1998/04/28 05:35
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #340
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 340
Today's Topics:
Re: weeping [ John Heaton <CttlemanATnospampsbnewton.com ]
Re: weeping [ Kari Tyler <proph1984ATnospamearthlink.net ]
Re: Chakras [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
A brave Munchkin.. [ Germaine Hornsby <ghornsbyATnospamtallship ]
Re: The Guest and the Host [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
Re: K-list posting Members pay atten [ Mary Ezzell <maryATnospamsonic.net> ]
RE: Stuff [ "Jan Barendrecht" <janbarenATnospamcorreo. ]
RE: kundalini-l (was RE: unsuscribe) [ "Jan Barendrecht" <janbarenATnospamcorreo. ]
RE: weeping [ "Jan Barendrecht" <janbarenATnospamcorreo. ]
Re: K-list posting Members pay atten [ Geryl and Mark Waind <gandm.waindATnospams ]
WHY CONTINUE? [ Geryl and Mark Waind <gandm.waindATnospams ]
For the newbies [ "Susan Carlson" <divine_goddessATnospamhot ]
RE: weeping [ "Roberto Gonzales del Valle" <93035 ]
Sound and Vision [ "Roberto Gonzales del Valle" <93035 ]
k list has babies [ "Susan Carlson" <divine_goddessATnospamhot ]
Re: weeping [ Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iis ]
Re: WHY CONTINUE? [ lobster <lobATnospamlobster.newnet.co.uk> ]
Mailing List [ Gene Kieffer <gkiefferATnospamnetaxis.com> ]
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 08:41:13 -0500
From: John Heaton <CttlemanATnospampsbnewton.com>
To: fredaATnospamblarg.net
CC: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: weeping
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freda wrote:
>
> Hello List,
> Saturday morning I began to weep uncontrolably. I was not depressed,
> sad, angry, frustrated...any of those things which might normally cause
> me to cry... (but then this wasn't crying). I don't recall ever feeling
> as I did on Saturday, I have never experienced this before.
> I just let it happen, couldn't think of anything else to do! IT would
> stop for an hour or so and then start all over, I did try to pinpoint
> what was happening to me, but I was unable to do so.
> I assume something is falling away,,, how to know what?
> it was not unpleasnt, just very confusing and a bit embarrassing...not
> knowing where the tears came from...
> the family was uncomfortable, which didn't help, I told them I was fine,
> but they kept trying to "fix" it....this was about the only discomfort..
> that they felt so bad for me when I myself didn't feel bad.
> Sunday was kind of a blur, some weeping but not as intense or as often,
> today I seem fine but wondering what caused this, is this a part of K
> or....?
> If anyone out there has experienced this, please write and give me your
> input...
> thanks,
> freda
John:
Hi Freda. This has happened to me also. It was rather bizaare to say
the least. I was reading an email from my uncle when it happened. It
just started gaining momentum and had a life of its own. I finally went
in and lay on the bed and just let it roll. After a while, I couldn't
tell if I was laughing or crying! It did feel good, and I felt very
peaceful/serene afterword. I have no idea what caused it or if it will
happen again....
I'm sorry I can't offer any insight to what it was since I am clueless
myself. It was very early last fall (7 or 8 months or so) when it
happened and hasn't happened since. I had in fact forgot about it till I
read your account. I would be interested also in any possible
explanations. Just wanted to let you know you aren't alone with this.
Thanks for reminding me about it. :-)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 19:00:56 -0700
From: Kari Tyler <proph1984ATnospamearthlink.net>
To: "Holly N. Barrett, Ph.D." <hbarrettATnospamix.netcom.com>
CC: fredaATnospamblarg.net, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: weeping
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I too, experienced this during my first conscious direction of raising K.
It surged through my body, and I could feel warmth through my heart. The
tears were unanticipated, blended with a myriad of sensations I have never
encountered, thus only noticed it as secondary, after I felt their warmth.
They surged as my heart did, and held my hand close to my heart as if first
occured, the pulsing, light, and love beyond any experience before in my
life. Next time this happened, my body spasmed after my head/crown felt
like it blasted off through that area and outward. I too, at first, was
truly mystified, yet have come to accept these experiences as truly real.
