1998/05/21 12:37
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #390
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 390
Today's Topics:
AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Cen [ Kimberly Ivy <kimivyATnospamix.netcom.com> ]
Re: Re: solong [ Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com> ]
Fwd: FW: Please continue to pray for [ "zarcon pitom" <zarconpitomATnospamhotmail ]
Re: Re: The Story of a Smile [ Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com> ]
Re: Ill [ Jeanne Garner <jeannegATnospamicon.net> ]
Pranayama, Kundalini and Science (wa [ Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com> ]
Re: Ill [ "Antoine" <acarreATnospamconcentric.net> ]
Re: Bliss, pain and suffering [ "Brent Blalock" <blal0004ATnospammaroon.tc ]
Re: The big one - explosions [ Druout <DruoutATnospamaol.com> ]
Re: Scientific studies of Kundalin p [ Druout <DruoutATnospamaol.com> ]
Re: The big one - explosions [ Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic ]
Re: Scientific studies of Kundalin p [ Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic ]
Re: Scientific studies of Kundalin p [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
Re: pain [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
Re: Sleepy [ Paul West <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co ]
Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 03:07:01 -1000 (HST)
From: Kimberly Ivy <kimivyATnospamix.netcom.com>
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Hello,
I am new to the list and am joining to both learn more and get some feedback. I have been a practitioner of the Martial Arts and Yoga for 20 years. Currently I practice tai chi and chi kung as much as 25 hours a week due to the fact that I teach for a living. During this past month I have experienced a myriad of very disorienting symptoms that include intense vertigo, naseau, vivid dreams, almost unbearable feeling of swelling in my head, cloudy thinking, emotional swings, confusion, and intense peace. A friend of mine called the "relentless kundalini". I had a very powerful kundalini experience over 10 years ago that was nothing like this and was over in one hour. I am searching the net for some information on these current experiences. I am concerned as the moment I do any of my practices I become dizzy and disoriented and loose my balance. Thanks!
K
Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 09:06:41 EDT
From: Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com>
To: peswaniATnospamgiaspn01.vsnl.net.in, trexisATnospamjuno.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Re: solong
Message-ID: <5be68fdc.356426e2ATnospamaol.com>
In a message dated 5/21/1998, 6:17:12 AM, peswaniATnospamgiaspn01.vsnl.net.in writes:
<< Edward
Prayer/devotin though helpful was not for me as per Inner Voice.
I am on the right path. Aperson moving towards Moksh passes thro dark
night of soul once before his last ego dissolves.
On my path of Boddhisattva/adept/master a second night of dark
soul comes. this experience is different from earlier one.
Moreover a conviction that Higher Intelligent Energy is totally in
control and nothing further can be added to this Universe. Everything we
do is a game, so this temporary withdrawl.
I am in search of a list on Buddhism which can help me to either
break or strengthen this Boddhisattva conviction of mine though even this
also does not matter.
Nothing (peswani)
>>
Harsha: My dearest Peshwani Ji. You are a splendid and one of the funniest
persons around. God bless you and may your life be full of joy. Furthermore,
may your search for the right list on Buddhism end in success.
Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 06:14:41 PDT
From: "zarcon pitom" <zarconpitomATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Fwd: FW: Please continue to pray for the ethnic Chinese in
Indonesia
Message-ID: <19980521131441.6948.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
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>==Forwarded message follows==
>
>>Zarcon, I thought you might like to know about this.
>>Some friend emailed this to me and reflect what it really is like
>for >a Chinese amidst the Indonesia crisis.
>>---=-------====-=
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>>These past few weeks, there have been a lot of demonstrations held by
>>the students in all over Indonesia. Their intentions're true for the
>>sake of the people and of course the people backed them up
>>wholeheartedly. Tensions're all over rural area, but not in Jakarta,
>>since all people considered it as the capital city and the safest
city.
>>
>>Things have just changed, Jakarta is now center of the chaos. It
started
>>when a misfortunate event occurred in my neighbour university,
>>Universitas Trisakti, where 6 students reported killed by the army
>>during demonstration in May 13, 1998. It brought shockwaves all over
the
>>world and began the worst of Indonesia predicament. May 14, while the
>>students were in the moment of mourn, the mass took advantages and
>>started to destroy buildings and cars then burnt them down. The whole
>>things spread so quickly, in a matter of hours, Jakarta was like in a
>>civil war. The issue is NOT the assertion of students aspirations
>>anymore, nor the reform act, simply plundering and looting by the same
>>Indonesian citizens who has been staying in Jakarta all their lives as
>>we, Chinese, have too.
