1998/05/15 21:17
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #373
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 373
Today's Topics:
have you heard? [ "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.or ]
Re: RE: Milarepa and pranayama? [ Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com> ]
Re: Question [ kristin <ATnospamaol.com> ]
Unidentified subject! [ "Dan Margolis"<Dan_MargolisATnospamabm.com ]
RE: Milarepa and pranayama? [ Kurt Keutzer <keutzerATnospameecs.berkeley ]
RE: Milarepa and pranayama? [ Danijel Turina <sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.te ]
Re: Pain/pleasure [ Druout <DruoutATnospamaol.com> ]
Kumbhaka (was RE: Milarepa and prana [ Kurt Keutzer <keutzerATnospameecs.berkeley ]
Figners [ Paul West <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co ]
Re: Kumbhaka (was RE: Milarepa and p [ Druout <DruoutATnospamaol.com> ]
Hmm [ "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon. ]
Mystress Angelique's grounding visua [ percyvalATnospamwebtv.net ]
Re: Hmm [ valerie cooper <madammumATnospamptialaska. ]
Re: Kumbhaka (was RE: Milarepa and p [ Imtgxxx <ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com> ]
Re: Hmm [ Imtgxxx <ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com> ]
AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Cen [ Magne Aga <magneagaATnospammonet.no> ]
AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Cen [ Magne Aga <magneagaATnospammonet.no> ]
Re: Questions [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
RE: Milarepa and pranayama? [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 09:02:25 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.org>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: have you heard?
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i heard a
keening cry
and a shudder as the
crack of the old
fabric tore.
this process
of shedding skin
can be painful.
explosions undergound
numbering 5,
releasing poisens into the ground
(not now not now not now, i put this
off as long as i could....)
focus now on the tear,
on the soft and vulnerable spot.
where is Shiva to absorb these poisens?
my mother is crying, her
black hair lays limp and tinged
with unhealthy redness.
if her pain renders her to
shudder, she may take some of her
children with her.
now is the time to bask her
with firelight turned pink to sooth,
white-blue to heal,
open onesself and draw the poisens out...
greeddesirefearignorancelazinessineptitudeangerhatredwarwarwarwar.
like smoke gather them together
into a tight black pearl
breath on it now.
watch it dissolve into where it came from
the ocean of change roars.
this too passes.
point of dissolution as white rays to all directions
along these rays
lovewisdomcompassionequanimityjoyjoyjoy
(may burn your throat a bit....)
*breathe*
(the coiled snake, newly free of her old small skin sleeps so peacefully)
--janpa
(on hearing of another nuclear state on the planet)
Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 11:04:35 EDT
From: Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com>
To: sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.tel.hr, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: RE: Milarepa and pranayama?
Message-ID: <4e839865.355c5984ATnospamaol.com>
In a message dated 5/15/1998, 5:54:22 AM, sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.tel.hr writes:
<<The strange thing
is that I still needed to drink water, but no food whatsoever.>>
Harsha: There is nothing strange about wanting to drink water Danijel. Almost
everyone I know drinks water on a daily basis. Our body is mostly water.
However, it is possible to do without food for several weeks to months and
there are many examples of that. I hope this clarifies it for you buddy!:--)).
Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 11:10:38 EDT
From: kristin <ATnospamaol.com>
To: AnNiteLiteATnospamaol.com, Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Question
Message-ID: <ab6d7759.355c5af0ATnospamaol.com>
In a message dated 98-05-15 04:37:41 EDT, you write:
<< You sound wonderful! There's a very different feeling about you. And I
like
the name change! What does kristin mean? Is it a name?
I love you,
Ann >>
Everything is going well. Yes, that is my last name. I thought I needed a
change, and also I was having problems with the name, so I just changed.
Love,
Kristin
Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 09:07:42 -0700
From: "Dan Margolis"<Dan_MargolisATnospamabm.com>
To: Sunil R Peswani <peswaniATnospamgiaspn01.vsnl.net.in>
cc: kundalini-l <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Unidentified subject!
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Mr. Margolis finds this very entertaining... Mr. Margolis has missed his
playmate
Shahanshah and his playmate Peswani...
