1998/03/23 11:45
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #220
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 220
Today's Topics:
Abhyasa Yoga [ Afperry <AfperryATnospamaol.com> ]
One question [ "Sen Ashanka"<sashankaATnospamaismi.ais.it ]
Re: Gloria Greco leaves the list and [ "Orea de Sa' Hana" <oreaATnospamerols.com> ]
shamanism [ Tom_I_BradleyATnospamEURO.CCMAIL.compuserv ]
Re: rebirth [ "Orea de Sa' Hana" <oreaATnospamerols.com> ]
RE: One question [ Tom_I_BradleyATnospamEURO.CCMAIL.compuserv ]
Re: Gurus and Professors [ E Jason <lobsterATnospamclara.net> ]
Re: Gloria Greco leaves the list and [ E Jason <lobsterATnospamclara.net> ]
Dogon and paradigm shifts [ Tom_I_BradleyATnospamEURO.CCMAIL.compuserv ]
Re: Gloria Greco leaves the list and [ Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.co ]
street lights and K? [ John Living <jlivingATnospamdirect.ca> ]
Re: shamanism [ Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.co ]
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 06:31:34 EST
From: Afperry <AfperryATnospamaol.com>
To: Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com
Cc: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Abhyasa Yoga
Message-ID: <3fa2b3eb.3516481aATnospamaol.com>
Dear Harsha,
You wrote:
> My feeling is that any kind of physical or mental straining is unnecessary
for >Kundalini awakening, spiritual growth and for attaining of Samadhi.
Yes, I would support that from my own experience, both personally and as a
meditation teacher. IMHO kundalini will awaken at the right time and in the
right way for everybody - without any help from us! It is our Divine Mother,
God in His/Her/Its kinetic aspect within each of us, so why should we need to
awaken Her rather than let Her awaken in the fulness of time?
And that awakening will naturally occur when we have surrendered ourselves
sufficiently to the Divine will (and consequently the general flow of our
energies is upwards and inwards rather than down and out). I have also found
that Kumbhaka occurs spontaneously as meditation deepens and that Samadhi too
eventually follows in its own natural flow. No strain or particular effort,
just the persistent practice of meditation with devotion and non-attachment
(usually boosted by the grace of the sadguru, whose appearance on the scene is
the result of our inner aspiration anyway :-)), in other words, Abhyasa Yoga
as Sri Krishna taught in the Bhagavad Gita.
I believe that attempts to awaken kundalini can bring that about prematurely,
i.e. a forced awakening, which can have disastrous consequences especially
sexually and at the mental level. I suspect that mental hospitals around the
world have many patients who are simply the victims of uncontrolled spiritual
power. Any inherent imbalance will be exacerbated in the short term (although
surely healed in the long-term) and I have seen this at first hand. Many sages
have warned about this, notably Vivekananda, but their warnings are usually
ignored.
I must also add here that, all too often, I suspect the motives of those who
are trying to awaken their kundalini. How much of this is simply ego?
Patanjali doesn't talk about kundalini at all, yet it is implicit in all
aspects of his Raja Yoga system. He simply wants us to meditate, pursue our
sadhana, etc. and then everything will follow in its correct time and way. To
me, Kundalini Yoga is something to practise AFTER kundalini awakening, not
before.
I should be most interested in your and other list members' views on this
point as I see it as crucial to how we should advise others i.e. the dangers
of premature arousal. Would not our energies be better spent in straight
meditation, devotion, service, etc. rather than esoteric techniques which may
prove to be damaging mistakes? This is not to deny the value of such
techniques for many people but I am questioning their open and unprepared
application, especially for beginners on the yogic path.
With blessings,
Alan
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 14:32:18 +0100
From: "Sen Ashanka"<sashankaATnospamaismi.ais.it>
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: One question
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There are lots amonst us who practice / teach yoga.
There was one query from an aquaintance recently, i.e.
whenever she did "shavasana" she got headaches.
What could be the problem and the remedy ?
