1998/04/03 02:40
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #259
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 259
Today's Topics: KL : EGO [ "Sandeep Chatterjee"
To: Subject: KL : EGO
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>>John Living wrote: >>>> The fact that an enlightened person no longer needs to derive a
>sense of >>> self from his interactions with the external world does not mean that
>he is >>> devoid of personality, character, or idiosyncrasies. .. What is
>important is >>> that they are no longer pyschologically attached to these attributes.
>> >>John Living wrote:
>> >>> It is not that they have lost their individual egos; it is that they
>have >>> lost the continual need to reaffirm them. Action ceases to be
>dominated by >>> the ego and becomes more appropriate to the situation at hand.
Hi Gloria
I was reflecting on these thoughts.
If an enlightened person (whatever that is supposed to mean) has to remember
that he/she is enlightened, then that is another game of the ego, another "cocoon" build around himself/herself.
I would say an enlightened person lives totally and completely in the NOW.
Whatever the moment of the NOW evokes in him is appropriate, he stands by
the way without interfering. It is actually wrong to say that he consciously does not interfere (because that will again be another interference) but the
situation is there is nobody there to analyze, think, interfere, choose, judge and act. And yet much gets created through and around such a being.
A symbology of a hollow flute. Empty and yet great music gets created through it.
So to say such and such person became enlightened or even as some of the
self confessed Gurus of today who affirm their enlightenment is BS. Why?
Because if there was still "someone" around to affirm, then really nothing has changed.
Rather a more correct description of the state would be........ I am no more, Isness Is.
I am reminded here of the Zen Masters. The greatest contribution of Zen for
me is the "demystification" of the whole gamut of enlightenment, Samadhi, Kundalini Awakening, Nirvana, Moksha etc.
Asked what was the difference before and after enlightenment a Zen Master
laughed and said Now when I am hungry I only eat, when I am tired I only sleep.
In such an ordinary statement look at the profoundness. In our ordinarily life do we at all "only" eat or "only" sleep.This Zen Master is saying he
lives in the Now.
At the early morning breakfast table, the new disciple anxious to show his depth of study of esoteric subjects asks the Master
Is there life after Death
Is there a soul Do we carry the seeds of our desires from life time to life time.
Do you agree with Jesus's statement that in My Father's Kingdon time shall be no more
How can I use my awakened kundalini to do Astral travelling
The Master points to the disciple's plate and remarks "Your food is getting
cold". The crestfallen disciple did not understand the profundity of this remark.
The reality of that moment was just that........ the food on the plate was becoming cold. Nothing more, nothing less.
Some thoughts in an idle moment.............
One has not to fall into the whirl of calming the mind That in itself is the restlessness
The mind is what it is, accept it as such This acceptance brings peace.
Rejection is restlessness, acceptance is peace- and he who reaches total
acceptance "attains"
Acceptance cannot come from an act of will. "I accept" conceals non-acceptance
because will is always of the ego. Ego cannot live unless fed by rejection.
Acceptance can never be brought about by action, only understanding life can bring it about.
Look, look at life
What is is, it is as it is. Things are such- do not ask them to be otherwise
because they cannot be, even if you so desire.
Desire is altogether impotent And can there be restlessness without desire?
Don't float with the current of thoughts
just be aware of them. Know that you are separate from them, distinct, distant
just an observer. Just watch the flow of thoughts like a traffic
watch them as you watch dry leaves flying here and there in fall.
Don't be the one who makes them happen
Don't be the one to whom they happen Then the rest takes place by itself
This is meditation.
See ! Krishna is laughing, Jesus is laughing, Buddha is laughing Listen! The earth and heaven are laughing!
But man weeps for he doesn't know what he is What a joke! What a game!
Emperors go begging and fish in the ocean is thirsty.
Existence is a play of sun and shade of hope and despair
of life and death So existence is duality
a tension of opposite poles a music of contrary notes
To know it, to recognize it,
to experience it as such is to go beyond it.