> Is this self-realistion? or Enlightment or Moksh or Nirvan or ..NOTHING.
>
> Shahanshah has no interest in any answer to above question.
Mr Margolis has one question: What is Peswani trying to prove? Before
Peswani was
trying to prove that he had attained something. Now Peswani has taken upon
himself a
Sissyphian task proving that he has nothing to prove. Mr. Margolis will be
very excited if
someone ever manages to PROVE conclusively that they have nothing to
prove...
Dan M.
Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 10:38:33 -0700
From: Kurt Keutzer <keutzerATnospameecs.berkeley.edu>
To: "'Danijel Turina'" <sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.tel.hr>, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: RE: Milarepa and pranayama?
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-----Original Message-----
From: Danijel Turina [SMTP:sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.tel.hr]
Sent: Friday, May 15, 1998 2:30 AM
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: RE: Milarepa and pranayama?
At 19:26 1998.05.14 -0700, you wrote:
>KK: <snip>
> The tummo
>practice focuses particularly on the winds entering the central channel
>at the navel cakra. I find the positive of this approach versus others
>is that the tummo teachings are very grounding. <snip>
Danijel:
Thank you for the informations, that is more like what I wanted to find
out. I would suppose it uses manipura pranic system to channel energy.
Is
there any experience on what happens when system is purified enough to
switch from pranic flows to vajra (visuddha cakra)?
KK:
The tummo practice cycles the energy through all the chakras. The energy
rises from the navel chakra by chakra to the crown until it melts the
``drop'' at the crown. Then the energy can also be allowed to descend
cakra by cakra but great stability of mind is required to ensure that
the energy doesn't leak out. If you are interested you could read the
books translated by Glenn Mullin that were mentioned in earlier posts.
The process is described in much more detail there. Enjoy.
Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 19:43:52 +0200
From: Danijel Turina <sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.tel.hr>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: RE: Milarepa and pranayama?
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At 10:38 1998.05.15 -0700, you wrote:
>KK:
>The tummo practice cycles the energy through all the chakras. The energy
>rises from the navel chakra by chakra to the crown until it melts the
>``drop'' at the crown. Then the energy can also be allowed to descend
>cakra by cakra but great stability of mind is required to ensure that
>the energy doesn't leak out. If you are interested you could read the
>books translated by Glenn Mullin that were mentioned in earlier posts.
>The process is described in much more detail there. Enjoy.
Thanks. :)
-----
E-mail : sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.tel.hr
Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/1377
Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 14:23:17 EDT
From: Druout <DruoutATnospamaol.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Pain/pleasure
Message-ID: <7d06cce8.355c8816ATnospamaol.com>
In a message dated 98-05-15 14:20:47 EDT, you write:
<< In a message dated 98-05-15 04:31:21 EDT, you write:
<< I suspect that pain is actually a kind of over-stimulation. I've found
that
when walking barefoot >>
Dear Brent,
Thanks for the feedback. I like that idea of over-stimulation. makes good
sense to me.
Love, Hillary >>
Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 11:24:25 -0700
From: Kurt Keutzer <keutzerATnospameecs.berkeley.edu>
To: "'Harsha1MTM'" <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com>, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Kumbhaka (was RE: Milarepa and pranayama?)
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I'm afraid the pranayama issue came and went without pushing the ball
much forward. Earlier the issue of kumbhaka (breath retention, to the
first approximation) came up.
The first issue was ``is kumbhaka alone sufficient to awaken
kundalini?'' My impression was that it wasn't but I think we all agreed
that if it was complemented with bandha's then it certainly would.
The second issue was retention. Harsha spoke of a 3-minute retention and
pointed to Swami Rama's books where quite long (minutes to hours if I
read it right) retentions were discussed.
I have never particularly focused on increasing the time of retention
(except when free-diving) but I was nevertheless humbled by these
numbers. The classical works all do judge excellence by duration of
retention. I would guess that 1 minute suspension of breath would be a
great day for me.
