1998/05/17 14:41
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #377
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 377
Today's Topics:
Re: Ego vs Ego [ Paul West <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co ]
Re: Bliss [ Paul West <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co ]
Whoops [ Paul West <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co ]
Re: Ego vs Ego [ Paul West <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co ]
Re: Ego vs Ego [ Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic ]
LIST [ Dice228 <Dice228ATnospamaol.com> ]
Re: Bliss [ Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic ]
Date: 17 May 98 17:14:26 +0000
From: Paul West <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Ego vs Ego
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Jan:
> What to think of a man who is leaving his wife and children without support,
> starting the life of a hermit to realize the Self ? It would be very selfish
> indeed. It shows, that in a way everything can be selfish.
I am painfully aware of this. Many people don't seem to realise how
offensive divinity can be, for example. To someone who hasn't got much
confidence, a confident person can be really offensive. To someone who
does not have much spirituality, spiritual truths are completely
beyond their understanding so they only hear the bits they choose. I
read only recently that Jesus witheld his performing of miracle when
confronted with people who did not show enough faifth, because he knew
they would misinterpret them and that this itself would be bad.
I think this also is why an avatar, indeed God, would be `all things',
all forms. I myself contort what I present to other people depending
on what I perceive them to be, what their choices of reality are. If
someone looks like a common street thug I do not make an attempt to
engage them and am more likely to feel that I have to keep my
distance. Is this not what the street thug is asking for? There are
people who only want me to be myself, amongst whom I can be myself,
like coming out of a shell that rarely has the opportunity to open. My
parents are not particularly enlightened and their is much
suggestiveness in their voices when they ask me trivial modern-day
questions.
Something I know I do is I take the /whole/ of what someone presents
to me as being what they are asking for. It's not just their words
that matter. It's what's in their voice, the expectation you can hear,
the preconceived ideas, the attitudes on all levels - physical,
emotional, mental, spiritual. When someone comes before me I see all
these things and it is with this fullness that I `pass judgement', so
to speak. Then I feel a compulsion to do whatever is required given
the full circumstances of what I am faced with. I have no difficulty
in telling what nice restraining schoolteachers would curse as being a
lie, if it is what is required. I seem to be a very good judge of
character. I don't normally say all this because it can really easily
sound egotistical, and indeed it can go to my own head.
> A method for
> judgment could be the question whether or not others will suffer from one's
> thoughts or actions.
Like I said above, when I come to judge a person, to observe the
fullness of what they are without addition or subtraction - which by
the way is sensitivity and can make one feel mighty vulnerable - I
respond to the person based on the whole of what they present to me.
The bully is one example. What they are really asking for is that they
don't want you to be near them, they they are dangerous, that they
have a territorial hold over their locality. If anyone simple enough
can see these facts then one simply does not ask for trouble. There is
then the angle which suggests that doing this would be selfish, and
that one should take that bully and liberate them. And I do do this to
some extent.
There was a bully at school called Wayne. He has a somewhat fragmented
view of the world, contradicting and offensive. He was a year younger
than me. He would pick aplenty on other people but he didn't seem to
pick on me. I remember one time walking home from school he started
playfighting (but seriously) with the kid I was walking with. The kid
didn't much like this and said to him "why don't you pick on paul or
something". He said, in an avoiding manner, "because I like picking on
you". But I saw, in that instant, that he had an aversion against
confronting me. Whatever it was I stood for was something he found
hard to face, and yet pershaps something rare in his world. He
/respected/ me. Of course he would never say it outright, but it
simply that I had a greater inner unity than him that he seemed to
treat me with respect, with appreciation. I would not hurt him, I am
no bully, quite the opposite. I am not tuff and I have never been in a
fight in my life. In secondary school even there were whole gangs of
people who would go around picking on the weaker kids - whom I hanged
out with - but they never seemed to point their attention at me very
much. I only got the attention of the real seriously bad sorts who
were so full of jealousy and aggressiion that they couldn't help
themselves. But, generally, I am protected, and I think moreso than
most people. I don't mean to boast or anything.
