1998/04/09 12:57
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #282
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 282
Today's Topics:
RE: All about kundalini - by AC-DC(t [ "Roberto Gonzales del Valle" <93035 ]
Re: a poem/talking to oneself [ lorianna <loriannaATnospamintrlink.com> ]
Re: a poem/talking to oneself [ lorianna <loriannaATnospamintrlink.com> ]
Re: Casting Call! [ "Orea de Sa' Hana" <oreaATnospamerols.com> ]
Re: Introduction/test [ lorianna <loriannaATnospamintrlink.com> ]
Signature URLs [ "Sharon Webb" <shawebbATnospamyhc.edu> ]
Re: swamy/let there be light [ Harsh Luthar <hlutharATnospambryant.edu> ]
Re: swamy/let there be light [ Danijel Turina <sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.te ]
Re: swamy/let there be light [ Harsh Luthar <hlutharATnospambryant.edu> ]
Re: love lyrics...stray dogs, et al [ Kathy <deliriumATnospamfull-moon.com> ]
k & friends [ melintonATnospamalison.sbc.edu ]
Re: Casting Call! [ Jerry Katz <umbadaATnospamns.sympatico.ca> ]
RE: a poem/talking to oneself [ "CONCETTA M. CURTIS" <CONCETTA.M.CU ]
Re: Casting Call! [ Jerry Katz <umbadaATnospamns.sympatico.ca> ]
Re: Sufi [ Jerry Katz <umbadaATnospamns.sympatico.ca> ]
RE: Introduction/test [ "CONCETTA M. CURTIS" <CONCETTA.M.CU ]
RE: Signature URLs [ "CONCETTA M. CURTIS" <CONCETTA.M.CU ]
RE: swamy/let there be light [ "CONCETTA M. CURTIS" <CONCETTA.M.CU ]
Re: Sufi [ "Mark A. Collins" <themacmanATnospamearthl ]
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 08:54:56 -0600
From: "Roberto Gonzales del Valle" <930359ATnospamaloe.ulima.edu.pe>
To: "John Halonen" <halonenATnospamflash.net>
Cc: "Kundalini List" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: RE: All about kundalini - by AC-DC(the rock band)
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All about Heroin by ACDC:
Hi John, I have read a lot about drugs having been that I used lots of them
for a long time when I was younger (heroin -thank god/ess- is unavailable in
Peru exept for labs).
>Soul Stripper
>
>Well I met her, in the garden,
>Underneath that old apple tree.
>Sitting with her hair full of flowers.
>Looking as cool as can be.
>We talked away a couple of hours,
>Then she laid her head on my lap,
>Ooh, I thought, "I got to be dreamin'"
>I didn't know I fell in her trap.
Trap, Is K a trap?
>
>She was a soul stripper,
>She took my heart.
>Soul stripper,
>She tore me apart.
>
>She started moving nice and easy,
Yes they say it does in the beginning everything is great and then you get
blown off and physically or psychologicaly addicted
>Slowly getting in my spine.
Yes, they get those wonderful fellings...
>Killing off these nice little feelings.
>Ooh, everyone she could find.
>And when she had me Hollow and naked,
K never leaves you hollow or naked it fills you with blessings, love and
energy, so much energy that you have to let it go, and it is alright to let
it go, that is the purpose to get you as a vehicle for the communication
between earth and skies (sort of speak)
>That's when she pushed me on down.
>Pulled out a knife and flashed it before me,
>Stuck it in and turned it around.
>
>She was a, soul stripper.
>She took my heart.
>Soul Stripper,
>She tore me apart.
>
>
>Thought this was intereseting, coming from the band AC-DC. :-)
Yes I always find those songs interesting. Lyrics can be interpreted as many
ways as people hearing them, but there are always key words. Ectstatic
feelings can be obtained in countless ways, some -drugs- give them to you
for a little while and then leave you Hollow, naked and pushed down. I got
nothing against naked but the other ones I´d rather live without. K and
other forms of union give you the whole thing aswell but it is progressive
and forever. Not leaving empty -eyeless- and depressed. But it is a process
a long trip...
