1998/04/07 17:29
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #276
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 276
Today's Topics:
Web Land [ "Ed" <lobATnospamlineone.net> ]
Re: A Community of The Spirit [ "Ed" <lobATnospamlineone.net> ]
talking to oneself [ LHodges942 <LHodges942ATnospamaol.com> ]
Re: talking to oneself [ David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net> ]
Re: screensaver therapy :-) [ "Sharon Webb" <shawebbATnospamyhc.edu> ]
no more forever [ "Ed" <lobATnospamlineone.net> (by way of M ]
Re: swamy [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistres ]
Thoughts As Prayer [ "Mark A. Collins" <themacmanATnospamearthl ]
Thoughts/prayer [ LHodges942 <LHodges942ATnospamaol.com> ]
Re:talking to oneself/and replying.. [ "Gloria Lee" <samyanaATnospamhotmail.com> ]
Re: Enlightenment (One Mo' Time) [ "Orea de Sa' Hana" <oreaATnospamerols.com> ]
Re: swamy [ Danijel Turina <sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.te ]
I'm leaving... [ "Orea de Sa' Hana" <oreaATnospamerols.com> ]
Re: Thoughts/prayer [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
Gloria Lee's Incredible Question! [ Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com> ]
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 09:15:11 -0700
From: "Ed" <lobATnospamlineone.net>
To: "Wanda" <wjewasATnospamhotmail.com>, "Swiszczowski" <JSteveSwATnospamaol.com>,
"Sufi Tariqas" <tariqasATnospamworld.std.com>,
"Kundalini list" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>,
"ken mcfarland SRC" <kenmATnospamOREGON.UOREGON.EDU>,
"Jan Watson" <jan.watsonATnospamsympatico.ca>,
"harish" <hari_patelATnospamlondonelec.co.uk>,
"Gema" <gmanchaATnospamsrvnt1.upco.es>,
"Garden (the)" <thegardenATnospamworld.std.com>,
"Dave" <rhavyATnospamglobalnet.co.uk>,
"Christina Jason" <gbsphcmjATnospamibmmail.com>,
"Anold Lloyd" <a.lloydATnospamnetmatters.co.uk>
Subject: Web Land
Message-Id: <199804071539.QAA10952ATnospamboober.lineone.net>
In about 1852 the United States Government inquired about buying the tribal
lands for the arriving people of the United States. In reply Chief Seattle
wrote:
"The President in Washington sends word that he wishes to buy our land.
But how can you buy or sell the sky? The land? The idea is strange to us.
If
we do not own the freshness of the air and the sparkle of the water, how
can you buy them.
Every part of this earth is sacred to my people. Every shinning pine
needle, every sandy shore, every mist in the dark woods, every meadow,
every humming insect. All are holy in the memory and experience of my
people.
We know the sap which courses through the trees as we know the blood that
courses through our veins. We are part of the earth and it is part of us.
The perfumed flowers are our sisters. The bear, the deer, the great eagle,
these are our brothers. The rocky crests, the juices in the meadow, the
body heat of the pony, and man, all belong to the same family.
The shining water that moves in the streams and rivers is not just water,
but the blood of our ancestors. If we sell you our land, you must remember
that it is sacred. Each ghostly reflection in the clear waters of the
lakes tells of events and memories in the life of my people. The water's
murmur
is the voice of my father's father.
The rivers are our brothers. They quench our thirst. They carry our
canoes and feed our children. So you must give the rivers the kindness you
would
give to any brother.
If we sell you our land, remember that the air is precious to us, that the
air shares its spirit with all the life it supports. The wind that gave
our grandfather his first breath also receives his last sigh. The wind
also
gives our children the spirit of life. So if we sell you our land, you
must keep it apart and sacred, as a place where man can go to taste the
wind
that is sweetened by the meadow flowers.
Will you teach your children what we have taught our children? That the
earth is our mother? What befalls the earth befalls all the sons of the
earth.
This we know: the earth does not belong to man, man belongs to the earth.
All things are connected like the blood that unites us all. Man did not
weave the web of life, he is merely a strand on it. Whatever he does to
the web, he does to himself.
One thing we know: our god is also your god. The earth is precious to him
and to harm the earth is to heap contempt on its creator.
