1998/03/23 04:32
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #219
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 219
Today's Topics:
Re: street lights and K? [ Richard Wentk <richardATnospamskydancer.co ]
Re: street lights and K? [ "Solar Lion" <gtaATnospamlanset.com> ]
Re: PRANAYAMA [ Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com> ]
Re: Gurus and Professors [ "Jan Barendrecht" <janbarenATnospamcorreo. ]
Re: Personal Genius [ "Jan Barendrecht" <janbarenATnospamcorreo. ]
[Fwd: Re: Sun-day : part two] [ valeriec <madammumATnospamptialaska.net> ]
Re: Gloria Greco leaves the list and [ Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.co ]
Re: PRANAYAMA [ Stuart <stuartfATnospamdimensional.com> ]
Re: sudarshan chakra [ anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities. ]
some damn process [ valeriec <madammumATnospamptialaska.net> ]
Re: street lights and K? [ Danijel Turina <sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.te ]
Re: street lights and K? [ Danijel Turina <sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.te ]
Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource [ pam roberson <pamie59ATnospamyahoo.com> ]
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 03:07:20 +0000
From: Richard Wentk <richardATnospamskydancer.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: street lights and K?
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At 16:32 22/03/98 -0500, Antoine wrote:
>
>
>Bob Trevithick wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 22 Mar 1998 12:17:46 +0100, Danijel Turina
>> <sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.tel.hr> wrote:
>>
>> >So before you go jumping to conclusions about K outbursts, and you begin
>> >panicking about something being seriously wrong with you (or telling
people
>> >"look what I've done! like, wow!":))), look for a bit more grounded
>> >explanation, please. :)))
>>
>> Danijel,
>>
>> Ah, Occam's Razor comes to the rescue again. :-) You explanation of
>> street lights, and their simple light detection systems, makes good
>> sense.
>
>Both your remark, Danijel and Bob, make perfect sense to me.
>
>They exist extremes in both ways. But it may not be the light of the car
or the
>shadow of the person walking, who makes the light go off. It may also be a
>synchronicity that as nothing to do with us. Why search for an
explanation, why
>not just acknowledge the fact and let a clear mind explore the energies. By
>looking for an explanation in the paranormal or in the all scientific
structure,
>you may close your eyes to what simply IS.
Hmmm - dunnno. By looking for explanations instead of accepting what simply
IS you can do fun stuff like - oh, I dunno - stay warm, create light after
dark, and set up email lists for people with kundalini-related experiences.
This staying with all that IS can sometimes be over-rated, methinks.
Oh yes, of course true masters can do all these things and more without
needing to bother with all that annoying practical thinky engineering
stuff. But what about the rest of us, eh? :)
And as for Danijel's explanation - nice try, but not so. I went through a
phase of very definite and pronounced street light synchronicities, where
lights would go out when I walked under them - including one very
interesting evening when it happened to two lights in a row. UK street
lights then worked on timers. No light sensing involved... I could usually
tell when I was 'in the mood' for it too.
I agree though about ungrounded people being able to bounce energy around
in annoying ways. Betcha didn't know that Wolfgang Pauli, the famous
physicist, was banned from certain research labs because weird stuff would
happen around him, and annoy more practically minded folks?
This k - wouldn't it be fun if we *really* understood it?
R.
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 19:48:30 -0800
From: "Solar Lion" <gtaATnospamlanset.com>
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Subject: Re: street lights and K?
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and then again it is more that street lights.
elevators - that you can not stand near
the sensors or they all light up.
not being able to wear watches -
cause they always malfunction.
extremely high failure rate of any electronics
devices you may try to use.
computer failures at agencies you are mad at.
the highway patrolman who just gave you a ticket
can not seem to get his car started.
i'm sure there are plenty of other happenings along these lines from the
people here.