But when reading scientific research articles on the tummo practice I
found one interesting thing. Oxygen consumption by tummo practitioners
was normal - it wasn't even reduced. Breath rate was also normal. The
subjects of this research were people singled out as excellent tummo
practitioners in the Gelugpa school in one study and the Kargyudpa
school in another. The tummo practitioners in one study did demonstrate
the ability to raise temperature - as much as 13 degrees Fahrenheit -
so something must have been going on.
I also followed up other research on breath retention. Reducing oxygen
consumption by 50% in an hour is extraordinary. There are no published
articles demonstrating much more than this that I am aware of - and the
articles speak of this number as the ``best published''. There have been
two studies I have found on the yogis who get sealed in a coffin and
buried. In one case it was discovered that after the consumption of the
oxygen in the coffin was considered only a 20% oxygen reduction was
realized. Another showed 50% reduction - but certainly not total
suspension - and this guy was apparently doing another meditation than
tummo.
So a few questions:
1) Does the subjective experience of suspension really entail
stopping breath. Many times it feels like the breath has stopped - the
attention is absorbed elsewhere - but if you put your hand under your
nose you feel a little gentle flow. And if there are all these prolonged
breath suspensions out there - where are the studies? Kaivalya Yoga
Center published articles on yoga for over 20 years and they were the
ones who debunked the yogi in a coffin scenario. I've mentioned the
results of ``scholarly'' scientific journals that I have found.
(Incidentally, Harsha's 3 minutes seems quite feasible to me- I just
haven't seen it mirrored in a scientific study - maybe it's waiting out
there for me).
2) Is retention really the thing? Over time I focused more and more
on the union of the prana and apana - this is what led most to results
in awakening kundalini for me. The results studying the tummo
practitioners would support this I think.
3) And what about the role of heat in kundalini - many people here
report increased heat - any quantification out there?
Kurt
Date: 15 May 98 16:19:38 +0000
From: Paul West <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Figners
Message-Id: <355C6B1A.MD-0.196.paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
Hello.
I'm not sure why, perhaps it is ego-related, but I think my fingers
are shorter than they used to be!
--
Paul.
IRC: #amiga, Dalnet: #blitz
WWW: http://www.stationone.demon.co.uk
E-M: paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk
Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 14:41:45 EDT
From: Druout <DruoutATnospamaol.com>
To: keutzerATnospameecs.berkeley.edu, Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com,
kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Kumbhaka (was RE: Milarepa and pranayama?)
Message-ID: <3c1f66f6.355c8c6aATnospamaol.com>
Dear Kurt and all
When a teenager I used to swim underwater for a couple 2-3 pool lengths. I
used to time myself 3 min was about all I could do. didn't think much about
it, but my mother would have had fits, I think. Was puzzling whether my
memory was correct, so just held my breath for 1+minutes without much
difficulty, so it must be. I think lung capacity must vary alot and can grow
with practice.
I do feel that breath has an influence on the heavenly rushes I feel. and
Heat is a part of it too. But I don't try to control it in any way except
when doing my exercises But when I wake up from a blissful wave, the breath,
and heat, are certainly unusual!
Just some personal experiences,
Love, Hillary
Date: 15 May 98 20:27:16 +0000
From: "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Hmm
Message-Id: <355CA524.MD-0.196.paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
Hi.
I'm sorry, but I think most of what is being talked about here is
rubbish and has nothing to do with k.
--
Paul.
IRC: #amiga, Dalnet: #blitz
WWW: http://www.stationone.demon.co.uk
E-M: paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk
Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 15:44:33 -0400
From: percyvalATnospamwebtv.net
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Mystress Angelique's grounding visualization
Message-Id: <199805151944.MAA08982ATnospammailtod-142.iap.bryant.webtv.net>
hi folks,
recently there have been several posts about the power of Mystress's
grounding visualization:
http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent/ground.htm
while this visualization does take perhaps 20 minutes the first time
you are learning it...it can be done in quite a short amount of time
once you know it (2 minutes or less)...on her page Mystress makes the
suggestion of doing the visualization 8 times a day for 45 days to make
the grounding permanent...
