1998/04/24 15:33
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #328
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 328
Today's Topics:
I am Semen (was I am Cement) [ Shamanic Scene <shamanicsceneATnospamyahoo ]
Re: curious [ Paul West <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co ]
Re: Revelling [ Paul West <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co ]
Re: Some short responses to "Sadness [ Paul West <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co ]
Turning the Other Cheek..... was cur [ Imtgxxx <ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com> ]
some K--symptoms [ melintonATnospamalison.sbc.edu ]
Re: curious (ashanka) [ Mark Anthony Collins <themacmanATnospammac ]
Re: Reply to Paul [ Paul West <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co ]
Re: A Letter from God [ Imtgxxx <ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com> ]
Re: Revelling [ Imtgxxx <ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com> ]
Re: Revelling [ Dan Margolis <margolisATnospamtransbay.net ]
Life is but a dream.... [ Imtgxxx <ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com> ]
Re: Pleasure (and an enlightenment t [ amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us ]
Re: I am Semen (was I am Cement) [ Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com> ]
Re: I am Cement [ "Ed Jason" <lobATnospamlineone.net> ]
Re: Directions for those going the o [ "Ed Jason" <lobATnospamlineone.net> ]
an introduction [ hall12cATnospamMEENA.CC.UREGINA.CA ]
Re: Pleasure (and an enlightenment t [ Rik <rik_wATnospamrocketmail.com> ]
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 12:30:32 -0700 (PDT)
From: Shamanic Scene <shamanicsceneATnospamyahoo.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: I am Semen (was I am Cement)
Message-ID: <19980424193032.29236.rocketmailATnospamsend1e.yahoomail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Hi all:
nice to lurk here.
now i will send my two nickles:
amc:
Lobster entertained us with:
>I AM CEMENT
>Make way, make way
>intelligent and reasonable, sincere seeker coming through
yeah right
>Make way, make way
>I am here - YOU THERE! Yes you! I am here!
where? I am sorry, getting deaf
>Explain yourself (and do it now)
what do I have to expalin myself?
>I wish to understand everything (right now) - get on with helping me
Acid is good, a good rush of K is good. If you accept you need help i
know a good fella shaman of mine, but accept it.
>Make way, make way
ok
"Has anyone told you yet today how brilliant you are? If not, let me
be the
first. This one is so good it should receive wider readership. Have it
published somewhere, maybe. There are many New Age Journal type mags
that
could greatly benefit from its inclusion ;)"
Yes he should be read all over, let´s send it to our friends!
I am asphalt (a bit softer and squidgier than cement, but just as
thick),
amckeon
P.S. Can ya'll tell I have finally caught up on my email? More frenetic
posting ahead, apologies in advance...
***********************
I am not cement, I am Semen and maybe not even that.
Cement is easy to break and very hard to put together again. On the
other hand...
List members:
there is a lot of interesting opinions, sustained by interesting egos,
here. A lot of enlightenment to catch up! Oh I am so far away to being
enlighted...
There is a lot of BS aswell. It´s like life.
Gush I am having a good time lurking.
Will be writting again soon.
Now I have to
make way, make way
Greetings and light to the ones that don´t explain us how to live. And
love to the ones that explain THAT to themselves by mistakenly trying
to tell it to us.
_________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?
Get your free ATnospamyahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Date: 24 Apr 98 19:55:36 +0000
From: Paul West <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: curious
Message-Id: <3540EE38.MD-0.196.paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
Sen Ashanka:
Thanks for writing.
> Thank you for the wonderful letter you wrote, took some time to read,
I thought I was getting a bit sidetracked in it, a bit personal. But I
hope it didn't bore you too much.
> but was wonderful going through it.
:)
> Read it several times. Just like
> what I myself have felt some time back. However, coming from India,
> where spirituality and sensitivity is in abundance, there is no issue
> for a sensitive person to live in company of persons who are also
> sensitive and understand one another and not make a big deal of it.
I can understand that. I know that if I am with somebody I can trust,
I am fine, absolutely fine.
I think maybe I am a bit closer to my subconscious/unconscious than
most people are. Makes things a bit more raw. I seem to have
subconscious pressures I cannot easily control.