>>
>>Yesterday, they invaded my house. At first, they only threw some rocks
>>to the windows/doors and they forced to open the gate. They failed
their
>>first attempt. So they just continue to throw rocks around the house
>>once in a while. Everybody in my house (Dad, Uncle, Auntie, us 3
>>sisters, 3 servants and couple of drivers) were terrified and have
>>already prepared things to evacuate. But things seemed to be a bit
>>calmer, then suddenly they managed to get inside and forced us to
leave
>>the house. They're shouting at us, violently pushed us out, and beat
>us >up. Dad and I had to kneel down and apologize to them, to beg
>them not >to hurt our family and to let us leave. Luckily, there're
>our kind >native neighbours who were able to stop them and protected
>us. We're >escorted back to our house, and several kind neighbours
>said they would >guarantee our safety then they really guarded our
>house the whole night. >I'm really grateful and wish may God bless
>them. >
>>I've never been so scared in my live before. I was trembling and
shaking
>>last night, thinking what could happen to us, especially after I saw
what
>>Dad almost did. Dad were prepared to give up everything for the sake
of
>>his daughters. We've past the horrible night alright, but we're still
>>live in horror and not knowing when this unfortunate faith will be
over.
>>Evacuate? To where? As far as the Chinese can see, there's no safe
place
>>for them. I tried to stay calm but I'm still feeling the same tension
I
>>felt last night. I jump when I hear someone shout, my heart beat like
>>hell when I hear loud noise, I want to cry when I hear rocks thrown to
my
>>housewalls.
>>
>>May God be with us, and I suppose we're quite lucky compare to other
>>Chineses in Jakarta. Other worse things had happened to the minorities
>>and nothing can stop them. The mobs gladly looted us, cheerfully burnt
>>our properties, and joyfully dancing infront of the news camera while
>>doing so.
>>
>>I'm not trying to put all the blame on the native Indonesians, even it
>>was a racial attempt and on the other hand it was the natives also who
>>have saved our lives. This is one of my way to seek help, that's why I
>>ask you to at least spread this story around, if God allows maybe
>>someone with the capability to help us can read this and help us. Or
>>maybe you can do something with your government. Or maybe you can pray
>>for us. Or anything. Please.
>>
>>Christine
>
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Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 09:18:25 EDT
From: Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com>
To: eeaATnospamaug.com, Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com, dorf01ATnospammail.win.org
Cc: paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com,
kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Re: The Story of a Smile
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In a message dated 5/21/1998, 4:26:07 AM, eeaATnospamaug.com writes:
<<As I read your post I was pulled back to that moment of time and
place. I could here the train roaring through the tunnel. For an
instant I was you, Harsha, and then I was that little girl and then I
became that smile. >>
Harsha: Thank you for your nice and beautiful note. I had several persons
write to me on the story privately. For purposes of accuracy, the incident
happened in 1979 which is around 19 years ago and not 21 as I stated
originally. Sorry for my math calculations. The experience, though seeming to
be ordinary, left an impression on my mind. Oh yes! The stories I could tell.
Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 08:25:13
From: Jeanne Garner <jeannegATnospamicon.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Ill
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At 02:43 AM 5/21/98 +0000, Paul West wrote:
>I am ill. I don't want anyone to send my prayers or healings or help
>unless you really want to yourself.
>
>But, I am wondering if it is k related. A few days back I started to
>develop a cold. I had a badly blocked and running nose for a few days
>and a clogged up throat. Then yesterday I started to get these `aches'
>in my lower stomach area, under the belly button, right accross. Each
>time my heart beated it would ache more. I now feel lightheaded and
Paul, just my opinion, but you sound a lot like me when I had shaktipat
many years ago. It sounds like the cleansing you go through after such an
initiation, and yes, it can be pretty uncomfortable, but afterwards, you're
going to feel great. My teachers at that time advised me to drink lots of
fluids, including water with a couple of teaspoons of lemon juice three
times a day (or more often if I wanted, but at least three times a day),
and what seemed like just tons of water. I was to keep a tall glass of
water on hand throughout my day. This was to help the system cleanse all
that crud.
After about a month or so, everything eased off, and it reminded me of what
happens with a hurricane: Before the storm, it gets muggy, hot, and so
uncomfortable the mind almost refuses to function. Then comes the storm.
It can be pretty frightening, with all the elements raging, and
everything's being whipped by the winds of change, large and small objects
alike. Finally, the storm passes, and it's like it was never there--except
the landscape's a lot different, the air is fresh as it never was before,
and you feel really and truly ALIVE--and grateful for it. Oh yah, I lived
through a couple of those--both the spiritual hurricanes, and the earthly
ones. :)
Hang in there--folks might send you healing, but ultimately, it might only
accelerate the process instead of making it "go away." That's because you
probably =are= healing--that's what those symptoms are all about.