I don't know if I wrote on the k list about this before but I was
telling someone not long ago about how I stopped a bully at work from
trying to lure me into his playfights. He was a big bloke, a few years
older than me, very physical, very passionate, and he quite liked
getting physical with people, ruffing them up and stuff. It was his
version of fun. From the start, whenever I saw the first signs of his
suggestions, whenever he would approach me as if it were my turn, or
whenever he would be in the middle of excitement and would look with
eagerness for his next victim, I would just turn away. I was not
trapped inside the imagery or the involvement of his reality. I find
it hard to get involved in things. I didn't go along with his
aggression and so on one occasion when he flung around in the heat of
egotistic temper, I just stood there with a calm and serious look
about me, and just turned away, as if I was none the wiser, as if I
hasn't even noticed what he'd been doing, like I had only just entered
the room. You should have seen the look of `being found out' that
swept onto his face instantly. He was being childish and I did not
condone it and in simply /being/ the personification of non-violence
he was completely put in his place. As he looked to me it must have
been like looking into a clean mirror, in which he saw how foolish he
was being. I have also said at other times, age has nothing to do with
maturity or spirituality and he is a good example of that. And guess
what, this person is one of the most `confident' people I know. He is
outgoing, passionate about everything, up for anything, loves action,
and really hates inactivity. He always winged at how slowly I seemed
to do everything. But you know, over the months I was working there he
gradually came around. Took his bloody time mind you, but in the end
he actually came to me and said "I actually /care/ about the people I
work with". He couldn't have said that before. It took him many months
to get past all of avoidance and all of his game of `getting to know'
me. One thing I really can't relate to is people who want to get to
know each other in such a slow way - going out socialising, going to
pubs, having these attatchmental relationships, it takes so much time
from their lives and it might be weeks, months, or even years before
they actually have enough calmness to just be truthful and honest and
virtuous. Whoops. Sorry. My ego heard that. .. I also am not keen on
some of the things people are writing about on the k list, I see them
getting too deep into the terminlogy of things, into a kind of /image/
of anchient religion or historical eastern spirituality. All these
wierd names people are coming out with and stuff, it's like the slow
route. It takes so much unnecessary time.
I am unsure why sometimes I know that I am fine an other times I feel
like the world is ending. Maybe ego doesn't like being fragile.
> The practical way is to gain the insight that without
> your bad ego-habits, you would never have arrived at your present situation
> (having the opportunity to attain enlightenment).
It is also true that as a person's righteousness increases so too does
the extent to which they will intensely keep themselves in check,
doubting everything and questioning everything. That can /feel/ like
unconfidence and egotism. There was a girl where I used to work who
was very diplomatic. I found her to be very honest and genuine and I
found that to be beautiful. She was not terribly attractive in the
physical sense, but nethertheless she had a certainty of orderlyness
that few others had. Most days she could be heard saying that she was
useless, that she couldn't do anything right, that she kept making
mistakes. But, I saw in that a tremendous honesty, a great humility,
and that to me said that here was a person who was /truly/ confident.
I must add that often I feel that I have turned reality inside out.
On another occasion the manager was standing behind me and the
regional manager in front. The regional asked me how things were. He
was a very business type of man, big and rude. I vaguely responded
that I was okay. He did rather look down on people so this was what he
was asking for as a respose. He said that I didn't seem very sure of
that, that I looked doubtful. I felt doubtful because I was faced with
someone overconfident. I felt the other side of him. My manager at
this point said "he always looks like that". On reflection I came up
with the phrase "doubt is the face of confidence", which I wished I'd
come up with earlier so that I could have said it to him. I would have
had no qualm about turning around to this this man that called himself
manager and saying such a thing. Of course it wouldbe completely out
of place in a business hierarchy sense, but then I so hate such
things.
