1998/04/07 08:41
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #275
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 275
Today's Topics:
Re: chakras [ anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities. ]
Re: A Community of The Spirit [ "Ed" <lobATnospamlineone.net> ]
Re: kundalini questions [ "Rick Puravs" <ric51ATnospamgeorge.lhi.net ]
RE: screensaver therapy :-) [ "Roberto Gonzales del Valle" <93035 ]
Re: Enlightenment (One Mo' Time) [ anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities. ]
Re: Fat 101 [ Dolce Vita <lissetteATnospambridge.net> ]
Re: a poem/talking to oneself [ David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net> ]
Re: Fat 101 [ anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities. ]
Re: REMOVE FROM LIST!! [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
Re: a poem/talking to oneself [ hbarrettATnospamix.netcom.com (Holly N. Ba ]
Re: a poem/talking to oneself [ "Gloria Lee" <samyanaATnospamhotmail.com> ]
Re: kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #265 [ Ken.ShamATnospamhollywoodbbs.org (Ken Sham ]
Re: kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #272 [ Ken.ShamATnospamhollywoodbbs.org (Ken Sham ]
Always Room for Rumi??(re: Bozzi Tal [ "Gloria Lee" <samyanaATnospamhotmail.com> ]
Re: a poem/talking to oneself [ LHodges942 <LHodges942ATnospamaol.com> ]
Re: a poem/talking to oneself [ David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net> ]
Re: a poem/talking to oneself [ hbarrettATnospamix.netcom.com (Holly N. Ba ]
Re: a poem/talking to oneself [ Imtgxxx <ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com> ]
Re: a poem/talking to oneself [ David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net> ]
Re: REMOVE FROM LIST!! [ "Ed" <lobATnospamlineone.net> ]
Re: Enlightenment (One Mo' Time) [ "Ed" <lobATnospamlineone.net> ]
Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource [ "Ed" <lobATnospamlineone.net> ]
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 00:35:35 -0700
From: anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities.com>
To: odieATnospamvelocity.net
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: chakras
Message-ID: <3529D747.31CE5961ATnospamgeocities.com>
odie wrote:
> A question for the more experienced in K. when the K travels through
> the chakras
> what will happen if the ch. are not pure and open. next ?.
Anandajyoti> Nothing much will happen, only the expectations which one
may have being unfulfilled will be depressing and make you feel unhappy.
> how do i go about purifying
> the chakras to help speed K on its way up.
Anandajyoti> Through breathing, Awareness, Attention, Methodical
regularity, Self Observation and Reflection
> what are the best meditation methods to use to awaken K.
Anandajyoti> Observe your thoughts flow by, breathe naturally, with
Awareness and focussing on the thoughts without attachment or
involvement. Gradually , you would observe thoughts recede, become more
spaced from one to the other. This calms the mind. Sharpen the Awareness
of Being.
> Sorry for all the seemingly simple,stupid ?s but i am new and
> learning and could use the wisdom i find on this post. Joe
>
Anandajyoti> No question which comes to the consciousness from the
Universe, is ever wrong or right, and definitely they are not stupid may
be simple. Feel free to throw the questions as and when they arise and
discern the inputs, from your state of your consciousness, then choose
according to your nature, what you may comfortable with and thrive and
grow.
Anandajyoti
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/6782
>
>
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 13:59:57 -0700
From: "Ed" <lobATnospamlineone.net>
To: "Kundalini list" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>,
"Danijel Turina" <sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.tel.hr>
Subject: Re: A Community of The Spirit
Message-Id: <199804061625.RAA08791ATnospamboober.lineone.net>
> >PS. Poem snipped out of jealous spite
>
> :)))) LOL :)))))) Well, I was very unpleasant there; it is just that I
can
> never relax reading your posts, I never know what you're up to, I never
did
> actually. ;))) So this poem thing was a shock - wow, it sounded clear and
> simple. :))) Sorry to have been so unpleasant with you - actually I
thought
> "what have I done" when I saw my own post on the list. :)))
> Take care! :)
My Dear Friend,
There is no unpleasantness present.
