1998/05/04 04:23
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #352
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 352
Today's Topics:
AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Cen [ Magne Aga <magneagaATnospammonet.no> ]
Re: DNA and Kundalini [ hbarrettATnospamix.netcom.com (Holly N. Ba ]
Re: Ego and K [ "Larry Schmitz" <taniaATnospamcentroin.com ]
Re: Fwd: Ego and K [ "Gloria Lee" <samyanaATnospamhotmail.com> ]
RE: DNA and Kundalini [ "Roberto Gonzales del Valle" <93035 ]
Re: Ego and K [ WHYASK <WHYASKATnospamaol.com> ]
Re: Ego and K [ WHYASK <WHYASKATnospamaol.com> ]
Spontaneous Kundalini Arising [ Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic ]
Re: Yoga Web Sites [ "Sen Ashanka"<sashankaATnospamaismi.ais.it ]
Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 14:35:22 -1000 (HST)
From: Magne Aga <magneagaATnospammonet.no>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
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Received these E-mail from Harsha:
> Hello. Thanks for your beautiful note. Perhaps you meant to share it with the
> whole list but it only came to me. Why don't you subscribe to the Kundalini
> list so people can benefit from your sharing. God bless you with peace and
> happiness.
It seems to me that in the last few days, I´ve been busy of answering E-mails directed to me, while forgetting totally that the postings didn´t arrive at the whole Kundalini list, although it could be of general interest. Anyway, I decided to repost parts of my E-mail correspondence the last few days.
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Kriya Yoga is concerned with the balance of two poles in ourselves. We have two poles, each with it's own energy form. Kriya Kundalini Yoga is to perform a circulation, instead of just an upwards movement. Kriya Yoga is to attain the balance between these upwards and downwards energies.
The chinese sign for Yin and Yang, is in fact the symbol of Kriya Yoga, as it shows two drops of water, each moving in an opposite direction. And in each drop in these symbol, you can even see to pearl of Compassion, going upwards and downwards. I repeat what I mailed earlier to others: I think Hawaii is an excellent place for performing Kriya Yoga, due to the Sea.
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When the ancient Indian Yogis entered China from India, bringing with them the exercises of Kundalini Yoga, many chinese people observed that those practising Kundalini Yoga could become imbalanced. It is very strong forces we are working with. During my first initiation (birth) in the 80's, Kundalini arose on the FRONT side of the body. I went through a real death experience, when Kundalini travelled to the top, making me clairvoyant. I have added a description of these experience below. (Maybe it may sound cryptic or veird. It was my personal reflections which I gave to an esoteric group, and was written 16 years ago.)
Anyway. When the chinese saw people becoming imbalanced, a need for a solution arose. And the solution was introduced by Lao-Tse in his "immortality body meditation". Yogananda's Kriya Yoga was a modified version of these meditation technique.
Kriya Yoga was introduced to the teachers teacher of Yogananda by a "mythical" person, having been seen near Himalaya for centuries. He is called Babaji. I'm not talking on behalf on SRF, nor taoists, when claiming, for those who it may concern, that Babaji and Lao-Tse was the same person in their High Self state. Babaji was the light body, not a physical expression, of he known to many as "Kut Humi".
So, the similarities between these two techniques are no coincidence. Also, Babajis Kriya Yoga was an imitation of the Chinese imitation. There exists an even older version of Kriya Yoga, long forgotten by most teachers. It has to do, among other things, with materialisation.
> What IS kria yoga?
Kriya Yoga is an extremly easy technique to perform. And it is one of the strongest therapies known. It it composed by 24 different meditation techniques. Some of these have very strong physical effects. Others are so sublim that their effects will not be discovered before after some time. Compare them to the gears in a car: When you have reached a certain revolution in your motor, choose the next gear !
According to Yogananda, one Kundalini circulation through the chakras in 1/2 minute corresponds to 1 year of normal spiritual evolution, provided you are healthy and do not think or feel any negative during these year.
Consider the 1/2 minute as a general rule, not a universal law. I have had experiences of kundalini going straigth upwards and downwards in an enormous speed (like a ligthening), and also an experience of kundalini went from the root to the top IN A SINGLE NOW, stayed there for about 5 minutes (extreme electricity through my whole body), and WENT DOWNWARDS IN A SINGLE NOW (No intermediate blockages).
It is very easy to perform. You can learn it through SRF or others, but then you are bound by an oath of secrecy. I am not bound by any such oath. But I feel at these moment, that I would not say so very much about how it is practised yet. Time will tell.