> Yes, spirituality does tend to make us a little sensitive and
>caring
> towards other persons. In America, (that is where I believe you
>are
> soming from),
No, I am in southern England. :)
> and other "affluent" countries,
;)
> the situation
>is
> entirely different. To put it in a bit of perspective, the kind
>of
> spirits prevailing there seem to be entirely dark and tending
>towards
> violence, in the physical, mental and interpersonal levels.
It is getting to be that way. There isn't a terrible degree of
difference between how bad it can be in america and how bad it can be
in england. In england we don't really have guns, it's not really in
our collective consciousness, and because america is so huge it is
more impersonal, more survivalist.
> The next stage was to look at happiness. Here, the Greeks looked
> outwards with the idea that the outer world and nature is the answer
> of man's happiness. The ancient Indian thinkers, on the other hand,
> saw through the falacy of this and began looking inwards. The idea
> here was that no outside factor can truely make you happy. The only
> thing that can make you happy is your own self. So go in search of
> this self.....
Yes. I have been sidelined most of my life, not really interacting in
life. I am making an effort now to truly join the flow, to be in the
present, to WANT to be alive and to command my destiny.
> scrounge and earn and buy things that show off their wealth....
People in England are not generally very spiritual. The whole issue of
economy and entertainment and technology and ownership is way out of
hand. Most people would laugh if you even approached the deeper
things. I get this feeling I want to be deep all the time but it's
really hard pushing aside people wanting to get to know you gradually
by way of their elaborate social flaf.
> The two contrasting societies thus produce contrasting results.
> The social freedom in the West resulted in a good development of the
> social standards. Social freedom is not a strong point in the Indian
> society, and so there has been social stagnation and mild attempts
> to break out of such blocking systems.
This so-called western social-freedom is not really freedom IMO. It
requires seperation more than actual individuality.
> Further, on to the kind of society you are facing. True, a
>sensitive
> person will find it difficult to stay in company of shallow
>loud-voiced
> malicious individuals, whose influence is felt even in children.
Yup.
>The
> children these days are losing their childhood so fast, that they
>would
> never enjoy the happiness of a quite evening besides a small
>stream.
Yup.
> They would never feel the beauty of trying to chase a butterfly,
>watch
> a bug wriggle on the ground, admire the symmetry of a flower.....
Yup.
> I am very very childish in my behaviour myself, and find that
>the
> best company I can get are children and my women friends.
I do not mind being with children either. It's just when they start to
become adult that they get more selfish and so on. I have met some
kids who have just elated me with delight, and others who seem like
they have no light, that they are cold and restrained, and their faces
exhibit signs of cursing and hatred and conflict, like they are adult
before their time, WAY before.
>However, in
> my friend circle, all the guys are also sensitive, child-like and
>simple
> in their demands. Once these basic needs are satisfied they do not
>have
> the urge to grab more and more, or to prove anything to anyone else.
Sounds nice.
> Another thing to discuss with you is the fact that, fine, we
>are
> sensitive etc., but can we develop into a mind-set where we can
>be
> what we are like, and not be hurt by what the world does to us
>?
This is what I am only just starting to explore now. What it is like
to stake a claim to freedom, to just be myself without the lying and
the pretence and the sadness of non-agreement.
> This involves developing a kind of buffer with the world, because
>the
> world is like this and cannot change. Nothing will ever change.
>Saints
> and sinners have been born in this world since time immorial and
>will
> continue to do so.
Something is coming to change this. I can see it coming. I see it in
the fact that all of the things people are falsely persuing can only
lead to the light. I see businesses scrambling to create new markets
because the old ones are exhausted. I see advertisers coming up with
stupid exagerrations of things like "This is the best album in the
world, EVER", that kind of thing. People are RUNNING OUT of avoidance.
They try revivals, remixes, reguised old stuff as an attempt to
continue with what they call `civilisation' and its constant persuit
of being something other than it is.
> This is the nature of the world. So, to
>prevent
> ourselves from getting hurt we should develop a buffer to prevent
>our-
> selves from getting hurt.
Yes. I am developing this buffer at the moment. I am allowing myself
to be perhaps wrong, to be maybe doing something that somebody else
doesn't actually like and to keep doing it even in their presence. I
know one has to be careful and one has to not be evil or
incompassionate, but there is freedom at stake, a truth that
transcends ideas about good versus evil, that takes no notice of
IMAGES of good and evil. I am claiming my freedom. I am ALLOWED to be
me.