Which reminds me. Another time we were short staffed so the department
manager got a department manager from another store to come over to
help out. They were both quite big blokes, very able
conversationalists, both very `confident' - not that they dare look at
themselves. They bantered on with great enthusiasm about this and
that, and I wondered how anyone could be so excited about such
things. I was very quiet, more quiet than normal. But this is the
other side of these people - so completely downbearing. My manager
later asked me if I was alright because I had been so quiet. I said
that i was intimidated. He said "what, because there are two lab
managers around". In his words, he placed managerialship as some kind
of status, something that you be, something that you must worship. He
seemed to be saying to me that if I were frightened it must be because
he and his mate were such accomplished authorities. But this is not
how *I* feel about him at all. I bypass all the business hierarchy
crap and hit people straight at their core, whoever they are. To me he
was a person, not a manager. I was intimidated by their attitudes as
people, trying to be `managers', not by any feeling of being
unconfident as a result of my employment status.
Another time I was not much in the mood for him burping in my face so
I did not grant him an automatic but forced smile. He told me I was a
snob. I think actually he was the snob. Especially given that on
another occasion he told me that I was not conducting myself properly,
that `thats no way to conduct yourself' in front of the manager. I do
not obey such manmade laws. Which brings me onto the fact that I don't
like unnatural or manmade things very much.
But I could go on forever... ;-)
Anyway...
> Fighting ego is like
> fighting your shadow - there can't be a winner and it is rather tiring. The
> method of a saint is to replace bad habits by good habits; this takes an
> awful lot of time.
If one simply cuts to the chase and be's sensible about things, one
knows that one is enlightened here and now.
I notice that the word enlightenment has a tremendous air of fantasy
about it.
> As life is short it is better to have K. burn out all
> impurities.
Yea that too. :)
> With the assistance of meditation, it will lead to states of
> samadhi. There are many of these states and the joy/bliss/ecstasy that is
> experienced (even in the "lowest" of them) will make all previous
> 'ego-pleasure' very puny.
It will not /make/ those things puny. That is what they are. It will
simply see them for what they are. If you look truthfully at
corruption you see that it is corruption. That is the truth.
> Because of this, the bad habits of the "old me"
> will loose their power.
And what do you suppose will happen if you were to slip and fall back
into such habits? What if after all your years of striving and
accomplishig you go out one day and do something evil? What will it
have all been worth? All that effort to escape from the escape.
> As K. tends to integrate and harmonize all one's
> faculties, there is no need to create entities like ego, lower self, higher
> self, soul, etc., as it confuses matters where they can be very simple.
Indeed, it is wrong to think of something like `k' as a a thing in its
own right, as something other than whoever you are looking at it. This
is why I feel many people are too involved in a /romantic/ association
with kundalini.
Love you Jan.
--
Paul.
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Date: 17 May 98 16:49:37 +0000
From: Paul West <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Bliss
Message-Id: <355EFE79.MD-0.196.paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
Ann Morrison Fisher:
> Paul, this is wonderful! You've been in a higher plane (state of
> consciousness), one that's high enough that emotions and thinking, all the
> lower-self stuff, aren't there. Just you, without all that.
Yes. And on reflection, I believe it is the same place I went to in my
third full `kundalini explosion'. I have also been to similar states
at other times. Once while asleep I dreampt of a river and I jumped
over it, and on landing at the other side I sat with my legs crossed
and just listened as an extremely relaxed voice spoke to me. But there
was no `me' for it to speak to, like it was talking to my soul, and I
could not remember a single word it said, except that it was my own
voice.
>
> >Bliss, bliss, bliss. That's what it was. That's the only way I can say
> >it. Somehow it still is, always,
>
> Now you know. You know about that plane, you know you exist there in bliss,
> so "it still is, always." Now you can practice going back there and
> learning to stay for longer periods of time.
Yes. I geneuinely feel that I simply must do that now. The state of
physical life on this plane is hellish in comparison, especially as I
am quite materialistic. Mind you know, meditation has nothing to do
with sitting on your arse. Everything in life is meditation.
> >This lasted for a few minutes but I really had to work at loving
> >because it was not easy. My ego and self kept interfering and flaring.
> >I saw it, like something seperate, hellish, completely childish.
>
> You probably were slipping, so then you got partly into a lower state where
> you perceived lower-self stuff.