this might seem like more of a commitment than many would like to
make...so i want to let you all know that i did do this...it does take a
firm resolve to make a point of doing it consistently, but it is quite
simple, and becomes easier each day...eventually it feels like you are
tracing lines of energy that are already there...
when i finished my 8th visualization on the 45th day, i was given a
wonderful gift of energy from the Goddess that is now always with
me...this grounding is now a part of my life...and has helped me to make
some wonderful changes and added much to my happiness and peace...
warmly,
john percyval
Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 12:03:09 +0000
From: valerie cooper <madammumATnospamptialaska.net>
To: Paul West <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Hmm
Message-ID: <355C2EF7.519FATnospamptialaska.net>
Paul West wrote:
>
> Hi.
>
> I'm sorry, but I think most of what is being talked about here is
> rubbish and has nothing to do with k.
v: yes, but if you wrap it in fish skin with rice, will it make good
sushi?
;-)
personally, I think everything is somehow relative to kundalini -
awakened fires, burning pathos, dark nights of the soul, suspiciously
psycho as relative to "normal"...etc.etc.
one world - one big web - all inter-related - amoebic pulsing qualities
known as 'collective unconscious' in Jungian jargon...
"there, but for the grace of God(s)/ess(es) go I !"
--
for what it's worth;
valerie cooper
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/7982/index.html
Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 17:09:37 EDT
From: Imtgxxx <ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com>
To: keutzerATnospameecs.berkeley.edu, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Kumbhaka (was RE: Milarepa and pranayama?)
Message-ID: <3c1fc8ee.355caf13ATnospamaol.com>
Kurt asked:
1) Does the subjective experience of suspension really entail
stopping breath.
For me, yes it did mean stopping breath. It *created* a death experience for
me, by my choice.
2) Is retention really the thing?
I dunno...
3) And what about the role of heat in kundalini - many people here
report increased heat - any quantification out there?
Count me in on the heat thing. I thought I had begun menopause it was sooo
bad. Only to find that when my kundalini became dormant, the heat stopped
too. One time I was at a party and got so hot, I had to go to the bedroom and
strip down to my bra and panties and stand before a fan going full blast for
almost an hour to feel any relief. It was like this a lot of the time. This
heat thing went on during the duration that my K was active -- approximately
1-l/2 to 2 years.
xxxtg
* I intend to live forever -- so far, so good! * (by the way, where is
Drew?)
http://members.aol.com/Teeegeee/tgsplace.html <~~~~ on the web now!
Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 17:23:59 EDT
From: Imtgxxx <ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Hmm
Message-ID: <e0f8c172.355cb270ATnospamaol.com>
In a message dated 5/15/98 3:29:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk writes:
.....I'm sorry, but I think most of what is being talked about here is
rubbish and has nothing to do with k.
Who are you talking to?? (the following is an excerpt from your latest
posting:)
***
Hello.
I'm not sure why, perhaps it is ego-related, but I think my fingers
are shorter than they used to be!
--
Paul.
***********
xxxtg <~~~ a rubbish poster too
* If you can't annoy somebody, there is little point in writing *
http://members.aol.com/Teeegeee/tgsplace.html <~~~~ on the web now!
Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 12:32:46 -1000 (HST)
From: Magne Aga <magneagaATnospammonet.no>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
Message-Id: <199805152232.MAA00490ATnospamhaleakala.aloha.net>
DNA AND KUNDALINI
Someone asked these question earlier:
>I'm working on a researching a possible connection with the ancient
>concept of kundalini and DNA. Has anyone ever encountered reading
>anything about this? I have never been interested in this until now so
>if anything passed by me, I have missed it.
Can someone please tell me who it was ?
Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 12:30:32 -1000 (HST)
From: Magne Aga <magneagaATnospammonet.no>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
Message-Id: <199805152230.MAA29611ATnospamhaleakala.aloha.net>
THE VRIL FORCE - NATURE'S GIFT TO THE POOR
I know that these subject seems out-of-range in a Kundalini forum. But it isn't. In the state of Delta, where we enter the consciousness of the mineral kingdom, we cannot avoid discovering these force sooner or later.