Never relax eh? You are confusing me with a flotation chamber.
Clear and simple? You obviously read Rumi in a . ... . what's the word . .
. refreshing way.
What Have you done?
Friend
Who will come to the gathering?
Sit with solace with joy
Who will be kind to the mean
Tender in the face of terror
the Lover of the Neglected hag?
Who?
You fickle Saints and Lovers of Beauty
No time for Your Beloved Gods mad moments?
Go then and admire Nature
Go then and find Love
When you have had your fill
I shall await you with a Black Heart
I shall take you to Hell
that you might know Paradise
and subjugate the Prince of Lies
the Shining one
who sits with solace with joy
too mean to be kind
Tender face of terror
the Lover of the Neglected
Be well
Lobster (as expected)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 17:30:54 -0400
From: "Rick Puravs" <ric51ATnospamgeorge.lhi.net>
To: <margolisATnospamtransbay.net>, <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: kundalini questions
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>In a message dated 98-04-04 21:17:54 EST, margolisATnospamtransbay.net writes:
>
><< What practice or experience caused your kundalini to
> awaken?
Shaktipat from Shri Anandi Ma on August 17,1997......at least that's the official version. I'm still debating if it was awake prior to that. Certainly i've had a variety
of experiences that go back to childhood. Who knows.
Rick
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 22:46:38 -0600
From: "Roberto Gonzales del Valle" <930359ATnospamaloe.ulima.edu.pe>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: RE: screensaver therapy :-)
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I got the screen saver and enjoy it very much. Looking forward to the
chackra buzz. The ying/yang thing is great. I watch it and feel the
caos-control trip of life. The little red ball being the unexplainable
circumstance that changes caos to control, that thing that just comes to
you. It just comes to you, no matter how much you look for it. But one has
to keep on looking for it (if not, where´s the fun, I like surprises
though).
Thank you Sharon. Way to Go!
Roberto.
Lima, Peru.
>In a message dated 98-04-05 15:00:18 EDT, you write:
>
><< I have another screen saver I might be putting online before too
> long...it's 7 chakra-colored 3-dimensional stars that start rotating and
> play a tone from a
> Debussy-like whole tone scale when struck with pleasant-sounding random
> music as the result. It was just for fun...but I have a notion that it
may
> stimulate the chakras. At least mine buzz a bit when I watch it. :-) >>
>
>I get a major kundalini "buzz" everytime I watch fractal patterns. For
those
>who don't get results from pranayama, maybe watching fractals can achieve
the
>same results.
>It works for me.
>
>Peg
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 21:48:47 -0700
From: anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities.com>
To: lobATnospamlineone.net
CC: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Enlightenment (One Mo' Time)
Message-ID: <352B01AF.E1C11F05ATnospamgeocities.com>
Hello Ed !
T seek your permission, of course with due regnition to yourself, to be able to
use certain portions of this mini speech of yours in our Toastamsters Club , so
that others may find some benefit from your rendition. I find your perspective
would be very beneficial for many, who may to choose to ponder over your words.
Please let me know .
With best Wishes,
Anandajyoti
Ed wrote:
> ===================
>
> HIGHER LEVELS OF COMMUNICATION (from Beyond Enlightenment)
> The idea that words are only to be used in a precise
> and limited way are an anathema to poets and mystic
> alike. ........etc.
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 02:44:27 -0400
From: Dolce Vita <lissetteATnospambridge.net>
To: david.bozziATnospamsnet.net
CC: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Fat 101
Message-ID: <352879CA.1E94ATnospambridge.net>
HI
Please can you help?
Where can I find more information on linoleic acid and Omega 3, I have
both at home and I don't know how to take them and how much....