Jeanne
==-* My stars!
Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 09:50:42 EDT
From: Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com>
To: keutzerATnospameecs.berkeley.edu, Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com, janbarenATnospaminfase.es,
DruoutATnospamaol.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Pranayama, Kundalini and Science (was Kumbhaka)
Message-ID: <2b38c4e9.35643133ATnospamaol.com>
In a message dated 5/20/1998, 2:44:10 PM, keutzerATnospameecs.berkeley.edu writes:
<<KK: The breath reflex apparently occurs not due to the brain determining
that we need oxygen but due to it detecting that there is too much build
up of carbon dioxide. Thus if you hyperventilate then you can trick the
brain into thinking you don't need oxygen when you do. Alternatively,
proper practice of bhastrika can improve the duration of the suspension.
>>
Harsha: I am not an expert on human biology from a modern perspective. But
long- term breath suspension along with concentration on the chakras can be
practiced with the use of a variety of techniques given that the proper
foundation of right conduct has first been laid. What the Yogis such as
Milarepa and Gorkshanath did in terms of pranayama can be replicated today. If
there is a scientific interest in studying Kundalini, it would seem that
Pranayama would be the natural place to start as at least the "external"
practice of breathing and retaining the breath can be observed and measured.
Swami Rama once lamented that he has found many people interested in
philosophy and a variety of other things but very few people want to actually
practice the advanced methods of Pranayama and test their limits. Many
organizations such as 3HO and the Himalayan Institute and others teach
pranayama. I would think that it would be possible to find 10-15 people who
can say with confidence that "I will do it." The difficulty therefore might
not be with lack of desire to do scientific studies. There may simply not be
any qualified subjects. Perhaps someone from the 3HO or the Himalayan
Institute or some other organization can provide more information on that.
Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 09:54:14 -0400
From: "Antoine" <acarreATnospamconcentric.net>
To: "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>, <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Ill
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Hi Paul,
Welcome to the roller coaster...
Drinking a lot of water does help as Jeanne wrotte.
Meditation helps smoth out the edges.
Learning to surrender deeply is the key.
Blessings
Antoine
>But, I am wondering if it is k related. A few days back I started to
>develop a cold. I had a badly blocked and running nose for a few days
>and a clogged up throat. Then yesterday I started to get these `aches'
>in my lower stomach area, under the belly button, right accross. Each
>time my heart beated it would ache more. I now feel lightheaded and
>liable to puke.
Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 10:31:13 -0500
From: "Brent Blalock" <blal0004ATnospammaroon.tc.umn.edu>
To: "Antoine" <acarreATnospamconcentric.net>
Cc: "Kundalini - L" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: Bliss, pain and suffering
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-----Original Message-----
From: Antoine <acarreATnospamconcentric.net>
To: Brent Blalock <blal0004ATnospammaroon.tc.umn.edu>
Cc: Kundalini - L <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Date: Wednesday, May 20, 1998 7:46 PM
Subject: Re: Bliss, pain and suffering
Antoine said:
>Pain is to the physical body what is suffering to the emotional body or
>chaos to the mind. The ego of the physical body, cells, atoms, etc., is
much
>more difficult to open then that of the emotional body. Thus why we may
have
>the impression to have more of a choice to end suffering then to end pain.
So you're saying that we have many bodies, that each one has a "preferred
state", and pain and suffering and chaos are just the opposites of their
preferred states?
[[[ Next ]]]
Antoine said:
>For me, Antoine, pain is my friend because it pinpoints the limits of my
>physical consciousness. As the orgasmic and/or ecstatic state expands it.
>When i feel pain, it only means i have not yet made part of my
consciousness
>what i feel as pain. I create a wall between who i think i am and the pain
>left outside of me. Making pain part of me turns the sensation of it to
>ecstacy.
Interesting... What do you mean when you say "make it a part of you"?
I could just say, "The pain is a part of my body, and I needn't resist it."
But I think there's more to it than that.
[[[ Next ]]]
Antoine said:
>There is an infinity of ways to die to who we think we are. It's the beauty
>of this life, to me.
>
>One of them for physical pain is letting your consciousness sink onto the
>pain. To become the pain instead of cutting your consciousness from it. But
>this is a very long and infinite process. The first step, is yet, IMO,
>stepping out of consciousness (ascension) before the descent in the
physical
>body consciousness can really take place. (That if we think in and up and
>down perspective to open ourselves to what Is).
