1998/03/24 08:42
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #225
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 225
Today's Topics:
Re: Abhyasa Yoga [ MMeyers541 <MMeyers541ATnospamaol.com> ]
Re: street lights and K? [ Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic ]
Re: PRANAYAMA [ pam roberson <pamie59ATnospamyahoo.com> ]
RE: PRANAYAMA [ Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iis ]
Re: PRANAYAMA - correction [ Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iis ]
Re: Unresolved side-effect [ Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iis ]
Re: PRANAYAMA [ Stuart <stuartfATnospamdimensional.com> ]
Re: street lights and K? [ Richard Wentk <richardATnospamskydancer.co ]
Fwd: street lights and K? [ Uni8077 <Uni8077ATnospamaol.com> ]
Re: an old Zen saying: [ Harsh Luthar <hlutharATnospambryant.edu> ]
Re: Unresolved side-effect [ "Jan Barendrecht" <janbarenATnospamcorreo. ]
Re: kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #223 [ "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.or ]
Re: street lights and K? [ Jeanne Garner <jeannegATnospamicon.net> ]
Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource [ E Jason <lobsterATnospamclara.net> ]
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 03:43:52 EST
From: MMeyers541 <MMeyers541ATnospamaol.com>
To: DruoutATnospamaol.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Abhyasa Yoga
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In a message dated 98-03-23 17:23:34 EST, you write:
<< Your story is fascinating! Were you doing anything to open up that
channel?? You never did answer the poll on Triggers!
Michele: Me miss a poll? Must've been outta town!
<<The voices aspect of all this is of ongoing fascination to me. I want to do
a survey on it at some point soon on it (that is if people want to do
surveys!). >>
Michele:
Hi Hillary, Just wrote you a reply, but it seems to have disappeared into the
ethers of the Internet. Okay, Part 2 of "Channeling With Michele":
When I went to the channeling class, all I seem to remember is that we sat
comfortably on the floor & asked our guides to show themselves to us--or
something like that--& the teacher said that they'd appear to us in whatever
form would be most amenable to us. I was quite surprised by the intensity of
the jolt I felt at the top of my head, as well as seeing the red & white
lights (esp. since my favorite color is purple, & I would have expected to see
THAT; at the time, I had zero familiarity w/kundalini, chakras, etc.--in fact,
it wasn't until I joined this k-list, that I actually started to believe I
have, in fact, been channeling all these years--someone's email about the red
& white colors of the root (base of spine) & crown chakras was a real "eye-
opener" for me!
Re: voices
Most of my life, I have heard voices, usually gently warning me of something
(negative) that was about to happen. For example: Once in Albquerque, after
I pulled into a parking space at a restaurant, a voice said, "Don't park
there"--and I pictured the car next to me backing out at the wrong angle &
seriously denting my car.
Of course, as a "mentally ill"person, I ignored the voice, said to myself,
"Gosh, you really ARE paranoid"--and watched, passively, as the driver of the
car came out of the restaurant, got into his car...& proceeded to pull out of
his space, side-swiping my car--just as I had pictured!
In college, after midnight, asleep in my basement apt., a voice told me to
"Open your eyes, don't react immediately, you are safe." I opened my eyes &
saw a man who had broken into my apt. He tried to strangle & rape me, but I
had already made my plan, kicking & screaming at just the right time--& in the
right place. Little old me, at 5'0" & 110 lbs. was able to ward off this
would-be rapist--one of my proudest accomplishments.
Since opening to channel, I hear voices fairly often, some at my request, some
guiding me through potentially dangerous situations--all very gently &
friendly. Now I listen to them--or, in the case of not hearing an invoice,
but getting an impulse to do something out of the ordinary, I follow that
impulse. Just a few years back, I became OBSESSED with "Star Signs" by Linda
Goodman, a well-known astrologer whose books I had read many years ago. (I
even went so far as to drive by her home in Cripple Creek, a small mountain
town in Colorado; an open & direct Aries, she gave her street address in her
book.)
In particular, I became fascinated w/Goodman's section on Lexigrams &
Numerology, and her opinion on their "inextricable link to astrology"--which
hadn't really resonated w/me on my previous reading of her book. I pulled an
all-nighter, testing her theories on numerology w/everybody's birth
date/number I could think of.