[Short story about a snake and buddha]
Good story! I can relate to this needing to protect without needing to
unduly hurt another. I have in the past been more inclined to just
give everything to another. In some strange way that is violence. It
is hard for me to establish myself as a seperate individual. I have
been working through my seperation and my dislike of it for some time
now, refining it, finding ways to use it that are not evil or
corruptive. Things are slowly working out.
--
Paul.
Date: 24 Apr 98 20:18:24 +0000
From: Paul West <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Revelling
Message-Id: <3540F390.MD-0.196.paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
> Controll yourself and you control everything around you.
>
> --Signalfire
I might be a bit of a control freak. I don't feel all that happy about
things no going the way I want them to. I don't like surprises much. I
rather want people to act the way I expect them to, for the least
violence and offence to me. I am an idealist.
--
Paul.
Date: 24 Apr 98 19:31:41 +0000
From: Paul West <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Some short responses to "Sadness"
Message-Id: <3540E89C.MD-0.196.paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
Hi amckeon,
[Ability to lie]
> I have a sister with that talent. Were either of your parents alcoholic?
> Lying is a symptom of being an adult child of an alcoholic. Just talkin'
> program talk. Ignore if it doesn't apply...
Neither parents are alchoholics, nor likely to be really.
> Put other people's happiness before my own.
>
> Me:
>
> Don't bother. It doesn't work. The result is that neither of you becomes
> happy. Dumb example.... I buy you a box of chocolates because I think you
> will like them (because I do), you thank me politely so as not to hurt my
> feelings (although chocolates make you gag), so I buy you chocolates for
> every ocassion. Eventually you tell me to quit with the chocolates already!
> I feel like a jerk. Now we both feel bad. Better to risk a little hurt now
> and then... to avoid the big hurt in the long run. See my previous post
> about my mother.
Agreed.
> ...having been left behind...
> Me:
>
> we are still here
:))
--
Paul.
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 15:36:18 EDT
From: Imtgxxx <ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com>
To: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Turning the Other Cheek..... was curious (ashanka)
Message-ID: <bf2f97ab.3540e9b3ATnospamaol.com>
amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us writes:
<< Very different from the Christian "turn the other cheek", eh? >>
I heard an interpretation of this recently I found interesting... To 'turn the
other cheek' means to look at the person or situation differently, from
another point of view... one that would bring you peace.
I like this interpretation, as to use it in the way I looked at it before (to
ignore, deny, look away, etc.) seemed an impossibility for me (been there,
done that - couldn't do).
xxxtg <~~~ thin skinned but can now turn the other cheek
* Deep down I'm pretty superficial *
http://members.aol.com/Teeegeee/tgsplace.html <~~~~ on the web now!
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 15:35:34 -0400
From: melintonATnospamalison.sbc.edu
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: some K--symptoms
Message-Id: <l03130301b166998b6d8fATnospam[198.28.38.107]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>nearly overpowering feelings of sexual desire...usually at the start of a
>rough time---before awareness traveled upward to other chakras
Yow! Um .. I mean, yes!
>during the rough times: electrical systems around me have shorted out
>alot....especially car batteries, alternators, appliances, computers, and home
>heating systems
If I'm all hectic emotionally or charged from meditating a lot I can blowup
a light bulb in no time -- just trying to turn it on ... I think 3 in one
evening was my record.
--Signalfire
The web site you seek
cannot be located but
endless others exist
---- Joy Rothke from Haiku
Error Message competition at Salon
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 14:39:33
From: Mark Anthony Collins <themacmanATnospammacsrule.com>
To: kundalini-l-dATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: curious (ashanka)
Message-Id: <3.0.5.16.19980424143933.0f2f7b58ATnospamearthlink.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Well, the Christian saying "Turn The Other Cheek" is actually quite
misunderstood. It is taken as meaning that you are supposed to offer the
other cheek to be injured when the first one is slapped. However, this
translation is due to the fact that the person who this saying comes from
spoke Northern Aramaic, which Jesus spoke Southern Aramaic.
Aramaic was the language of the common people back in Jesus' time. Whenever
he talked or preached, he talked in Aramaic, not Hebrew. This upset many in
the religious community at the time.
