1998/04/13 23:15
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #293
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 293
Today's Topics:
RE: kundalini questions [ "Roberto Gonzales del Valle" <93035 ]
Re: kundalini questions [ Harsh Luthar <hlutharATnospambryant.edu> ]
Re: kundalini questions [ "Mark A. Collins" <themacmanATnospammacsru ]
RE: kundalini questions [ Kurt Keutzer <keutzerATnospameecs.berkeley ]
RE: kundalini questions [ "Joseph Miller" <joemillerATnospamhotmail. ]
Re: kundalini questions [ Harsh Luthar <hlutharATnospambryant.edu> ]
kundalini questions [ Diana <fluoritATnospamalgonet.se> ]
K attack ---> K harassment --> K shi [ b bah <happyhunaATnospamyahoo.com> ]
Re: Adrian [ Pat Williams <pwilliamATnospaminfocom.com> ]
Love is the Answer [ amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us ]
List [ GEMINI <drf140ATnospamemail.psu.edu> ]
Re: List [ "Mark A. Collins" <themacmanATnospammacsru ]
Re: kundalini questions [ anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities. ]
Re: Love is the Answer [ Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com> ]
Kundalini Answers [ Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com> ]
RE: List [ "Roberto Gonzales del Valle" <93035 ]
RE: Love is the Answer [ "Roberto Gonzales del Valle" <93035 ]
Re: I Am That [ "Sandeep Chatterjee" <sandeepcATnospambom3 ]
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 11:55:23 -0600
From: "Roberto Gonzales del Valle" <930359ATnospamaloe.ulima.edu.pe>
To: "Joseph Miller" <joemillerATnospamhotmail.com>
Cc: "Kundalini List" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: RE: kundalini questions
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Hi Joseph, Kurt and list members following this strain:
>Kurt,
>
>I didn't know what it was that was special about me until a psychic good
>friend told me he could see K up at 3rd chakra and then a Kundalini
>Master explained it to me (I'm usually not one to rely on one source,
>that helps explain my history on this list of relying on the ancients
>and ancient texts rather than more recent info). How any of the people
>who haven't had this kind of confirmation can be sure they have an
>awakening is what I find curious.
>
>Please, no one should take that last sentence as a belittlement or a
>slight, I just don't understand it. I accept what they say about
>themselves, it just seems odd to me to be so sure without confirmation.
Oh, don´t worry. You just know. I don´t know many (or maybe any) of the K
terminology, being that I an relatively new to the list and live in a place
where no books or guides can be found. But one just knows. It is like
everytime I asked for the meaning of a term I found great explanations of
things already happening to me. The last one was the fully awareness that we
are not this body (not by dogma but experience) by loosing it´s concience
but no THE concience. So you, list members are of great guidance to me and I
thank life for having me here with you.
>
>Being awake at birth is not unheard of, my original post mentioned a
>meeting with 5 others like me, all who live within a 30 mile radius.
>Great saints often have this, though they are usually lucky enough that
>K takes Susumna or other appropriate route, in me it took Vajra nadi.
Could you please explain? I don´t know those words either. Susumna and Vajra
nada, what is the difference? I guess Susumna is the (difficult) path "the
road least taken" Robert Frost talked about. And Vajra nadi, well the other
road. But could you please give a better explanation?
>As a young child I would "dream the future" (my term for it).
Has anyone seen, for instance, flashes of future situations while in a
familiar place? Time and space are really relative, aren´t they.
>I could do other things, read cards by putting my hands on the back when
>they were lying face down, and things like that. Whether I can do that
>now, I don't know, I haven't tried in years. There were other symptoms,
>last month I posted about my experience with lights, but all would fall
>into the basket usually labeled "Psychic" and this post is long enough
>already.
>
>As to what I am experiencing now... It isn't related to the topic of
>when I was awakened or the experience in awakening. It is related to my
>finding someone to tell me how to "fix" the K (get it into the correct
>nadi/channel) etc., to my efforts in following that instruction and
>developing K, and to great good fortune (much or most of which is based
>on what I did in a past life).
I really hope you will. Remember patience and It will be fine. Love to all
Roberto
Lima, Peru.