How would a person "step out of consciousness"? And how does one then
"descend into the physical body consciousness"?
[[[ Next ]]]
I said:
>I have trouble relating, but i suspect, that's something that one would
have to
> experience to understand, making verbal description of the experience
> rather vain. Is that so?
Then Antione said:
>I think so....
>
>Yet we keep trying.
Actually, I've found that words aren't totally useless. I've found that
words can be successful in giving the information that someone else needs
when they're one step or two below you on "the ladder", to use a metaphor
used in a previous message.
Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 13:53:59 EDT
From: Druout <DruoutATnospamaol.com>
To: annfisherATnospamstic.net, paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: The big one - explosions
Message-ID: <38f82fde.35646a38ATnospamaol.com>
In a message dated 98-05-21 05:07:52 EDT, annfisherATnospamstic.net writes:
<< You get to where you
are walking around with enough energy that it would have knocked you flat a
year earlier. Wouldn't you like to get to the point where the express
train can come through and you just enjoy it thoroughly? >>
And then you are ready for more!!
Love, Hillary
Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 14:32:24 EDT
From: Druout <DruoutATnospamaol.com>
To: keutzerATnospameecs.berkeley.edu, godlasATnospamarches.uga.edu
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Scientific studies of Kundalin phenomena ( a bit long)
Message-ID: <331a7d68.35647339ATnospamaol.com>
Dear List,
Some time ago someone sent me a copy of an article by David O'Reilly titled
The Bliss Machine from the Science Sta. section of the Phil. Inquirere.
(c1998).
In a 2 yr study, researcher Eugene d'Aquili prof. of psychiatry at the
Hospital of the U. of Penn. and Andrew Newberg fellow at the hospital's
nuclear medicine program studied people engaged in Buddhist meditation.
Quoting from the article:
"we can't say we can see God with these imaging studies," Newberg, 31, said
with a laugh recently. "What we can say is: When somebody has religious
experiences, this is what it's doing to them."
...[the researchers] propose that certain religious practices can so stimulate
the body's calm system or its flight system that activity in the related brain
circuit starts to "reverberate,"
...Depending on whether the ritual is fast..or slow... different parts of
the brain are activated, perceived by the mind as a higher state of
consciousness.
In states of very high activity around one circuit, they say, there can be a
"spillover," such that the dormant system activates and goes "on line"
simultaneously with the other.
Although rare, this dual state can lead to a sense of "tremendous release of
energy" that may feel like "oceanic bliss" or absorption into the object of
contempaltion.
And extreme cases of both systems being activated can induce brain activities
perceived by the mind as the "absolute Unity of Being," or AUB.
They even propose that a mystic in the AUB state will experience either a
divine being, such as God, or the cosmic void of nirvana, depending on whether
there has been a predominantly ergotrophic or trophotropic involvement..."
Love, Hillary
Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 13:49:43 -0500
From: Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic.net>
To: Druout <DruoutATnospamaol.com>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: The big one - explosions
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><< Ann:
><< You get to where you
> are walking around with enough energy that it would have knocked you flat a
> year earlier. Wouldn't you like to get to the point where the express
> train can come through and you just enjoy it thoroughly? >>
>
>Hillary:
>And then you are ready for more!!
Ann:
You betcha!! :))))))))
Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 14:01:29 -0500
From: Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic.net>
To: Druout <DruoutATnospamaol.com>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Scientific studies of Kundalin phenomena ( a bit long)
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Hillary!
>They even propose that a mystic in the AUB state will experience either a
>divine being, such as God, or the cosmic void of nirvana, depending on whether
>there has been a predominantly ergotrophic or trophotropic involvement..."
Do they also explain these words - ergotrophic and trophotropic? All I can
figure is "heat-feeding" and "nutrition-seeking"!!! :)))))
Love,
Ann
Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 00:55:49 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: MMeyers541 <MMeyers541ATnospamaol.com>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Scientific studies of Kundalin phenomena
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(Grin) You are most welcome.. I guess I shoulda credited it.. it is
described in the evolution of the man from Mars in Robert Hienlien's
"Stranger in a Strange land".. a must-read for all Kundalites..
But that simpler form is paraphrased from Robert Anton Wilson... dunno
who he stole it from :D But "Cosmic Trigger" will open a few chakras..
I borrow the truth as I find it.. :D Love that misty laughter.. human
meets spirit..
Blessings, Mystress.
At 10:25 PM 20/05/98 EDT, MMeyers541 wrote:
>In a message dated 98-05-20 18:24:08 EDT, you write to KK.:
>
><< The truth makes you laugh, that's how to recognize it..