Let me say, however, that Kriya Yoga is not a rise of Kundalini upwards, and: Finito ! We are talking about a circulation. Energy goes upwards and then downwards, and it sirculates through other paths (nadis) than in traditional Kundalini Yoga.
The critical point in Kriya Yoga, the reason for secrecy, is that the learning process must be as good as possible. If I teach Kriya Yoga to you, you would associate it with me. If SRF teach it to you, you would associate it with them. Kriya Yoga is so strong that, you never will forget it. And no situation during learning can be good enough. It is something you bring with you for the rest of your life, so the beginning has to be in harmony, positive. Kriya yoga is something which should be YOURS (with letter Y), something you feel comfortable with, without associating it to much with other persons or anything in these universe of relativity.
Besides, Kriya Yoga is, first and foremost, an experience. Explanations can ruin it. Your "memory" should not depend of any paper. Your whole organism, your thoughts and emotions will remember.
> What is the effect?
One effect is that the need of sleep is reduced largly. When I used it very heavily (1000 circulations), I didn't sleep at all except a few minutes on many days. It is also possible to make marvelous healings on yourself and others. A more advanced version of Kriya Yoga, called "Prana Vidya", is a healing technique.
It becomes more easier to see what you really want. It becomes easy to see through deppressions or anxiety, to get rid of negative feelings - To view the things in your world as freewill choices, not neccessities which binds you. You get rid of karma.
Here is something I wrote many years ago.
Just as the mystics in the ancient Egypt, Rome and Greek through any years purified their astral bodys, before "mirroring" it into the etheric
life-force body - which temporarily was removed from the physical body in a similar way as in the transition called death - such was it in the middle of the night, during my initiation (birth), that my breath and my hearth suddenly stopped.
The fire raised from the root chakra to the hearth, where it was resting in
a "chamber" in the etheric body, called "hridâyakasham" in the
Tantra-tradition. When kundalini met the hearth, a second fire appeared.
The second fire is called Jivâtman in the same tradition, and it's
meditative symbol (yantra) is an "unmoveable, dark blue flame from an
oil-lamp". The statement that the fire doesn't move, reflects the fact that
I Am I can neither be disturbed by any influences from the outer physical
world, nor from our lower personality.
The fire rised further to the 96-bladed chakra between the eyebrowns, the "third eye" which ancient scriptures calles "the lotus with two blades", these whirl that shows everything as in a mirror.
The chakra between the eyebrowns is the center of a cosmic mirror-game. Our Holy Guardian Angel is a phase-shifting reflection, a mirror of our character traits as we come from the physical world. In our lower personality, we think about ourselves in terms of past and future instead of the eternal Now, and these fragments, these reflections, congregates into a sort of meta-reality.
Three kinds of fire meets in the head. The first one, from the root, gives
a magical vision of glowing ember - a reflection from the physical atoms in our body. The second one gives a vision of electrical sparks from the
etheric double. The third fire emanates from our Holy Guardian Angel.
Under this scenario, the three forms of fire are testing our lower
personality to a degree unknown for unitiates. They offer power over other persons life. They offer an envoying reputation. They are telling you that you shall not forgive your "enemies". The One way suddenly gets divided. On the one hand, you are given the opportunity to continue your lower personality life on a tempting, "light" way. On the other hand, you can choose the I Am Self way to the other side, passing the dark Void.
In the middle of the Sun in the head, our socially made "Ego" then gets
whirvled into a dark centre, an irresistible, horrifying Void which in Her
insatiability consumes everything which comes within Her reach.
In my terminology, the dark Void is the Gate of Initiation.
In Christianity, the "chamber" (hridâyakasham) is symbolised by the "crib" and the Higher Self (Jivâtman) by Christ who is born in every human being.
In the Gospel of Matthew, there is even the following statement: "If your
eye becomes one, your whole body will be filled by Light".
When Moses, after having climbed to the top of the Mount Sinai, asked about God's name, he got the answer "ahijeh (21) asher (502) ahijeh (21)" - I Am that I Am. The summary of "ahijeh asher ahijeh" is 543 and - because Moses is 345, refers to the mirror.
When kundalini leaves one Chakra and enters the next, the energies in the former remaines dead. They are absorbed by kundalini and moved upwards. When kundalini moves from the 4-bladed (root) to the 6-bladed lotus (sacral), for example, the two are unified into one 10-bladed lotus. Likewise, when the fire meets the 10-bladed solar-plexus-lotus, the forces from the two lower chakrams are beeing added to the Chakra, turning solar plexus into a 20-bladed lotus, and so on.