Solar Lion (Bob)
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Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 22:52:10 EST
From: Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com>
To: keutzerATnospameecs.berkeley.edu, 930359ATnospamaloe.ulima.edu.pe,
anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: PRANAYAMA
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In a message dated 98-03-22 22:01:10 EST, keutzerATnospameecs.berkeley.edu writes:
<< KK: Now we have a few issues going. First of all I would be very interested
to learn as to where yogins routinely extended their breath retention
capacity beyond 3 minutes - if that is what you meant. Such a feat is rare
in my experience. >>
Harsha: I was doing it routinely in my early 20s for about 7 months out of the
year. After Kevala Nirvikalpa Samadhi (age 23-24) I stopped as I saw no
further point to it at that time. Due to certain reasons, I wished to engage
in certain advanced Pranayama practices again for 9 months in my late 30s and
was routinely retaining the breath for 3 or more minutes (at the age of 39 -
two and a half years ago). Even my teacher was surprised as it becomes
difficult with advancing age especially if one is living an ordinary and
normal life as I am. I speak plainly and directly from my own experiences and
not from book knowledge or heresay. People should use common sense and follow
their own intuition about what is best for them. My feeling is that any kind
of physical or mental straining is unnecessary for Kundalini awakening,
spiritual growth and for attaining of Samadhi. Kevala Kumbaka occurs naturally
in deep meditation and leads to Samadhi ....Harsha
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 00:02:58 -0000
From: "Jan Barendrecht" <janbarenATnospamcorreo.infase.es>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: Gurus and Professors
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>From Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in>
Date: Sunday, March 22, 1998 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: Gurus and Professors
Hi Anurag,
It is better to ask an expert - for instanstance Michael Martin at NG
alt.yoga
or put the question in NG alt.meditation.shabda. They are the experts - I am
not.
But put very simple, it is the yoga of sound. There are may internal sounds,
the most holy one is OM. Even without engaging in Shabda Yoga, in the course
of time every practitioner will hear the divine sound OM.
Jan
>Hi,
> What is SHABDA YOGA?
>
>Love,
>anurag
>
>
>
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 04:06:17 -0000
From: "Jan Barendrecht" <janbarenATnospamcorreo.infase.es>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: Personal Genius
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>From Gloria Lee <samyanaATnospamhotmail.com>
Date: Sunday, March 22, 1998 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: Personal Genius
Dear Gloria,
Because the subject is so completely "off-beat" as compared to all-day-life
subjects, I had to leave out particulars. As you were not the only one who
experienced problems, I will fill in some of the blanks. In I.15 Patanjali
states: "Detachment is the deliberate renunciation of desire for objects
seen or heard".
Having far greater than average talents brings the risk of attachment. The
ultimate price for attachment is unhappiness, because the genius is occupied
only with the talent. All human relations will suffer from his "being
possessed" and the genius of course thinks he is right, so the situation
will only get worse. Picasso didn´t have his love-affairs because he was so
happy... Rather, he was looking for happiness that he felt was missing. A
property that a genius can have in common with a realized one, is poverty. I
think Tesla was a genius (inventor of AC current generation and motors); he
hardly cared for money, lived like a monk and died forgotten and poor. But
as long as one doesn´t forget God, uses the talent to praise God or to
express the love for God, what could be wrong with it? The keyword to be
used in relation with K. and talents is detachment. The commentator/author
Shree Purohit Swami comments:[...] "I met many who practiced Hatha-yoga as a
stepping stone to Raja-yoga, but the few who were mere Hatha-yogis had great
powers, strong healthy bodies and immense vanity. So long as they were in
the Hatha-yoga Samadhi, their minds were at rest, but as soon as they came
out, their minds revolted. They were generally amenable to praise; and some
more worldly than average worldly men. That was the chief reason why I lost
faith in Hatha-yoga. The Hatha-yogi takes great care of his body, keeps it
clean inside and outside, devotes so much time to it that he gets fond of
it. The attachment grows with the years, grows still more when the powers
come, when he becomes famous and people praise him, grows beyond all bounds.
Body is the foundation of his spiritual life and he finds himself buried in
it. No wonder if he finds it difficult to conquer his sentiment, go beyond
discrimination, forget his joy, lose his personality. The Raja-yogi tries to
ignore his personality, the Hatha-yogi tries to develop it. " If you think
this rings a bell, considering the present popularity of Hatha-yoga.... the
above
commentary was written in 1937 (!) and relates to the situation in India at
that time... If this can happen to yogis who could have known better, how
much greater will the danger (for attachment) be for those who aren´t yogis?
Yet, in III 1...55 several siddhis are discussed. As by that time the
student will be thoroughly familiar with the value of detachment, no harm
can be done by experimenting. Some siddhis are even acquired without any
conscious effort.
Having a member of the family with active K. probably isn´t always easy for
the other members. Mood-swings, dark nights, bad vibrations and ecstatic
moments, all difficult to follow for the ‘ordinary´ person. Strictly
speaking, all contributors (including me) to this off-beat subject are
indirectly responsible for some inconvenience, inflicted on innocent ones:
the direct relatives who had to cope with the ‘bad vibes´ this subject
caused to some members of the list. On the bright side, as long as there are
‘bad vibes´, there can be real hope for progress on the path. Take care of
your dear ones.