>then when you really understand it, it makes you cry. >>
>
>Hi MAS,
>That's absolutely the simplest & most beautiful explanation of the condition
>my condition is in. Have just committed it to memory. Many
>thanks!--Bipolar/Non-dual Michele
>
>
Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 05:49:06 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: Paul West <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: pain
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At 07:14 PM 20/05/98 +0000, Paul West wrote:
>> Angelique wrote:
>>
>> Yet pain is wonderfully focusing, and it is reallydifficult to
>> not be in the moment with the pain when it is occurring.. itdemands
>> attention like nothing else. When we are hurting is when we aremost
>> likely
>> to surrender and "Run Home to Mother". Blessed be. Love, Mystress.
>
>Actually the above is a quote from Susun's message, but I must have
>missed this the first time.
No it wasn't Susan. I wrote that. Her post was very magnificent tho.
I use the games of slavery and submission to get the ego to surrender,
and the focus of pain skillfully administered to create endorphin response
to keep slaves in the moment to realize themselves as beings of bliss.
>
>Talking of pain and how it focuses one.. In the thing event that I
>refer to as a full k explosion, I recall that the energies were so
>utterly intense that it was sweeping everything away but the very
>essense of myself. It was no time to be casually thinking or wondering
>about stuff. It was a `hold onto your hats' situation. It was like, if
>I were to step to one side I would have perished in the fire. In that
>moment of overwhelming activity I simply had to just try and /be/. I
>suppose in a way that was part of it.
>
Yes. Precisely so.
In the storm of an intensity, at the limit, there is no place to say I am
this, my name is that, I like this and hate that.. no place for ego.. there
is only I AM and once you have known that then you are never the same
afterwards. Your K. did it to you, so you would know it.
Goddess uses this body to do it to those who come/are called to offer
themselves up for it, so they may know it.
In this way my client yesterday came to a full awakening.. and
surrendered himself in sacred marriage to the icon of Goddess within
himself.. my druid spent some time in Kriyas of uncontrollable laughter..
and I finished off the day being called to assist in opening a blocked
heart chakra.. sending the serpents the rest of the way up.. all in a days
work for the "ground crew".. blessed be!
Thank Goddess for giving me work that is so darn fascinating my ADD
addled genius brain will not ever get bored of it. Bliss.
Humans have a need for intensity and challenge in order to grow.. if
Mohammed will not go to the mountain, then the mountain comes..
Mountains move slowly.. if you want to feel the K. more often, get off
your butt and go to the mountain. Dancing, grounding, drumming, ritual,
being, singing, herbs, chanting, sleep deprivation, talking to trees and
rocks, music, art, ... whatever blisses you out.. acts of love and
pleasure serve Goddess. She responds with limitless unconditional love.
Keep going there and checking it out till you adjust to the intensity and
decide to "live there".
Yes indeedy.. what was a freight train then, will be business as usual
later.. but the tracks will be smoother, so less shaking and rattling will
occur.
Blissful place, but so much bliss takes some getting used to.. and when
you get used to living there, Goddess will show you a still more blissful
place.
Enlightenment isn't a goal, it's a journey. Happy Trails.
Blessings, Mystress.
>--
>Paul.
>
>IRC: #amiga, Dalnet: #blitz
>WWW: http://www.stationone.demon.co.uk
>E-M: paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk
>
>
>
Date: 21 May 98 14:38:10 +0000
From: Paul West <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Sleepy
Message-Id: <35643C52.MD-0.196.paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
Weivoda:
> In the past two weeks I have experience the same exact thing as you. I could
> be sitting on the floor, or sitting in the chair, but my left leg will go to
> sleep, and I experience everything that you spoke about. I have not figured
> out why, or what, but it happens all the time with me. I have been waiting for
> my right leg to do the same as my left, but it has not yet, maybe it might be
> because my right leg is injured, but I don't know. I would also like to
> understand what is going on with my leg falling asleep, and size changing.
A couple of years ago one night I seemed to be quite tired, perhaps
physically tired, so I went to bed and I lay unusually still. I was
thinking about heaven at the time and daydreaming about some kind of
bliss - a higher level on which there was consciousness. My body
suddenly went to sleep. My sensation of body size seemed to increase
and decrease at the same time. It was in one sense as though I was
much smaller and that my physical body's edges were a long way away,
but at the same time it was as though I was bigger and expanded. As I
realised this was happening my body woke back up again and I
experienced the two extremes merging into the physical size again.
I also read in a number of places that when we sleep the
etheric/astral body expands in order for it to soak up etheric energy
to recharge you.
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Paul.
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