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 14:06:06 -0400
From: Harsh Luthar <hlutharATnospambryant.edu>
To: Joseph Miller <joemillerATnospamhotmail.com>
CC: Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: kundalini questions
Message-ID: <3532540E.B151D954ATnospambryant.edu>
Joseph Miller wrote:
> Harasha,
>
> Referring to your message
>
> >Harsha: Hi Joe. Awakening of the Kundalini Shakti in meditation leads
> to an
> >immediate loss of body consciousness (but not consciousness). It is
> quite
> >dramatic. There is no mistaking it.
> >
>
> I think you may be generalizing a personal experience to the world and
> it is not necessarily valid. What you say can be true but is not
> universally true for all people with awakenings. If you were talking
> about Samadi I'd agree, but for most people it is years from awakening K
> until Samadi.
>
Harsha: Yes, I was talking about Samadhi. There are many different types.
The nature of the Samadhi depends on the particular manifestation of the
Shakti.
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 12:07:28 -0700
From: "Mark A. Collins" <themacmanATnospammacsrule.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: kundalini questions
Message-ID: <35326270.392CATnospammacsrule.com>
I've recieved flashes of the future ever since I was young. However,
when I was young, I just didn't recognize it. My identical twin brother
has also had the same flashes.
List of prequa vu (sp?):
Spring before 4th grade: I had a dream that me and my twin Jason would
be separated against our will. Summer before 4th grade, I moved in with
our Mom, who lived in Leander, TX, and Jason stayed with our Dad, who
lived in Fayetteville, AR. This was the first time we've ever been
apart. I came to AR in 5th grade, he went to TX in 6th grade, and then
we went to 7th-12th together in AR and didn't separate until two weeks
ago when I moved back to TX with Mom. I'm currently 21.
Seventh grade: Me and Jason were helping some friends (David & Mary
Sturdevant) around their place near the Mulberry River. This place was
in the middle of nowhere. However, as we were helping David put tin on
the roof of his barn, me and Jason "knew" together that this barn would
be gone. The house would be gone. Everything we saw, would be gone. The
trees would be bent backwards, with no leaves. However, they would have
a new house, further back on the hill. They would have a much bigger
workshop, children's craft center, and their house would be very
elegant, with fine china displays. Two years ago, while the Sturdevants
were on vacation in Mexico, a tornato destroyed everything except their
RV. Then, they suddenly came home, and happened to miss some major
flooding that killed a dozen people. I have not been back out to their
place since, but I know that I saw it when I was young.
The rest that I remember are computer related. Mostly predictions about
Apple. I knew that as soon as Apple announced that it would be using the
new PowerPC chip codeveloped by Apple, IBM, and Motorola, that Macs
would be twice as fast as PCs. Today, this is definitely the case. I
knew that Macs would continue to grow faster than PCs could. So far,
this has been the case. In eighth grade, I predicted that Apple would
buy NeXT, maker of OpenSTEP, and in the deal, have it's CEO Steven Jobs,
who was a co-founder of Apple, return to Apple. Steven would eventually
take over, and point Apple in the right direction. And it happened just
that way.
The little intuitions we get when we're just kids are very powerful,
however, adults dismiss them out of hand. Then we think of them as
fantasy. I sure did until months after they actually happened. Then I
remembered that I foresaw that even.
Jason, my twin, forsaw the falling of the Berlin Wall, the breakup of
the U.S.S.R., and the economic growth of China.
Mark Anthony Collins
"The MAC Man"
themacmanATnospammacsrule.com
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 11:20:13 -0700
From: Kurt Keutzer <keutzerATnospameecs.berkeley.edu>
To: "'Harsha1MTM'" <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com>,
"joemillerATnospamhotmail.com"
<joemillerATnospamhotmail.com>,
"kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com"
<kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Cc: "margolisATnospamtransbay.net" <margolisATnospamtransbay.net>
Subject: RE: kundalini questions
Message-ID: <01BD66CE.215DBF50.keutzerATnospameecs.berkeley.edu>
In a message dated 4/12/1998 11:52:27 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
joemillerATnospamhotmail.com writes:
<< How any of the people
who haven't had this kind of confirmation can be sure they have an
awakening is what I find curious. >>
Harsha: Hi Joe. Awakening of the Kundalini Shakti in meditation leads to
an
immediate loss of body consciousness (but not consciousness).
