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1998/04/02 22:02
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #258


kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 258
Today's Topics: RE: Want a joke... [ "Jan Barendrecht" ]
  Re: IMHO, IMO, LOL & Other Email Abb [ MMeyers541 ] Re: Pranayama [ MsSheWolf ]
  Re: Harsha's comment [ "Sandeep Chatterjee" To:
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> -----Original Message----- > From: anandadajyoti [mailto:anandajyotiATnospamgeocities.com]
> Sent: Friday, April 03, 1998 2:02 AM > To: Jan Barendrecht
> Cc: anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in; kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com > Subject: Re: Want a joke...
> >
> Jan Barendrecht wrote: > >
> > >> Anurag Goel [mailto:anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in] wrote: > > > Hi Everyone,
> > > Can you give me a good and nice joke. I have made > > > someone(Girl) angry and sad.I want to make her happy.
> > > Reply soon > > > Love,
> > > anurag > > >
> > Hi Anurag, > >
> > Try this one - for women it is funny: > >
> > A naked man is standing before a talking elephant. > > Says the elephant: "It sure looks nice, but can you pick up a
> peanut with > > it??"
> > > > Jan
> > (this is a man's name in my former home country - tnx for the > compliment
> > Peg) >
> For those of you with grown children: Laugh (or groan) at you > leisure, but please "don't try this at home." {g}
> Anandajyoti > So here goes.
> > "A Phone Call"
> > Morris calls his son in NY and says, “Benny, I have something to tell
> you. However, I don't want to discuss it. I'm merely telling you because > you're my oldest child, and I thought you ought to know. I've made up
> my mind, I'm divorcing Mama." >
> The son is shocked, and asks his father to tell him what happened. >
> "I don't want to get into it. My mind is made up." >
> "But Dad, you just can't decide to divorce Mama just like that after > 54 years together. What happened?"
> > "It's too painful to talk about it. I only called because you're my
> son, and I thought you should know. I really don't want to get into > it anymore than this. You can call your sister and tell her. It will
> spare me the pain." >
> "But where's Mama? Can I talk to her?" >
> "No, I don't want you to say anything to her about it. I haven't > told her yet. Believe me it hasn't been easy. I've agonized over it
> for several days, and I've finally come to a decision. I have an > appointment with the lawyer the day after tomorrow."
> > "Dad, don't do anything rash. I'm going to take the first flight down.
> Promise me that you won't do anything until I get there." >
> "Well, all right, I promise. Next week is Passover. I'll hold off > seeing the lawyer until after the Seder. Call your sister in NJ and
> break the news to her. I just can't bear to talk about it anymore." >
> A half hour later, Morris receives a call from his daughter who tells > him that she and her brother were able to get tickets and that they
> and the children will be arriving in Florida the day after tomorrow. > "Benny told me that you don't want to talk about it on the telephone,
> but promise me that you won't do anything until we both get there." >
> Morris promises. After hanging up from his daughter, Morris turns to > his wife and says, "Well, it worked this time, but what are we going to
> do next Yom Tov to get them to come down?" > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Sent in by Betty & Louis Kalbfeld of Ormond Beach via SKleiner. >
> DICTIONARY: > Seder: The feast commemorating the exodus of the Jews from Egypt,
> celebrated on the first two nights of Passover. It's a long meal! > Yom Tov: Any Jewish Holiday (Hebrew).
> >
     I went with the Duchess to tea, Her manners were choking to see.
     Her rumblings abdominal Were simply phenomenal,
     And everyone thought it was me.
AND GOD SAID . . .
1. Don't let worry kill you - let the church help.
2. Thursday night - Potluck supper. Prayer and medication to follow.
3. Remember in prayer the many who are sick of our church and community.
4. For those of you who have children and don't know it, we have a nursery downstairs.
5. The rosebud on the alter this morning is to announce the birth of David
Alan Belzer, the sin of Rev & Mrs Julius Belzer.
6. This afternoon there will be a meeting in the South and North ends of the
church. Children will be baptized at both ends.
7. Tuesday at 4:00 PM there will be an ice cream social. All ladies giving milk
will please come early.