Your destiny is a mystery to us. What will happen when the buffalo are all
slaughtered? The wild horses tamed? What will happen when the secret
corners of the forest are heavy with the scent of many men and the view of
the ripe hills is blotted by talking wires? Where will the thicket be?
Gone! Where will the eagle be? Gone! And what is it to say goodbye to
the swift pony and the hunt? The end of living and the beginning of
survival.
When the last red man has vanished with his wilderness and his memory is
only the shadow of a cloud moving across the prairie, will these shores and
forests still be here? Will there be any of the spirit of my people left?
We love this earth as a newborn loves its mother's heartbeat. So, if we
sell you our land, love it as we have loved it. Care for it as we have
cared for it. Hold in your mind the memory of the land as it is when you
receive it. Preserve the land for all children and love it, as god loves
us all.
As we are part of the land, you too are part of the land. This earth is
precious to us. It is also precious to you. One thing we know: there is
only one god. No man, be he Red Man or White Man, can be apart. We are
brothers after all."
forwarded by Lobster
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 09:26:25 -0700
From: "Ed" <lobATnospamlineone.net>
To: "Jason S. White" <zymphtATnospambluewin.ch>, "Gloria Lee" <samyanaATnospamhotmail.com>,
<kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: A Community of The Spirit
Message-Id: <199804071539.QAA10475ATnospamboober.lineone.net>
> PS. Lobster bites, but he has very sensitive antennae!
I also knit
and do my own tap dancing . . .
Lobster (clickety. . . click . . .)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:24:27 EDT
From: LHodges942 <LHodges942ATnospamaol.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: talking to oneself
Message-ID: <a6388082.352a533cATnospamaol.com>
In a message dated 98-04-07 11:30:27 EDT, you write:
Leona said:
< have to think outloud in order to hear themselves think.>
Holly said:
You're quite right about this. I was referring to the non-stop voice
inside our heads that is useful for planning and learning, but spends
90% of its time thinking thoughts it has already thought -- most of
them judgemental about self and others. Yet it is so hard to imagine
(till we get a taste of the Divine) that we can live without this
voice!
>
Leona now:
Oh, THAT non-stop voice ! Yup, it SEEMS to never stop, and that's a good
estimate of how much time is spent thinking thoughts of yesterday, tomorrow,
what should have been said, what was said, gee, wasn't that profund what I
thought? all ramblings on and on and on.....
YET! Once all thought ceases, YES we can taste the Divine. My experience has
been that: 1) I need to keep busy chattering so I won't experience the
Divine, and: 2)
once I experience the Divine I know my chat mode is worthless, therefore, so
am I and my attempt to be of worth.
Leona
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 12:49:57 -0400
From: David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net>
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: talking to oneself
Message-ID: <352A5935.A208F19CATnospammail.snet.net>
LHodges942 wrote:
> YET! Once all thought ceases, YES we can taste the Divine. My experience has
> been that: 1) I need to keep busy chattering so I won't experience the
> Divine, and: 2)
> once I experience the Divine I know my chat mode is worthless, therefore, so
> am I and my attempt to be of worth.
>From this type of view on an experiential basis it is possibleto use thought to
design the bridge without giving up an experience that
resonates with Divinity...
No one is indicting thought.
That's absurd.
The deeper issue is how we reference ourself to thought.
It's fearful to believe I am my thoughts.
(on an energy level, maybe I am) but certainly not on the form level.
Perhaps fools don't know they identify with thought, when they do.
It might be wise to see...
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:53:45 -0400
From: "Sharon Webb" <shawebbATnospamyhc.edu>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: screensaver therapy :-)
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Roberto,
Perhaps you and Freda should become registered SSTs (Screen Saver
Therapists). :-)
LOL.
We could have a web page. You may have the Peruvian franchise. :-)
Sharon
shawebbATnospamyhc.edu
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-----Original Message-----
From: Roberto Gonzales del Valle <930359ATnospamaloe.ulima.edu.pe>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Date: Tuesday, April 07, 1998 12:32 AM
Subject: RE: screensaver therapy :-)
I got the screen saver and enjoy it very much. Looking forward to the
chackra buzz. The ying/yang thing is great. I watch it and feel the
caos-control trip of life. The little red ball being the unexplainable
circumstance that changes caos to control, that thing that just comes to
you. It just comes to you, no matter how much you look for it. But one has
to keep on looking for it (if not, where´s the fun, I like surprises
though).