KK: Yes, but so would a cerebral hemorrhage. Speaking of which - there was
a Swami who lived in America for quite some time. Late in his life he
suffered a massive stroke which left him with only a portion of his
physical and mental faculties. His response, surprisingly, was that he had
finally achieved the state of samadhi he had always longed for. This
further undermined my confidence in the correlation between ``higher states
of consciousness'' and genius.
Harsha:
It is quite
dramatic. There is no mistaking it.
KK: Even Swami Muktananda, after 25 years of wandering as a yogi, mistook
it.
Don't mean to be especially argumentative - but I think there are a few
different issues
One is just comfort. . if someone faces ``trials'' (as I believe St.
Theresa called them) then the affirmation of a guru can have a great power.
Even after over 20 years of experience with kundalini, meeting many
masters, and reading literally 100's of books - nothing set my mind to rest
like a few simple, sincere words from Swami Shivom Tirth. But I think that
speaks more to my own lack of confidence than in the ultimate necessity of
the confirmation. I think many people can have kundalini experiences
without feeling the need for confirmation.
Another is ``certification'' of teachers... I think there are many
experiences which ARE self affirming. But there are also a number of people
here in Berkeley on Telegraph avenue who will be happy to tell you about
their profound experiences if you'll buy them a cup of coffee (or better
yet, a beer). Then there are the Bubba Free John's of the world- he doesn't
have much doubt about what he's experiencing either. But I guess that's his
business, unless you become his student - then it's your business too. I
don't think that it's necessary that everyone who teaches is ``certified''
by prior masters for example - but I don't think there's anything unnatural
about asking about the ``certification'' of someone's realization or
experience. Ultimately of course, what you see is what you get.
Kind Regards,
Kurt
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 11:35:33 PDT
From: "Joseph Miller" <joemillerATnospamhotmail.com>
To: 930359ATnospamaloe.ulima.edu.pe
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: RE: kundalini questions
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Joe wrote:
>>Being awake at birth is not unheard of, my original post mentioned a
>>meeting with 5 others like me, all who live within a 30 mile radius.
>>Great saints often have this, though they are usually lucky enough
that
>>K takes Susumna or other appropriate route, in me it took Vajra nadi.
>
Roberto responded:
>Could you please explain? I don´t know those words either. Susumna and
Vajra
>nada, what is the difference? I guess Susumna is the (difficult) path
"the
>road least taken" Robert Frost talked about. And Vajra nadi, well the
other
>road. But could you please give a better explanation?
Roberto,
In the body there are many nadis (well over 1,000 but for our purposes
most don't matter) they are pathways for energy, Kundalini and prana or
chi. You might think of them as roadways for energy. They run between
two or more chakras (including the many, many minor chakras in the trunk
and limbs of us all). For the purpose of moving K we are only concerned
with several main nadis and chakras in the trunk and head.
What I'll call the "good" nadis (because being on these can lead to
enlightnement or at least to Ajna chakra, the others aren't "bad" but
they can create problems) are all located together and are thought of as
runing up the spine. There are really several nadis together in a form
like a coaxial cable, nested one within another. Susumna is the outer,
largest, and, if one is lucky enough to have K catch a "good" nadi, the
most commonly taken nadi in this group. It only goes to Ajna and then
the student must switch to a more interior nadi to achieve
enlightenment.
Vajra, among several commonly taken nadis, is not a part of this special
subsystem. It too runs through all of the major chakras up through Ajna
(and beyond, but not to the crown) but there are major differences. If K
goes up through a "good" nadi it keeps the path from the root through to
its highest attained chakra open and can travel freely, if it gets to
throat or above it will stay up there. Whereas with Vajra it will always
fall back to the root chakra (even from Ajna), it may not be
controllable (it goes when it wants, not when you need it to go), and K
travels through the chakras on Vajra without "opening" the chakra
(actually,it may or may not open it, through those in the coaxial nadis
it will always open it, sometimes quite dramatically).
Vajra nadi is also called the sexual nadi. It almost always results in
an increased sex drive, an increase desire for sensual pleasures of all
types (food, drink, etc.) besides sex (all relative to what the person
experienced before K was awake and after K is moved into Susumna), and
can, and often does, lead to psychic powers.
