1998/04/29 06:44
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #343
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 343
Today's Topics: Re: My ol' Dad.. [ Glenda Lynne ]
Lurking due to the excess noise-to-s [ jenny.hillATnospammail.utexas.edu (Jenny) ] God/Goddess/It [ LIGHHTNINGRODATnospamwebtv.net (debbie rob ]
Re: Lurking due to the excess noise- [ Harsha1MTM ] Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource [ Harsha1MTM ]
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 22:20:02 -0700 From: Glenda Lynne
To: Mystress Angelique Serpent CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: My ol' Dad.. Message-ID:
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Mystress Angelique Serpent wrote:
Hello:
SNIP
Clearing some Ghosties on the weekend, I had been drawn into a lot of
cultural pain and anger, hope and wisdom, and at one point sitting alone
as ego cannot comprehend the entire structure and so makes odd guesses based on glimpses of things
half-seen. Then looks for the polarity to find the balance of possibilities. A puzzle..
SNIP
I have since been given the directive to release all attachments.. pretty
standard advice from spirit.. but as I move to give up what I think I know,
send it out my head back to Goddess, it is replaced by glimpses of a
wordless shifting pattern of energy.. beautiful greens and purple-golds, all colors, like an energy map of that part of the planet. It is so
beautiful I can only give it love. So I am getting that my work is with the land itself,
and not the politics of the people on it. Suits me fine.. never liked politics
much. Give love to the Earth itself, it will flow back out magnified to the
folks moving on it.
My host for the weekend gifted me with a drum, as thanks for
the work clearing the ghosts that had been causing his children and family some
distress. The drum was crafted, he said, by their oldest and best drummer and drum maker.. and such a gift is the traditional thanks from his
people. O Joy!
He gave me a choice of two drums.. but there was no contest. SNIP
When my host offered it as a gift to me I was speechless.. astonished. Awed. Grateful.
SNIP
Blessed be. Love, Mystress.
Angelique,
Thank you so much for passing this warm and wonderful story on to me. I greatly enjoyed reading it and felt your awe and surprise at the things
that have recently befallen you. What an exciting adventure our lives are, are they not?
I just attended my first drumming ceremony, thanks to Deb, while I ws
in Florida with her, and it was one of the most incredible experiences of my life. In fact, I remember thinking that I had never felt more
alive than I did at that moment. About an hour or two into it, I began to feel a compulsion t sing what seemed to be native American chants,
and I did, and it was... just... extraordinary!!! The chants just came through loud and clear and felt right and so good. WOW!
And now you have a sacred drum. Congratulations! It's part of the new age on the planet, I'm sure. The energy increases,
and that makes the way easier for us all.
A word about your work with the natives, the land, and the unhappy ghosties. :<) I have been drawn into doing some pretty amazing clearings
in the last year, and I have found a few techniques that seem to work for me. These techniques enable one to clear and to actually "experience"
the pain and joy of the spirits who are hanging around the clearing without getting drawn into, or trapped in, their misery. Since no one taught
me these techniques, except the forces that work with me as I clear, I cannot give you a reference for them. But they are based on the work
I did in Actualism, and they work for me, so I feel drawn to send them to you.
First, before you begin, recognize that all areas, people, events, etc.,
needing clearing retain both light and dark. The light we call "good", and the dark we call "evil". But, of course, there is no such thing.
There is, however, joy and pain, and that is how we humans experience light and dark in our structures.
Soooo, when you clear, it is preferable to have two people work together.
One becomes the dynamic force (the domina), and one becomes the magnetic force. Together they light a spiritual fire above them on the soul
plane, and they empower the fire with the ability to raise low frequency energy (pain, ignorance, life impeding) to high frequency energy (joy,
wisdom, life giving). This is done merely by thinking it, or by asking the immortals present to help you do so. It is no big deal, just
focus on it, and it is done.
The dynamic partner then draws pure energy in from the spiritual fire and "drives" it through the structure that is being cleared... land, person,
object, etc. The dynamically driven energy picks up low frequencies from the object being cleared, and rushes to the magnetic partner.
The magnetic partner, then, draws or pulls the energy out through his/her own form, and sends the energy into the purifying fire. Then the
dynamic member pulls that same energy back out of the fire, and the energy is at that point high frequency energy, which is not only full of joy but
full of learning. It is called Essence. You can see that a triangle, or even a circle is formed between the dynamic partner, the
magnetic partner, and the purification fire.
Too often we clear without knowing what we are doing, and we just shoot all the low frequency energy into the field of the planet or even our own
fields. Granted, the planet will eventually clear the energy and raise it to high frequency, but there are two problems to this method:
1. The planet has enough to take care of from
those who unknowingly dump their low frequencies into its field . Those of us who are "in the know" should take care of our own messes.