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 11:49:57
From: "Ed" <lobATnospamlineone.net> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: no more forever
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A Native American chief said once, "I will fight no more forever."
Lobster (back in to battle)
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 11:38:20
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: Peswani <peswaniATnospamgiaspn01.vsnl.net.in>
Cc: kundalini-l <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: swamy
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At 08:03 PM 4/6/98 +0500, Peswani wrote:
> Diary date..6.4.98
>
>Some two weeks back lobster out of pure compassion towards me prayed on my
>behalf to almighty to get me a guide or Guru, as he might have considered
>that same is required by me. He did this informing me privately on my
>e-mail but not before this k-list. This he did because I refused
>lobester's advice to pray myself. I have never prayed.
Really? Hmmmm... well, I think you have been praying, you just didn't
call it that.. your every thought is a prayer. I don't think we can really
not-pray.. not to discount your experience, but All that Is hears every
thought and word, and you use mantras sometimes, don't you? Are they not
repeated prayer?
I rarely use mantras except those I make up myself.. more bliss, more
peace, more love, more pleasure, more money, more slack....thankyou
Goddess.. but I have conversations with my inner voice and my
multidimensional selves, alla time, about what Is, and what I want and how
I feel and whatever is in the moment or the moment's reflection.
Information being exchanged alla time. I am never alone in my magic.
>
>Naturally I did not take lobster's prayer seriously.
Good! So you did not create defenses against it. Very perfect. Lobster is
a potent critter, no surprise to me you got results.. but the results make
me feel happpy happy happy for you!! Your vibe has a joy of wonder that it
did not have before.. Blessed be!
>
>After five minutes of intense discussion, i was convinced by this
>guide/guru to pray to my "Inner Voice" that Inner voice should guide me in
>my process so that the Univese is benifitted to maximum extent.
Yes yes yes! The inner voice, is all the guru needed I think.. once the
guru has shown up to remind you to listen to it.. heh heh heh.
:)
> 5) My inner voice which has been guiding me since five
>years will also be
> benefitted because it can now carry this semi puified energy from
> throat chakra to crown or higher. My inner voice wants to help me but I
> have to ask for this help. Prayer is actually asking for help.
Yup.. that is the purpose of free will.. it is something to give away in
service to the Divine, to get freedom for All Things back in trade.. LOL!!
Good deal eh?
>
>Earlier Danijel (whose process is almost same as mine) had mentioned that
>he has moved faster from heart to throat to ajna chakra and is now working
>at crown chakra because of his prayer to Satya Sai Baba, thereby drawing
>my attention to importance of pra yer even for my type of process.
Two more potent dudes.. :)
>I have learnt that till I merge in my "Inner Voice", I have to pray to
>Him. Even my inner guru "Inner Voice" has allowed me the freedom of
>choice. This prayer would not have been necessary if I had some Devotion ,
>love or faith for the Inner Voice, but Shahanshah has a big big ego.
Him, Her, It.. if you ask it will likely tell you it is bigger than
genders..
It is interesting, how we don't hear something till we are ready to.. the
list has been speaking of the Heart's alchemy and the still small voice all
along, but you are right it didn't get past your independent ego till it
was ready to listen. :)
I don't think your big ego is a bad thing necessarily.. it depends on
what it gets up to. I see some little scared egos trying to run the world,
runnning around dangerous as rabid rats with no comprehension of the
miraculous.... but when I think of my ego, I think of a big fat lizard with
a bulging belly asleep on a warm rock somewhere with palm trees and the
sound of surf. Too big and safe and fat and contented to do more than open
one eye at disturbances that send smaller egos scurrying for attack or
defense.
I just don't resonate with this "kill the ego" idea. I dunno, seems to me
that an ego is like the president: you can kill it off, but you'll only
need to get another one, and it might not be any better. An ego, like the
president, is a useful thing when it is fulfilling it's proper function.
As long as you can presuade the President that his interests are best
served by going along with the will of the people, leaders ideally being
slaves to the greater good of those they lead, then there is no problem. As
long as they don't get too big for thier britches and think they really Are
in charge, they are good and ueful and can be trusted to work well and be
rewarded with ticker tape parades and re-election.