Cheers and love to all
Ashanka
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 09:13:43 -0400
From: "Orea de Sa' Hana" <oreaATnospamerols.com>
To: lodpressATnospamintercomm.com, kl List <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Gloria Greco leaves the list and sends love to all
Message-ID: <35166007.82A7C2B8ATnospamerols.com>
You will be missed, Gloria, but I can think of no more important work than
that which you are undertaking. Blessings to you all, you and the girls will
be in my prayers.
Love, Orea
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 09:32:51 -0500
From: Tom_I_BradleyATnospamEURO.CCMAIL.compuserve.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: shamanism
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Dear Hillary,
Thank you for sending me the information and sorry it took so long to reply
- my access is via work, so it's a question of fitting in time to reply when I'm
not too busy!
My interest in African expressions of kundalini comes from two sources.
First, I lived in Zambia from when I was four till when I was eight. One time
we were traveling the country and stopped at a village. My mother and I
happened upon a witch doctor. It was twilight, and he was playing the drums.
Other witch doctors we'd encountered were one thing, but this doctor worried my
mother because he seemed to be for real. It pleases me that I met a shaman at
such an early age.
My father worked as an aircraft engineer in Lusaka, and near the airstrip
was a field of long grass, near which some reeds had been knotted round some of
the grass. None of the African employees would go near this area - it had been
marked off, something to do with a 'fetish' concept.
Another thing was reading a book from the library, entitled "JuJu" (African
word for witchcraft). It was the account of some British commissioner or police
official who fell foul of the local witch doctor. Strange things happened to
him, like a line of ants coming down his lawn in procession to his front door.
He fell ill with a fever, during which he hallucinated the face of this witch
doctor, and concluded he was under astral attack.
Your account of the Drakenberg rock paintings bears out the idea that there
are points in the body at which spiritual concentration is focused - much like
chakras - and that these connect to another world. The spirit-world appears
repeatedly in shamanic concerns -e.g. aboriginal "dreamtime". Western occult
tradition seems to draw on Egyptian as well as Indian sources, and astral travel
in Egyptian mythology is accomplished by means of the "ka". An occultist
described how he traveled in the ka by means of focussing on the ajna chakra. I
haven't seen much discussion of astral travel in relation to kundalini, though,
so it seems to be primarily an occult or shamanic phenomenon. Hopefully I'll be
corrected. The astral world seems to have been encountered by CIA-trained
remote viewer David Morehouse, and his accounts of the place bear similarity to
those of occult writers. As for what the astral world is, who knows, but if
there's such a thing as a Universal Mind, then perhaps the astral world is its
subconsciousness.
Study of shamans in relation to k is certainly a worthy endeavour. I think
the emphasis on siddhis is much greater. Weather magic is one thing that turns
up repeatedly. I've had some experience of that myself. Also, telepathy - I
read about an Amerindian medicine man who built himself a tiny hut and went into
it for the purpose of communicating telepathically with another medicine man a
great distance away. I think authoress M.Eliade has written books on both Yoga
and on Shamanism, so she might be a useful source of information.
Love,
Tom
Dear Tom,
I don't know if this qualifies as an answer, but a few months ago I watched a
program on 50,000 yr old rock ptgs with Alan Alda (?)and David Lewis-
Williams in the Drakenberg(?) mountains. Lewis-Wms said that in 1870 Wilhelm
Black asked native people what the paintings showed. They answered that they
were ceremonies, religious rituals. (not hunting pictures)
I roughly transcribed it because of its relationship to K.
Lewis-Wms took Alda to look at the paintings: "Take this figure. It has no
legs but it has a hand raised to its nose. The word nose was actually used as
a metaphor for curing power or the power to go into trance into the spirit
world.
On this side of the painting it's a kneeling figure and its arms are in this
backward position which go right out of the back like that and that puzzled us
for a long time. Because you get this very awkward arm position painted all
over S. Africa. And I was in the Kalahari talking to some San (Bushmen)
medicine men and one of them said without my asking him. There is something
else I can tell you, and he stood up and bent forward and put his arms into
that posture and straight away I knew he was going to explain what had puzzled
us for decades. And he gave us a background for that picture. (So what was
it? AA asked) And he said some medicine men adopt this posture when they are
asking God, that is Ahweh to put more supernatural power umph more urgency
into their bodies and then when ahweh puts the power into them it goes into
the backbone, into the spine, and I believe that between the shoulders there
is a sort of hole which they call the "gneh" spot and if you look at this
animal it's got this line coming out of this same spot. It's a line of little
crosses and those represent bees and bees had supernatural power in them."