Jan
>>
>>
>>From Gloria Lee <samyanaATnospamhotmail.com>
>>Date: Saturday, March 21, 1998 5:19 PM
>>Subject: Re: Personal Genius
>>
>>Dear Gloria,
>>
>>I used the expression: "engaging to the extreme in music, painting or
>>science etc. with the aid of K. is considered to be abuse of K. or
>siddhi=
>>"
>>so I am rather surprised how you jump to "proper use", since my post
>was
>>concerned only with the extreme. Nowhere did I mention "proper use" or
>>refer to it indirectly. The expression" engaging to the extreme" was
>>evaluated in order to leave no doubt as to what was meant by it. IMO I
>di=
>>d
>>the right thing, because for "proper use" their will be 6 billion
>opinion=
>>s
>>or so and I didn=92t want to indulge in a debate on even one of them.
>As =
>>the
>>post was about "genius", of course it leaves out many - is that a
>reason =
>>not
>>to discuss it? In order not to be taken very seriously, I used the word
>>"speculative" once and the word "speculation" twice and yet you take
>thin=
>>gs
>>very seriously, as if you are personally offended.
>>So I would like to return the question: Where did you take the (giant)
>le=
>>ap
>>from extreme to proper use and then take it so seriously despite the
>>repeated "disclaimer" of speculation?
>>
>>Jan
>>
>Dear Jan,
>You are quite right. Now that I re-read and see your rational cautions
>were present even from the original post, I realize how emotional my
>reaction was..to the extreme, even!!! Sorry, but I do this a lot. I am
>just a very emptional person. It was in fact more of a kind of reaction
>to this genius discussion which took place some time back on the list.
>My views were meant somewhat kindly to defend humanity in general from
>elitist views, but I can now quite clearly see you meant no harm.
>Thank you for your very calm response to my babblings... the rigors of
>intellectual discussions are just too much for me on some days. I do
>appreciate your thoughts and I think I see your position more clearly
>now. Thank you for your many contributions to our list..I enjoy your
>mind, sorry I appear to have lost mine.
>Glo Lee
>
>PS. Picasso may have been a genius, but he was rather mean to his many
>wives, lovers, and children.
>
>______________________
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>
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 19:59:13 -0800
From: valeriec <madammumATnospamptialaska.net>
To: CYBERMINDATnospamLISTSERV.AOL.COM
CC: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: [Fwd: Re: Sun-day : part two]
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Dear Lists,
By way of explanations...
My mommy didn't raise no fool to be bulldozed over like some gutter
rat...
It ain't very pretty bein' "easy"...
Aaaarg...frig the keelhaul to the brimstone...
what should I do??? should I come, or should I go?
vc
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Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 19:36:39 -0800
From: valeriec <madammumATnospamptialaska.net>
Reply-To: madammumATnospamptialaska.net
Organization: *church of everywhere*
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To: "Richard J. Phillips" <richATnospamchums.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Sun-day : part two
References: <2E$B6CAsjRF1EwzSATnospamchums.demon.co.uk>
Richard J. Phillips wrote:
>
> This'll make you laugh.
>
> I had a dream on Saturday about you (no, not quite a nightmare ;) - but
> it was a restless night, my Dad had the heating on and the bed was
> uncomfortable) ..
> You came to visit me unannounced and I was away from home. So my friend,
> Nick, had to entertain you (lucky you). You had your hair cut short and
> dyed black and very thick eye-makup - like Demi Moore on a bad makup
> day.... spooky! That's all I remember!!!
>
> This'll make you laff too... but it's not a dream, it's real life... My
> tubby friend from Washington state just got engaged to be married in
> June. So it goes... not too broken hearted after all.
v: you are so sweet!
i been workin 2 jobs now, remodelling the bordello for graphics in a
bit, & also helpin my friend clean, later in the day.
my "lot space rent" check was bounced in Anchorage, even though I HAD
all the $ & a few bucks over even, by putting in my last 40 bucks for
food & gas for the month, but some stray $12.61 check went thru - GOD
knows from where -
& I gotta "legal-like letter" taped to my door.
So - technically speaking - I had maybe 3-5 bucks less than the
410.00 bucks for the lot rent check, but they were able to bounce it on
the computer, & charge me $18.50 besides for the priviledge.
And the "legal letter on NSF checks now includes another 30 bucks
'bounced check charge' & another 50 bucks "late fee".
Fuck these fuckin fuckers! I finally gave them a cashier's check for
200 bucks because I hate it here anyway & want to move away (in the best
way), after that schlock!
I been so busy workin & drivin back & forth with work & Ms. Mia, that
I haven't even been able to come home for daze on end!!!