8. Wednesday the ladies liturgy will meet. Mrs. Johnson will sing "Put me in my
little bed" accompanied by the pastor.
9. Thursday at 5 pm there will be a meeting of the Little Mothers Club. All ladies wishing to be "Little Mothers" will meet with the Pastor in his
study.
10. This being Easter Sunday, we will ask Mrs Lewis to come forward and lay an
egg on the altar.
11. The service will close with "Little Drops of Water." One of the ladies will
start quietly and the rest of the congregation will join in.
12. Next Sunday a special collection will be taken to defray the cost of the new
carpet. All those wishing to do something on the new carpet will come forward
and do so.
13. The ladies of the church have cast off clothing of every kind. They can be
seen in the church basement Saturday.
14. A bean supper will be held on Tuesday evening in the church hall. Music will
follow.
15. At the evening service tonight, the sermon topic will be "What is Hell?" Come early and listen to our choir practice.
Sources unknown...
Jan
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 22:46:52 -0600 From: "Roberto Gonzales del Valle"
To: Subject: RE: IMHO, IMO, LOL & Other Email Abbrevs.
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Hi everyone:
Thank you for the information.
IMHO being a part of this list is great and you people are wonderfull!
Roberto.
Lima, Peru. Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 23:10:38 EST
From: MMeyers541 To: janbarenATnospaminfase.es
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com Subject: Re: Want a joke...
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In a message dated 98-04-02 19:22:22 EST, you write:
< A naked man is standing before a talking elephant. Says the elephant: "It sure looks nice, but can you pick up a peanut with
 it??" >>
Michele: And then the man got peanuts envy. Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 23:03:33 EST
From: MMeyers541 To: ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com Subject: Re: IMHO, IMO, LOL & Other Email Abbrevs.
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tg, In a message dated 98-04-02 18:29:29 EST, you write:
< * My Kundalini Awakening came
    during my time of the month..... I just went with the flow.... *
  >>Better make sure Peg gets that poem in her m-book. Or, better yet, put it
to music (ragtime). --mm
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 23:54:05 EST From: MsSheWolf
To: ric51ATnospamgeorge.lhi.net, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com Subject: Re: Pranayama
Message-ID:
In a message dated 98-04-02 18:19:23 EST, Ric51ATnospamgeorge.ihi.net (Rick Puravs) wrote:
< know all living beings as your lover
 remember the kindness of all your lovers develop the wish to repay the kindness of all your lovers
 develop affectionate love develop great compassion
   the bodies of one's self and others are not two
   Mudita (boundless delight in the attainment of others),
 Rick >>
Rick, did I thank you for the information on Yoni and Lingam? Absolute attainment my dear friend....how can I possibly thank you? ;)
Love, Cher
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 10:15:20 +0530 From: "Sandeep Chatterjee"
To: Subject: Re: Harsha's comment
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Hi everybody,
A very good friend of mine from another List invited to come over here and may I extend a warm heart to you all. A word that Society uses to
differentiate me from another is Sandeep.
For some time today I was reading the messages on this Forum and Hmm..... sparks do fly here doesn't it. At least it gives me the impression that this
is a very alive place (grin).
To all who are being perceived as throwers of "Insults" and to those who are perceived as receivers of such "Insults", let me throw something in the
Melting Pot
You cannot insult me because I do not seek your respect in the first place.
It is when I seek, expect, something from you, then I have you made you my Master. Why? Because you then have the mastery , the power over me to deny
me what I seek from you. So if it is respect that I seek, then I am open to be insulted.
So if I have a stake in my beliefs, in my convictions, in my "insights", in my "revelations from my meditations" and thus want to shout from the roof
tops looking for lost souls to "convert", then I open to the possibility that someone will come up and call me an AssH..
Just some thoughts on the dynamics of "Insulting" (grin)
As a closing thought, Always forgive your enemies, they can't stand it.
In zikr