The program then showed a 40 yr old film showing a bushman ceremony trance
dancing with medicine men stepping with arms slightly behind them being held
by others --"entering a trance crossing into the spirit world...there is a
collapsed dancer in the painting with lines from his head representing travel
to the spirit world. so it is not a hunt."
On another note, In a coffee table book "Gods and myths of the Ancient World
by Mary Barnett, The Egyptian God "MIN" Is described: God of male potency and
of fertility. His early emblem, somewhat resembling a bolt of lightening had
been impossible to interpret [!!]
Sorry this is so long,
Love, Hillary
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 09:59:56 -0400
From: "Orea de Sa' Hana" <oreaATnospamerols.com>
To: kl List <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: rebirth
Message-ID: <35166ADC.8BA238DBATnospamerols.com>
Actually, I see dying as waking up.
Blessings,
Orea
Gaurav Asthana wrote:
>
> Many of us may believe that after death one simply vanishes out of
> existence.It may not be so.Dying maybe like falling in a deep sleep.The
> difference being that on waking up you find yourself the same person while
> after death one may open his eyes to find himself in a different body and
> surroundings.This is his rebirth.It maybe in any form of life other than
> human or human life itself.As when a newborn child opens his eyes to find
> himself in a particular body the same happens when a soul takes rebirth in
> an animal form.An animal baby also finds it moulded in a particular body
> whatever his past life might have been.
> Kundalini is a vehicle not for
> this life only but it may mould ones next lives also depending on it's
> intensity of thrust and one's karma in this life.Kundalini and karma have
> to be taken into account together to get the picture of things to come.
> with love,
> Rahul
>
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 10:28:31 -0500
From: Tom_I_BradleyATnospamEURO.CCMAIL.compuserve.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: RE: One question
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Could be something to do with a change in blood pressure.
Tom
There are lots amonst us who practice / teach yoga.
There was one query from an aquaintance recently, i.e.
whenever she did "shavasana" she got headaches.
What could be the problem and the remedy ?
Cheers and love to all
Ashanka
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 97 22:04:22 GMT
From: E Jason <lobsterATnospamclara.net>
To: kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Gurus and Professors
Message-Id: <970322220422.n0002259.lobsterATnospammail.clara.net>
on 22 Mar 98, Gloria Lee wrote...
>>I am incidently involved in a long term project to train my own Guru.
>It has
>>taken several years to overcome his innate worldliness and inclination
>to
>>atheism. However I persevere . . .
>>
>>Lobster
>>
>>ED, you get me rolling on the floor laughing with these little asides
>of profundity that you casually toss around. Now what does your Guru
>Think of the disciple you have given him to work with???
>Glo Lee
>PS. Your Crustaceousness is quite charming, ya know??
You must be mistaken. An untrained Guru can not be left around disciples. This
one can not even be left around himself too long without wondering what purpose
life has . . .
Guru training is no laughing matter. This person is eminently suitable having no
interest in spirituality, worldly and enjoying life to the full. The main system
of training involves me providing books on vedanta, which he gets his wife to
read on his behalf. Verbal training takes the form of admonishment - I
constantly remind him that my spiritual progress is being kept back by his
ineptitude and refusal to accept his role.
I will keep you informed of his progress.
Lobster
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 97 02:30:51 GMT
From: E Jason <lobsterATnospamclara.net>
To: kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Gloria Greco leaves the list and sends love to all
Message-Id: <970323023051.n0002335.lobsterATnospammail.clara.net>
on 21 Mar 98, lodpressATnospamintercomm.com wrote...
