maybe, if Kirsten asks..we can share more about our own
experiences with her. What I do remember is just how utterly useless
most people were to me at that time. It is so hard for most people to
affirm the "negative" experiences...one usually just shuts up and shuts
down. So please, Kirsten, keep talking to us..this is not only a
survivable experience, but one that will ultimately benefit you. You
have been brave enough to share here, but then you have to sort thru the
responses you get. Save some for another day..they may later make more
sense to you. When you feel like its taking all your energy just to
keep on breathing and going on..the last thing you want is something
"more" to do. Just try to trust that what is happening will make sense
later. Try to realize that even "unwelcome or unhelpful" seeming advice
is still a sign that some one cares, so find some comfort even in that.
Just hang in with this process and hang out with us.. you are doing ok,
even..really. Trust that your help WILL will show up.
With love,
Glo
>
>
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Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 12:22:51 -0400
From: "Sharon Webb" <shawebbATnospamyhc.edu>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Odes to Shakti?
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Classic Kundalini Songs? Odes to Shakti?
Long Ago (And Far Away)
lyrics by Ira Gershwin, music by Jerome Kern
------------------
Long ago and far away, I dreamed a dream one day
And now that dream is here beside me
Long the skies were overcast but now the clouds have passed
You're here at last.
Chills run up and down my spine, Aladdin's lamp is mine
The dream I dreamed was not denied me
Just one look and then I knew
That all I longed for long ago was you.
------------------
:-)
Sharon
shawebbATnospamyhc.edu
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Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 21:18:33 +0530 (IST)
From: Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in>
To: SAJID SIDDIQUE <sajidATnospamnest.stpt.soft.net>
cc: "'kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com'" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Very new
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.93.980526211438.11709A-100000ATnospamBhaskara>
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Hi,
I think the best would be to take Shaktipfrom a SADGURU. Avoid sex,
Satvik Food, Practice eight niyamas of Yama,Pranayama.But seek the
guidance of an able Guru before geeting in to it.
Love,
anurag
On Mon, 25 May 1998, SAJID SIDDIQUE wrote:
> Hai
> i am very new to this subject,got this web site from internet when i
> searched
> for the information about kundalini,can anyone give me the details about
> the first or starting step i have to take in this ,what all are the
> things i have t control to acquire this is food,sex etc is to be
> controlled,pls send me the details i will be grateful to u
>
> sajid
>
> SAJID.P.SIDDIQUE
> http://www.nestindia.com
> NeST,TECHNOPARK
>
>
>
Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 12:37:20 EDT
From: Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com>
To: anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in, sajidATnospamnest.stpt.soft.net
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Re: Very new
Message-ID: <73db60c8.356aefc1ATnospamaol.com>
In a message dated 5/26/1998, 12:33:42 PM, anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in
writes:
<<Hi,
I think the best would be to take Shaktipfrom a SADGURU. Avoid sex,>>
Harsha: Would it not be better to approach a HAPPYGURU?
Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 11:40:09 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.org>
To: Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in>
cc: SAJID SIDDIQUE <sajidATnospamnest.stpt.soft.net>,
"'kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com'" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>,
kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Very new
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Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
On Tue, 26 May 1998, Anurag Goel wrote:
>
>
> Hi,
> I think the best would be to take Shaktipfrom a SADGURU. Avoid sex,
> Satvik Food, Practice eight niyamas of Yama,Pranayama.But seek the
> guidance of an able Guru before geeting in to it.
why not from a happy guru :)?
does the guru have to be sad ;)?
sorry couldnt resist the language fun.
--janpa
Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 11:42:34 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.org>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: onions.
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980526114017.15194J-100000ATnospamwinc0>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
what exactly is going on with onions & garlic? i know these are on the
list of 'foods that goof up kundalini' along with meat & such other
things, but my Q is, how does this process work?
And why doesnt it seem to affect everyone who is K-active? i know
the List Mystress is not a vegetarian.
*shrug* just curious.
--janpa
Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 09:49:06 -0700
From: "Solar Lion" <gtaATnospamlanset.com>
To: "Betty Williams" <williamsATnospamcastles.com>
Cc: "Ronald Garvin" <herofontATnospamcwnet.com>, "Rex English" <rexaeATnospamix.netcom.com>,
"PHOENIX-L mail list" <PHOENIX-LATnospamHOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>,
"MRS_JENNIFER_L_PEDERSEN" <DTSC17BATnospamprodigy.com>,
"MaryLyn Fucell" <marylynATnospamrcip.com>,
"kundalini-l mail list" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>,
"Jeanette Elton" <eltonjeATnospammarket1.com>, <hlynnhATnospammyriad.net>,
"Ed Elton" <edeltonATnospamaol.com>, "Carter Redding" <cereddingATnospamaol.com>,
"Carol Burnnette" <newdawnATnospamimcnet.net>, <renglishATnospamhphosp.org>,
<JancoATnospamgvtc.com>
Subject: 30 day move
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we will be moving in a forced move within 30 days due to the
owner losing the house we live in.
you may still contact us at gtaATnospamlanset.com
and the web site will still be up at http://www.lanset.com/gta/
we will not be online much for awhile but will notify you
when we get settled elsewhere.