So, bless your big ego and tell it how wonderful it is to have it as a
big strong slave to your inner voice. That's what I do, when I can find it
among the infinity of monkeys.. which me is the real me? No idea. Gave up
trying to figure it out, it was impossible, and more fun to be All of the
bits at once. Wheee!! Fun to conceptualize it as a giant iguana tho.
Many Blessings, Mystress.
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 13:28:07 -0700
From: "Mark A. Collins" <themacmanATnospamearthlink.net>
To: kundalini-l <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Thoughts As Prayer
Message-ID: <352A8C57.2005ATnospamearthlink.net>
My church as a song that goes:
Our thought are prayers
And we are always praying
Our thoughts are prayers
Listen to what you're saying
Seek a higher consciousness
A state of peacefulness
And know that God is always there
And every thought becomes a prayer
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 16:15:33 EDT
From: LHodges942 <LHodges942ATnospamaol.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Thoughts/prayer
Message-ID: <be4b99ce.352a8967ATnospamaol.com>
In a message dated 98-04-07 14:56:45 EDT, you write:
At 08:03 PM 4/6/98 +0500, Peswani wrote:
> Diary date..6.4.98
>
>Some two weeks back lobster out of pure compassion towards me prayed on my
>behalf <snip> I have never prayed.
Lobster:
Really? Hmmmm... well, I think you have been praying, you just didn't
call it that.. your every thought is a prayer. I don't think we can really
not-pray.. not to discount your experience, >>
Leona
I agree. Every thought is a prayer that will eventually be answered. The
closer one gets to the source of oneself the quicker that thought/prayer will
happen. Sometimes I catch myself thinking negative thoughts and I just stop
and ask myself if that's really what I want to happen. Of course, I say no,
then I reach out mentally to retrieve that thought/prayer and stop it from
gaining enough energy to come back to me. Point: I was waiting for traffic
to pass so I could turn left, and was thinking "I wonder what it would be like
to die right now, right here on his road, right here in his car......" next
thing I knew there was a huge truck barrelling up behind me not noticing that
I'm sitting there stopped waiting to turn.....I screamed "NO NO", and the
truck swerved just as the last minute. POINT TAKEN ! That's why now I catch
myself thinking bad or negative things, like "what will I do if a tornado hits
my house......da ta da ta da...." then catch myself and say "Is that what you
really want, to find out what you'd do?" NO NO !
Every thought is a prayer. IT IS directed to GOD whether you specify that or
not.
Leona
PS BTW, who is Lobster? Is that a screen name? Why? Is that what you
want?:)
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 13:32:01 PDT
From: "Gloria Lee" <samyanaATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, david.bozziATnospamsnet.net
Subject: Re:talking to oneself/and replying..(long)
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Dear David,
You are more fun than a barrel of monkeys!!! We agree more than we
disagree..sorta..but I simply cannot resist teasing you..its as
irresistable as ice cream..I will always champion the underdog, which in
your case appears to be "me defending the (apparent) chaos of everyday
reality here in mundane land*...but you do somewhat appear to
underestimate the value of experiencing life --in favor of what sounds
like (to me, at least) some steady state of awareness you call Truth.
While your advice may be very useful on the path TO Enlightenment..is
there any Afterlife..after Enlightenment??? What good is even
enlightenment experience if it does not lead to Life?? What's the rush
to escape from here, anyway?? Is Nirvana having a going-out-of business
tomorrow sale?? get it now or never?? Just trying to follow some
implications here..not suggesting you actually said this yourself, but
your cryptic remarks ARE this thought-provoking..so you better expect
some follow-up questions to arise. With my contrariness, I may even
argue just for the sake of being difficult.
This does not mean I do not love the way you are, tho. I mean anyone who
writes poems about lost dogs is A-ok in my book. Well, just bear with
me, I am still learning here.
>
>Gloria Lee wrote:
>
>>G) Dunno about you...but I have always been kinda a thrillseeker..you
got
>> something against this?
>
>D)I have nothing against anything. Seekers of any kind could not be at
>peace.(that's fine) I am a peace finder. I also find disruption. But
that
>doesn't last.
>(thank God).