A couple of days later, I read in the newspaper that Linda Goodman had just
died. (I had had no idea she was ill at all! Think somehow I was really
tuned in to her.) Still not really believing or disbelieving the concept of
chanelling, I soon thereafter asked her for some guidance--and I've never
actually heard HER voice, I often receive Linda Goodman-type
information/comfort that I want/need. Prove me wrong!
(In fact, her book said her preferred method of learning/teaching was the
Socratic method--i.e., letting the student discover for herself. Always
curious, I did a "numerology run" of Goodman's name, which adds up to the
number "5," for "The Skeptic"--meaning a person who personally tests things
out before forming an opinion about anything. Thus, she herself was a harsh
critic--who boldy shared her experiences w/ghosts, Avatars, Elves & Faeries,
Druids, etc., w/her devoted public.
Okay, so I talk to Linda Goodman, among several others. She doesn't talk
back, but, as an astrologer myself, I like to think that I'm carrying on her
tradition.
So, enuff about my voices for now. This Pisces is sign-ing off. Take care,
Michele
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 04:37:10 -0600
From: Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: street lights and K?
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"Solar Lion" <gtaATnospamlanset.com> wrote:
>and then again it is more that street lights.
>
>i'm sure there are plenty of other happenings along these lines from the
>people here.
>
I've heard of a number of women who find, when they separate from their
husbands, suddenly all the machines in the house go out of whack. It
happened to me - I was continually calling a repairman. And I didn't have
overt K. then, nor did the other women. Maybe temporary manifestations?
Maybe no grounding when the men leave?
My mother was brought up as a stoic re. emotions; she didn't cry easily.
After Dad's funeral, she went to Florida to close the cottage there. As
soon as she left the big house, a pipe burst under the upstairs bathtub.
When someone finally discovered the problem, he opened the door and the
water gushed out. The downstairs was flooded, the floors had buckled, the
dining room furniture was in pieces and floating, etc. That's what I call
mourning!!
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 03:15:16 -0800 (PST)
From: pam roberson <pamie59ATnospamyahoo.com>
To: lodpressATnospamintercomm.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: PRANAYAMA
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---Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com> wrote:
>
<<<When I have
> worked with people who have been in the mental hospital and it is
spirit
> imbalance rather then simple mental or psychois, and someone who is in
> balance comes into the picture,>>>
I agree with you so completely. And I do hope for some enlightened,
balanced souls to start getting envolved in helping those tortured
souls who are confined, drugged and brainwashed into thinking they are
insane.
<<< This is a terrible place to be for people and hopefully some >
enlightened folks will get into the system to retreive those who are
> simply lost in their own creation.>>>
Your understanding of this horrible situation is wonderful. It truely
is a horrible place to be. I had mentioned in another post that I was
hospitalized in an institution for observation. After being released
(4 days later), I made an effort to get a job there. I did, and what I
saw and experienced still makes me cringe. There were numerous
physical assaults made by the employees on the patients. Patients were
being overly drugged and/or sedated because the employees of the
hospital didn't want to be bothered by them. And the list goes on.
While working there, I knew there was something much deeper going on
with the patients besides mental illness. Years later I became
completely convinced of the fact that most of those patients were
experiencing a spiritual awakening or a spiritual connection of some
kind that they just didn't understand. Or perhaps in the beginning
they had a clue, but once they told others about the "voices," then
they were locked away and drugged into a perpetual state of confusion
or constantly told that what they were experiencing wasn't real. :(((
>
> <<<I do know if I walk into this environment they
> flock to me like a magnet. And pretty much you can feel the energy go
> out of you as this huge need is present,>>>
Yes I experienced that too. I just wish that I knew then what I know
now. Because it did suck the life out of me and I left that job
(reluctantly) after a year. I suppose there was a reason for me not to
understand completely then. Perhaps what was needed of me then was
just to treat the patients like the human beings that they are. I used
to take them out to eat and shopping and to the movies. The joy we
shared on these outings is just immeasurable.