I went through rationalization and self-doubt of occurences that our
culture teaches us to disregard, yet inwardly know it is of a nature beyond
our finite perceptions, to accept it, and it will guide.
Holly N. Barrett, Ph.D. wrote:
> Weeping has been an intermittent, yet consistent, K symptom for me. I
> noticed right off the bat that the tears accompanying K did not make my
> eyes puffy like tears of misery or anger do. Often the tears have no
> content or even feeling and I attribute them to some kind of energy
> surge or unblocking, as you thought. Other times they are clearly
> tears of joy that come along with God-Light-Feeling in my body. They
> also come with revelation that may or may not have emotion attached.
> Sometimes they'll be over in an instant; other times there is sobbing
> that is deep, muscular and not particularly wet. I've given up trying
> to understand it all except that this is obviously what my body needs
> to do to receive stuff that is so big. My husband is a little less
> freaked out by this than he used to be! Love, Holly
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 16:44:34 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: Paul West <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Chakras
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The core of each chakra is rooted in the spine, but it sends out a
trumpet blast of energy shaped like a funnel/tornado to the front and
back.. that is what you feel. the sensation in your forehead is likely
emanating from the pineal gland at the center of your head. Have you ever
seen the "heat sensor" spot on a reptile's head? Our pineal is evolved from
that.. the third eye ..it sees light of different frequencies. All energy
is some form of light, even life..
I would like to take this opportunity to request a middle ground of the
"Sanskrit scholars".
We all pretty much agree there are seven main chakras and three main
nadis and could we please agree to refer to them by number, or something?
1) Root.. tip of tailbone. Fiery red.
2) second chakra, under the navel, I tend to feel it as the point where
the spine joins the hips. Fiery red-gold-orange.
3) Power chakra. At the Diaphragm, under the base of the ribs. Golden
yellow. Where "gut reactions" come from.
4) Heart chakra. Between the points of the shoulder blades, between the
nipples in front. Green of nature, also pink of love. Source of the "still
small voice within."
5) Throat chakra. Base of the neck in back, at the notch of the clavicles
in front. Thought by some to be where the soul enters the body. Electric
blue.
6) Third eye. located at the pineal in the center of the brain at the top
of the spinal column. purple.
7) Crown. At the top of the head, or sometimes depicted as a ball of
white or violet light slightly above the head. The halo.
Some folks also believe there is a "chakra 0" below the feet, in the
Earth, and others say we have three more overhead, corresponding with the
solar system, the Galaxy and the total universe.
This is a very basic map.. if someone (Danijel, harsha or Kurt, pretty
please?) would like to elaborate with the Sanskrit and the sub groupings of
chakras, it would make an excellent reference document for the website..
Blessings, Mystress.
Blessings, Mystress.
At 04:33 PM 27/04/98 +0000, Paul West wrote:
>Hello.
>
>I've been wondering where the chakras are. I think some people spell
>that `cackra' or even `cackhra'.
> There seems to be
>some confusion as to wether the chakras are at the front or the back
>or even in the middle of the body, and where the kundalini does its
>stuff. Is it just that the kundalini is sources in the spine but
>networks out to the chakras which are towards the front of the body?
>
>--
>Paul.
>
>
>
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 22:55:18 -0300
From: Germaine Hornsby <ghornsbyATnospamtallships.istar.ca>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: A brave Munchkin..
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Dear friends,
I've been here for a while.
Long enough to be called a Munchkin. :)
And many times..a Lurker.
But I consider myself neither..
..mostly, I think of myself as a Learner.
Not of Kundalini. Although I hear 'about' it, it's not in my experience.
But a learner of how to become a real human being.
And this list helps me a great deal in learning how.
I find much compassion here, a lot of genuine caring, and I love it
that if anyone needs help or healing..all they have to do is ask.
I like the inspirational posts and the poems. And I like the humour.
I think that we're never more human than when we laugh. (Or has
somebody already said that..? Could be I picked it up somewhere..?)