Glo2: Ok, peace is cool, too. finders, seekers, keepers, losers,
weepers..how's that tune go?? Please forgive me, but you are dealing
with a person here who never heard a description of heaven that sounded
better to me than life itself. How can you affirm this peace, without
denying life?? Just what do you DO after you stop seeking...?? whatever
it may be you are seeking...peace, truth, etc.
(besides compose your wonderful poems..:):):) I can hear Jerry asking
for more coleslaw in the background...Harsha is still muttering
something about WHO is seeking...Honestly..I AM trying to sort this
out..while being silly may not help, its some comfort to me to have this
list to talk to..or just think out loud with.
At work this morning I had a chat with a young man who has been in a
wheelchair the past 10 years, since a drunk driver hit his car when he
was only 17. Like most of the people I see at work on a daily basis, its
kinda hard to work enlightenment into the conversation (joking here, but
you see my point?) so maybe I am just being too practical to expect
something very applicable to USE in my daily life...but what do you
recommend in situations like this?? I want some relevance, not escapism.
>>G) Even amidst the chaos, we can always remember
>> the truth simultaneously with the experience which appears to
contradict
>> it..just makes the trip more fun that way.>
>
>D)Truth is not good enough. It needs salt?Let's improve Perfection?
Glo: Again, such a cute point you make here..made the same remark myself
recently about the created world..and the seeming imperfection of our
life experience..the only mistake here may be in our perception that it
does need salt when its perhaps fine as is. Not sure what we are
appearing to disagree about here, David. lets skip this one for now,
ok??
>> D)But since we regard Ourself as someone else it only follows that
>> >this applies to ourself.
>>G)Yep, nice talking to you, too..why stop now??
>
D)>Supposing one was sleeping,The only worthwhile thing to say might be
"Wake
>up!"
Glo: OK, you want to wake me up..fine..give me a reason to get out of
bed..what's for breakfast? what we gonna DO today?? I am not even gonna
ask WHY..just how do you USE this being awake?? ( I've been told I talk
in my sleep, too..LOL)
>>G) Having gotten used to
>> your usual one liners...(in which you manage to condense paragraphs
of
>> wisdom to one sentence)
>
>D)Wisdom? Who said anything about wisdom?
Glo (I did, oh silly one..you wanta tell me I can't find wisdom in your
words..just because they raise more questions than answers for me..
sometimes??>
>>G) but maybe listening to yourself talk is just
>> another way to have awareness..
>
>D)Listening is a way to have awareness.
>
>>G) .why not see it as just another way of
>> getting in tune.
>
D)>Choose to see every manifestation as a way to get in tune.But what's
so
>great about being in tune you say.
>It's empty you say.(which it is not)
>It's boring you say.
>I say you don't know what I refer to.
>(that's because I'm referring to It.)
Glo: Hmm..did I actually say it was boring and empty??
>
G)>> .Silence is wonderful..but I begin to suspect we have
>> over-rated all this silence and emptiness..
>
D>We've over-rated noise. Emptiness? There is certainly nothing to
sayabout
>that.
>
G)>> .the question is more like
>> why the creation of all this so-called dream world of illusion and
>> manifestation in the first place???
>
D)>That's a sucker question designed to divert your attention from a
>realquestion. What do you want? Illusion or Truth?
>You say truth is boring and empty?
>I say you've confused truth for illusion.
>What's more boring than nothing?
>Illusion is nothing.
Glo: Any reasonable person would have given up by now, David..but I
persist..WHY is this world of manifestation considered an illusion ..as
in NOT REAL??? Why is the manifest any less REAL than the unmanifest??
Is this not also a form of duality to suggest such a separation of
realities?? Why is this life nothing??
>
G)>> Why was not the emptiness content to
>> remain silent??
>
D)>Emptiness' is nothing. But if you refer to the Source I say It
isEverything
>(but not a thing).
Glo..ok, I agree..I get this, really I do understand this one statement,
at least. How do you experience being everything??
>
D)>Real Silence is all frequencies unified.
>It's so loud you might think it's forever.
>(But then you might not think at all..)
>Oh that would be terrible, right?
>We might have to actually face Ourself!
>What a nightmare. Who would want to do that?
Glo: I'll just pass on this for now..ok to skip a question??