Thanks for sharing these insights Gloria. :)
Blessings
Pam
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Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:41:14 +0530 (IST)
From: Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in>
To: Kurt Keutzer <keutzerATnospameecs.berkeley.edu>
Cc: "'Anurag Goel'" <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in>,
"'Harsha1MTM'" <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com>,
"930359ATnospamaloe.ulima.edu.pe" <930359ATnospamaloe.ulima.edu.pe>,
"kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: RE: PRANAYAMA
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Hi KK,
What you are saying can be true because it is always advised
to do pranayama under the guidance of a Yoga teacher or Guru.
On Mon, 23 Mar 1998, Kurt Keutzer wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I think it's necessary to retain breath as long as you can for
> kundalini awakening. I found this to when i practise pranayama.
>
> Love,
> anurag
>
> KK: The hatha yoga texts speak of suffocating kundalini so that she rises.
> This seems to me to be the most difficult way of awakening her - and if the
> energy is not centered in the central channel when breath is retained then
> that can create an energy imbalance which manifests as physical discomfort
> or mental imbalance. As I said before:
> >
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:44:50 +0530 (IST)
From: Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in>
To: Harsh Luthar <hlutharATnospambryant.edu>
Cc: "keutzerATnospameecs.berkeley.edu" <keutzerATnospameecs.berkeley.edu>,
"'Anurag Goel'" <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in>,
"'Harsha1MTM'" <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com>,
"930359ATnospamaloe.ulima.edu.pe" <930359ATnospamaloe.ulima.edu.pe>,
"kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: PRANAYAMA - correction
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Hi,
I read somewhere that BHASRIKA is a quick way of awakening kundalini.
I have experienced it too.
Love,
anurag
On Mon, 23 Mar 1998, Harsh Luthar wrote:
>
>
> Kurt Keutzer wrote:
>
> > Earlier I said:
> > As in all areas related to kundalini there is some disagreement regarding
> > the division of pranayamas into these two categories. Kapalabathi (the
> > bellows breath) is considered by some to awaken the kundalini (e.g. Swami
> > Satyananda Saraswati) while others disagree (B. K. S. Iyengar).
> >
> > I confounded Kapalabathi with bhastrika. I should have used bhastrika in
> > the above. Incidentally, I tend to agree with B. K. S. Iyengar on this
> > point.
>
> Harsha: Quite right. Bhastrika is a much more rigorous and advanced practice
> than Kapalabhati. It has many different variations. It is usually done in
> conjunction with other things. It is best to learn Kapalabhati first.
>
>
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:30:58 +0530 (IST)
From: Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in>
To: Jan Barendrecht <janbarenATnospaminfase.es>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Unresolved side-effect
Message-Id: <Pine.SOL.3.93.980324172249.5686A-100000ATnospamBhaskara>
Hi Jan,
I don't know whether it is related to k or not .But such energy
can be present in one's eyes. I think the source is in brain.
when one drops ones eyelids it occurs as the electrical discharge
occurs in brain which triggers the dropping of eyelid activity.
In "TARATAK" one sees continuously at the target and the
electricity builds in brain. I think what you have mentioned
should be connected with this.
It can be k related if hypnotism is k related.
I have read this explanation somewhere.
Love,
anurag
On Tue, 24 Mar 1998, Jan Barendrecht wrote:
> One side-effect of my K. was the awareness of a beam of energy (radiation) leaving from the eyes. I could sense electrical fields with them and the sensation was particularly strong with HT power-lines. Gazing at them was very pleasant and felt like my ‘battery of life´ was charged. Accidentally I found out that I could project this ‘energy´ (or whatever it was) on persons. The range was limited to about 20 meters. Persons that were ‘hit´ this way, halted immediately, looked around and then checked their back at a spot, a little above the heart. Some persons I could even ask what happened and they told me, they had felt as if a sharp needle had hit them in the spine at the aforementioned location. Not knowing the consequences of it (not even knowing about K.) I tried to avoid "hitting" people by looking too suddenly at them. As this happened to strangers, I don´t know of any further effects this ‘sting´ caused. Does anyone know the effect - do chakras in the eyes exist? During this period my pupils where so enlarged that no iris could be seen and yet my eyesight was very good. The phenomenon lasted for only a week and a half and never came back (alas).