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 10:08:52 -0400
From: lorianna <loriannaATnospamintrlink.com>
To: LHodges942 <LHodges942ATnospamaol.com>, Kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: a poem/talking to oneself
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Hello K_List :}
Personally, i talk out loud to myself because i am a writer and it helps me
act out scenes in whatever i am writing. Plus it helps me to concentrate
on what i am doing and to remind myself of important things. I must admit
tho..sometimes i even curse myself for something silly i may have done. I
think it is just good therapy at times.
Love and Light
Lorianna
At 10:54 AM 4/7/98 EDT, LHodges942 wrote:
>In a message dated 98-04-07 09:45:23 EDT, hbarrettATnospamix.netcom.com (Holly N.
>Barrett, Ph.D.) wrote:
>
><< David asked why we talk to ourselves. I think it is to protect
> ourselves and to keep ourselves company >>
>
>Leona here:
>My observation of talking to ourselves is because of too much confusion in
the
>mind, and talking out loud is the only way some people can stay concentrated
>on the subject they wish to think about. They have to think outloud in order
>to hear themselves think.
>
>May be wrong, but it's been my observation.
>
>Leona
>
>
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 10:12:00 -0400
From: lorianna <loriannaATnospamintrlink.com>
To: hbarrettATnospamix.netcom.com (Holly N. Barrett, Ph.D.),
LHodges942 <LHodges942ATnospamaol.com>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: a poem/talking to oneself
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A Yet it is so hard to imagine
>(till we get a taste of the Divine) that we can live without this
>voice! Holly
>
>
Lorianna here:
Oh i dont think i would ever want to do without the voice in my head. I
should say voices since i have many...i call them my muses...and if getting
a taste of the divine (which in my own way i know i have) means my voices
will go away...well then i hope i never get a taste of the divine you are
talking abou6t Holly...for if i do..my career as a writer will surely end.
Love and Light
Lorianna
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 11:10:24 -0400
From: "Orea de Sa' Hana" <oreaATnospamerols.com>
To: kl List <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Casting Call!
Message-ID: <352CE4E2.348FF4F6ATnospamerols.com>
Well, then, as I go out the door, can I be Toto?!
Orea
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 11:16:29 -0400
From: lorianna <loriannaATnospamintrlink.com>
To: tompatterson28ATnospamjuno.com (Tom Patterson), kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Cc: tompatterson28ATnospamjuno.com
Subject: Re: Introduction/test
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Tom :}
Welcome to the list...seems like you did it ok to me..or else i wuldnt be
writing to you know..
Love and light...
Lorianna
At 04:27 PM 4/8/98 EDT, Tom Patterson wrote:
>Hello all kundalini list,
>
>This is a short introduction and also a test of how to use this list.
>
>I AM------but my body/ego's name is Tom Patterson and I (or, "it" maybe
>from a mystical point of view which can get rather boring) live in
>Phoenix, Arizona where I have earned money for the past 20 some years
>selling and servicing insurance. (Mostly auto insurance). My wife of 30
>years, my three grown kids and I have been very successful at spending a
>little more money than what has been earned so I guess that makes me a
>card carrying member of the great American dream.
>
>I have experienced what I now would call Kundalini energy since I was a
>kid. It scarred me as a child but know it is a most wonderful and
>welcome feeling that leaves me "brain washed" in a good clean way.
>
>Hello everyone! Glad to be on the list and I have been enjoying the
>posts for about a week. I am looking forward to creating cyber friends
>via this list.
>
>Tom Patterson
>
>P.S. If this is not the proper way to post, please advise.
>
>_____
>You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail.
>Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com
>Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]
>
>
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 11:20:02 -0400
From: "Sharon Webb" <shawebbATnospamyhc.edu>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Signature URLs
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Angelique wrote:
>>With regard to clickable links: URLs that are posted in full with two
spaces on either side are "clickable" in many email editors. If you double
click on the URL, it will automatically bring up the web browser and go
there. Very convenient.