It will eventually be the energy supply in the incoming New Age. (Although it also could be misused in "alternative" nuclear bombs)
Any comments about it ? Are there others there interested in the subject ?
Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 11:54:30 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: "Marsha & Stephen" <kandulATnospamg-net.net>
Cc: <CttlemanATnospampsbnewton.com>, "MMeyers541" <MMeyers541ATnospamaol.com>,
<melodyATnospampowernet.net>, <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: Questions
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certainly... :)
It is at http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent/ground.htm
Some folks might not be able to get into it.. it is not pornographic, but
it resides on an "adults only" server that may be blocked by some folks
work computers. Ask me, and I'll send you an htm attachment of it.
Blessings, Mystress.
At 08:41 AM 14/05/98 -0400, Marsha & Stephen wrote:
>greetings-
>
>Could someone resend the mystresses' grounding meditation...it sounds like
>it is worth experiencing.
>
>Blessings,
>Marsha
>
>
>
Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 20:32:43 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: Mike Stickles <msticklesATnospamaurum.com>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: RE: Milarepa and pranayama?
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Melody wrote:
> << What is Shakti? Is it some kind of magic? Because when I was
>reading the Grounding Exercise written by the Mystress, my cursor and
>the bar on the right side of the web page was acting very strange; going
>down all by itself, almost; as if magic, and she said that her shakti
>worked even over the Internet. >>
>
At 06:18 PM 14/05/98 -0400, Mike Stickles wrote:
>I'll second what Danijel said - while on the Internet I've had the
>browser page scroll on me for no reason several times, <..> That's not to
say it
>couldn't be Mystress' Shakti, but there are more "mundane" explanations
>possible.
Yesssssssssss...
There are always "mundane" explanations.. Ego logic can invent "reasons"
endlessly.. but it is not necessarily in the best interests of faith and
growth to do so.
Was it not Danijel who had to "eat crow" after insisting that
streetlights going out when Kundalites walked under them had nothing to do
with K.? Some explanation about faulty light sensors.. but many
streetlights worldwide are on timers, not light sensors, and they still go
out on K-folks. A minor miracle, but I have yet to see a "logical"
explanation that fully covers it's mystery. "more things in heaven and
Earth, than are dreamt of in your philosophy", as the infinity of Monkeys
told Shakespeare... :D
There are no "embedded bit maps" on the grounding site.. I've never heard
of a browser that can read a bit map file.. all I use are .jpg and .gif
files, Internet standard. The website is of the simplest HTML, coz that's
all I know... universally compatable. Not necessarily error free, but html
programming errors do not usually produce such spectacular effects.
That is not to say it was not a computer error, certainly it may have
been, and one can always point to such "meaningless" explanations for any
event.. but the truth of the Magic in the world is that there are no
accidents.. so such animal as coincidence.. what is outside of us is inside
of us, and it is all manifested of thought and intention.
To my mind, encouraging novice Kundalites to ignore the signposts of
synchronicity and co-incidents in favor of hiding in the endless "reasons"
of ego logic, is really Baaaaad advice. Certainly the opposite also
happens.. folks apply superstition where reason is a better fit.. but even
reasonable events have magic in them. Goddess uses the mundane to
communicate as often as she uses the fantastic. She is in All things.
Opening the door of perception is learning to see magic in the mundane.
I understand that some folks seek to find "reasonable" explanations for
the effects of the grounding site.. I am not one of them.
I understand the mechanism of consciousness well enough to know that
people tend to fear what they do not understand, and seek to soothe their
fear by seeking reasons.
This has been an aspect of human nature since First Woman saw lightning
and made up a story about sky-gods. We may now understand the bio electric
mechanism of lightning, and flatter ourselves about our wisdom, but when
and where lightening strikes is still up to the fathomless plan of Nature.
Science and reason are only another form of religion.. scientists believe
in things they cannot see, too. Rhetoric is the science of using reason to
convince another of things that are not necessarily true.