>K list friends,
> I have decided to go off of the list for a while. I am very busy right
>now with my three little foster girls, 5 year old Savannah, 8 yr old
I wish you every success in your efforts. Many people have been supported by
your efforts and amused by your insistence that "the Spirit" is unable to weed
extraneous repeated words in postings. However the Spirit (my own Spirit) wishes
you and your extended family:
PEACE, HEALTH and PROSPERITY
Lobster
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 12:09:24 -0500
From: Tom_I_BradleyATnospamEURO.CCMAIL.compuserve.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Dogon and paradigm shifts
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Hi Peg,
Thank you very much for your reply to my questions last week about African
expressions of kundalini. The book by Dr Sannella you mentioned sounds most
interesting. I saw R. Temple's book on the Dogon in a local bookshop last week,
and there was an article about him this weekend in a local paper. It sounds
fascinating, and I hope that the professors you mentioned will grasp the nettle
and bring their new findings on the Dogon and the nature of reality out into the
public domain. "The notion of our physical reality being a projection of our
consciousness, rather than our consciousness developing secondarily from the
physical universe" sounds
fascinating. As someone who's read the later books of Carlos Castaneda, I don't
have any trouble with that idea. I hope they don't withhold the information for
fear of disturbing some people - letting things continue as they are is a far
more disturbing thing - anyway, please do let us know about further developments
in this regard.
I should also mention that there's a book about stone circles due to come
out this year. It's by British recording artist Julian Cope, and he's been
working on it the last seven or eight years, and will be called "The Modern
Antiquarian". A friend of mine in the music industry tried to arrange some
shows in Wales for Cope, but was told that Cope had stopped recorded because he
was on track of a scientific discovery as important as Darwin's! I contacted
his agent who discouraged the idea, before saying that it was quite possibly
true, based on what she'd read of the book so far. The book's due out later
this year so I await it's arrival with interest. Julian Cope's web-page is:
http://www.headheritage.co.uk <http://www.headheritage.co.uk/headheritage.html>
So there are potentially two major paradigm shifts heading our way before the
millenium, with who knows what else also out there.
Tom
Dr. Lee Sannella, in THE KUNDALINI EXPERIENCE, has a chapter entitled "Cross
Cultural Aspects of the Kundalini Experience." He cites the work of
anthropologist Richard Katz and his work with the !Kung tribe of the Kalahari
who raise kundalini energy as part of their ritual ceremonies. They call the
energy !kia. Over half of the tribe members can raise the energy, thereby
entering an altered state in which healing is performed. The ability runs in
families.
At the onset of my own kundalini process last year, synchronicity led me to a
book called COSMIC TRIGGER by Robert Anton Wilson, a friend of Timothy Leary
and Dr. John Lilly, who were doing consciousness research in the 70's. Wilson
writes about an African tribe, the Dogon, whose lore speaks of Nommo, a
visitor from the Sirius star system. The Dogon have known of the existence of
a white dwarf companion star of the Sirius at least 700 years before it was in
fact verified by astronomers in 1970. Somehow, this tribe which had hardly
evolved past the stone age, also knew the period of Sirius, which is 50 years,
and that Sirius is one of the heaviest stars in the universe. Robert K.G.
Temple, fellow of the Royal Astronomical Society, also wrote of this in his
book THE SIRIUS MYSTERY. There is another book called THE SIRIUS CONNECTION,
by Murry Hope, which explores the Babylonian and Egyptian connection to the
planet Sirius. The question is whether there was in fact a visitation in
about 4,500 BC which would explain how these cultures knew of this dwarf star
which cannot be seen by the naked eye and which could only be photographed
with equipment that was just recently developed. Wilson further asks the
question whether there is a link from Earth to a consciousness from Sirius
which is causing the rash of reports of aliens, angels, and other elusive
presences. As kundalini refines our energy bodies, is our consciousness able
to resonate with a Sirian frequency that has been here before, all along, or
in the future?
It is also a fun and interesting coincidence to me that the discoverer of the
fractal equation, Benoit Mandelbrot, said in the documentary "Colours of
Infinity" that if you took a Mandelbrot set the size of a speck and extended
the full set, it would reach from Earth to the star Sirius. The Mandelbrot
Set is nicknamed "The Fingerprint of God."