The third eye is called "the two-bladed lotus", but according to my
observations, this is *almost* truth. There are two mainstreames of powers in these Chakra. Because the overwhelming amount of forces in each stream has the same colour, which is not the case in any of the lower Chakrams, the two force-streams may *seem* like two forces. There are so many forces in these two streams, that it's difficult to count them under the critical adventure which an arisement represents.
It was during my reflections over these fact that I wondered: "Is it
possible that the forces from the previous Chakrams are being multiplied, instead of just added to the sixth Chakra ?". Playing with these numerological reflections, a peculiar summary became the result: The numbers 144 and 144 000, which presents the sixth initiation, is the same as the number of the *elected* ones in the New Testament, those who have a *mark* on their forehead !
CHAKRA SANSKRITNAME NR OF "BLADES"
Root Mûladâra, "the fundamental root" 4
Sacral Svâdhisthana, "Your own place" 6
Solar Plexus Manipûra, "The home of the Jewel" 10
Hearth Anahâta, "The source of the sound" 12
Throat Vishûddhi, "The purified" 16
SUMMARY 48
Third Eye Ajnâ, "Control" 2 x 48 = 96
SUMMARY 48 + 96 = 144
Crown Sâhâshrara, "1000 blades" 144 x 1000 = 144 000
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> Vic said that the kria yoga he learned was not the same as was taught
> to/by
> Yogananda/SRF.
There are 9 variants of Kriya Yoga, as far as I know yet, refering to what
Yogananda called "Kriya Yoga and similar techniques". Yogananda modified Babaji's Kriya Yoga, in order to make it more appropriate for the Western people.
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I'm the first person to admit that there are reasons for secrecy, in
certain cases, because certain paths of initations are very dangerous. I
can mention one of them, an initiation which a friend of mine received from a person who managed to penetrate the Tibetan border. Based on an ancient Tibetan / Chinese ritual, a "secret doctrine", it is called
"Yar-Gi-Sang-Thal-Chen-Po" - The Great Straigthforward UPWARDS (VERTICAL) Way (Towards The Clear, Original Ligth seen after Death), the oral base of The Tibetan Book of Death, characterized as very dangerous, as it has only two possible outcomes: instant liberation or eternal damnation.
Sudden liberation, without any spesific methods, is however implied in the tantric concept of the "effort-less" and "natural" liberated sage. It is
the concept that perfect awakening is something connecting to our everyday life (an attitude also found in Zen), that the highest initiation is to realize our Buddha-nature, our Christ-Self without eliminating the "dirt"
at the first stage.
The direct awakening, the vertical way upwards, is a result of an abrubtly conversion in the depths of the counsciousness, so all dualism is thrown away. Our consciousness is compared to the mirror of imagination which consequently reflects all forms and images in front of it.
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And, as I wrote to loba kola:
Try to use elements from Nature as meditation objects. In fact, I believe
Hawaii is an excellent place for performing Kriya Yoga, because of the Sea
Do you have any images of the Sea inside you, a choosen place which you promise never to tell anyone about ? A seaside of beauty, and an inner feeling of harmony with nature ?
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> taoist energy
> channeling technique. The chi travels up the spine, across the top of
> head, down
> nose/tongue and front of torso to the tan tien and then back to the
> prostate.
> The macrocosmic circuit is practiced while standing and circulates the
> chi on a
> circuit through each of the limbs as well so it's a five loop circuit. I
It is similar to both the microcosmic and the macrocosmic circuits. There
are, however also possible to make the circulation ABOVE the head (larger than macrocosmic), which implies the answer to your question:
> >It's called "hridâya" (beauty) and has 8 "blades". The heart chamber
> >(hridâyâkasham) have been known by all cultures. In the Great
> > Egyptian Pyramid, it was symbolized by the "Queens chamber".
> >
> >
> >
> Isn't the queen's chamber at the point in the pyramid only one third from
> the bottom?
> Wouldn't this imply pending the symbol compares accurately that the
> heart, the middle of a human torso is only a third of some distance
> longer than the human body?
Under the pit of the Pyramid of Gizah, a long channel downwards beneath the gound, represents the regenerative system, the foundation, the indri chakra. And the kings chamber (crown chakra) beeing in the middle of the pyramid, and the ajna just beneath is a beautifull symbolism. You could ask as well: Why is the crown chakra in the MIDDLE and not at the top ? Because we have centers above our physical body, many in fact.