The phrase that gets translated "Turn The Other Cheek" in Northern Aramaic
actually is an idiom in Southern Aramaic, which basically means that one is
not even supposed to acknowledge that wrong was done. Give the offense no
reality in your mind. It never happened. This transcends tradition concepts
of forgiveness, and offers the true meaning of Divine Forgiveness, the
acknowledgement that no wrong has been done.
Mark Anthony Collins
"The MAC Man"
themacmanATnospammacsrule.com
Check out my New Column: The MAC Man, on www.macopinion.com!
Date: 24 Apr 98 20:10:50 +0000
From: Paul West <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Reply to Paul
Message-Id: <3540F1CA.MD-0.196.paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
Briony123 wrote:
> Paul:
>
> I am no different than you.... from reading your posts I felt a similarity in
> experiences....
>
> After some of my own kundalini experiences....times when I would feel really
> tuned in to the world, and extraordinarily perceptive, at times I felt very
> very powerful....
>
> I remember once I actually wondered if I had become a Buddha....
I have been up and down and all over the place. I think I have
probably visited more places via the sheer intensity of imagination
and NON-reality than I have been in reality. I have experienced many
things, many scenarios, in my dreams, that are just wild and
extraordinary. As I am starting to wake up I am finding things coming
together though, like sort of that there is only one reality.
> These periods passed, and I found myself still alive, living within a very
> mundane and limited physical body, still struggling to create wholeness in my
> life, still searching for a compassionate handle on the universe...
Yes. I am still sort of there. Just lately, well for good few weeks
now, I have been sort of having to handle each day more as it comes
than I used to. Either I am getting more detatched from life or more
in-touch with it. Probably both, knowing how paradoxical and ironic
things can get.
> But I am grateful for the augmented perceptions I am left with as a result of
> Shaktipat...the foresight, occasional e.s.p., and just downright "magic" that
> accompanies my path now makes the journey even more interesting....even fun!!!
Sometimes it all seems alright, fun, acceptable. Then things seem to
go wrong and its all negative. I think we probably choose it, knowing
that we are going to overcome it.
> You asked, in your post: "You now have my attention. This struggle is /meant/
> to be happening?"
>
> Gosh--it is happening, therefore, it must be meant........
There has been a great chasm in me between things happening and their
cause - I have been very much a /reacting/ person than an acting
person. I am starting to see for myself that things happen through
meaning, that there might actually be such a thing as a /meaning/ to
life, an intentionalism, a co-creation. Towards and through the end of
last year things were just like a living nightmare. Total loss of
self-esteem has overcome me, total reactionalism, total dead-endedness
and almost completely giving up on life, barely clinging to whatever
is necessary just to get through a single day. But, strange thing is,
this end is not the end of the story.
--
Paul.
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 15:43:29 EDT
From: Imtgxxx <ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com>
To: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: A Letter from God
Message-ID: <c492e12e.3540eb63ATnospamaol.com>
amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us writes:
AMEN. Another wonderful piece of writing by tg. Best be workin' on that
book, girl!
Oh Dear.... Thanx for the compliment, but it ain't mine..... I remember
wishing it was. It was emailed to me with no author given. (so it must have
really been from God!)
Glad you are back posting amckeon - you brighten our days...
xxxtg
* The only thing wrong with Christianity is that nobody's tried it yet *
http://members.aol.com/Teeegeee/tgsplace.html
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 15:55:40 EDT
From: Imtgxxx <ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com>
To: paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Revelling
Message-ID: <902d8932.3540ee3eATnospamaol.com>
paul writes:
<< I might be a bit of a control freak. I don't feel all that happy about
things no going the way I want them to. I don't like surprises much. I
rather want people to act the way I expect them to, for the least
violence and offence to me. I am an idealist. >>
This isn't an idealist -- this is co-dependence!
xxxtg <~~~ takes one to know one
* Thinking the world should entertain you leads to boredom, over-sensitivity,
illness and weakness. Thinking you should entertain the world leads to bright
clothes, great hats, bumping into walls (go amckeon!), outrageousness, and
amazing grace in running for the bus *
http://members.aol.com/Teeegeee/tgsplace.html <~~~~ on the web now!
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 13:21:40 -0700
From: Dan Margolis <margolisATnospamtransbay.net>
To: Paul West <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Revelling
Message-ID: <3540F453.FBEE191DATnospamtransbay.net>
> I might be a bit of a control freak. I don't feel all that happy about
> things no going the way I want them to. I don't like surprises much. I
> rather want people to act the way I expect them to, for the least
> violence and offence to me. I am an idealist.