:)
So..come to think of it, I'm a learning, laughing Munchkin who's found
the courage to say, I'm here..!
But I'll probably post mostly poems..(Stuff that I find, and that really
touches me. If that's OK.)
Until I find my voice....that is.
:)
Many thanks, everyone.
much love,
Germaine
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 19:09:05 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com>
Cc: anandajyotiATnospamgeocities.com, AfperryATnospamaol.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: The Guest and the Host
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At 09:32 PM 27/04/98 EDT, Harsha1MTM wrote:
>In a message dated 4/27/1998 5:18:51 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
>anandajyotiATnospamgeocities.com writes:
>
><< I just found out that I have been subscribed fro the K-list by the
> > System Adminstrator of K-list. This I think, is in response to
> > my comments today regarding the volume of K list mail and which are
> > not pertinent to Kundalini, being the cause of such a volume.
> > Anandajyoti >>
>
>Harsha: I do not understand your message Anandajyoti. There must be an error.
>
Oy, yes it was an error but now he thinks I'm out to get him.. no, no,
no... a number of folks who responded to the thread with unsubscribe in the
header got unsubscribed coz the computer thought it was what they wanted it
to do. In fact, at the moment I still haven't gotten Pegasus mail up and
running so I'm not even able to unsub those who ask me to, let alone go
after our beloved Anandajyoti.
Blessings, Mystress.
>
>
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 18:58:10 -0700
From: Mary Ezzell <maryATnospamsonic.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: K-list posting Members pay attention!!
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At 06:36 PM 4/27/98, Jeanne Garner wrote:
>So...with that in mind...Kurt, if you're reading this, would you please
>explain the yoga of the Nathas?
I really like having the Sanscrit stuff on the list. Angelique had some
good points about traditional teaching vs list sharing. It's nice to see k
people's comments/reality check on those Sanscrit things.
The Sanscrit people have been studying K for, what, a couple of thousand
years at least. They've got terms worked out. (Like teh term 'kundalini'.
Without that word, wonder how many of us would be on tranquilizers or
something intstead of happily letting K do Her thing....)
IMO there's LOTS AND LOTS of good info buried in teh SAnscrit. But it does
take some digging out. We can't find the good stuff as easy by going to
other sources of Sanscrit teachings. (As Angelique pointed out, they have
got their own axes to grind, etc.) So having it put on the list, by k
people who understand both k and the Sanscrit bits they're quoting ... is
INVALUABLE! TREMENDOUSLY HELPFUL!
If anybody wants to do a list with more of the Sanscrit and other serious K
stuff, and less put-downs etc, pls include me on your, er, list. :-)))))
Mary
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 03:42:35 +0100
From: "Jan Barendrecht" <janbarenATnospamcorreo.infase.es>
To: "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
Cc: <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: RE: Stuff
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Paul West [mailto:paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk]
wrote on Monday, April 27, 1998 2:54 AM
<snip>
I have also been looking at my mental attitude towards two different
> pot plants today. I have one which was dying and I was concerned about
> it and now it is more than twice as big.
<snip>
This reminds me of the plants I got as gifts, when I was living in the
"cold" North. The only plants that were thriving were tropical plants,
wether or not I took much care of them. The more home-based plants didn't
make it - despite care they died within a year. Although sansevierias can
grow here in the open, at my former home they were growing much taller
(5'4") then they are growing here. There is some evidence that plants are
sensitive to electrical fields; several species won't grow near powerlines.
If aura-photos reveal something, it is that K. can produce a stronger
electrical field around one then would be the case without K. As even a good
thing can get too much, it is possible that plants react to the stronger
field and I got the "wrong" type of home-based plants. As plants seem to
react on music also (they prefer music with classical harmony instead of
more modern music) this could be the reason. Although now I don't have
plants inside the house, near the garage is a huge bougainvillea that since
I am living here transformed from an inconspicuous tree into an eye-catcher.
As for gardening, all my fingers are thumbs so my "skill" isn't the cause.
It is a bit of a nuisance, as people are saying I should take care for the
other plants/trees also...