This week, I had one of the most fascinating conversations of my life. A
friend of mine in San Francisco was talking to a friend of hers in Los
Angeles. Somehow, the two of them decided it was essential that I talk to a
man who was a friend of the woman in Los Angeles. My friend called me to give
me the name of the man and his phone number. Because I consider my friend to
be intelligent and sensible, I called the man. We quickly discovered the
reason we were brought together. He has been going through experiences
parallel to mine and many of you on this list. We have been exposed to the
same information and been having the same consciousness shifts. Here's how it
ties into Africa. He asked if the word "Dogon" meant anything to me. I told
him what I knew of the tribe based on my reading, and I told him how
coincidence had led to my learning the information. He then proceeded to tell
me that he will very shortly be serving as a "front man" for some Southern
California university professors who have been in Africa studying the Dogon
tribe. They have also studied several Native American cultures. Because the
information is controversial, the professors are disinclined to jeopardize
their careers and families, so this man volunteered to risk appearing the fool
and present the information when it is ready. He says it won't be long (like
this year). He said the information will not only corroborate the Sirius
connection, but it will also substantiate the notion of our physical reality
being a projection of our consciousness, rather than our consciousness
developing secondarily from the physical universe. I plan on keeping in touch
with this man and will let you know when and if the information is ready to
become public.
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 10:07:06 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: E Jason <lobsterATnospamclara.net>
CC: kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Gloria Greco leaves the list and sends love to all
Message-ID: <35162638.40C7ATnospamintercomm.com>
E Jason wrote:
>
> on 21 Mar 98, lodpressATnospamintercomm.com wrote...
>
> >K list friends,
> > I have decided to go off of the list for a while. I am very busy right
> >now with my three little foster girls, 5 year old Savannah, 8 yr old
>
> I wish you every success in your efforts. Many people have been supported by
> your efforts and amused by your insistence that "the Spirit" is unable to weed
> extraneous repeated words in postings. However the Spirit (my own Spirit) wishes
> you and your extended family:
> PEACE, HEALTH and PROSPERITY
> Lobster
GG
Thanks for you kind thoughts, I still didn't get off. Don't you just
have to write unsubscribe in the subject line?
--
Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.
Gloria Joy Greco
e-mail me at : lodpressATnospamintercomm.com and visit our homepages at:
http://users.intercomm.com/larryn/
&
http://www.freeyellow.com/members/zg888/
Hope you enjoy them!
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 10:09:48 -0700
From: John Living <jlivingATnospamdirect.ca>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: street lights and K?
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Hi
Seeing the power of K-listers to turn electrics on/off, I wonder
- Can this be turned into a useful skill ?
For example, it could save limbs and lives if used to detonate mines, or to
make mine detonating systems inactive (& safe), or even to change the nature
of the matter in the explosives / detonators.
Any volunteers ?
Any other positive uses ?
John
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2731 West 11th.Avenue, the more he saw, the less he spoke;
Vancouver, B.C., the less he spoke, the more he heard;
Canada V6K 2L8 he was definitely not a political bird !
Vox & Fax (604) 737-7456
"The Truth is out there !" - and YOU can find it by Dowsing !
Dowsers * Questers / Canada: "http://users.uniserve.com/~questers/"
Learn to use a Pendulum: "http://mypage.direct.ca/j/jliving/penlearn.htm"
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 10:21:35 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: Tom_I_BradleyATnospamEURO.CCMAIL.compuserve.com
CC: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: shamanism
Message-ID: <3516299D.19A9ATnospamintercomm.com>
Tom_I_BradleyATnospamEURO.CCMAIL.compuserve.com wrote:
>
>
> Another thing was reading a book from the library, entitled "JuJu" (African
> word for witchcraft). It was the account of some British commissioner or police
> official who fell foul of the local witch doctor. Strange things happened to
> him, like a line of ants coming down his lawn in procession to his front door.