>
>
>
> Jan
>
>
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 05:44:20 -0700
From: Stuart <stuartfATnospamdimensional.com>
To: Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com>
CC: keutzerATnospameecs.berkeley.edu, 930359ATnospamaloe.ulima.edu.pe,
anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: PRANAYAMA
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Harsha1MTM wrote:
Harsha: Stuart you are obviously inclined to practice Pranayama and that is
> fine. There are many people who do it and benefit from it. You know your own
> body better than anyone else. Do it gradually and increase your capacity
> without strain. Alan Perry wrote a very wise post on not trying to force the
> issue and you may want to read it. You have access to good books and you seem
> to have the relevant information. It is always good to do a long meditative
> Savasana after the practice of pranayama and avoid talking for a few hours
> afterwards. There are certain restrictions given in the books concerning diet,
> moral conduct etc and you may want to review them. Supplement whatever you are
> doing with meditation and prayer. Find a meditation center or a spiritual
> support group near you. I think that would be helpful. Ultimately experience
> will be your best teacher. God bless you. Be well.
Prayer and meditation, or should I say at this point, sense withdrawal and
concentration are an absolute part of my day. And I'd add an agreement with your
earlier post that meditation alone can move prana. Not long after entering the
meditative posture and starting to concentrate I can feel the either prana moving
upwards as well as a pull up in the muladhara.
Peace
Stuart
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 13:03:31 +0000
From: Richard Wentk <richardATnospamskydancer.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: street lights and K?
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At 11:08 23/03/98 +0100, you wrote:
>>This k - wouldn't it be fun if we *really* understood it?
>
>I don't know, maybe, but would you really want scientists to give you
>labels even there? ;)))
Well, for me it's just *seriously* interesting and I wish I knew more about
it. Clocks stop, things break, lights flicker, and on and on. (Not to me
particularly - I'm much more grounded than I used to be. :) )
But it's still pretty damn fascinating. I like unravelling mysteries. And I
would really like to understand what's going on here. :)
R.
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:18:02 EST
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Subject: Re: street lights and K?
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:17:07 EST
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In a message dated 98-03-24 05:37:53 EST, you write:
<< I've heard of a number of women who find, when they separate from their
husbands, suddenly all the machines in the house go out of whack. It
happened to me - I was continually calling a repairman. And I didn't have
overt K. then, nor did the other women. Maybe temporary manifestations?
Maybe no grounding when the men leave?
>>
Hi. I just lurk here, hoping to learn more about Kundalini, but I have to
comment on this one. The phenomenon you mention is one well known to Navy
wives. As soon as a husband goes on a long cruise, no matter how well
maintained the appliances, etc are, SOMETHING will break down immediatly.
Lol, we never could figure out why that happened, but it always did. Perhaps
the expectation that it would happens (having heard of it from other Navy
wives) caused it to happen.
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 09:12:16 -0500
From: Harsh Luthar <hlutharATnospambryant.edu>
To: E Jason <lobsterATnospamclara.net>
CC: kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: an old Zen saying:
Message-ID: <3517BF3F.12EBA018ATnospambryant.edu>
E Jason wrote:
> Infinite gratitude for all things past.
> Infinite respect for all things present.
> Infinite responsibility for all things future.
Harsha adds: And Infinite Awareness of past, present and future being
manifestations of the Self.
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 14:21:04 -0000
From: "Jan Barendrecht" <janbarenATnospamcorreo.infase.es>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: Unresolved side-effect
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Hi Anurag,
Later on I became acquainted with the practice of trataka; I even made my
own version (as an aid to gain control over visions), by constructing a
very strong flashlight that illumined an object for a very short time. Then,
I could close my eyes and was able to concentrate/work on the ‘after´ image.