2. The object or person or place being cleared
will not get the full value of the learning that comes with the purified energy. Essence, once assimilated, is the best preventative measure
for having to repeat the same lessons again and again. It is a Karma stopper!
So, my guess is that the low frequencies got pulled out very effectively
but had nowhere to go and lodged wherever convenient... like in your form, thus causing you headaches and some pain.
If you cannot find another person to help you clear, or just happen
to be alone at the time, ask an angel or other immortal to help you by taking the dynamic or magnetic end of the clearing, whichever you feel
you do NOT want to do. I usually end up being the magnetic, and when clearing alone, an incredible black and white striped angel assists me.
(Very symbolic, I assure you.)
Now, a word of caution to those of you who are magnetics, as I am. You may very well FEEL, or even re-experience, some of what the low frequency
energy contains. Just know this. It will not harm you. It will only pass through you... IF you remain centered and in the position
of the observer. It is all right to feel it. I even cry and speak with the various energies, but then my axis remains steady and
centered at all times, so that I am experiencing myself experiencing the experience. (Sounds way more complicated than it is.)
It would seem that the planet is in a major phase of rebalancing.
Therefore dark force is asserting its god-given right to become the godchild co-creation that it truly is. Dark is absolutely necessary to the
life of the planet and this plane, and to seek only the light is folly. Pure light would be as painful as pure dark. It is the balance that
gives and sustains life and justice and vibrancy on this plane. Therefore, many light/dark power vortices are opening up, and guess what? You
probably were just sitting on one... attempting to clear it. Congratulations! Not many are able to do it. Even fewer actually are given the opportunity.
It is a great honor and not to be taken lightly.. (a little pun there! Heh, heh!)
Lastly, think of yourself as totally porous, without any resistant form
to your structures... as if you are only the spaces between all those atoms and molecules, for in truth that is what we are... mostly space, not at
all solid. That will enable the energy to travel through you more easily with less potential for residual effects. It is a high you
cannot even fathom to feel a vortex open up within/without you. And the celestial beings that accompany this special feat are multitudinous
and powerful. It is nothing to fear.
I am no expert on rituals and am sort of a loner in this work. I never intended to do it, but now I am. I cannot assert that it
is the "best" or "only" method for clearing, and I am not claiming to be some special powerful person. In fact, I rather think that the job
is not assigned to the most powerful humans, but more often to the most porous ones... the one who are most open and willing to allow energy to
flow through them. In other words, Mystress, maybe you and I are more like straws without the paper, if that makes sense.
I have no idea why this is so effective, but it is. I think it
might have something to do with polarities and magnetic/dynamic balance. No duh, that was not a very brilliant conclusion. I do know this.
It is essential that at least one entity involved in the clearing be in form (in a body), because it cannot be done by immortals and celestial
beings alone. So, we are needed to earthe the energy, to keep it from dissipating, to direct and focus the energy in this time/space/dimension.
Now, I have made this all sound quite simple, but I am not advising
everyone to go try it. You should first just work with light/fire energy, then when you feel ready, try it on something simple, such as a
headache or a low grade pain that a friend may be experiencing. Don't run out and do it on sacred grounds. Build your successes.
Oh yes, and finally... BELIEVE what you experience as the energy flows
through you. If you are working with a partner, write down your experiences and compare AFTER writing. If you are working on a person,
don't be surprised if you suddenly KNOW things about them that you didn't plan on knowing. You may feel impelled to ask questions of them...
from someone on the other side, etc. Each clearing is highly individual and amazing.
WHEW!!!! What a long post. Deep apologies for the bandwidth,
but it seemed that I was supposed to tell you this, and now I have!
Good clearing to you all! If you have questions, feel free to write me, as I am not on the list. Also, feel free to think I am
a nut case and to totally dismiss everything written here. :<D In the long run, it doesn't matter. But then you all knew that...
Love and balance,
Glenda
-- "Vague
and nebulous is the beginning of all things. but not their end. And I would fain have you remember
me as a beginning. Life, and all that lives, is conceived
in the mist and not in the crystal And who knows but a crystal is mist
in decay?"
"The Prophet"
by Kahlil Gibran
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 02:48:59 -0500
From: jenny.hillATnospammail.utexas.edu (Jenny) To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
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HI folks--
I've been lurking on this list for over 2 years now.... since right after my first big K movement. I have had to unsubscribe numerous times because
of the huge volume of email the list generates.
I seldom have the time or energy left to post a comment once I've finally managed to actually wade through the whole day's worth ofK-list postings.