This transcendence is the real sadhana
The key to this transcendence
is the witness state Bid goodbye to the doer
live in the witness state
Watch the drama don't drown in it
Then happiness and sorrow birth and death
remain just a play they do not affect you
they cannot affect you All error, all ignorance comes from identification.
In zikr
Sandeep
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From: Mark Anthony Collins To: Rick Puravs
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com Subject: Re: Pranayama
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Rick Puravs wrote: >
> know all living beings as your lover > remember the kindness of all your lovers
> develop the wish to repay the kindness of all your lovers > develop affectionate love
> develop great compassion >
> the bodies of one's self and others are not two >
> Mudita (boundless delight in the attainment of others), > Rick
AMEN, brother!
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 23:56:55 From: Mystress Angelique Serpent
To: Stuart Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: pranayama: Blowing kisses. Message-Id:
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At 06:42 02/04/98 -0700, Stuart wrote: >I'll take my, what you refer to as spiritual pride over your pseudo
intellectual >understanding of what your twisted ego classifies for you as enlightenment
and >wisdom.
>(Pause-and listen to the ego rising now)
Yes, I hear your ego rising. LOL! It shouts very loudly when offended. Poor thing.
Your ego's barking offends me not at all. Please have no fear that I have been harmed by it. No worries. I am relaxed, I am amused.
>One last thing Mystress (as I'm no respecter of persons), when you speak
to me >please refrain from such ways of expression as "no you won't" or equate my
>sincere questions as whining. I am not part of your little psychodrama group.
One last thing Stuart. It is apparent to me already that you are no
respecter of persons, boldly obvious from your behavior in fact. ...and thus perhaps you are ideally inappropriate to be a member of a civilized
list like this one?
I am "List Mystress", that is the polite term I use for LIST OWNER, because I do not own the listmembers.. but I do keep the peace and I can
certainly threaten to unsub you if you are not more respectful of your peers. I just Did. Lookit that... :D It was easy and fun!
I can absolutely give you an ultimatum to not waste bandwidth reposting junk. And I have. Not that I necessarily think that you will.. no
expectations of one who is not a respecter of persons, nor a member of a band of merry psychodramatists..
While I am at it, I will also ask you to please learn to snip!!!! Reposting all of my letter with your response is another way you have, of
not being respectful of other listmembers intelligence, time, patience and resources.
I used to be very patient with folks who acted up on the list, but I am
considering changing my policy. I am open to hearing opinions on this. I used to wait for disruptive folks to be lynched by the list, and driven
off rather than acting to unsub them. In this way I did not have to be concerned with making possibly unpopular decisions. Now I think it is
kinder to all parties concerned, for me to make possibly unpopular decisions rather than to wait for a lynching... fortunately, the list seems
to find you more amusing than disruptive. Blessings, List Mystress.
******
Ding dang Pranayama yin/yang horror story #42: druid's demon.
My slave druid came to bring my tea just now and read this post over my
shoulder while I was writing it, and reminded me of his personal history with the 'new age' form of pranayama known as "breath sessions".
First time he did a breath session, guided by a novice, his then-girlfriend, he was immediately taken over by a splintered aspect of
his unconscious.. a "demon" named Rage. First thing Rage did was attack and try to kill his lady. She managed to
fight him off, and the next time they had a more experienced facilitator.. she couldn't handle Rage either.. They brought in a powerful pro, who
called on the Archangels and did an excorcism, and so druid had some peace for a while.
I am not in favor of excorcisms.. the split bit has not been transmuted to light, healed or reintegrated, only given more rejection.
So several years later, while he and I were doing some experimentation, it showed up to me. I had an advantage.. druid has seen my k.fired
automatic zen judo self defense in action, so he is a little scared of me.. so Rage is scared of me, too and chose to show when druid was already in a
straightjacket so I'd not hurt him.. LOL! What a spooky thing it was tho.. icy chill cold hatred and madness
hissing and growling saying "druid is not here now.." in a growly voice. Urg. But it is really only a lonely frightened child.