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The circulations are necessary to bring energy in motion. We all have a
tendency to "freeze", to be one-dimensional, to use only a fragment of our whole (holy) beeing. The circulation brings energy in motion by
transforming negative feelings and emotions into their positive
counterparts. Emotion = Energy in motion ! One of the reasons behind
illness, diseases, is our tendency to use only a limited part of ourself,
causing the energy patterns (prana) in ourself to be erronously distributed (too much energy here, too little energy there).
It has helped me to cure imbalances impossible to cure by school medicine. One example was a bleeding wound in my stomach. Let me also add, that without Kriya Yoga, I haven't survived an incident which I'm not going to talk about here, an attempt to literarily throw the plug out of me. If you use the proverb "know them by their fruits", consider these E-mail as a miracle !
And it has given me a higher quality of life, which is impossible to
quantizize. When performing 50 Kundalini circulations the day after a
learned it, I entered a state of cosmic consciousness, of bliss, in my
everyday life, which endured in 12 hours. I saw, felt, the inherent
divinity in everything around me, as a child discovering the world for the
very first time in his life.
Gradually, but certain, I have regained a balance which it seems I never
have had in these incarnation. Before I learned it, I was a living energy
bomb. I was able to practice distant healings, there was an increasing
amount of phenomenas like clairvoyance, clairaudience, clairsentence,
telechinese, bilocations etc. Kriya Yoga has helped me to marriage my
spiritual and physical life, in a splended balance.
Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 20:36:41 -0500 (CDT)
From: hbarrettATnospamix.netcom.com (Holly N. Barrett, Ph.D.)
To: NancyATnospamwtp.net
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: DNA and Kundalini
Message-Id: <199805040136.UAA06469ATnospamdfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com>
You wrote:
>
>I'm working on a researching a possible connection with the ancient
>concept of kundalini and DNA. Has anyone ever encountered reading
>anything about this? I have never been interested in this until now so
>if anything passed by me, I have missed it.
>
The only connection I can think of -- and I'm sorry I don't have
sources at hand -- is that there is some evidence that religiosity is
supported genetically. There is also evidence that migraine/epilepsy
is hereditary and that migraine/epilepsy is correlated with experiences
of cosmic consciousness -- not that bliss is "only" a temporal lobe
episode, but that anything that shakes us up enough can allow God a way
in. There are countless k-awakened people who don't fall into either
of these categories, naturally, but I got interested in this because my
grandmother (whom I did not know) gave me both her migraines and her
love of the divine -- attributes that completely bypassed my mother,
incidentally. I have no problem imagining that a predisposition to
"seek" might be set up by our gene stuff since it is nearly a universal
human characteristic on some level. But we also have the power to
override innate tendencies. And then of course there is Grace. Holly
Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 22:48:45 -0300
From: "Larry Schmitz" <taniaATnospamcentroin.com.br>
To: "WHYASK" <WHYASKATnospamaol.com>, <Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Ego and K
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Kristin,
How old are you? The symptoms you are describing are very much those which
my daigjter wemt through about a year ago....she was finally diagnosed with
having
a thyroid problem. Please don't be alarmed. If this is your case
medication and treatment are readily available. My daughter is 26.
health, happiness & love,
larry
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From: WHYASK <WHYASKATnospamaol.com>
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com <Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Date: Sunday, May 03, 1998 8:09 PM
Subject: Fwd: Ego and K
>
>
><< In a message dated 98-05-03 15:28:57 EDT, you write:
>
> << Dear Kristin,
> Tho I do mean to be helpful, and I somewhat stand by my last advice,
> in a general way.. it also occurs to me that I may have failed to listen
> to you.. or at least to ask how it is that you see your ego problem?? It
> would help to have a bit more information from you, because if you see
> your ego as somehow the source of causing this depression..is it
> tormenting you?? perhaps calling you a failure in some way?? Sometimes
> Kundalini does bring up all sorts of feelings, like a dark night of the
> soul type experience. Would you be able to describe a bit more what you
> are experiencing?? And why you think it is an ego problem?? It would
> help us on the list to understand better how to advise you, too.
>
> With much love and concern,
> Glo Lee >>
>
> Dear Glo
> I am not sure if it is my ego, but I feel like maybe my ego will not let
me
>release my pain, if that makes any sense. At some points it seems like my
>egois tormenting me, and causing pain, but at other times I do not notice
it,
>I just feel low, no energy. Everytime I think something, my ego tells me
its
>wrong, or no. I feel like the world is no longer bright, I only see and
feel
>darkness. It feels like my body has been torn into small pieces, that can
not
>be be put back together. I have not been sleeping at all, and eating very
>little. I have uncontrollerable crying. Everything seems hopeless no
matter
>how hard I try, or how many baby steps I take.