When I have bothered to write in to the list, it's usually been to ask people to be considerate about their postings and reduce the volume of
irrelevant stuff that gets posted to the list (the reposting of an entire email instead of just the relevant snips being referred to, and the
chatting back and forth in what's basically just a 2-conversation-- these are two of the biggest wastes of bandwidth and time on this list....) so
that folks without a lot of free time like me can still have a chance to participate. Every time I've posted this comment, the list is (usually)
deluged by people defending their Shakti-given right to post in whatever irrelevant, inconsiderate, and careless manner they choose. So this time I
was really glad to see Kurt and Mystress Angelique bring the subject up. I'll add my voice to all those other lurkers who don't participate more
often because it's too hard to get a word in edgewise, as it were.
I think I have some experiences and thoughts that would be interesting to the rest of the list, and I'm sure many of the other lurkers do, too.
However, after 2 years of watching this list be occupied by just a few folks, I'm convinced that "the more things change, the more they stay the
same" I love to see all the comments from folks who've had K-experiences that they share with the list, and I really appreciate the sanskrit and
Vedic discussions, too. But as far as the endless repostings of copies of "replied-to" emails, and the "one-ups-manship" type of arguments (as well
as other personal conversations) -- I really wish they could stay off this list, but I don't think it's going to happen.
So, until I have a whole lot more free time on my hands, this is probably
all you'll hear from me for a while.
A couple of other comments before I go. One is that I'm very familiar with the spontaneous heavy weeping associated with K movement, as well as
shaking, sweating, laughing, and bouts of strange breathing rhythms, and interesting body movements. I work with several healing disciplines that
consider these phenonmena to be signs that the body is healing old hurts that have gotten locked into the body's energy system. In these
disciplines, Kundalini is not always spoken of per se, but what is acknowledged is that healing energy is flowing and the movement of energy
is the cause of these seemingly unprovoked outbursts.
My other comment, which is related to the one above, is that if any one is interested in reading about my first big K experience (I did have lots of
smaller and subtler experiences before the big one) it's posted on the Kundalini site at this URL:
http://www.execpc.com/~libra/kund/a_jenny.html
bye for now, and I'll see you from Lurkerland!
Jenny Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 07:53:12 -0400
From: LIGHHTNINGRODATnospamwebtv.net (debbie robinson) To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
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Seems to me that the gender question
could be viewed a bit differently. When we refer to God as male, there are many male aspects that we honor in those moments....and, of course,
many female aspects that we honor or acknowledge in our other times of revelation. Perhaps it comes to us in these
various personal forms to create balance and to enlarge our undertanding. The same is true of the emotional attributes....the
loving aspect and the impersonal force are both truths, as are the power and weakness of the Infinite. We embody these as well. Maybe it's a
matter of discovering , enjoying, and embracing and being embraced by all these Energies. Fluidity is key....no need to insist on one view
over another....tho I personally harbor a certain fondness for God as Lobster....
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 09:28:37 EDT From: Harsha1MTM
To: jenny.hillATnospammail.utexas.edu, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com Subject: Re: Lurking due to the excess noise-to-signal
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In a message dated 4/29/1998, 4:31:23 AM, jenny.hillATnospammail.utexas.edu writes: < so
that folks without a lot of free time like me can still have a chance to participate. Every time I've posted this comment, the list is (usually)
deluged by people defending their Shakti-given right to post in whatever irrelevant, inconsiderate, and careless manner they choose>>
Harsha: I believe Jan earlier suggested that what is considered irrelevant,
inconsiderate and careless is highly subjective. The same posts may still be helpful to others. Holly and Gloria and Sharon have said the same thing, as
have many others. Different solutions have been suggested. There are many people working and employed full time, who "make the time" for the list as a
"service." And as far as your comment about Shakti-given right to post, you have it also (the same Shakti given right). You have the right to your
opinion, as do others. I think Angelique tries to strike the right balance between being practical and allowing for diversity of thought. Being highly
perceptive she sees both aspects of this issue and is trying to manage it. Angelique's message about members more or less regulating themselves makes
sense. Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 09:39:50 EDT
From: Harsha1MTM To: magneagaATnospammonet.no, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, keutzerATnospameecs.berkeley.edu
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In a message dated 4/28/1998, 6:10:41 PM, magneagaATnospammonet.no writes:
<I'm a 32 year old Norwegian who found your website after a search on Alta Vista.
As a person with everyday experiences with Kundalini, I just want to add some
important point which is often forgotten among those practising Kundalini Yoga.
I'm practising something called Kriya Kundalini Yoga (sometimes performing up
to 1000 Kundalini circulations (Kriyas) on a single day), and do have valuable information to share. I feel, in fact, that it is my duty.>>
Harsha: A 1000 circulations in one day. Very good. Very good. I was feeling so
happy for brother Kurt after reading your message. I am surprised he has not responded to you. I will take the liberty to ask on his behalf. Tell us more
about what you do and why you do it and where you learned it, and how you feel it helps you and how you are feeling, etc.
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