>
Expectations only lead to disappointment
Dan M.
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 16:26:45 EDT
From: Imtgxxx <ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Life is but a dream....
Message-ID: <b28fe64e.3540f588ATnospamaol.com>
I was at ACIM meeting one night and we began talking about this life here
being an illusion, a dream.
I shared with the group about a dream I had once -- I was sitting with a
group of friends discussing that 'life is but a dream...' ... that even though
it seemed soooo real that we were sitting around talking, we could easily
*just* be a part of someone's dream. We all laughed and pinched each other to
*prove* we weren't dreaming. (ouch!) I awoke later! It all was a dream!
They loved the story of the dream and got an idea of what it might mean for
this world to be a dream, an illusion. And just like in the dream, we all
pinched ourselves just to make sure we weren't dreaming our meeting. (ouch!)
There was even a guy there that said he KNEW this wasn't a dream because it
was too darn real.
And then I woke up from yet but another dream....
xxxtg
* I survived a Kundalini Awakening *
http://members.aol.com/Teeegeee/tgsplace.html <~~~~ on the web now!
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 15:47:28 -0500
From: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Pleasure (and an enlightenment trait!)
Message-ID: <1318689648-57148806ATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
<X-No-Archive: yes>
>> Paul:
>> And when looking for the "ideal woman..."
>> Me:
>> Is that were the sadness is?
>
>Well, not entirely.
>
>> Paul:
>> I prefer immediate and total intimacy.
>> Me:
>> I have been there, done that. It ends in sorrow. You will not feel truly
>> loved until someone truly knows you. Immediate "intimacy" short-circuits
>> true knowing.
>
>What I mean is mental intimacy, mental sympathy, something I am quite
>good at.
You are already sounding more sure of yourself than you did just a few days
ago :)
Ok. I get what you mean now. You are not just serious, you are into intensity.
I also like that feeling when you "click" with someone on a mental or
spiritual level. That can be a real high, but it is so rare (at least for
me) that I cannot build my life around it. Most times I need to take that
slower route of having to explain myself and then try to understand where
the other person is coming from when they explain themselves, etc. But
that's okay. And sometimes that click still occurs, but after some time has
passed. That immediate click thing can be a bit scary.
For me, if it happens with a man, there is usually some kind of sexual vibe
on one or both parts that can be a bit hot to handle. Tricky trying to
tiptoe around the issue. Being married helps, as I am not tempted to jump
into a relationship based on a quick connection. But since these things are
never honestly stated I don't have the opportunity to say "I find you
attractive, but I'm married...." Sometimes I worry people may feel rejected
because of who they are rather than that I'm not free. But then the "vibe"
could just be something I'm feeling and if I blurt something out I'm guilty
of that ASSuming thang.
An attractive young man (my daughter's age!) offered me a back rub at an
"Everyday Mysticism" panel discussion I attended recently. I laughed
nervously and said "no thanks," thinking that if my husband walked in he
might wonder what I was up to, and say something threatening to the young
man. Of course I told my husband about it later and he said that he just
would've laughed. The ASSume caveat applies... What a knucklehead to miss
out on a free backrub, eh?
I remember being at an "Undoing Racism" workshop I had to attend for my job
at the time. I was pretty ignorant about the extent that racism still
permeates society, even in the North. Of course my ignorance and I jumped
right in with some stupid questions.
The facilitator was very good at showing me the error of my thinking
without making me feel like I am a worthless human being. Quite a skill.
THERE, there is an example of an enlightened trait!
Anyhoo, at some point there was that "click," and I remember thinking to
myself "what he's really talking about is loneliness." Then he said
something like "Most people are basically lonely." I met his eyes and there
was a connection there.
So there ya go. If you were leaving sex out of it, I stand corrected. Just
jumping in with both feet and showing my own bias :)
BE WELL
amckeon
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 16:48:59 EDT
From: Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com>
To: shamanicsceneATnospamyahoo.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: I am Semen (was I am Cement)
Message-ID: <4f5e1d7.3540fabcATnospamaol.com>
In a message dated 4/24/1998 12:30:30 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
shamanicsceneATnospamyahoo.com writes:
<< Greetings and light to the ones that don´t explain us how to live. And
love to the ones that explain THAT to themselves by mistakenly trying
to tell it to us.