Thanks,
Lissette
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 02:54:50 -0400
From: David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net>
To: Gloria Lee <samyanaATnospamhotmail.com>, Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: a poem/talking to oneself
Message-ID: <3529CDBA.20E12302ATnospammail.snet.net>
Gloria Lee wrote:
> Reminds me once when I asked my
> young son if he couldn't be a bit more careful.. and he replied, "I
> would, but how do I know what is going to happen till it happens?" >
Be aware in the Moment...
I was talking to myself about this whole schizophrenic habit humans have
taken
up regarding talking to themselves.
If there is only One Self, why the need for speech?
Hey, this is a dream. (Or so it's been suggested.)
Everyone thinks everyone is someone else.
Now we need symbols to convey what our *particular perspective* is at a
given time. Perception is the ultimate filter.
The price to pay for the thrill of probability and chaos.
But since we regard Ourself as someone else it only follows that
this applies to ourself.
If I pay attention I might discover that there might not be much to say.
Just who is it that I think that I'm talking to anyway?
The Divine? Who's talking? (this list is beginning to sound like a bunch
of owls)
Some part of me knows something another part of me doesn't, and
there's probably another part of that doesn't care.
Talking to oneself is an effect of not being in tune with Oneself.
After all, if I had paid awareness to begin with I might just Know...
But you know, no matter how you look at it,
this was all just a conversation I had with Myself...
Peace
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 23:54:04 -0700
From: anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities.com>
To: lissetteATnospambridge.net
CC: david.bozziATnospamsnet.net, Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Fat 101
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Dolce Vita wrote:
> HI
> Please can you help?
> Where can I find more information on linoleic acid and Omega 3, I have
> both at home and I don't know how to take them and how much....
> Thanks,
> Lissette
Omega3 fatty acids are known to be used in preventing heart attacks and
strengthening the immune system. This is also naturally found in Purslane-
Portulaca. Grandi Flora (Moss Rose) also contains this omega3 fatty acid.
The dosage should be verified with a doctor.
Linoleic Acid in small amounts stimulate respiration and improve
digestion, but in excess may cause respiratory failure.
Here again I would suggest to take proper dosage under advisement from a
doctor.
For more info you may need to punch in the names in the search field of
http://www.altavista.digital.com and find out if any info is available on
the net.
With Best Wishes,
Anandajyoti
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/6782
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 01:08:18
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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 08:39:43 -0500 (CDT)
From: hbarrettATnospamix.netcom.com (Holly N. Barrett, Ph.D.)
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: a poem/talking to oneself
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David asked why we talk to ourselves. I think it is to protect
ourselves and to keep ourselves company. When the Self is known, this
is no longer necessary. Holly
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 07:33:28 PDT
From: "Gloria Lee" <samyanaATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, david.bozziATnospamsnet.net
Subject: Re: a poem/talking to oneself
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>Gloria Lee wrote:
>
>> Reminds me once when I asked my
>> young son if he couldn't be a bit more careful.. and he replied, "I
>> would, but how do I know what is going to happen till it happens?"
>
>
>Be aware in the Moment...
NO ONE is more aware in the moment..than a young child..his original
statement reflects his LACK of preconconceived notions and anticipative
fears... This is the same child who also replied to my remark that he
had no patience.."Yeah, I know, and I don't want any, either." We are
talking 3 years old here, David..give the kid a break. >
>I was talking to myself about this whole schizophrenic habit humans
have
>taken
>up regarding talking to themselves.
>
>If there is only One Self, why the need for speech?
>Hey, this is a dream. (Or so it's been suggested.)
Even in my dreams, people talk...
>
>Everyone thinks everyone is someone else.
>Now we need symbols to convey what our *particular perspective* is at a
>given time. Perception is the ultimate filter.
>The price to pay for the thrill of probability and chaos.
Dunno about you...but I have always been kinda a thrillseeker..you got
something against this? Even amidst the chaos, we can always remember
the truth simultaneously with the experience which appears to contradict
it..just makes the trip more fun that way.>
>But since we regard Ourself as someone else it only follows that
>this applies to ourself.