Don't get me wrong, I didn't go into any trance nor am I adept at
meditation. Quite the contrary. But this place, it was so simple, so
accessible, and there was nothing extraordinary about it as such. I
kept wondering why the hell I hadn't done that before.
> >I
> >compared gently, not with thought but with observation alone, just by
> >being there, the supposed reality of the ego-self. What complete
> >absurdity. What total misleadment. The bliss is nothing like it at
> >all.
>
> But you were able to hold steady, keep your detachment, and see both at once.
Drifting in amongst the two really. The only way I could keep it up
was to physically keep my body still and to try not to move
unnecessarily. I should think that such restraint would not be
necessary if it would last.
> You don't have to kill the mind or the emotions. Just rise up higher above
> them, so they are going on way down below you, where you don't have to
> notice them. Withdraw your attention from that lower stuff and focus your
> attention where you want it.
Hmm. One day I was not very happy about some things and was feeling
lost. I had a bath, and while in the bath I decided to cry. Not out
loud, because I find it hard to be loud. But I wept and sort of went
into it until my body was shuddering and tightening up. But the
strange thing was, that while this `crying phenomenon' was going on in
the body, in the ego, I was detatched from it. Like the two existed at
once. That's also how I feel about my egotism. It's like I can be
really badly materialistic and egotistical sometimes but that even so
I am simultaneously detatched from it. It's quite wierd. It's kind of
part of my personality I think.
> A good tool for rising higher is to decide on a symbol of joy - some face,
> scene, piece of music, something that brings pure joy to you.
This is what the music did that I was listening to. It was a vocal
rendition of something that I find to be quite heavenly, as though it
were sung by angels. It has no real discernable words, just the sounds
and tones. Sort of like gregarian monks but it was a normal choir. It
reminds me of a quiet place, a heavenly place, so if the ego is going
to be present on my trip I like to have something that will at least
get the ego to cooperate a bit.
> Joy is more
> than an emotion, it's a soul/spirit quality. So when you picture or hear
> your joy symbol, you'll rise higher, away from emotions and intellect. If
> that bliss you found is what means joy to you, maybe you can use that.
Maybe it wasn't the highest of levels, but it wasn't so much joy or
emotion, it was sort of a release from all things, like being saved,
like an unaffectedness. Like really being given a break, a refuge that
isn't an escape. I have a tendency to withdraw, so for me that place
was like an easing of pressure. Was nice not to feel that I wanted to
escape.
> Take some more time to think about this one. You must have come into
> incarnation in this world for a reason, a purpose. Maybe now it will be
> easier to understand what that purpose is.
A few years back I was starting to believe I was being abducted by
aliens. I was having terrors in the night, that I'd had as a child,
and all sorts of strange psychic things were happening. I was very
paranoid at the time, because of my own self-alientation. One night I
had a dream in which there was a naked woman and supposedly I was to
copulate with her. In the dream I was only just about a teenager. I
asked whoever was there why I had to do it, and as I looked accross
there was a being silhouetted against an illuminated whiteness, like
the way the sun shining through some branches almost engulfs the
branches themselves. He said to me that I asked for it - that I wanted
it. Apart from the abduction-related connotations that I drew from
this at the time, it was one of only a few times where I've had any
idea of a mission I might have chosen for myself. Being who I am is
quite difficult, sometimes I feel like I have one of the worst ego's,
but at the same time I seem to have a much higher degree of
detatchment. My only inkling is that this is a time on earth of
tremendous spiritual upheaval and that it is a powerful opportunity
for immense spiritual learning. I am also an optimist, so I suppose
you could say that I should be looking on the bright side - that such
an ego is a good opportunity.
Yet, it is true that becoming able to see something can also happen
when you are shining light onto it, not just that you only see it when
you are affected by it. Last night I had a dream in which there was
tremendous ego things going on, perversions and masturbation and
fantasy, but it all just sort of happened `in' a stillness. If one
knows that one has a big ego, perhaps it is because one does not.
Thanks.