Bob and Betty
Solar Lion
Gateway to Awareness
Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 12:55:43 EDT
From: Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com>
To: dorf01ATnospammail.win.org, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: The benefits of onions and garlic for Shakti Yogis
Message-ID: <f451b411.356af410ATnospamaol.com>
In a message dated 5/26/1998, 12:42:49 PM, dorf01ATnospammail.win.org writes:
<<what exactly is going on with onions & garlic? i know these are on the
list of 'foods that goof up kundalini' along with meat & such other
things, but my Q is, how does this process work?
>>
Harsha: I love onions (particularly vidala onions because they are sweet) and
garlic. Love them raw. Indian chutneys (at least the way my father always
makes them) have huge quantities of raw onions and garlic among other things.
The scriptures say that the practice of Yoga makes the Yogi very beautiful and
also makes him smell like perfume. Well garlic and onions are the best way to
counter that effect. Otherwise these women just don't leave you alone!
Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 12:00:31 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.org>
To: Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com>
cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: The benefits of onions and garlic for Shakti Yogis
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980526115846.15194L-100000ATnospamwinc0>
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On Tue, 26 May 1998, Harsha1MTM wrote:
> Harsha: I love onions (particularly vidala onions because they are sweet) and
> garlic. Love them raw. Indian chutneys (at least the way my father always
> makes them) have huge quantities of raw onions and garlic among other things.
> The scriptures say that the practice of Yoga makes the Yogi very beautiful and
> also makes him smell like perfume. Well garlic and onions are the best way to
> counter that effect. Otherwise these women just don't leave you alone!
hehehehe, and does that work on a yogini too?
(onions just make my tummy ill mostly...) :)
-j
Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 13:23:01 -0400
From: "Orea de Sa' Hana" <oreaATnospamerols.com>
To: kl List <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: re: onions
Message-ID: <356AFA74.2522EFC5ATnospamerols.com>
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Hi janpa,
I was just asking Dhenish about this. It doesn't answer all of your questions
but I hope it helps! :-)
Love, Orea
Dhenish wrote:
> Hi: Orea, actually they should not be consumed when doing strict
> austerities; otherwise it is pretty much up to the individual. In the
> beginning of meditation, such sacrifices are helpful. When we feel well
> established in our practices, they will do no harm. An advanced meditator
> can eat anything without bad effects. But during periods of intense
> practice where we hope to achieve something, it is better to leave them;
> meat, alcohol and sex and anger blah, blah alone for the duration of the
> austirity. Otherwise it is an individual thing. In the east vegetarianism
> is well suited. In this country, it can be a trial, and best left to the
> individual to decided. Indrus Shah, a Sufi mystic, was a vegetarian upon
> coming here, but after living in the USA for awhile, started including
> small amounts of meat in his diet. He simply felt better. The vibs here
> are very rajastic, fast and fierce.
> I was a strict vegetarian for ten years and gradually started
> taking in a little meat from time to time. Giving it up for 'austurities'.
> I do not feel in the least unspiritual by my diet. In the final analysis,
> no one eats their way to heaven. Use your 'not-so-common' common sense.
Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 08:23:29 -1000 (HST)
From: Paul Dons <paul.donsATnospamping.be>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
Message-Id: <199805261823.IAA15670ATnospamhaleakala.aloha.net>
QUESTION ABOUT ETHERIUM RED AND KUNDALINI.
------------------------------------------
I have a little question about a website that has a connection to
Kundalini. Maybe it is a stupid question - i'm new to the list - so
forgive me in that case.
The website is : http://www.etherium.com
I found this site by accident, searching for information about the
root chacra, and was really surprised to see that one can buy the
so-called "Etherium Red" on this site. "Etherium Red seems to be a
naturally occurring trace mineral that facilitates an awakening of
kundalini in the root chakra."
Has anyone of you had any experience with this mineral ? Is it useless
or even dangerous ? Should i avoid bying this stuff (i haven't bought
it yet) ? Is it a sort of drug ? Or can it really be a usefull trigger
in a process of K-awakening ?
Greetings from Belgium (Europe).
Paul Dons.
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