Yep, nice talking to you, too..why stop now??
>
>If I pay attention I might discover that there might not be much to
say.
>Just who is it that I think that I'm talking to anyway?
>The Divine? Who's talking? (this list is beginning to sound like a
bunch
>of owls)
But you are such a HOOT, David...:)))))))))))))))) Having gotten used to
your usual one liners...(in which you manage to condense paragraphs of
wisdom to one sentence)
>
>Some part of me knows something another part of me doesn't, and
>there's probably another part of that doesn't care.
Yes...and another part that watches all these other parts talking..???
>
>Talking to oneself is an effect of not being in tune with Oneself.
>After all, if I had paid awareness to begin with I might just Know...
ok...sure you might..but maybe listening to yourself talk is just
another way to have awareness...why not see it as just another way of
getting in tune..Silence is wonderful..but I begin to suspect we have
over-rated all this silence and emptiness...the question is more like
why the creation of all this so-called dream world of illusion and
manifestation in the first place??? Why was not the emptiness content to
remain silent?? You answer me that, David..and we'll have something to
talk about. I mean you may have your preferences, David..but the dream
is a happening right here and now, too.
>But you know, no matter how you look at it,
>this was all just a conversation I had with Myself...
yeah, I always enjoy a bit of silliness with you, too....
You are such a hoot... :):):)
>
>Peace
>
>
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Date: 07 Apr 98 20:27:52 -0800
From: Ken.ShamATnospamhollywoodbbs.org (Ken Sham)
To: kundalini-l-dATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #265
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Are there any yoga masters around here...because I would like to
start practicing yoga...I used to practice yoga from books, but
since I lost the book, I wasn't able to continue...
Thanx...
-- KEN
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Date: 07 Apr 98 20:38:18 -0800
From: Ken.ShamATnospamhollywoodbbs.org (Ken Sham)
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I'd like to know more about the chakras...maybe you some old
archives to share...
Thanx...
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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 07:38:57 PDT
From: "Gloria Lee" <samyanaATnospamhotmail.com>
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Cc: david.bozziATnospamsnet.net
Subject: Always Room for Rumi??(re: Bozzi Talking)
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>
> The Whirling
>.
>Oh come, oh come! You are the soul
> of the soul of the soul of whirling!
>Oh come! You are the cypress tall
> in the blooming garden of whirling!
>Oh come! For there has never been
> and never will be one like you!
>Oh come! Such one have never seen
> the longing eyes of whirling!
>Oh come! The fountain of the sun
> is hidden under your shadow!
>You own a thousand Venus stars
> in the circling heavens of whirling!
>The whirling sings your praise and thanks
> with a hundred eloquent tongues:
>I'll try to say just one, two points
> translating the language of whirling.
>.
>For when you enter in the dance
> you then leave both these worlds.
>For outside these two worlds there lies
> the universe, endless, of whirling.
>The roof is high, the lofty roof
> which is on the seventh sphere,
>But far beyond this roof has reached
> the ladder, the ladder of whirling!
>Whatever there appears but HE,
> you tread on that in dancing:
>The whirling, see, belongs to you
> and you belong to the whirling.
>What can I do when Love appears
> and puts its claw round my neck?
>I grasp it, take it to my breast
> and drag it into the whirling!
>And when the bosom of the motes
> is filled with the glow of the sun,
>They enter all the dance, the dance
> and do not complain in the whirling!
>.
>Rumi/Circa 1200 AD
>
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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 10:54:06 EDT
From: LHodges942 <LHodges942ATnospamaol.com>
To: Kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: a poem/talking to oneself
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In a message dated 98-04-07 09:45:23 EDT, hbarrettATnospamix.netcom.com (Holly N.