I gave it love and it subsided and let druid come back.. a few days later we did a "soul retrieval" and reintegrated poor lonely splintered Rage back
into unity of the circle of druid's tao. Very cool, strengthened by the re-integration, he regained a "warrior"
aspect of himself he had not known, and is facilitating the process by taking Kung Fu. Got his yellow belt last week, I am proud.
Aside from that I have some fun with my breath.. I can blow prana/k-fire
at people with intention and see it take effect. I can knock someone flat with a word, turn them on or take them into a fit of giggles. I can blow
out blockages and clear channels. I can make it a cloud of love or a laser scalpel. The effects of the energy are not limited by distance.. I have
blown a kiss over the net recently that had most definite effects.
However, my current Pranayama master is grey alien.. amazing how much they know about human potential.
Blessings, Mystress. Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 14:30:09
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent To: david.bozziATnospamsnet.net
Cc: Kundalini Subject: Re: pranayama
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Hmmm.. natural selection, ya figger? Could be so. Death by idiocy.
At 15:04 02/04/98 -0500, David Bozzi wrote:
>Mystress Angelique Serpent wrote: >
>> This was so ridiculous, that "Saturday Night Live" did a sketch on it, >> thereby broadcasting the idea to impressionable folks all over. The result?
>> Suddenly kids were being checked into hospital with microwaved brains all >> over the country.
> >The herd always has a way for thinning the pack.
> >
> Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 09:19:13 +0100
From: "Sen Ashanka" To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
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Hello all,
Hey, the joke session was really good...
Dear Anurag, you had started a nice little thread of jokes....
Here's some more ....
These are some cool error messages we keep receiving ...
--------------------------------------------------------------------------- -----------
1) Smash forehead on keyboard to continue.
2) Enter any 11-digit prime number to continue.
3) Press any key to continue or any other key to quit.
4) Hit any user to continue.
5) Press any key... no, no, no, NOT THAT ONE!
6) Press Ctrl-Alt-Del now for IQ test.
7) Close your eyes and press escape three times.
8) Bad command or file name! Go stand in the corner.
9) This will end your Windows session.
Do you want to play another game?
10) Windows message: 'You have just made a type mismatch!
Shall I format your brain?'
11) This is a message from God: -Rebooting the universe, please log out-
12) Keyboard not attached. Press F1 to continue.
13) BREAKFAST.SYS halted... Cereal port not responding.
14) COFFEE.SYS missing... Operator halted.
15) COFFEE.SYS missing... Insert cup and press any key.
16) REALITY.SYS missing... Universe halted.
17) CONGRESS.SYS corrupted... Re-boot Washington D.C? (Y/N)
18) REALITY.SYS corrupted... Reboot universe? (Y/N)
19) File not found. Should I fake it? (Y/N)
20) Bad or missing mouse driver. Spank the cat? (Y/N)
21) Runtime Error 6D at 417A:32CF: Incompetent User.
22) Error reading FAT record: Try the SKINNY one? (Y/N)
23) WinErr 547: LPT1 not found... Use backup... PENCIL & PAPER.
24) User Error: Replace user, hit any key to continue.
25) Windows VirusScan 1.0 - -OS/2 found: Remove it? (Y/Y)-
26) Backup not found: (A)bort (R)etry (P)anic
LOL - ROTFALAL - YAAHOO
Cheers and love to all
Ashanka Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 00:12:28
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent To: "Sandeep Chatterjee"
Cc: Subject: Re: This I Know
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At 10:19 03/04/98 +0530, Sandeep Chatterjee wrote:
>Whatsoever's is man's, is mine-
>flowers and thorns >darkness as well as light
>And if nectar is mine, whose is poison? >NECTAR AND POISON-BOTH ARE MINE
Michael and Lucifer, both am I,
light and dark, the fox and the hare, creation and destruction, both am I.
It is in the acceptance of the polarities, comes the trancendence. In
absorbing the dualities of the tao, we become it's unity. Blessed be. Welcome to the list, Sandeep. Your vibe is sweet and balanced, I see it
as violet and gold. Beautiful. Blessings, Mystress.
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