The error I see most folks making is forgetting to add two spaces after
the URL at the end of a sentence, particularly in the signature. (Eh,
Sharon? :)>>
How's this? :-)
Sharon, properly admonished....
shawebbATnospamyhc.edu
A new fractal gallery and screensaver was posted to this site, 4/3/98:
http://www.fractalus.com/sharon/
USA Today Hot Site; Cosmic Site of the Night: Cool Central Site of the Day;
ENC Digital Dozen; Enchantment Award; ArtSearch Featured Site;
NetTech NeatTech: Web Best ; Eye Candy Award; Studyweb Featured Site;
Lotus Light Award; Wave of the Day; Hot Site Award; Critical Mass Award;
Best of the Planet People's Choice Award, 1998
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 11:35:16 -0400
From: Harsh Luthar <hlutharATnospambryant.edu>
To: Gloria Lee <samyanaATnospamhotmail.com>
CC: sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.tel.hr, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: swamy/let there be light
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Gloria Lee wrote:
> >Just "WHO" has the windex??? Enquiring minds want to know...LOL
Harsha: I came across the following conversation with Ramana Maharshi in
which he gives some advice on Yoga and Jnana.
Devotee: Can this path of enquiry be followed by all aspirants?
Maharshi: This is suitable only for ripe souls. The rest should follow
different methods according to the state of their minds.
Devotee: What are the other methods?
Maharshi: They are stuti, japa, dhyana, yoga, jnana, etc.
Stuti is singing the praises of the Lord with a feeling of great devotion.
Yoga. The source of breath is the same as that of the mind, therefore the
subsidence of either leads to that of the other. The practice of stilling
the mind through breath control is called yoga.
Fixing the mind on psychic centers such as the sahasrara (lit. the thousand
petalled lotus) yogis can remain any length of time without awareness of
their bodies. As long as this state continues they appear to be immersed in
some kind of joy. But when the mind emerges (becomes active again) it
resumes its worldly thoughts. It is therefore necessary to train it with
the help of practice like dhyana whenever it becomes externalized. It will
then attain a state in which there is neither subsidence nor emergence.
Jnana is stilling the mind and realizing the Self through the constant
practice of dhyana or enquiry (vichara). The extinction of the mind is the
state in which there is cessation of all efforts. Those who are established
in the spontaneous effortless state have realized their true nature, the
Self. The term 'silence' (mouna) and inaction refer to this state alone.
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 17:47:44 +0200
From: Danijel Turina <sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.tel.hr>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: swamy/let there be light
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At 11:35 1998.04.09 -0400, you wrote:
>Gloria Lee wrote:
>
>> >Just "WHO" has the windex??? Enquiring minds want to know...LOL
>
>Harsha: I came across the following conversation with Ramana Maharshi in
>which he gives some advice on Yoga and Jnana.
>
>Devotee: Can this path of enquiry be followed by all aspirants?
>
> Maharshi: This is suitable only for ripe souls. The rest should follow
>different methods according to the state of their minds.
>
> Devotee: What are the other methods?
>
> Maharshi: They are stuti, japa, dhyana, yoga, jnana, etc.
>
> Stuti is singing the praises of the Lord with a feeling of great devotion.
>
>Yoga. The source of breath is the same as that of the mind, therefore the
>subsidence of either leads to that of the other. The practice of stilling
>the mind through breath control is called yoga.
>
> Fixing the mind on psychic centers such as the sahasrara (lit. the thousand
>petalled lotus) yogis can remain any length of time without awareness of
>their bodies. As long as this state continues they appear to be immersed in
>some kind of joy. But when the mind emerges (becomes active again) it
>resumes its worldly thoughts. It is therefore necessary to train it with
>the help of practice like dhyana whenever it becomes externalized. It will
>then attain a state in which there is neither subsidence nor emergence.
>
> Jnana is stilling the mind and realizing the Self through the constant
>practice of dhyana or enquiry (vichara). The extinction of the mind is the
>state in which there is cessation of all efforts. Those who are established
>in the spontaneous effortless state have realized their true nature, the
>Self. The term 'silence' (mouna) and inaction refer to this state alone.
Well, actually, it seems to me that the question wasn't how to get yourself
Self-realized (meaning nirvikalpa samadhi), but how to express that fully.
Otherwise, it isn't much good - you go back to your unrefined body with not
much of an ability to express the Self. I think the point is in cleaning
the vehicles of expression (different bodies for different planes) or your
self realization won't be of much use in the relative. :) I would even say
that it may become an obstacle to further growth, since one may use it to
escape the problems in daily life. That is the use of yoga - purification,
until inner and outer realities are one. Until there is no difference
between samsara and nirvana. Where there is only nirvana, and nothing to go
back to - no impure body awaiting in the relative.