None of the these practices (standard or adapted trataka) resulted in the
awareness of beams as was experienced first. Then, the sensation that was
felt by the accidental ‘victims´ had nothing to do with electricity. When my
trials & tribulations with K. were over and I was ‘accessible´ again from
the outside world, I had the opportunity to ‘check out´ all phenomena thanks
to someone with a great knowledge of the ‘internals´ of K. and the
‘milestones´ on the path. I could easily recognize the states that were
past, but not where K. had brought me and the phenomenon I posted could not
be resolved.
It seems to be rare after all...
Jan
>From Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in>
Date: Tuesday, March 24, 1998 12:07 PM
>Hi Jan,
I don't know whether it is related to k or not .But such energy
can be present in one's eyes. I think the source is in brain.
when one drops ones eyelids it occurs as the electrical discharge
occurs in brain which triggers the dropping of eyelid activity.
In "TARATAK" one sees continuously at the target and the
electricity builds in brain. I think what you have mentioned
should be connected with this.
It can be k related if hypnotism is k related.
I have read this explanation somewhere.
>Love,
>anurag
On Tue, 24 Mar 1998, Jan Barendrecht wrote:
>> One side-effect of my K. was the awareness of a beam of energy
(radiation) leaving from the eyes. I could sense electrical fields with them
and the sensation was particularly strong with HT power-lines. Gazing at
them was very pleasant and felt like my ‘battery of life´ was charged.
Accidentally I found out that I could project this ‘energy´ (or whatever it
was) on persons. The range was limited to about 20 meters. Persons that were
‘hit´ this way, halted immediately, looked around and then checked their
back at a spot, a little above the heart. Some persons I could even ask what
happened and they told me, they had felt as if a sharp needle had hit them
in the spine at the aforementioned location. Not knowing the consequences of
it (not even knowing about K.) I tried to avoid "hitting" people by looking
too suddenly at them. As this happened to strangers, I don´t know of any
further effects this ‘sting´ caused. Does anyone know the effect - do
chakras in the eyes exist? During this period my pupils where so enlarged
that no iris could be seen and yet my eyesight was very good. The phenomenon
lasted for only a week and a half and never came back (alas).
>
>
>
>> Jan
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:33:40 -0600 (CST)
From: "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.org>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #223
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jan b penned me from a small planet near Sol:
<<This time, I have a few questions. What is the difference between "fully
enlightened" of Bodhisattvas and of Buddhas and of persons like Ramana
Maharishi. You are suggesting there are several types of "full
enlightenments". Can you explain how in a fully enlightened one there still
is room for desires
like helping others and taking rebirth? A logical conclusion would be that a
fully enlightened one taking rebirth will be a fully enlightened one
immediately, because a fully enlightened one has exhausted all karmas and
hence takes rebirth without karma. If it would be so uncomplicated, no doubt
in every system of meditation all masters/gurus would be reincarnating all
the time just for the benefit of disciples :-))) They don't - so there must
be a vast difference between "fully enlightened ones" of Buddhism and all
others systems of meditation. What has always amazed me is that only
Buddhism offers this variety of full enlightenments - to me it defies logic
whereas Buddhism is said to be open to logic.
Jan>>
as someone so aptly pointed out, as far as enlightened ones go, there is
nothing else.
This is a statement from the absolute view. Valid. But most of us are
sorta stuck in a completly relative way of looking at things. On top of
that we hardly are able if at all to see the interconnectedness that is
the truth of our existence.
We travel one step at a time in the dark so to speak.
We arent aware of the correct function of our lives.
Is it desire that motivates the bodhisattva? Impure bhumi-level
bodhisattva, i'd hazard a guess that ya that is true. Pure level, tho,
there is something else coming into play.
This concept of correct function is something i've been musing about. Its
a fluid concept and i think it applies here.
The correct function in relative mode of a coffee cup is to be in the hand
of the coffee drinker drinking coffee. If person is drinking tea, its a
tea cup.
So if a person without ego or attachment is helping others, they are a
bodhisattva. Its that simple imo. Can you help without desire?
There is a woman being chased by a robber with a knife. You are a black
belt capable of helping her. do you *think*? no you *act*. Without
hesitation, ego, or desire. That is your correct function, and it is very
clear. But if you stop to think 'what is my correct function', she dies!
you are now guilty of murder too. If you do not stop the robber, you share
in his guilt. here in this space i think is a clue to the motivation of
the pure bodhisattva.