That's a quick summation of the two. If you have more questions let me
know, I'll try to answer them if I can.
Namaste,
Joe
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Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 15:01:46 -0400
From: Harsh Luthar <hlutharATnospambryant.edu>
To: "keutzerATnospameecs.berkeley.edu" <keutzerATnospameecs.berkeley.edu>
CC: "'Harsha1MTM'" <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com>,
"joemillerATnospamhotmail.com" <joemillerATnospamhotmail.com>,
"kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>,
"margolisATnospamtransbay.net" <margolisATnospamtransbay.net>
Subject: Re: kundalini questions
Message-ID: <35326119.E4CD546DATnospambryant.edu>
Kurt Keutzer wrote: Snip....snip....
> Ultimately of course, what you see is what you get.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Kurt
Harsha: Ultimately of course, what you see is what you get. What do you see?
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 22:25:38 +0200
From: Diana <fluoritATnospamalgonet.se>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: kundalini questions
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Hi Everybody!
My name is Diana and i recently join this medium of communication.
I have to confess to that im not an expert in the field of experience
the lifeforce kundalini in a literal sense, I just know that the spirit
is present. Im not sure where all this endlightment whitin me comes
from, but my passion for life itself increases. I know that it is only
the beginning of something greater.
In Kundaliniyoga i have had some great experience that are difficult to
explain in words, my english is also limited when it comes to express
myself.
My purpose of joining this medium is to listen (and hopefully
paticipate) and experience more insight from all of you who are whitin
the kundalini, to learn and to understand how to seek and welcome it.
I love to be apart of your experience and knowledge in The Awakening of
Kundalini.
With love.................
Diana Lindstål, Stockholm Sweden
fluoritATnospamalgonet.se
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 13:50:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: b bah <happyhunaATnospamyahoo.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: K attack ---> K harassment --> K shivers --> warm fuzzies
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Firstly, 'must effusively thank our Mystress Angelique for originating
and/or hosting the K list. Thank you from the center of my heart.
Dan,John,Anandajyoti,Joseph, THANK YOU for all the information you
have you have written to others on this list,truly invaluable. After
three years of suffering , tninking my son might be right (if you
hear voices you should see a DOCTOR!!!),hypnotherapists,
psychotherapists, two Kahunas,two Native American Shamans, an
exorcist, approximately 10-12 teachers at
No.1 LOOONNG established Psychic Institute, innumerable questions,and
approx. $6.000, NO ONE at any time mentioned that it might be a K
experience. They never even used the "Kword".I found out about
Kundalini in abook that had a short ref. from one of Krisnamurti's
books where he describes his awakening. WOW! the world's largest light
bulb turned on over my head. Thank you all for all your advice,
(admittedly to other people). You'll probably never know how many you
have helped.Dan I'd like to volunteer for you research. Barb/bbah. '
guess I'm a former "lurker" now. huh??
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Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 18:35:01 -0500 (EST)
From: Pat Williams <pwilliamATnospaminfocom.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Adrian
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Hi Lobster,
Thanks for your reply. Knowing that I have come in on the middle of a
thread, I can only share my thoughts on what little I have read. While
reading your message some thoughts came to mind which I will share, and
I do so from one seeker to another, and from my current understanding.
you wrote:
>>Imagine that all the great mystics of the world have (despite the
difficulties) placed their knowledge and experiences and the methods of
attainment in printed format. People wail that they can not find the Truth.
When you question them you find their supposed looking has been very
superficial. People dedicate their whole life to this search. Not all are
successful.
As to the statement, "not all are successful". I ask how do we know what
is successful for another. We are all learning and growing. What could be
considered success to me (finding my truth), may not be what you would
consider success, or your truth. Having all the knowledge placed befor us,
if we are
not ready the printed format holds only emptiness, if we are ready, the
printed format holds only what we can currently accept. The printed material
being only a tool, the understanding coming from within.
>>What then are you looking for 'K', 'Bliss', 'Wisdom' or 'Truth'? They are
not all the same thing. And nobody is going to do the hard work of finding
'the Truth' for you.
The hard work does not come in finding the truth, but making it a part of
your everyday life, once it is found.
Gentle Peace, Pat
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 18:55:06 -0600
From: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Love is the Answer
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Hi guys!