> Kristin
>
>
>
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Date: Sun, 03 May 1998 20:08:44 PDT
From: "Gloria Lee" <samyanaATnospamhotmail.com>
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, WHYASKATnospamaol.com
Subject: Re: Fwd: Ego and K
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>From: WHYASK <WHYASKATnospamaol.com>
>Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 19:08:20 EDT
>To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
>Subject: Fwd: Ego and K
>
>
>
><< In a message dated 98-05-03 15:28:57 EDT, you write:
>
> << Dear Kristin,
<SNIP> Would you be able to describe a bit more what you
> are experiencing?? And why you think it is an ego problem?? It would
> help us on the list to understand better how to advise you, too.
>
> With much love and concern,
> Glo Lee >>
>
> Dear Glo
> I am not sure if it is my ego, but I feel like maybe my ego will not
let me
>release my pain, if that makes any sense. At some points it seems like
my
>ego is tormenting me, and causing pain, but at other times I do not
notice it,
>I just feel low, no energy. Everytime I think something, my ego tells
me its
>wrong, or no. I feel like the world is no longer bright, I only see and
feel
>darkness. It feels like my body has been torn into small pieces, that
can not
>be be put back together. I have not been sleeping at all, and eating
very
>little. I have uncontrollerable crying. Everything seems hopeless no
matter
>how hard I try, or how many baby steps I take.
> Kristin
>
>
>
Dear Kristin,
Considering the severity of your symptoms..it seems that the more
immediate concern ought to be your health. You have not yet said how
Kundalini is manifesting or causing any of these symptoms. However,
there is too much risk with your not sleeping or eating..AND to be
feeling hopeless and having the uncontrollable crying you mentioned
before. Please seek medical help and evaluation by a doctor. You need to
get help, Kristin. Please let us know you will do so, ok??
Whatever or however or whenever...your spiritual life and progress
can and will continue later. But since you have been suffering this
desperately for the 2 weeks, since we have met you here...it seems too
irresponsible to assume this is just some Kundalini symptoms and for you
or any of us to try to continue managing this by email..
We all here may have different opinions..but you need to be seen and
evaluated by a doctor before these problems worsen. It is difficult to
know at this distance what your total history and your real physical and
emotional needs may be. Please be assured that you are cared about
deeply, and I mean this most kindly when I say that your own thinking
may no longer be all that clear, given what you have been suffering with
so intensely. While it may help you to feel better to have people
listen, it does not seem to be actually helping your problem with your
symptoms.
With love,
Glo Lee
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Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 23:59:49 -0500
From: "Roberto Gonzales del Valle" <930359ATnospamaloe.ulima.edu.pe>
To: <NancyATnospamwtp.net>
Cc: "Kundalini List" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: RE: DNA and Kundalini
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Hi Nancy:
I posted before how life took me many places before I got in here. This list
was one of the answers I was looking for.
Did you get my post on ayahuasca experiences?
Well, I live in Lima, Peru, an hour by plane from the amazon. There are
still shamanic practices envolving a root called Ayahuasca, which has been
found very useful on treating even from psicosis to drug abuse.
I participated in one Ayahuasca ritual once and had a near-death experience
(Ayahuasca means "root of the death" or root of the spirit in the
traditional languaje of that zone). It´s not a thing to be frightened of.
One of the visions is that of two serpents (fluorescent) wraped around each
other. The root has the same shape like a curl formed by two strains wraped
around each other. I didn´t know then that the DNA structure has the same
shape. So does the flow of energy on some yogic, K included, practices.
Later I found every traditional culture has icons of this form, two serpents
wraped aorund each other. Even the ying-yang simbol can be seen as that
visualization seen from the upside. DNA is the molecule of LIFE so it is
what connects us all with all! The Aztecs from Mexico worshiped
Quetzalcoatl. Which was like a serpent dragon (tai chi tryies to unite them
both too!) Well, "coatl" means both, serpent and twin.
There is a book, very recommendable on that issue: "The Cosmic Serpent, DNA
and the origins of knowledge", by anthropologist Jeremy Narby.
You can find it in this link (I hope it does serve you on your research):
http://www.worldcitizen.org/issues/octnov96/spiritual.html
If you have any questions please feel free to ask.
Roberto.