These people have a dying "used car" lot, & now have pissed me off
beyond my capacity to cope with them! I "honored "her" (dragon lady)
with a very nice 5 or 6 page e-mail explaining how I am entirely
right-brained, & why should I be "embarrassed", as she inferred, when
the bourgeosie (sp.? screw it!) people don't even let me function
anyway, & I had 102 stitches on the right side of my brain in a
hitchhiking incident in my teens, (an "act of God"), & was just grateful
to be alive, much less balance my books mathematically, when I have a
certified "math learning disability" on paper anyway.
These people with big fancy houses, & too much food on the table are
pissin me off lately. I think I have "terrorist blood" from the Basques
& the Apaches, that I am spending TOO MUCH ENERGY holding back my furor
at their "big-assed ways" about these $ issues. I ain't gonna trick
them, or blow them up about it, but I AM way too busy compensating for
their pin-headed, cold-hearted & greedy attitudes.
There. That's it "in a nutshell". Whee-ha! I'm too busy havin "way
too much fun"! instead of functioning in my capacity as an artist.
All my neighbor's wives are very small minded gals who are so
frustrated with the mill closure, & they all HATE what I represent, the
fact I have no man, and am cuter than them (even 20 years older than
their fat asses), & I damn well already paid my dues, have room for no
more grief, & gotta move away from this golly-durned trailer park ASAP!
Some kids with little kids are busy moving in next door, & staring
askance at me while I come & go. I don't think I'll have the time to put
in the garden this year, & I HATE "legal letters" like that cold stone
b*tch lady taped to my door for a simple mistake.
Guess I better get going! Mia has kindergarden in the morn. It's been
'spring break' all week long (LA-de-DAH!)
cordially yours,
your friend,
vc
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Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 21:12:24 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: Mary Ezzell <maryATnospamsonic.net>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Gloria Greco leaves the list and sends love to all
Message-ID: <351570A5.BCCATnospamintercomm.com>
Mary Ezzell wrote:
>
> Dear Gloria Greco,
>
> Thank you so much for the time and energy you gave to the k list. YOu are a
> wonderful person and I wish you very well. Hope your schedule permits
> return soon.
>
> Please keep in touch.
Gg
I will be back I'm sure. Just need some time to get my body used to the
changes in our home and the increased activity. I love the kids and they
know it, I am just very, very busy helping them to adjust. And I find my
body has to adapt to the change.
>
> Love and light,
> Mary Ezzell
--
Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.
Gloria Joy Greco
e-mail me at : lodpressATnospamintercomm.com and visit our homepages at:
http://users.intercomm.com/larryn/
&
http://www.freeyellow.com/members/zg888/
Hope you enjoy them!
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 23:16:55 -0700
From: Stuart <stuartfATnospamdimensional.com>
To: Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com>
CC: keutzerATnospameecs.berkeley.edu, 930359ATnospamaloe.ulima.edu.pe,
anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: PRANAYAMA
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Harsha1MTM wrote:
> Harsha: The cautions are real and are meant for those who wish to practice
> breath retention. It is not uncommon for some advanced students to gradually
> develop the capacity to retain the breath after having inhaled (retention can
> be increased to 3 minutes or much longer than that). This has a profound
> effect on the brain and the nervous system. Bandha Traya and other such
> practices are not meant for most people and indeed may be potentially harmful
> if not done carefully without following certain restrictions.
Okay so what are the dangers? I hear about the warning but no "what could
happen". When people say don't cross the street without looking , it's known that
a car may come along and hit you. Stick your hand in fire, etc. You get my
point. The warnings are strouded in mystery. Swimmers hold their breath without
hatha yoga.
After 2 months of practice , and no previous or current hatha I've included the
particular pranayams you mention above. Along with Nadi Suddhi, Surya Bendhena, I
do Bandha Traya, and other full chalice retention. So far so good. Am I headed
down a destructful course?
Peace
Stuart
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 22:25:09 -0800
From: anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities.com>
To: Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com>
CC: maggie838ATnospamyahoo.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: sudarshan chakra
Message-ID: <35160033.60E91DAFATnospamgeocities.com>
Harsha1MTM wrote:
> In a message dated 98-03-22 13:54:11 EST, maggie838ATnospamyahoo.com writes:
>
> << Someone told me it was a Sudarshan Chakra, but I am not
> familiar with this. >>
>
> Harsha: Sudarshan Chakra refers to a weapon in the epic Mahabharta. It used to
> appear around the fingers of Krishna when he was about to slay someone. Am I
> right Anandajyoti?