Sorry for being a bit behind the curve on this one. Went to a Science
Fiction convention last weekend. Yippee! Anyhoo... Thanks Harsha, for
reminding me of this wonderful song. It gives me the chills (and usually
tears, especially if I sing along) everytime I hear it. And thanks Kathy
(Delirium) for remembering it was by Todd Rundgren. Made it easier to look
up the words on the web! (Gotta go buy the CD now!) Here they are for the
interested:
"Love Is The Answer"
Composer: Todd Rundgren
Duration: 3:53
Name your price
A ticket to paradise
I can't stay here any more
And I've looked high and low
I've been from shore to shore to shore
If there's a short cut I'd have found it
But there's no easy way around it
Light of the world, shine on me
Love is the answer
Shine on us all, set us free
Love is the answer
Who knows why
Someday we all must die
We're all homeless boys and girls
And we are never heard
It's such a lonely world
People turn their heads and walk on by
Tell me, is it worth just another try?
Tell me, are we alive, or just a dying planet?
What are the chances?
Ask the man in your heart for the answers
And when you feel afraid, love one another
When you've lost your way, love one another
When you're all alone, love one another
When you're far from home, love one another
When you're down and out, love one another
All your hope's run out, love one another
When you need a friend, love one another
When you're near the end, love one another
We got to love one another
Light of the world, you got to shine
Love will be a means, yeah, yeah
Shine on us all
Know that love can save the day
Just give it one more chance
Lord you just can't let it stop Lord
Love is the answer
Got to be free to let love into your life
Let it shine
http://www.roadkill.com/todd/lyrics/Song.44.6
still here,
amckeon
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 21:07:51 -0400
From: GEMINI <drf140ATnospamemail.psu.edu>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: List
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19980413210751.49576c72ATnospamemail.psu.edu>
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Hi there, sorry to bother all again but I just wanted to know if someone
could give me the info again on how to get taken off of the list, as it
seems what I have tried has not worked.
Thanks a bunch...:o)
Diane aka GEMINI
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 19:08:02 -0700
From: "Mark A. Collins" <themacmanATnospammacsrule.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: List
Message-ID: <3532C502.731DATnospammacsrule.com>
I was wondering, I forgot who maintains this list...
But I've seen some lists that automatically appends text to the end of
each item that goes through the list...
This could be used to help people unsubscribe to the list easier...
----------------------------------------------
Kundalini-L List
To unsubscribe, send email to <thisaddressATnospamdomain.com> with subject
containing "unsubscribe kundalini-l"
or something to that effect...
Just an idea...
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 18:14:02 -0700
From: anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities.com>
To: fluoritATnospamalgonet.se
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: kundalini questions
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Hello Diana!
Welcome to the list and share as we all share. There is nothing to lose.
You would find a paper on Kundalini by Harsha, Kurt Kurtzer Kunadlini FAQ
and on my web page, I , have an article on Kundalini also.
Anandajyoti
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/6782
Diana wrote:
> Hi Everybody!
>
> My name is Diana and i recently join this medium of communication.
>
> I have to confess to that im not an expert in the field of experience
> the lifeforce kundalini in a literal sense, I just know that the spirit
> is present. Im not sure where all this endlightment whitin me comes
> from, but my passion for life itself increases. I know that it is only
> the beginning of something greater.
>
> In Kundaliniyoga i have had some great experience that are difficult to
> explain in words, my english is also limited when it comes to express
> myself.
>
> My purpose of joining this medium is to listen (and hopefully
> paticipate) and experience more insight from all of you who are whitin
> the kundalini, to learn and to understand how to seek and welcome it.
>
> I love to be apart of your experience and knowledge in The Awakening of
> Kundalini.
>
> With love.................
>
> Diana Lindstål, Stockholm Sweden
> fluoritATnospamalgonet.se
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 22:17:45 EDT
From: Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com>
To: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Love is the Answer
Message-ID: <b5085618.3532c74bATnospamaol.com>
In a message dated 4/13/1998 5:52:18 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us writes:
<< Hi guys!