>>
Harsha: Thanks for the explanation (to yourself of course)!
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 20:15:21 -0700
From: "Ed Jason" <lobATnospamlineone.net>
To: <amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us>, <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: I am Cement
Message-Id: <199804242115.WAA07340ATnospamboober.lineone.net>
> Lobster entertained us with:
>
> >Ed has always confused orifices regarding communication...
>
> Every time I read this it makes me chuckle. It is one of those lines one
> never tires of. I can smile all day every time I think of it and as I apply
> it to different people I know, including myself, I laugh in that way that
> makes my coworkers wonder what I am up to!
Keep them wondering . . .
Thanks for your comments about my poem and Monty Python (the kundalini serpent connection)
I have had a lot of poetry published in small magazines in the past (under a different name). Do not submit much lately. Here is one for you:
Smiley smirk
Cheeky Chuckle
Wiggley Giggle
What am I up to?
LOL
Entertainment Lobster
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 20:53:40 -0700
From: "Ed Jason" <lobATnospamlineone.net>
To: "Harsha1MTM" <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com>, <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Directions for those going the other way
Message-Id: <199804242115.WAA29841ATnospamboober.lineone.net>
> Dear Ed,
> You can really really write pal! Have you thought about a career
> as a speech writer for "gurus" claiming to be enlightened. There may be some
> serious money in it for you. Can you afford him Jerry!
Thanks.
I do offer this service. Here are some copyrighted ge(r)ms that you may recognise:
"I am the Way, the Truth, and a laff (laugh)"
"If you have teeth
Go eat an apple"
"When the Master is ready . . .
the disciple dissapears"
"Let him who is without sin
. . . Get a life"
I also offer shaktiput to Gurus with a mallet and a holy tomatoe. Many are the red faced Gunus who admit that their attainment is totally dependent on my sacred mallet. I also open chakras with a crowbar (jemmy) and a tin opener for the minor chakras. I have also taught myself nothing. Many people have told me that I "know Nothing" - but I do not like to boast (I am very humble).
I am available for weddings and can be profound in most popular settings.
Lobster (spamming)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 15:47:59 -0600 (CST)
From: hall12cATnospamMEENA.CC.UREGINA.CA
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: an introduction
Message-id: <Pine.PMDF.3.95.980424153759.690799217A-100000ATnospammeena.cc.uregina.ca>
Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
hello out there,
i just struggled through about 50 messages from this list, wow,
thats a whole lotta reading. some good stuff though. so, here's the
skinny:
i was introduced to kundalini about two years ago while i was
reseaching for paper on Buddhist Tantra. instant excitement. i knew that
i had stumbled across something good. i don't think i know what exactly
constitutes a kundalini experience. could somebody give me some
characteristics to look for? i have had some satori-like experience, is
it similar? loss of subject-object consciousness, feeling of animism or
pantheism, the cosmic consciousness of buzzing flies and whipping willow
branches singing mantras?
anybody out there got patience for helping me along. i am anxious
to grow and learn. COLIN
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 15:03:02 -0700 (PDT)
From: Rik <rik_wATnospamrocketmail.com>
To: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Cc: rik_wATnospamrocketmail.com
Subject: Re: Pleasure (and an enlightenment trait!)
Message-ID: <19980424220302.25679.rocketmailATnospamweb2.rocketmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
---amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us wrote:
> The facilitator was very good at showing me the error of my thinking
> without making me feel like I am a worthless human being. Quite a
> skill. THERE, there is an example of an enlightened trait!
Yes, definitely an admirable communication skill possessed by many
even without enlightenment! :) On the other hand there do come
times when a student's inflamed ego proudly cries out
" ** PROVE that my understanding is not indeed Godly! **",
in which case what can one do but grant his request? :)
Best wishes to you -rik
_________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?
Get your free ATnospamyahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
DISCLAIMER!
Home | Archive Index | Search the archives | Subscribe
K. List FAQ | Kundalini FAQs | Signs and Symptoms | Awakening Experiences | K. list Polls | Member Essays | Meditations | List Topics | Art Gallery | Cybrary | Sitemap | Email the moderators.
symbol.