There is a windex, yes. :))
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Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 12:25:30 -0400
From: Harsh Luthar <hlutharATnospambryant.edu>
To: Danijel Turina <sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.tel.hr>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: swamy/let there be light
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Danijel Turina wrote:
> That is the use of yoga - purification,
> until inner and outer realities are one. Until there is no difference
> between samsara and nirvana. Where there is only nirvana, and nothing to go
> back to - no impure body awaiting in the relative.
>
Harsha: Quite right. That is the Self-Realization we speak of. It is not an
escape. What would it be an escape from? All planes of Consciousness exist within
the Self. No Bondage. No Liberation. No Coming. No Going. Pure, Complete, and
Eternal Being.
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 12:43:19 +0100
From: Kathy <deliriumATnospamfull-moon.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: love lyrics...stray dogs, et al
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Harsha asked, and I believe the "love is the answer" lyrics are from a song by Tod
Rundgren.
Same guy who doesn't want to work but just wants to beat on his drum all day...
Hey...another great musical talent obviously (or at least apparently) fired by
active K!
Aero the foundling who you list members helped out last week (now formally named
Aerospud, the amazing flying tater dog) is in fine form, he is so full of energy
and he absolutely exudes an excellent vibe. *So* excellent, as a matter of fact,
that my next door neighbor who has been grumpy for a couple years and hasn't
willingly initiated conversation with me in all that time, actually spoke to me
kindly about the little doggy dude yesterday...
So don't any of you on this list tell me animals don't have souls, can't think, or
don't have/manifest/move kundalini energy, or the animal equivalent thereof...we
humans can be arrogant and think we're 'special', and I think sometimes it's
because *we* don't comprehend (or take time to try to comprehend) the language of
the "beasts"...
Ahem...crawling off my soapbox to go back to lurk mode again...
Love to you all...Delirium
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 14:27:06 -0400
From: melintonATnospamalison.sbc.edu
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: k & friends
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>I would like to understand what Kundalini is all about. What are the
>positive and negative effects it has on people who have it? What does one
>need to read to grow spiritually strong? What happens with friendships
>and relationships to those that realiz
>e they have kundalilni experiences?
>
>I appreciate your support.
>
>Sylvia Miner
>
Sylvia--
As far as friendships -- I've begun to be very selective. Some of my former
friends couldn't believe my experiences were real. I think they thought I
was going crazy so that had a very damping effect on the relationship and
we don't see each other any more. They didn't want to hear about the kind
of stuff that happens to me all the time! And the "crazy" stuff was
becoming the focus of my attention -- so they thought I was crazy and
getting worse. It ironic, but my best friends now are deeply committed
Christians who are familiar with the gifts of the spirit.
I'm lucky in that I have a very loving and open-minded, accepting husband.
But I don't discuss these things with my parents and siblings -- I'm pretty
sure they would think I was lying and why bother them with it?
--Liz
The web site you seek
cannot be located but
endless others exist
---- Joy Rothke from Haiku
Error Message competition at Salon
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 00:13:47 -0700
From: Jerry Katz <umbadaATnospamns.sympatico.ca>
To: PEGLUMPKIN <PEGLUMPKINATnospamaol.com>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Casting Call!
Message-ID: <352C752B.2235ATnospamns.sympatico.ca>
PEGLUMPKIN wrote:
>
> In a message dated 98-04-07 23:39:32 EDT, you write:
>
> << But I've seen lately in a few posts (mine included) some reference to
> the movie The Wizard of Oz. >>
>
> Dibs on a flying monkey suit. (Do you have a size 4 petite?)