-----Mensaje original-----
De: Nancy <NancyATnospamwtp.net>
Para: kundalini-1 <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Fecha: Domingo 3 de Mayo de 1998 06:26 PM
Asunto: DNA and Kundalini
>I'm working on a researching a possible connection with the ancient
>concept of kundalini and DNA. Has anyone ever encountered reading
>anything about this? I have never been interested in this until now so
>if anything passed by me, I have missed it.
>
>Any help or leads are appreciated!
>
>Thanks,
>Nancy
Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 01:39:42 EDT
From: WHYASK <WHYASKATnospamaol.com>
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Ego and K
Message-ID: <14a2619a.354d549fATnospamaol.com>
In a message dated 98-05-03 21:41:18 EDT, you write:
<< Kristin,
How old are you? The symptoms you are describing are very much those which
my daigjter wemt through about a year ago....she was finally diagnosed with
having
a thyroid problem. Please don't be alarmed. If this is your case
medication and treatment are readily available. My daughter is 26.
health, happiness & love,
larry >>
I am 20. A few weeks ago, I underwent many test trying to rule out many
different possiblities. One was a Thyroid test, Everything checked out okay.
Kristin
Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 03:09:34 EDT
From: WHYASK <WHYASKATnospamaol.com>
To: samyanaATnospamhotmail.com, Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Ego and K
Message-ID: <681c49bb.354d69afATnospamaol.com>
In a message dated 98-05-03 23:09:14 EDT, you write:
<< Considering the severity of your symptoms..it seems that the more
immediate concern ought to be your health. You have not yet said how
Kundalini is manifesting or causing any of these symptoms. However,
there is too much risk with your not sleeping or eating..AND to be
feeling hopeless and having the uncontrollable crying you mentioned
before. Please seek medical help and evaluation by a doctor. You need to
get help, Kristin. Please let us know you will do so, ok?? >>
Glo,
In the past week, or more, I have seen many doctors, and I have had my run
with therapist. I explain in detail, my pain and problems in which I have been
having. None, have seemed to do anyhting/understand, they did recommed
medication. I have always been against meds, and also have had some bad
experiences on the. The other day I decided I need something, I could not do
ths with out help, so I have started to take St. John's Wort. My appitite is
still not strong, but I have been trying to eat more everyday, I am not sure
about the sleep though, maybe it will come.
Kristin
Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 03:17:18 -0500
From: Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Spontaneous Kundalini Arising
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Tess (the sittigs <tmsittigATnospamcal-net.net>) wrote:
>Question:
>Has anyone had a spontaneous kundalini experience after going through deep
>grief from a loved one passing on? Quite new to this and very confused!!!
Maybe your loved one is helping you into a new stage of life and
development? :)
Love,
Ann
P.S. After I wrote the above - and my guide said, "Send it!" - I read your
next post, where you said:
>Also hoping part of it all is Michael dropping in to say HI!!
Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 10:29:40 +0200
From: "Sen Ashanka"<sashankaATnospamaismi.ais.it>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Yoga Web Sites
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There are tons and tons of Yoga web sites on the Internet.
Some of them are listed here, and could lead to further sites.
Yoga and Tantra related sites
http://www.internetyoga.com/"
http://www3.eu.spiritweb.org/Spirit/Yoga/kriya-janakananda.html"
http://members.aol.com/kyashram/index.htm"
http://www.base.com/blaise/yoga.html"
http://www.yoga.com/"
http://www.yogananda-srf.org/"
http://www.sivananda.org/"
http://www.geocities.com/RodeoDrive/1415/index.html"
http://users.iol.it/surya/"
http://www.yoga.com/raw/yoga/info/sutras/SutrasBecksEnglishVersion.html"
http://perrypip.netservers.com/yoga.html"
http://whitelotus.org/"
http://personal.smartt.com/~indra/"
http://www.yogajournal.com/"
Kundalini
http://www.levity.com/alchemy/bhogar.html"
http://www.yogibhajan.com/ikyta.html"
http://hmt.com/kundalini/articles.html"
http://www-cad.eecs.berkeley.edu/~keutzer/kundalini/kunda-bib-web.html"
http://www.connecti.com/~marcus/kunda.html"
http://www.reference.com/cgi-bin/pn/listarch?list=KUNDALINI-LATnospamexecpc.com"
http://www.telebyte.nl/krce/"
http://www.eskimo.com/~ori/kundalni.htm"
http://www.telebyte.nl/~frans/we/"
http://www.eskimo.com/~ori/ori.html"
Have fun...
Cheers and love to all
Ashanka
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