Sorry for being a bit behind the curve on this one. Went to a Science
Fiction convention last weekend. Yippee! Anyhoo... Thanks Harsha, for
reminding me of this wonderful song. It gives me the chills (and usually
tears, especially if I sing along) everytime I hear it. And thanks Kathy
(Delirium) for remembering it was by Todd Rundgren. Made it easier to look
up the words on the web! (Gotta go buy the CD now!) Here they are for the
interested:
"Love Is The Answer"
Composer: Todd Rundgren
Duration: 3:53
Name your price
A ticket to paradise
I can't stay here any more
And I've looked high and low
I've been from shore to shore to shore
If there's a short cut I'd have found it
But there's no easy way around it
Light of the world, shine on me
Love is the answer
Shine on us all, set us free
Love is the answer
>>
Harsha: Thank you Amckeon. That was the song I was talking about. Those four
lines are enough to transport any Bhakti Yogi into Bhava Samadhi. You are
obviously a Bhakta if the lyrics make you cry. Welcome to the Bhakti Club!
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 22:47:56 EDT
From: Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com>
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Subject: Kundalini Answers
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Hello Harsha, i've put your poems at:
http://www.telebyte.nl/~frans/kundalini/poetry.html
They made me feel young again!
Harsha: Thanks Frans. These are Shakti poems and the Shakti being ever
youthful and ever playful has that effect. Be well and in peace. I am giving
the URL of my Kundalini paper on your web site below as some people have asked
for it again.
The Spiritual Experience and the Awakening of
>Kundalini Shakti in Tantra Yoga
>http://www.telebyte.nl/~frans/kundalini/harsh.html
>
The paper is based on my experiences and gives important cautions about
pranayama, meditation and tantric practices. It is in plain English and
complicated Sanskrit terms are mostly avoided. While beginners find the paper
informative, if carefully read, it holds great value for advanced
practitioners. Familiarity with basic concepts of Kundalini Yoga (Nadis,
Chakras, Sushmana, prana, apana, bandhas, mudras, Bhastrika, Nauli, etc.) is
assumed.
Best wishes to all. Harsha
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 22:29:59 -0600
From: "Roberto Gonzales del Valle" <930359ATnospamaloe.ulima.edu.pe>
To: "GEMINI" <drf140ATnospamemail.psu.edu>
Subject: RE: List
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Gemini:
This has worked for me when I wnated to change recieving adresses:
Go to the Kundalini Resources page. You can get there by typing Kundalini on
any major browser such as Yahoo and Altavista. Once you get there you will
find, on the second parragraph, not in a button but in blueprint "mailing
list" it is almost by the end of the second parragraph. Click there, wait,
click on the Unsubscribe option, wait and then give your name and e-mail
adress as asked.
If you succed: Hasta la vista baby and be well :-)
If you don´t succed: See you around.
Love,
Roberto
Lima, Peru.
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 22:33:40 -0600
From: "Roberto Gonzales del Valle" <930359ATnospamaloe.ulima.edu.pe>
To: "Kundalini List" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: RE: Love is the Answer
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There is a song by John Lennon: "Mind Games" (1973, album title also) I
haven´t got the full lyrics in mind but it is something like:
"Love is the answer, and you know that for sure
Love is a flower, you gotta let it, gotta let it grow...
Let´s keep on playing those mind games forever
Doing the ritual under the Sun
Chanting the mantra:
´Peace on Earth´
Love is a river, you gotta let it, gotta let it flow
Love is surrender...
Love
Love
Love..."
John Lennon.
Love to you all, forever.
Roberto.
Lima, Peru.
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 11:06:07 +0530
From: "Sandeep Chatterjee" <sandeepcATnospambom3.vsnl.net.in>
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Subject: Re: I Am That
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Hello Jerry,
>Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj:
>
>"On a deeper level my experience is your experience. Dive deep within
>yourself and you will find it easily and simply. Go in the direction of
>'I am'."
>
>"Give up all questions except one: 'Who am I'? After all, the only fact
>you are sure of is that you are. The 'I am' is certain. The 'I am this'
>is not. Struggle to find out what you are in reality."
Great question.
The problem or the issue is does it have an answer, atleast an answer which
can be confined within boundaries of "words". I wonder.
If not, asking or posing this question will not mean much.
However if the same could be a quest hence a quality of being, a quality of
living in quest then ...................
It would be interesting to know where are you Jerry on this question or
quest?
In zikr
Sandeep
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