Barrett, Ph.D.) wrote:
<< David asked why we talk to ourselves. I think it is to protect
ourselves and to keep ourselves company >>
Leona here:
My observation of talking to ourselves is because of too much confusion in the
mind, and talking out loud is the only way some people can stay concentrated
on the subject they wish to think about. They have to think outloud in order
to hear themselves think.
May be wrong, but it's been my observation.
Leona
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 11:31:53 -0400
From: David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net>
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: a poem/talking to oneself
Message-ID: <352A46E9.4F107E35ATnospammail.snet.net>
Gloria Lee wrote:
> Dunno about you...but I have always been kinda a thrillseeker..you got
> something against this?
I have nothing against anything. Seekers of any kind could not be at
peace.(that's fine) I am a peace finder. I also find disruption. But that
doesn't last.
(thank God).
> Even amidst the chaos, we can always remember
> the truth simultaneously with the experience which appears to contradict
> it..just makes the trip more fun that way.>
Truth is not good enough. It needs salt?Let's improve Perfection?
> >But since we regard Ourself as someone else it only follows that
> >this applies to ourself.
> Yep, nice talking to you, too..why stop now??
Supposing one was sleeping,The only worthwhile thing to say might be "Wake
up!"
> Having gotten used to
> your usual one liners...(in which you manage to condense paragraphs of
> wisdom to one sentence)
Wisdom? Who said anything about wisdom?
> but maybe listening to yourself talk is just
> another way to have awareness..
Listening is a way to have awareness.
> .why not see it as just another way of
> getting in tune.
Choose to see every manifestation as a way to get in tune.But what's so
great about being in tune you say.
It's empty you say.(which it is not)
It's boring you say.
I say you don't know what I refer to.
(that's because I'm referring to It.)
> .Silence is wonderful..but I begin to suspect we have
> over-rated all this silence and emptiness..
We've over-rated noise. Emptiness? There is certainly nothing to sayabout
that.
> .the question is more like
> why the creation of all this so-called dream world of illusion and
> manifestation in the first place???
That's a sucker question designed to divert your attention from a
realquestion. What do you want? Illusion or Truth?
You say truth is boring and empty?
I say you've confused truth for illusion.
What's more boring than nothing?
Illusion is nothing.
> Why was not the emptiness content to
> remain silent??
Emptiness' is nothing. But if you refer to the Source I say It isEverything
(but not a thing).
Real Silence is all frequencies unified.
It's so loud you might think it's forever.
(But then you might not think at all..)
Oh that would be terrible, right?
We might have to actually face Ourself!
What a nightmare. Who would want to do that?
> but the dream
> is a happening right here and now, too.
We *think* it's happening but...
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 10:29:48 -0500 (CDT)
From: hbarrettATnospamix.netcom.com (Holly N. Barrett, Ph.D.)
To: LHodges942 <LHodges942ATnospamaol.com>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: a poem/talking to oneself
Message-Id: <199804071529.KAA03780ATnospamdfw-ix15.ix.netcom.com>
>
>
>Leona here:
>My observation of talking to ourselves is because of too much
confusion in the
>mind, and talking out loud is the only way some people can stay
concentrated
>on the subject they wish to think about. They have to think outloud
in order
>to hear themselves think.
>
You're quite right about this. I was referring to the non-stop voice
inside our heads that is useful for planning and learning, but spends
90% of its time thinking thoughts it has already thought -- most of
them judgemental about self and others. Yet it is so hard to imagine
(till we get a taste of the Divine) that we can live without this
voice! Holly
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:34:23 EDT
From: Imtgxxx <ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: a poem/talking to oneself
Message-ID: <32c47980.352a4781ATnospamaol.com>
<< << David asked why we talk to ourselves. I think it is to protect
ourselves and to keep ourselves company >>
<<Leona here:
<My observation of talking to ourselves is because of too much confusion in
the
<mind, and talking out loud is the only way some people can stay concentrated
<on the subject they wish to think about. They have to think outloud in
order
<to hear themselves think. May be wrong, but it's been my observation.