--
Paul.
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Date: 17 May 98 17:18:07 +0000
From: Paul West <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Whoops
Message-Id: <355F1BB4.MD-0.196.paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
Hi.
I must apologise for many repeated freudian slips on my part.
A common one is that I write `simple' instead of `simply'. I think
this is because `simply' is used to describe something other, like a
process. I don't know about nouns and adjectives and all that crap,
but "simple" is complete in itself whereas "simply" has an `other' to
which it is referring. I think this is the reason for my slip. I
reject that otherness.
Sorry about this.
--
Paul.
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Date: 17 May 98 15:20:43 +0000
From: Paul West <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Ego vs Ego
Message-Id: <355F004B.MD-0.196.paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
Brent Blalock:
> I am writing. I'm still writing. Writing, writing, writing... Right now,
> you're reading. Reading, reading, reading...
>
> Looking at your quotes from this perspective could be illuminating.
I have looked at the quotes and I see what might at first appear to be
a great repetition, but on looking further maybe it is just a
timelessness.
I have been noticing for some weeks now that I seem to say the same
thing over and over again. Some people don't like that. When I
sometimes go back and read my own messages it seems that I say
something in the next paragraph with apparently no awareness that I
already just said it. As could be seen in your selection of quotes,
for example, I basically said the same thing several times over.. that
I was wondering. Maybe I have this self-awareness thing down to a fine
art then. I seem able to do the same thing any number of times. I know
that I don't get bored easily and that I am very patient. I also know
that the wisdom of patience also determines that I do not like
/unnecessary/ waiting. I for example do not like waiting for parcels
to be delivered. But I will wait for as long as necessary. But if I
can get them delivered quicker or sooner I will go for it.
--
Paul.
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Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 16:01:53 -0500
From: Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic.net>
To: Paul West <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Ego vs Ego
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Paul West <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk> writes:
>And if you look hard enough,
>you actually end up seeing that both of these polarities are actually
>only one thing.. that both faces of the illusion are in actual fact
>only one face. I wonder, if at some time, one might realise that in
>reality illusion is one, hell is one, everything is one.
Yes, you can.
Love,
Ann
Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 17:12:26 EDT
From: Dice228 <Dice228ATnospamaol.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: LIST
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IS THERE A LIST OR A SITE
I USED TO BE ON IT AND WOULD LIKE FURTHER INFO
Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 16:31:29 -0500
From: Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic.net>
To: Paul West <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Bliss
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>>Ann:
>> Paul, this is wonderful! You've been in a higher plane (state of
>> consciousness), one that's high enough that emotions and thinking, all the
>> lower-self stuff, aren't there. Just you, without all that.
>
>Paul:
>Yes. And on reflection, I believe it is the same place I went to in my
>third full `kundalini explosion'. I have also been to similar states
>at other times. Once while asleep I dreampt of a river and I jumped
>over it, and on landing at the other side I sat with my legs crossed
>and just listened as an extremely relaxed voice spoke to me. But there
>was no `me' for it to speak to, like it was talking to my soul, and I
>could not remember a single word it said, except that it was my own
>voice.
Ann:
People often don't remember what happened on a higher plane, especially on
a level that's new or relatively new to them. It's as though there are two
memories, and the higher memory isn't connected well enough with brain
memory. But with practice you can make the connection stronger so you
remember everything, bring it all into brain memory.
>>
>> >Bliss, bliss, bliss. That's what it was. That's the only way I can say
>> >it. Somehow it still is, always,
>>
>> Now you know. You know about that plane, you know you exist there in bliss,
>> so "it still is, always." Now you can practice going back there and
>> learning to stay for longer periods of time.
>
>Yes. I geneuinely feel that I simply must do that now. The state of
>physical life on this plane is hellish in comparison, especially as I
>am quite materialistic. Mind you know, meditation has nothing to do
>with sitting on your arse. Everything in life is meditation.
True, but in sitting (or lying-down) meditation you can practice going back
there. Simply putting the body to sleep, staying conscious, and moving up
to higher levels. With practice, of course, it gets easier and easier.