> He fell ill with a fever, during which he hallucinated the face of this witch
> doctor, and concluded he was under astral attack.
Gloria:
When I did research for my first book I ended up getting into some of
this, it is a very interesting aspect of their belief system.
> An occultist
> described how he traveled in the ka by means of focussing on the ajna chakra. I
> haven't seen much discussion of astral travel in relation to kundalini, though,
> so it seems to be primarily an occult or shamanic phenomenon.
GG
It all comes together as awareness allows the individual soul/spirit to
consciously remember out of body experiences. The astral is the lower
planes connected to the lower centers. As you become heart centered the
experiences change into higher dimensions but it is all the same.
Tom:
Hopefully I'll be
> corrected. The astral world seems to have been encountered by CIA-trained
> remote viewer David Morehouse, and his accounts of the place bear similarity to
> those of occult writers.
GG
As you begin to remember your dream experiences and also can come out of
body in consciousness then all of this is answered. You leave your body
every night in sleep you just don't remember it, and if you do remember
parts of it, it feels like your paralized at first.
>
> Also, telepathy - I
> read about an Amerindian medicine man who built himself a tiny hut and went into
> it for the purpose of communicating telepathically with another medicine man a
> great distance away. I think authoress M.Eliade has written books on both Yoga
> and on Shamanism, so she might be a useful source of information.
GG
This also is not that difficult to do, the people on the heart list are
working out of each others dreams. The same stuff telepathic connections
and also focusing on Divine Will connecting us up. When it started to
happen it was pretty shocking to some but now it is totally accepted as
the inner connections expanding and awareness coming down.
>
> Love,
> Tom
> Dear Tom,
>
> I don't know if this qualifies as an answer, but a few months ago I watched a
> program on 50,000 yr old rock ptgs with Alan Alda (?)and David Lewis-
> Williams in the Drakenberg(?) mountains. Lewis-Wms said that in 1870 Wilhelm
> Black asked native people what the paintings showed. They answered that they
> were ceremonies, religious rituals. (not hunting pictures)
>
> I roughly transcribed it because of its relationship to K.
>
> Lewis-Wms took Alda to look at the paintings: "Take this figure. It has no
> legs but it has a hand raised to its nose. The word nose was actually used as
> a metaphor for curing power or the power to go into trance into the spirit
> world.
>
> On this side of the painting it's a kneeling figure and its arms are in this
> backward position which go right out of the back like that and that puzzled us
> for a long time. Because you get this very awkward arm position painted all
> over S. Africa. And I was in the Kalahari talking to some San (Bushmen)
> medicine men and one of them said without my asking him. There is something
> else I can tell you, and he stood up and bent forward and put his arms into
> that posture and straight away I knew he was going to explain what had puzzled
> us for decades. And he gave us a background for that picture. (So what was
> it? AA asked) And he said some medicine men adopt this posture when they are
> asking God, that is Ahweh to put more supernatural power umph more urgency
> into their bodies and then when ahweh puts the power into them it goes into
> the backbone, into the spine, and I believe that between the shoulders there
> is a sort of hole which they call the "gneh" spot and if you look at this
> animal it's got this line coming out of this same spot. It's a line of little
> crosses and those represent bees and bees had supernatural power in them."
>
> The program then showed a 40 yr old film showing a bushman ceremony trance
> dancing with medicine men stepping with arms slightly behind them being held
> by others --"entering a trance crossing into the spirit world...there is a
> collapsed dancer in the painting with lines from his head representing travel
> to the spirit world. so it is not a hunt."
>
> On another note, In a coffee table book "Gods and myths of the Ancient World
> by Mary Barnett, The Egyptian God "MIN" Is described: God of male potency and
> of fertility. His early emblem, somewhat resembling a bolt of lightening had
> been impossible to interpret [!!]
>
> Sorry this is so long,
>
> Love, Hillary
--
Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.
Gloria Joy Greco
e-mail me at : lodpressATnospamintercomm.com and visit our homepages at:
http://users.intercomm.com/larryn/
&
http://www.freeyellow.com/members/zg888/
Hope you enjoy them!
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