Jan
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 03:42:39 +0100
From: "Jan Barendrecht" <janbarenATnospamcorreo.infase.es>
To: "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
Cc: <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: RE: kundalini-l (was RE: unsuscribe)
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Paul West [mailto:paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk] wrote: Monday, April 27, 1998
4:55 PM
<snip>
> Where are you getting these figures Jan? At the moment I seem to be
> getting about 20-30 messages a day, if that.
<snip>
The number I quoted was the highest I received but I don't think it is the
maximum. However, as some ISP's here only grant 1Mb space for E-mail I
started to calculate things of course. In summer traffic will be far less
because K. activates consciousness of nature so when spring arrives writing
letters has to compete with enjoying nature. In summer there are holidays
too but I don't know what the mail-traffic in winter will bring. To me it
shows that the final solution will have to be a private news-server
(password, evt. contribution). I would not be suprised if taking that step
would mean more subscribers - just think what would happen if in the present
situation there would be 4000 subscribers instead of 400.
Jan
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 03:43:23 +0100
From: "Jan Barendrecht" <janbarenATnospamcorreo.infase.es>
To: <fredaATnospamblarg.net>
Cc: <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: RE: weeping
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freda [mailto:fredaATnospamblarg.net] wrote: Monday, April 27, 1998 6:47 PM
> Hello List,
> Saturday morning I began to weep uncontrolably.
<snip>
A comparable phase I experienced in the beginning of K. awakening. In my
case, it was caused by a strange type of clairvoyance. I could as it were,
sense all places, even on photos, where lethal accidents had taken place. It
was very unpleasant, because I was also aware of the agonies caused by the
accidents. Anyway, one cannot keep one's eyes dry with so much misery so I
had to undergo it. Fortunately, this episode lasted only a few days (only to
be followed by other phenomena). I suspect it was a necessary phase of
self-surrender, as fighting it wasn't possible. K. is a very autonomous
process and it will provide whatever is needed for its progress. In my case,
the special clairvoyance was a mere necessity. At present, it still
functions, but only when my life is endangered.
Jan
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 22:52:28 -0700
From: Geryl and Mark Waind <gandm.waindATnospamsympatico.ca>
To: Sharon Webb <shawebbATnospamyhc.edu>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: K-list posting Members pay attention!!
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Sharon Webb wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Kurt wrote:
>
> >I'm primarily interested in:
> >Traditional Kundalini yoga related practices - using effort and intention -
> >kriya yoga, kundalini yoga, hatha yoga, the yoga of the Nathas, the yoga of
> >the Kaulas, Sri Vidya
> >And those of grace: siddha yoga, sahaja yoga, kundalini mahayoga
>
> And I...sadly...am not. When those posts come in I don't have a clue as to
> what the writers are talking about.
>
> Although kundalini yoga is obviously related to k...not all of us can relate
> to kundalini yoga. Many, if not most of us, have had spontaneous awakenings
> and have never followed the yogic path.
>
> So....if I had my druthers, I would rather see esoteric yoga discussions,
> poetry, and the like on a K-yoga list, and everything else on another...at
> least to start. Perhaps later there would be enough interest to spin off
> yet more groups. I think the k phenomena list was a good idea, but it just
> didn't get off the ground.
>
> Sharon
________
I AGREE
mark
ge da nop o
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 23:18:01 -0700
From: Geryl and Mark Waind <gandm.waindATnospamsympatico.ca>
To: lobster <lobATnospamlobster.newnet.co.uk>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: WHY CONTINUE?
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lobster wrote:
>
> > Some of us are subscribed because we are genuinely interested in kundalini
> > - not because we are looking for a chat room or because we are looking for
> > a `` spiritual group''. Unfortunately (in my mind) as time has gone on the
> > focus of conversation has gone farther and farther away from kundalini. As
> > a result to many of those WHO ACTUALLY ARE INTERESTED IN KUNDALINI get up
> > and leave. Leaving the list to those who are interested in ... well, how
> > would you characterize it?