>
>> >This lasted for a few minutes but I really had to work at loving
>> >because it was not easy. My ego and self kept interfering and flaring.
>> >I saw it, like something seperate, hellish, completely childish.
>>
>> You probably were slipping, so then you got partly into a lower state where
>> you perceived lower-self stuff.
>
>Don't get me wrong, I didn't go into any trance nor am I adept at
>meditation. Quite the contrary. But this place, it was so simple, so
>accessible, and there was nothing extraordinary about it as such. I
>kept wondering why the hell I hadn't done that before.
>
>> >I
>> >compared gently, not with thought but with observation alone, just by
>> >being there, the supposed reality of the ego-self. What complete
>> >absurdity. What total misleadment. The bliss is nothing like it at
>> >all.
>>
>> But you were able to hold steady, keep your detachment, and see both at
>>once.
>
>Drifting in amongst the two really. The only way I could keep it up
>was to physically keep my body still and to try not to move
>unnecessarily. I should think that such restraint would not be
>necessary if it would last.
It seems necessary for good interior experience on higher planes. The
awareness of the physical body can pull you back/down awfully fast. It's
possible to get to where you can have the awareness of that high level even
while you're awake in the body, but that takes longer, it's harder to do.
I think of that in the general category of "continuous consciousness."
It's a lot easier to go there than it is to connect that with the physical
and all the levels in between!
>
>> You don't have to kill the mind or the emotions. Just rise up higher above
>> them, so they are going on way down below you, where you don't have to
>> notice them. Withdraw your attention from that lower stuff and focus your
>> attention where you want it.
>
>Hmm. One day I was not very happy about some things and was feeling
>lost. I had a bath, and while in the bath I decided to cry. Not out
>loud, because I find it hard to be loud. But I wept and sort of went
>into it until my body was shuddering and tightening up. But the
>strange thing was, that while this `crying phenomenon' was going on in
>the body, in the ego, I was detatched from it. Like the two existed at
>once.
Good exercise! Another one is to get angry - feed the anger, watch it
grow, see how you feed it, where it comes from.
>That's also how I feel about my egotism. It's like I can be
>really badly materialistic and egotistical sometimes but that even so
>I am simultaneously detatched from it.
Good, then it won't be so hard to give it up when you knock the junk off
your ego!
>> A good tool for rising higher is to decide on a symbol of joy - some face,
>> scene, piece of music, something that brings pure joy to you.
>
>This is what the music did that I was listening to. It was a vocal
>rendition of something that I find to be quite heavenly, as though it
>were sung by angels. It has no real discernable words, just the sounds
>and tones. Sort of like gregarian monks but it was a normal choir. It
>reminds me of a quiet place, a heavenly place,
Yes! Beethoven's "Ode to Joy" is my joy music.
> so if the ego is going
>to be present on my trip I like to have something that will at least
>get the ego to cooperate a bit.
You're just rising above where the ego shit is. It doesn't exist on higher
levels.
>
>> Joy is more
>> than an emotion, it's a soul/spirit quality. So when you picture or hear
>> your joy symbol, you'll rise higher, away from emotions and intellect. If
>> that bliss you found is what means joy to you, maybe you can use that.
>
>Maybe it wasn't the highest of levels, but it wasn't so much joy or
>emotion, it was sort of a release from all things, like being saved,
>like an unaffectedness. Like really being given a break, a refuge that
>isn't an escape.
When I went to do my K. meditation, Shakti used to say, "It's recess time!
Recess from the world!"
>
>> Take some more time to think about this one. You must have come into
>> incarnation in this world for a reason, a purpose. Maybe now it will be
>> easier to understand what that purpose is.
>
>My only inkling is that this is a time on earth of
>tremendous spiritual upheaval and that it is a powerful opportunity
>for immense spiritual learning.
Yes, and for service.
>I am also an optimist, so I suppose
>you could say that I should be looking on the bright side - that such
>an ego is a good opportunity.
A strong ego is fine, once you get the crap cleaned off it.
Love,
Ann
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