G)>> but the dream
>> is a happening right here and now, too.
>
>We *think* it's happening but...
>
Glo...some "but" ...
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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 17:06:29 -0400
From: "Orea de Sa' Hana" <oreaATnospamerols.com>
To: lobATnospamlineone.net, kl List <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Enlightenment (One Mo' Time)
Message-ID: <352A9556.9BCAC203ATnospamerols.com>
Lobster asked, "Can we own people, words or land?"
Orea replies, "If so, I get dibs on 'the'. The* royalties on 'the'* will
ensure I never again have to worry about my kids' college tuition!"
Blessings!
*=copyright pending
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 23:18:44 +0200
From: Danijel Turina <sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.tel.hr>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: swamy
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> I don't think your big ego is a bad thing necessarily.. it depends on
>what it gets up to. I see some little scared egos trying to run the world,
>runnning around dangerous as rabid rats with no comprehension of the
>miraculous.... but when I think of my ego, I think of a big fat lizard with
>a bulging belly asleep on a warm rock somewhere with palm trees and the
>sound of surf. Too big and safe and fat and contented to do more than open
>one eye at disturbances that send smaller egos scurrying for attack or
>defense.
:))))) LOL :))))) Cool! :) Yes, worth remembering. :) I think of ego in
terms of the glass board: you have a glass board colored black, and there
are spots that are less colored than the others so the light on the other
side (Self) can shine through. Every spot is one individual ego. Destroy
it? Why? We need to clear it, remove the dirt so the light of Self can
shine freely, clear, white and impeccable. Then the ego is the pure vehicle
of Self. What is the purpouse of it all? I don't know, pure fun of knowing
that the light can be seen, bright and beautiful, on this side of the
curtain, probably. First we realize that we are not spots, but the One
Light, that shines in all of them... and knowing that, we remove the junk
so the light can shine clearly. All of us, brother and sister specks of
light on the glass board... and only One of us. :) And by love, we join our
lights... to know that we were never separate... I love you all. :)
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E-mail : sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.tel.hr
Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/1377
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 17:40:27 -0400
From: "Orea de Sa' Hana" <oreaATnospamerols.com>
To: kl List <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: I'm leaving...
Message-ID: <352A9D4D.97100496ATnospamerols.com>
I'm taking off next week to visit my sister. I'll be unsubscribing for the
time being. At least I'll try to do it right!
You will all be in my thoughts. WHO will be in WHOSE thoughts? Ah, forget
it! Perhaps the appropriate response is WHO CARES?! ;-P
Love,
Orea
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 15:09:16
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: LHodges942 <LHodges942ATnospamaol.com>, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Thoughts/prayer
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19980407150916.470f44eeATnospamdomin8rex.com>
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Lobster is a wise silly crustacean on the list.. but that stuff was
ritten by me, not him... not that it matters much.. Blessings, Mystress.
At 04:15 PM 07/04/98 EDT, you wrote:
>Lobster: (actually Mystress.. but what the heck..there is only One.
> Really? Hmmmm... well, I think you have been praying, you just didn't
> call it that.. your every thought is a prayer. I don't think we can really
> not-pray.. not to discount your experience, >>
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>Leona
>PS BTW, who is Lobster? Is that a screen name? Why? Is that what you
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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 19:20:52 EDT
From: Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com>
To: samyanaATnospamhotmail.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, david.bozziATnospamsnet.net
Subject: Gloria Lee's Incredible Question!
Message-ID: <4bbd2598.352ab4d6ATnospamaol.com>
In a message dated 4/7/1998 1:33:53 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
samyanaATnospamhotmail.com writes:
<< Just what do you DO after you stop seeking...?? whatever
it may be you are seeking...peace, truth, etc. >>
Harsha: Oh Gloria, I thought you knew! Then you get to bore others to tears
by endlessly talking about it. :--). Sorry, I couldn't resist. Like it or
not I am totally funny and that's the way it is. Seriously though (not
really), after you DO stop seeking, you start floating. That is because
seeking creates a subtle gravitational pull that holds you down. I could also
say that once you stop seeking consciously, and relax perfectly, You start
Truly Seeing. You are right Gloria. Life is for kindness, giving, and
enjoying. Embrace it with all your heart and soul and you will have embraced
Your Own Self.
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