>
> As someone not in the least bit interested in kundalini I would characterise it this way:
> Most people here have experiences which they wish to explain, share, explore and have vindicated. Nobody (except in imagination) stops this process. I personally feel that not enough lurkers and others post and I would like to hear from them a bit more often. For various reasons this might not be easy but it is worth the ef
> Now as someone not in the least interested in Kundalini I try and move people away from what I consider a dramatic but largely irrelevant experience. You are quite welcome to develop peoples interest in Kundalini. You might even consider setting up an email forum on Spirit-Web or elsewhere - this is free - you only need 10 people and everyone can be happy
> So perhaps this solution might serve all. In the meantime . . .
>
> If you feel a snake
> Kill it
> If you find an Angel
> snap off its wings
> but if you meet yourself
> will you still imagine
> that you are not a snake
> or a wingless Angel
> Never Dear Friends
> Never be your self
> You owe it to each Other
> . . . and your Self
>
> PEACE
>
> (Kundalini unrelated) Lobster
> as winging serpent
________
>
>
Excuse me sir, but if you are not the least bit interested in Kundalini,
why do you continue to hang around the Kundalini mailing list? After
all, this is the Kundalini mailing list. It is a mailing list for those
interested in Kundalini. If you are not the least bit interested, then
please move on and make room for those who are truly are interested.
Why not create your own list designed especially for those not
interested in Kundalini? You would have a wide subect base to choose
from and I am sure that you would attract all sorts of interesting
people.
Sincerely
mark
ge da nop o
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 21:42:47 PDT
From: "Susan Carlson" <divine_goddessATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: For the newbies
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http://www.eskimo.com/~ori/kundalini.html
check this site out if you want to know about chakras, kundalini signs
and symptoms, publishings by people on the list, other k resources, etc.
Ori was a member of the k list...now on hiatus...and she is compiling a
directory of resources.
Just about everything that you wanted to know a reference for is in
there.
It is truly helpful for those who are unfamiliar with terms,
experiences, etc.
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Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 22:35:25 -0500
From: "Roberto Gonzales del Valle" <930359ATnospamaloe.ulima.edu.pe>
To: "Kundalini List" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: RE: weeping
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Weeping can part of a cleansing process.
Did you feel lighter afterwards?
There is a book by this mexican guy "How to lose friends" (not K, not
spiritual, very balanced) that says "I don´t think weeping is bad, it takes
away things that were drowning you".
We need to get rid of blockings we weren´t aware off.
Lot´s of love
Roberto
Lima, Peru.
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 22:44:20 -0500
From: "Roberto Gonzales del Valle" <930359ATnospamaloe.ulima.edu.pe>
To: "Kundalini List" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Sound and Vision
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All senses come from the same source.
>paul, re: yr thoughts of isolating sound from vision: when i listen to
>music, or different peoples voices, or birds or wind, i 'see' colors. not
>physically, but in my head (boy it is appearing more and more scarey in
>there.... :) and not just colors, but textures, or opacities to clearness.
>an example, a friend of mine has parents who shared a car. the mother
>listened to mozart, the father to beethoven. when we would get in the car,
>the music would instantly come on and instantly id get color or texture
>patterns in my head. mozart was either dark swirly blues over some kind of
>base that i cant figure out yet or very sparkly tingley light yellows like
>sparks but not so harsh in light quality, more suffused and twinkley as a
>base and i cant figure out the top! and beethoven was dark orangey brown
>thickness with orangey points and hollows beside and under it. different
>styles of music give me colors and patterns as well. some music is sharp
>and steeley and some is like a motorcycle tire skidding out against ones
>skin. some is color-hypnotic in pattern and some is bubble gum suffocating
>glop which is pretty familiar for many people i think. i once kicked
around
>the idea of writing something (fiction) of being somehow trapped on the
>plane that music vibrations exist and the experiences therein. the idea
had
>me thinking of gangs of people who had lost sanity or were under influence
>of drugs (a couple of ways i think that 'portals' open up), or who were
sent
>there for whatever reason and learned to adapt to or locate, or flee from,
>the different texture and color music entities that would either attack,
>remain aloof to, or just lie in wait for them. hehehee keeping it
>short.... :)
>
>loba kola
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 21:49:46 PDT
From: "Susan Carlson" <divine_goddessATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: k list has babies
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I wonder if one list that would be good is the K scholar list...which I
think would cover many of the things that Kurt is talking about.