Anandajyoti>
Yes, Harsha is right in giving the reference of the epic Mahabharata.
In the personification of the sustaining aspect of the Transcendent, which in the
Hindu pantheon is popularly known as Vishnu who is portrayed as having the Sankha,
Chakra, Gada and the Padma are also esoterically may be said to be symbolic of:
Sankha -----------> The Sabda Brahman or the manifestation as sound..
Chakra------------> The Sudarshan ( one of great luster and beauty), Chakra
(symbolic of the vortex of TIME or the cyclic
order of the
Universe in the Field of Time)
Gada-------------->The instrument of destructive force , ( literally a Mace-
weapon)
Padma------------->The lotus flower although it takes root in the mud, has also
in its
nature to get past that, and bloom forth over the
waters (desires
etc.) and look towards the Sun ( the Source of our
Solar system),
communion.
Anandajyoti
http:www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/6782
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 21:48:54 -0800
From: valeriec <madammumATnospamptialaska.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
CC: CYBERMINDATnospamLISTSERV.AOL.COM
Subject: some damn process
Message-ID: <3515F7B1.59EAATnospamptialaska.net>
sorry dingy lists!
I have a pain. In my shoulders.
I am too weird; I admit it.
My life was simple without YOU, babe...
vc
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Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 11:09:07 +0100
From: Danijel Turina <sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.tel.hr>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: street lights and K?
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Hi Bob! :)
At 19:48 1998.03.22 -0800, you wrote:
>and then again it is more that street lights.
>
>elevators - that you can not stand near
>the sensors or they all light up.
>
>not being able to wear watches -
>cause they always malfunction.
>
>extremely high failure rate of any electronics
>devices you may try to use.
>
>computer failures at agencies you are mad at.
>
>the highway patrolman who just gave you a ticket
>can not seem to get his car started.
>
>i'm sure there are plenty of other happenings along these lines from the
>people here.
So people, if this happens to you, go visit Mystress's grounding page. :)))
LOL :)))
Take care! :)
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Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 11:08:50 +0100
From: Danijel Turina <sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.tel.hr>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: street lights and K?
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Hi Richard! :)
>And as for Danijel's explanation - nice try, but not so. I went through a
>phase of very definite and pronounced street light synchronicities, where
>lights would go out when I walked under them - including one very
>interesting evening when it happened to two lights in a row. UK street
>lights then worked on timers. No light sensing involved... I could usually
>tell when I was 'in the mood' for it too.
Well... I had similar experiences, lights going out when I pass around
them... and then I moved on and observed. It turned out to be an unstable
mercury light bulb. :) The light just goes on and off with no clear
rules... Why did I notice it as being connected to me? Well, if I pass by a
dozen or more streetlights, I wouldn't much notice those that are also
defective, but don't turn on or off when I pass by. But the damn thing
would also do that if I were home in bed. :) Synchronicity maybe. Like, why
did it happen at that exact moment, to me, and why did I notice? :) And I
don't say it isn't possible to influence streetlights with pranic
outbursts, after all they are pretty unstable equipment, very easy to
trigger both ways. But if one has pranic outbursts, it should not be
considered a psychic power or something like that, but a sign that your
energy is everywhere except where it should be, and that is in your system.
I don't think anyone here would be showing off with an epileptic seizure,
like "folks, look what I can do!". These things aren't that different in my
book, being ungrounded means you need to take care of it before more shit
happens.
>I agree though about ungrounded people being able to bounce energy around
>in annoying ways. Betcha didn't know that Wolfgang Pauli, the famous
>physicist, was banned from certain research labs because weird stuff would
>happen around him, and annoy more practically minded folks?
I know a guy who simply flamed a VCR when he was pissed. The poor thing
exploded! :) And he isn't even K-awakened, just seriously ungrounded, not
very much in contact with the purpose of his life.
>This k - wouldn't it be fun if we *really* understood it?
I don't know, maybe, but would you really want scientists to give you
labels even there? ;)))
Take care! :)
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Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 02:34:23 -0800 (PST)
From: pam roberson <pamie59ATnospamyahoo.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Cc: mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com
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---Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com> wrote:
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>> K. effects big changes in every part of your being.. and change is
stressful to humans, even change for the better.. so Love causes
stress.. and it causes stress reactions, like lowered immunity, and
stress on organs.>>>
This is very interesting. I'm wondering where auto-immune related
diseases (like hypothyroidism where the immune system attacks and
eventually kills the thyroid)and problems w/the skeletal system fit
in. Also, what chakras would represent these? I'd appreciate hearing
your thoughts. I've been wondering about this subject for some time now.
Thanks
Pam
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