A long way of saying, i dont really know. :)
But the correct function of one who has taken the bodhisattva vow is to
fullfil it, of one who is studying under Maharishi to fulfil that path.
There is one mountain and many paths.
And Avatars come back too :) Not to mention angel-type beings.
take care :)
maitri,
--janpa tsomo
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:47:05
From: Jeanne Garner <jeannegATnospamicon.net>
To: Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic.net>, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: street lights and K?
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At 04:37 AM 3/24/98 -0600, Ann Morrison Fisher wrote:
>I've heard of a number of women who find, when they separate from their
>husbands, suddenly all the machines in the house go out of whack. It
>happened to me - I was continually calling a repairman. And I didn't have
>overt K. then, nor did the other women. Maybe temporary manifestations?
>Maybe no grounding when the men leave?
Ask any Navy or Coast Guard wife: when the ship's out, the repair companies
rake in the dough! I'm a Navy brat, and a Coast Guard wife (he's now
retired), so I know the phenomenon well. I've always put it down to a
balancing of the yin-yang. Not that women can't be balanced, but it's a
matter of adjusting to first the absence, then when the ship's back in, a
readjustment to working as a pair again. Once they've been gone awhile, we
adjust, and the appliances return to their usual good behavior. Once the
ship comes in again, though, things start going awry again--until we've
adjusted.
Most folks in this type of community (where long deployments are the rule)
know well enough about the requirements for emotional adjustment, but I
think it goes deeper than that.
Jeanne
==-* My stars!
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 97 18:12:02 GMT
From: E Jason <lobsterATnospamclara.net>
To: kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
Message-Id: <970323181202.n0002442.lobsterATnospammail.clara.net>
>Dear Lobster,
> I did not ask to get envolved in this shit.I was stupid enough to get
involved with one of your kundalni
>mandellas.
My Dear Friend,
I would like to apologise for your stupidity in getting involved. I take full
responsibility for your actions. When you die, I will be the cause of it.
My most sincere apologies for treating you so badly.
You know, the one with the snake wrapped all the
>way around the signs of the zodiac. the snake has its tail in its mouth right
there at the top, In the center are two triangles ( pyrmids ) one of which has
an eye in the center. Plus a bunch of symbols all over the place. If your so
damn smart, you figure it out. Being young and stupid,
>and under the influence of LSD. It shit in my birthday cake
My poor baby,
It was indeed my fault you took the LSD and the vision of Uroborus (the
alchemical serpent) came to spoil your party. Please forgive me for your
stupidity.
The Blameless One saith:
>for nine months, but what i got out of it was worth more to me than riches.Id
be more than happy to take it to my grave, I didnt even know what the hell
kundlini was untill nine months later when i looked on the bottom and saw the
words KUNDALINI MENDELLA . I suggest you try this . or are you kundalini's
afraid to meditate on your own mandellas.
The evil Lobster saith:
I never "meditate" on mandalas either on or off LSD - too terrified of what
might happen to my birthday cake . . .
Robert speaketh thus:
>I had to go through your whole trip consious, so thats why i told you i felt 95
% expeience and 5% book learning scattered amongts half a dozen special books, I
dont think half you people understand what your getting into. And even if you
did its to late anyways. So if your all so envolved
>in discussing the finer points of book learning, to be interested in the actual
range of experiences, Im gonna spend my time jumping up and doun on my old lady
instead of trying to get through to somebody. Lobster is a strange name my
friend.but i guess i could live with that if you can if you decide you want to
be one
the faultly Lobster:
Good luck with flattening "the elderly woman" that you "own". I am so pleased my
name is something that is practically acceptable to you. You seem a most mature
and forgiving person, though how you can be after all the things I have done to
you, I really do not know [Lobster wipes a tear of gratitude from his eye]
It may surprise you to know that I do not recommend or encourage the activation
of kundalini. I consider it irrelevant. However some people are going through
the experience (that is my fault incidently) and it might lead to something
useful.
Once again my sincere apologies for all I have put you through.
Please find it in your Heart to forgive me.
Lobster
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