I do like to read thru what those esoteric things are about, but as with
Sharon I am a spontaneous awaker in K and am pretty much home grown and
home schooled in my path.
Actually..it will be nice to have a k site...with chat rooms and
archives and galleries and.....
It just takes someone to step forward and take the responsiblity of
creating one, maintaining it, etc.
I dont know how Mystress sees her hand in the future of the k list and
web site but she has done a great job so far.
Love
Susan
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Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 14:11:53 +0530 (IST)
From: Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in>
To: freda <fredaATnospamblarg.net>
cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: weeping
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Hi freda,
I too to some extent have experienced it.
For me it came through the love for my GURUDEV.It felt as if
MANIPUR chakra was being energised. I was just weeping It
wasn't under my control. I was also surprised on such weeping.
Love,
anurag
On Mon, 27 Apr 1998, freda wrote:
> Hello List,
> Saturday morning I began to weep uncontrolably. I was not depressed,
> sad, angry, frustrated...any of those things which might normally cause
> me to cry... (but then this wasn't crying). I don't recall ever feeling
> as I did on Saturday, I have never experienced this before.
> I just let it happen, couldn't think of anything else to do! IT would
> stop for an hour or so and then start all over, I did try to pinpoint
> what was happening to me, but I was unable to do so.
> I assume something is falling away,,, how to know what?
> it was not unpleasnt, just very confusing and a bit embarrassing...not
> knowing where the tears came from...
> the family was uncomfortable, which didn't help, I told them I was fine,
> but they kept trying to "fix" it....this was about the only discomfort..
> that they felt so bad for me when I myself didn't feel bad.
> Sunday was kind of a blur, some weeping but not as intense or as often,
> today I seem fine but wondering what caused this, is this a part of K
> or....?
> If anyone out there has experienced this, please write and give me your
> input...
> thanks,
> freda
>
>
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 08:35:13 -0700
From: lobster <lobATnospamlobster.newnet.co.uk>
To: gandm.waindATnospamsympatico.ca
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: WHY CONTINUE?
Message-ID: <3544A5B1.E8F0B63BATnospamlobster.newnet.co.uk>
> Excuse me sir, but if you are not the least bit interested in Kundalini,
> why do you continue to hang around the Kundalini mailing list? After
> all, this is the Kundalini mailing list. It is a mailing list for those
> interested in Kundalini. If you are not the least bit interested, then
> please move on and make room for those who are truly are interested.
>
My Dear Mark,
Do I have to explain everything - have you never heard of 'negative
interest' (this is where a financial institution pays you money in such
a way that you owe it to them)?
Being actively not interested is therefore a profound interest. The room
has always been there. Maybe it is too big - too many posts. I accept
this - you can use filters on most email programs. Maybe you do not care
for what is said. If you want to talk about snakes going up and down
your spine and how you are now an enlightened (and able to make a
pretence of
politeness) chakra opener - do so. I consider most of what is said here
to be irrelevant but I encourage more people/lurkers and so on to post,
because some of them are in great need of support, information etc.
> Why not create your own list designed especially for those not
> interested in Kundalini? You would have a wide subect base to choose
> from and I am sure that you would attract all sorts of interesting
> people.
>
What makes you think I do not do this? I note what you are saying.
However I am happy for kundalini to grow. I am happy that more people
are joining than leaving (and staying). It is therefore up to you as the
unhappy party to change things.However Angelique has asked me to be nice
to people (as usual) and I ignore such advice at my peril.
Thank you for your courtesy
Be Well
Lobster
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 08:25:33 -0400
From: Gene Kieffer <gkiefferATnospamnetaxis.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Mailing List
Message-ID: <3545CABD.7214ATnospamnetaxis.com>
Could you tell me what the Kundalini Mailing list is
and where one can have access to it.
Thanks,
Gene Kieffer
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