Sandeep

-----Original Message----- From: Kurt Keutzer
To: 'Harsha1MTM' ; kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Cc: 'keutzerATnospameecs.berkeley.edu' Date: Thursday, April 02, 1998 06:42 AM
Subject: Harsha's comments -chat (was Shakti poll)
>
> >In a message dated 98-03-31 18:53:46 EST, janbarenATnospaminfase.es writes:
> >< ---`who have you met that has the most shakti''-------
> No one. >
> Jan >> >
>Harsha: Beautifully put! Now you just have to explain it to dear Kurt! >
> >KK:
> >Harsha,
> >Gosh, let me see if I can understand it on my own - that will save Jan the
>trouble. Maybe it is that shakti is omnipresent and therefore equally in >all people. Is that it? Come on, did I get it?
> >Anyway, Harsha, if you are living in a state of non-duality, as your
>statements often would imply, > then we can all weep that before you attained enlightenment you did not
>perform actions that would have created the karma that would have made you >a skillful teacher, capable of subtly drawing people into your view. Now
>that you're enlightened there's probably nothing that you are inclined to >do about it (and nothing the rest of us can do about it either).
> >And if a state of non-duality is not your living reality then I don't know
>why you have chosen to speak the way that you do. I can say that back when >I used to talk that way, it was because I found it easier to feign an
>enlightened ``rap'' than to actually deal with the variety of unpleasant >emotions that I truly had about things. Over time I realized how
>unauthentic this was - and what the hell - nobody ever appreciated my rap >for very long anyway.
> >All that I am able to gather from a good percentage of the discourse that
>you direct toward me is either: 1) you know something I don't or 2) you've >realized something I haven't. In itself this would not be surprising. Most
>people do know something I don't and have realized something I haven't. >However, most people 1) don't' point this out on a regular basis and 2) if
>I inquire they make an honest attempt to convey what it is that they know. >>From my perspective most responses you have given to my inquiries for
>clarification have either been deflective (e.g. advanced practitioners are >aware of this) or trivial (e.g. read Swami Sivananda's book on pranayama).
> >I'm writing this to you because I don't get much value out of your posts
>but keep thinking if you *genuinely* tried, even a little, to convey >something of value to me, then it is likely I would.
> >And I'm sending this to the group as a whole because it was only after I
>read someone's comments regarding your Ramana dialectic and other's >comments regarding your sense of humor that I began to think that I wasn't
>the only one who gets tired of these comments. I'm sure that many people >appreciate your posts - unfortunately I'm not often one of them.
> >All beings desire happiness and wish to avoid unhappiness
>Kurt >
> >
> >

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>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Stand still. The trees ahead and the bushes beside you >>>>>>>>>>>Are not lost. Wherever you are is called Here,
>>>>>>>>>>>And you must treat it as a powerful stranger, >>>>>>>>>>>Must ask permission to know it and be known.
>>>>>>>>>>>The forest breathes. Listen. It answers, >>>>>>>>>>>I have made this place around you,
>>>>>>>>>>>If you leave it you may come back again, saying Here. >>>>>>>>>>>No two trees are the same to Raven.
>>>>>>>>>>>No two branches are the same to Wren. >>>>>>>>>>>If what a tree or a bush does is lost on you,
>>>>>>>>>>>You are surely lost. Stand still. The forest knows >>>>>>>>>>>Where you are. You must let it find you.
>>>>>>>>>>>
Hello Gloria

I am so grateful to you for sharing these lines. Thank you.
May I try to give back to you some of what you gave me?
Non-attachment is not concerned with things
but with thoughts Non-attachment is not related to the outside
but to the within Non-attachment is not to do with the world
but with oneself
One day a beggar went to see a Sufi fakir and found him seated on velvet cushion inside a beautiful tent with it's ropes tied to golden pegs in the
ground. Seeing all this the beggar cried:What is all this!
I have heard so much about you and your spirituality and non-attachment but I am completely disillusioned by all this ostentation around you.
The fakir laughed and immediately jumped up and said Let's go and walked off with the beggar not even waiting to put on his sandals.
After a while the beggar was distressed. "I left my begging bowl in your tent. What shall I do without it? Please
wait while I go back and fetch it." The Sufi roared in laughter. My friend said he," the gold pegs of my tent
were stuck in the earth, not in my heart; but your begging bowl is still chasing you."
To be in the world is not attachment
The presence of the world in the mind is the attachment and when the world disappears from the mind-
this is non-attachment.
In zikr
Sandeep
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Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 10:19:02 +0530 From: "Sandeep Chatterjee"
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Hello Gloria
Some more thoughts for you. Do let me know what you felt
I am one with all things
in beauty, in ugliness for whatsoever is, there I am
Not only in virtue but in sin too I am a partner:
and not only heaven but hell too is mine. Buddha, Jesus, Lao tzu-
it is easy to be their heir But Genghis, Taimur and Hitler?
They are also within me! no, not half- I AM THE WHOLE
Whatsoever's is man's, is mine- flowers and thorns
darkness as well as light And if nectar is mine, whose is poison?
NECTAR AND POISON-BOTH ARE MINE
In zikr

Sandeep

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