I cannot recall all of the thoughts and intentions that went into the
energy/intention base of the grounding during the hours days weeks months I
was meditating on it to tweak it into perfection.. nor am I inclined to
try... but I will say that tho it appears to come thru me, it is connected
to much more than me.. I don't ask for the names of the beings who come to
assist me when I am doing such work.. they come in the highest good, it is
all I need to know.. "Ground crew". :)
I do know that one of the patrons of it is Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi. Tho
I doubt that she is aware of her patronage, consciously..
It was the k-list's observation of the K-fire her pic on the net
generates that was inspiration for a site designed to cause KA.. Shakti
rides the net....and receiving Shaktipat from "Grandma Devi" myself
radically improved my own ability to grant Shaktipat, which in turn affects
the site.
I have always been very humble about taking credit for the effects of the
site.. I feel that it was channeled thru me, more than written by me. I
gave it up to Goddess purposes, and I have been advised not to seek after
logical explanations that might limit it's limitlessness in my conceptions.
To Melody I would say: no-one but you can say for sure whether your
experience with my website was magical or mundane. Get grounded and ask
your inner voice, it will tell you the truth.
When you get "logical" explanations for odd events that catch your
attention, notice internally if there is a disquieting sensation of
dissatisfaction.. like there is more to it than meets the eye of the one
offering the reasons..
If the "malfunction" got your attention enough to comment on the list to
ask if it was Magic, then likely it was indeed Shakti saying "hello, I am
here for you" or you would not have felt so curious about it. Shakti hears
your thoughts, and responds instantly. She uses your curiosity, and all of
your feelings to guide you on your path. It may be that She chose to make
use of an instability in your computer to announce her presence.
In shamanic practice, one learns to be mindful of Goddess voice speaking
thru all things. Listening to responses from the environment to what is
happening in your mind.
For example: You wonder about something, and hear the furnace start up.
This is a confirmation/answer from Goddess, because it got your attention.
Likely the furnace starts up many times a day, but you do not hear it at
all. Your unconscious deletes the sound as unimportant if there is no
message for you in it. it may be the furnace, or a dog barking, or a bird
singing at night, or a line of dialogue on TV that mirrors your thinking or
echoes your words.
The timing of it is interesting, eh? Perhaps Shakti was assisting you by
scrolling down for you so you could focus more fully on the meditation? Who
knows? It is between you and Goddess.
I happened to go thru my mail backwards yesterday, so I read Danijel's
later response before your question.. I felt that there was "more than
meets the eye", and my Wacom tablet crashed out.. I don't think it has ever
done that before.. unless it did and I don't remember coz did not pay
attention.. :)
Shakti is one of the infinite names of God-dess. Creative feminine
energy, usually associated with the planet's spirit, love. The life force
inside you, and inside of all things. Every atom of reality carries in it's
heart a spark of consciousness, and it is all bound together in the
"Unified field" of unconditional love.
The practice of magic is to recognize that our thoughts and feelings
effect our perceptions of reality, and indeed create ripples in the subtly
organized "chaos field" of the material world to alter it's manifestations
according to our beliefs.
By choosing to deliberately alter our beliefs, we alter our reality.
Every thought is a prayer. When emotion is fueled by intention (Love +
Consciousness) and sent out as thought, word or ritual, it creates ripples
in the fabric of space-time that inevitably return to us manifest as the
fruits of what we have sown.
This happens whether we are aware of it or not, but awareness of it gives
us the power to make different choices. We increase awareness of it by
realizing it is already happening, and always has been, and begin watching
for the signs and confirmations of synchronicity to access the higher
wisdom of intuition to guide us in the choices we make.
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>What I experienced from her webpage was more along the lines of feelings
>of concentrated energy, and the exercise running itself without my
>having to read it, among other things.
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>- Mike S.
>
Very cool, thankyou Mike!
These are the delicious fruits: every time someone tells me of the
effects they felt from the grounding site, I get an incredible wild joyous
rush of K-fire. Every time someone chooses to tell me what they
experienced, the tale is unique. Goddess is limitless manifestation.
Blessed be.
Love, Mystress.
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