Sounds right to me. They all come from fear (I'm talking to myself to protect
myself, or because I'm confused). Being aware, and knowing you don't need to
talk to yourself (or others), but do it anyway if you want, just for the fun
of it -- for the sharing, the laughter, the joy, the drama. Not because you
are afraid, but because you love to communicate, no matter who it is with!
The body, the voice, is merely a tool for our function here - to be happy.
Still delusional in my Pollyanna World,
xxxtg
* It's not who you sleep with, it's who keeps you awake *
http://members.aol.com/Teeegeee/tgsplace.html <~~~~ on the web now!
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 11:41:31 -0400
From: David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net>
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: a poem/talking to oneself
Message-ID: <352A492B.3190927EATnospammail.snet.net>
Holly N. Barrett, Ph.D. wrote:
> David asked why we talk to ourselves. I think it is to protect
> ourselves and to keep ourselves company. When the Self is known, this
> is no longer necessary. Holly
I'll share it bit. When I was young I could always sense a type of
presence.
I'd begin to notice it when I was quiet. I was terrified of it. I thought
it was
spirits with no good intentions. So I began to talk to myself. My
reasoning
as a child was that the spirit presence would think I was with someone
else
and this would keep it at bay. This worked well. I could just keep talking
until
I forgot about it.
Now I realize it's not a presence but a Presence.
It has wonderful intent.
It's larger than my imagination.
It lives forever.
It Loves.
I still talk to an *image* of myself,
But not as much.
David
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 08:37:21 -0700
From: "Ed" <lobATnospamlineone.net>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>, "Diane" <drf140ATnospamemail.psu.edu>
Subject: Re: REMOVE FROM LIST!!
Message-Id: <199804071539.QAA10907ATnospamboober.lineone.net>
> >From: Diane <drf140ATnospamemail.psu.edu>
> >Subject: REMOVE FROM LIST!!
> >
> >REMOVE ME FROM THE LIST!
Hi Diane,
Most profound. Thank you for sharing your perspective. Your attempt to
remove your being from "the list" in order to return to the cosmic void is
a wonderful spiritual metaphor. By "the list" I assume you are not
referring to a shopping list but intend to be "listless".
However this powerful Mantra when repeated is not as effective as other
procedures which you might learn for future reference.
Lobster
Recently removed
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 08:38:52 -0700
From: "Ed" <lobATnospamlineone.net>
To: "anandajyoti" <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities.com>
Cc: <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: Enlightenment (One Mo' Time)
Message-Id: <199804071539.QAA10807ATnospamboober.lineone.net>
> Hello Ed !
> T seek your permission, of course with due regnition to yourself, to be
able to
> use certain portions of this mini speech of yours in our Toastamsters
Club , so
> that others may find some benefit from your rendition. I find your
perspective
> would be very beneficial for many, who may to choose to ponder over your
words.
>
> Please let me know .
>
> With best Wishes,
>
> Anandajyoti
That I can be the cause of beneficial pondering is indeed an honour. I
consider everything I "say" on-line speech and therefore people are free to
repeat it. If I place (c) 1998 or similar then I expect copyright law to be
honoured and the usual permissions and courtesies extended.
Lobster
(c) 1998
PS. Can we own people, words or land? Can we own our own bodies and wisdom,
loaned to us for a short while? Everything you have will be taken from you.
What you have is a gift. What you give is a gift. This is mine does not
sound as sweet as this is Ours. When we share we increase the joy of the
gift bestowed on us.
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 09:34:02 -0700
From: "Ed" <lobATnospamlineone.net>
To: <linchATnospamhealth.missouri.edu>, <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
Message-Id: <199804071539.QAA10513ATnospamboober.lineone.net>
> Here is a website related to kundalini, in which I found the most
interesting and
> profound things in the world.
> http://www-personal.umich.edu/~taow/falun.html
You obviously have not seen my dustbin . . . :-)
Thanks for the tip.
Lobster rummaging . . .
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