>
> Peg
It's late and my eyes are playing tricks on me. At first glance I
thought you were asking for a size 4 penis. Anyway, I can accommodate
you either way...
jerry
Date: 09 Apr 1998 15:00:24 -0400
From: "CONCETTA M. CURTIS" <CONCETTA.M.CURTIS-1ATnospamusa.conoco.com>
To: lorianna <loriannaATnospamintrlink.com> (IPM Return requested),
"(Holly N. Barrett, Ph.D.)" <hbarrettATnospamix.netcom.com> (IPM Return requested),
LHodges942 <LHodges942ATnospamaol.com> (IPM Return requested)
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Subject: RE: a poem/talking to oneself
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Sent: Thursday, April 09, 1998 10:52 AM
To: (Holly N. Barrett, Ph.D.); LHodges942
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Subject: Re: a poem/talking to oneself
A Yet it is so hard to imagine >(till we get a taste of the Divine) that
we can live without this >voice! Holly
>
>
Lorianna here:
Oh i dont think i would ever want to do without the voice in my head. I
should say voices since i have many...i call them my muses...and if
getting
a taste of the divine (which in my own way i know i have) means my voices
will go away...well then i hope i never get a taste of the divine you are
talking abou6t Holly...for if i do..my career as a writer will surely
end.
Love and Light
Lorianna
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 15:57:59 -0700
From: Jerry Katz <umbadaATnospamns.sympatico.ca>
To: themacmanATnospamearthlink.net
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Casting Call!
Message-ID: <352C00F7.30E0ATnospamns.sympatico.ca>
Mark A. Collins wrote:
>
> Is there not a part for me?
>
> ;-)
>
> Mark Anthony Collins
> "The MAC Man"
NO! Did you bring me cocaine?
...jk
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 16:12:31 -0700
From: Jerry Katz <umbadaATnospamns.sympatico.ca>
To: lobATnospamlineone.net
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Sufi
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> Lobster:
> Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh (Osho) is not recognised as an authority on Sufism
> either by genuine Sufis or other mature mystics. He is of course quite
> titillating to those who still seek stimulation rather than genuine
> understanding. I rate him as a clown (some of you like clowns - hence
> Lobster :-)
Jerry:
Ed, I understand what you are saying, but Rajneesh has served certain
people.
What is wrong with speaking simply and telling some jokes? Titillation
and stimulation of whatever kind you want, are fine vehicles for
carrying one to Genuine Understanding. Or would you say they are not?
If you don't want anything but genuine understanding, Rajneesh is fine.
As well, I'll bet you five dollars that I could find some "authorities,
mature mystics and genuine Sufis" that have praised Rajneesh. It's a
pretty big world out there.
Date: 09 Apr 1998 15:15:45 -0400
From: "CONCETTA M. CURTIS" <CONCETTA.M.CURTIS-1ATnospamusa.conoco.com>
To: lorianna <loriannaATnospamintrlink.com> (IPM Return requested),
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-----Original Message-----
From: lorianna [SMTP:loriannaATnospamintrlink.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 09, 1998 12:18 PM
To: (Tom Patterson); kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Cc: (Tom Patterson)
Subject: Re: Introduction/test
Tom :}
Welcome to the list...seems like you did it ok to me..or else i wuldnt be
writing to you know..
Love and light...
Lorianna
At 04:27 PM 4/8/98 EDT, Tom Patterson wrote:
>Hello all kundalini list,
>
>This is a short introduction and also a test of how to use this list.
>
>I AM------but my body/ego's name is Tom Patterson and I (or, "it" maybe
>from a mystical point of view which can get rather boring) live in
>Phoenix, Arizona where I have earned money for the past 20 some years
>selling and servicing insurance. (Mostly auto insurance). My wife of 30
>years, my three grown kids and I have been very successful at spending
a
>little more money than what has been earned so I guess that makes me a
>card carrying member of the great American dream.
>
>I have experienced what I now would call Kundalini energy since I was a
>kid. It scarred me as a child but know it is a most wonderful and
>welcome feeling that leaves me "brain washed" in a good clean way.
>
>Hello everyone! Glad to be on the list and I have been enjoying the
>posts for about a week. I am looking forward to creating cyber friends
>via this list.
>
>Tom Patterson
>
>P.S. If this is not the proper way to post, please advise.
>
>_____
>You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail.
>Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com
>Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]
>
>
Date: 09 Apr 1998 15:21:39 -0400
From: "CONCETTA M. CURTIS" <CONCETTA.M.CURTIS-1ATnospamusa.conoco.com>
To: Sharon Webb <shawebbATnospamyhc.edu> (IPM Return requested),
"kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> (IPM Return requested)
Subject: RE: Signature URLs
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-----Original Message-----
From: Sharon Webb [SMTP:shawebbATnospamyhc.edu]
Sent: Thursday, April 09, 1998 12:22 PM
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Signature URLs
Angelique wrote:
>>With regard to clickable links: URLs that are posted in full with two
spaces on either side are "clickable" in many email editors. If you
double
click on the URL, it will automatically bring up the web browser and go
there. Very convenient. The error I see most folks making is forgetting
to add two spaces after
the URL at the end of a sentence, particularly in the signature. (Eh,
Sharon? :)>>
How's this? :-)
Sharon, properly admonished....
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Date: 09 Apr 1998 15:21:35 -0400
From: "CONCETTA M. CURTIS" <CONCETTA.M.CURTIS-1ATnospamusa.conoco.com>
To: Harsh Luthar <hlutharATnospambryant.edu> (IPM Return requested),
Gloria Lee <samyanaATnospamhotmail.com> (IPM Return requested)
cc: "sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.tel.hr" <sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.tel.hr> (IPM Return requested),
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Subject: RE: swamy/let there be light
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-----Original Message-----
From: Harsh Luthar [SMTP:hlutharATnospambryant.edu]
Sent: Thursday, April 09, 1998 12:38 PM
To: Gloria Lee
Cc: sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.tel.hr; kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: swamy/let there be light
Gloria Lee wrote:
> >Just "WHO" has the windex??? Enquiring minds want to know...LOL
Harsha: I came across the following conversation with Ramana Maharshi in
which he gives some advice on Yoga and Jnana.
Devotee: Can this path of enquiry be followed by all aspirants?
Maharshi: This is suitable only for ripe souls. The rest should follow
different methods according to the state of their minds.
Devotee: What are the other methods?
Maharshi: They are stuti, japa, dhyana, yoga, jnana, etc.
Stuti is singing the praises of the Lord with a feeling of great
devotion.
Yoga. The source of breath is the same as that of the mind, therefore the
subsidence of either leads to that of the other. The practice of
stilling
the mind through breath control is called yoga.
Fixing the mind on psychic centers such as the sahasrara (lit. the
thousand
petalled lotus) yogis can remain any length of time without awareness of
their bodies. As long as this state continues they appear to be immersed
in
some kind of joy. But when the mind emerges (becomes active again) it
resumes its worldly thoughts. It is therefore necessary to train it with
the help of practice like dhyana whenever it becomes externalized. It
will
then attain a state in which there is neither subsidence nor emergence.
Jnana is stilling the mind and realizing the Self through the constant
practice of dhyana or enquiry (vichara). The extinction of the mind is
the
state in which there is cessation of all efforts. Those who are
established
in the spontaneous effortless state have realized their true nature, the
Self. The term 'silence' (mouna) and inaction refer to this state alone.
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 13:49:35 -0700
From: "Mark A. Collins" <themacmanATnospamearthlink.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Sufi
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I spent a week at a Sufi camp just north of Albequerque, NM and had some
in-depth discussions about Sufism.
Sufi is not a particular sect or religion, but an essence that is within
all religions. Sufi deals with the removal of blocks to One Awareness by
living a simple lifestyle, working hard, and feeling resistance to
nothing.
Some sufis demonstrate their lack of resitance by mere hard work, others
prove their mastery by doing tasks that are inhuman. These tasks are not
meant to prove to others, for in such attempt the task would certainly
fail. The tasks are meant to prove to the self that it has mastery over
the task.
The gentleman I talked to mentioned some more "advanced" camps outside
the US that have students of a certain degree of mastery thrust a sword
into their stomach with the awareness that they have mastery over the
metal, and thus the sword does not injur them nor leave any mark or
blood.
However, this is an extreme end to sufism, and not necessary to practive
sufism.
Sufi Dances are really cool... The people in my (christian) church do
them all the time, because it helps attain the feeling of oneness and
peace within a group. The energy levels go through the roof when good
leaders lead us through good sufi dances...
Mark Anthony Collins
"The MAC Man"
themacmanATnospammacsrule.com
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